"Just..." You say. "The British are coming!" You say, figuring that it's best to just change the subject and hope he forgets about the idea."What?" He asks quizzically. "...What do you know about British tanks? Because we're gonna have to fight through about five of them tomorrow." You finally say, hopefully explaining the situation."Oh. Was about to yell you we're on the wrong set of islands for that." He laughs. "Well, bring your girlfriend over." Goddammit. That's actually the last thing you need him thinking at this point. "I'll see what I can do to help you kids out.">Head home.>Anything else?
>Anything else?>>Warn the the girls about grandfather being himself.
>>24950478>Consider the possibilities of you tank CO's as girlfriends>At least consider the look on their faces when you introduce them as such.>Disregard such feelings, and tell our boner to shut up.
>>24950521>>Warn the the girls about grandfather being himself.
>>24950478Where do you find your pershing pics?
>>24950478>Head homeWell, today's been awfully tiresome. Time to get home and prep for our not-date with Mihoj over some chili while trying to ignoring any sort of shenanigans our grandfather may try.
>>24950521Definitely do this. Don't want them going in unprepared.
>>24950478>Warn everybody about your gramps. EVERYBODY.
>>24950478>Head home.Lets get plannin'.Also, fuck what the haters are saying. I think you're a cool dude OP.
>>24950478>girlfriendIf we're meeting him with both Miho and Yukari which one is he going to decide is our girlfriend?
>>24950478>OtherCall up Miho, tell her to meet up with us at school first, so that we can warn them about grandpa before taking them home.
>>24950562>Don't warn Anzu>Hilarity ensuesMay as well set her up for butt-monkey, best target is best.
>>24950478> Head home.
>>24950521>>24950478This is required.
>>24950568haha turn up and be like, "Hey Gramps, I brought my girlfriendS"then watch him be proud
>>24950631>>24950521What could possibly go wrong? It's not like he's gonna hit on Yukari or our not-girlfriend Miho. If anything, they'll see him as that "Lecherous Old Guy" stereotype.
>>24950663>What could possibly go wrong?Alot just by sheer virtue of you asking that question.If they're prepared they'd be able to ignore his remarks
>>24950637>>24950663Does he even speak Japanese? Cause if he doesn't that would make everything much easier.
>>24950663this is why we must proclaim both to be our girlfriends, he would never try anything with them then
>>24950676Nothing can prepare them for this.These are 100% pure Japanese Schoolgirl we're dealing with.There's no way we're getting out of this with everyone beet-red with steam boiling out of our ears. In Gramps' case this might have more to do with alcohol than embarrassment, but still...
>>24950689Not sure if BlackJack would allow it (the whole having more than one girlfriend thing)
>>24950689>>24950722In a magical world of Japanese animes, there are no girlfriends. Only concubines.
>>24950689>he would never try anything with them thenYou underestimate the old man.
>>24950722He'll either think we're lying or incredibly suave if we introduce both Yukari and Miho as our girlfriends.Though I still think Kay would be best for making our girlfriend
>>24950770>implying Yukari isn't best option
>>24950805why so narrow minded? WE SHALL HAVE ALL THE GIRLFRIENDS
LET"S JUST INTRODUCE THEM AS OUR STAFF OFFICERSAND ANY INSINUATIONS OF GIRLFRIENDDOM GET EYEROLLS.
>>24950606I like it.Only problem is that Anzu might somehow get the mistaken impression we actually like her that way, considering how idiotic she is.Anyhow. All for warning the girls beforehand, and make sure to blush nicely or stammer whenever Gramps insinuates something about one of the girls we actually like.Laugh it off when Anzu is mentioned by Gramps, if at all.
>>24950071That's a KV-1 brofessor, you done goofed!>>24950478Head home, nothing else to do so far as I can see.
>>24950770you seem to failing to consider how the girls would feel about such a thing. Then again "failing social skills" is a /tg/ trait.>>24950827I thought you were dead Matoko!
>>24950856>>24950606Wasn't tit Just Miho and Ykari coming?
>>24950805Let's take Yukari with us when we inevitably leave to work with Kay.Yes, this is a joke.Not really. Do want!
>>24950878I'm guessing they will try to bring as many of the commanders as possible, since we have little to no lead time for this match.I'm almost certain Anzu will assume she is invited, regardless of our feelings on the matter.
>>24950521Yeah, this is a pretty good idea.
Warn the girls about gramps.
>>24950867Don't act like the KV-1 isn't made of plot armor.
>>24951130Well 75mm of armour is PRETTY good by 1941 standards
An hour later, you make it a point to be the first to the door when the doorbell rings. Grandpa could be an acquired taste and you needed to make sure the girls were eased into his presense gently. You swing open the door- Both have their arms full of books, and papers."Thank you!" Miho says. "I'm sorry we're late." She says with a small bow."We stopped by my house- I've got a few books on British tanks and I figured they might be helpful." Yukari says with a big grin. "This is so exciting! Our first real battle!""Yeah... I just wish it wasn't on such short notice." You say, leading them into the living room. "You can leave the books on the table there- We haven't unpacked all our stuff yet, so it's still a bit of a mess." "So your grandpa was a tanker?" Yukari asks enthusiastically. "Was he in Europe? Africa?""Korea." Your grandfather says, pants on and with a cooking apron over his front. He looks at you and smiles, before switching to English. "Two? I knew you'd grow into my genes eventually!" He says with a grin.>Introduce the girls to grandpa.>"Grandpa... It's rude to speak English when they don't understand it!">"Nope. Not my girlfriends."
>Introduce the girls to grandpa.It's a good thing they don't know english.
>>24951332It's even ruder to not introduce guests!>>Introduce the girls to grandpa.
>>24951130This is why I keep my 3601H.There is nothing like coming around the corner into a pair of KV-1's who are still convinced they're kings of the battlefield, shredding them, and moving on.No wait there is. When a KV-1S is with them and it bugs out leaving them to die.
>>24951332>Introduce the girls to grandpa.
>>24951332Introduce girls to Gramps.
>>24951332>"Nope. Not my girlfriends.Better nip this in the bud, dodge potential embarrassment.
>>24951423Why lie to grandpa? We're gonna get them eventually.
>>24951332>Introduce the girls to grandpaTime to show these girls some American hospitality!
>>24951442One of them, maybe.Let's not pre-empt things.
>>24951477But who do we say is the girlfriend, and who do we say is just a friend?
>>24951530they are both our girlfriend, saying otherwise would insult the otherYOU DONT WANT TO HURT THEIR FEELINGS DO YOU
>>24951530Which is why we deny both now, to avoid problems later.
>>24951530What part of "harem" is so had to understand?
>>24951553Such things don't fly in these things.
>>24951553No.Give us at least one damn quest with a single love interest.
>>24951564says youi says, fuck you
>>24951332>Introduce the girls to grandpa.Give the old man some hope for lots of grandkids.
>>24951530>But who do we say is the girlfriendThe best that is to say my favourite girl obviously.
>>24951573SWQ, Minna only.You must be a MSQ fan.
>>24951598Great-grandkids, you mean.
>>24951608At least she's making a goddamn effort to say tank instead of panzer. On that alone she's more than a head up on the other girls already.
>>24951626I hate it.Fucking harem genre.
>>24951530At this point, I'd aim toward Yukari as "girlfriend" material, with Miho as a good friend/comrade.
You ignore him, doing otherwise would just encourage him. "Miho, Yukari, this is my grandfather."Yukari rushes forward, bombarding your grandfather with questions. "You were a tanker? A real tanker?! What position were you in the tank? Did you get any kills! I bet you were the gunner!" Grandpa Russell almost looked like he was being pushed backwards by the force and aggression of her excitement.You look over at Miho. You'd expected something, this wasn't it. Grandpa does his best to answer. "I sure was- A real tanke- I was the loa-" Each of his answers was cut short as Yukari excitedly drilled him for information.>"Yukari, calm down. We've got plenty of time to ask him questions after we have a plan for Gloriana.">Let him handle it, start talking strategy with Miho.>Other.
>"Yukari, calm down. We've got plenty of time to ask him questions after we have a plan for Gloriana."Calm down, son. Strategy first, history later.
>Let him handle it, start talking strategy with Miho.Yukari, you're so awesome!
>>24951771>Let him handle it, start talking strategy with Miho.Let her gush, she's not likely to come across someone else who was in a tank while at war anytime soon so this is a rare opportunity for her.
>>24951771>Let him handle it, start talking strategy with Miho.She's in full HOLY SHIT TANKS mode now. Let her got it out of her system. Trying to bring her back on topic will only delay the inevitable.
>>24951771>Let him handle it, start talking strategy with Miho.
>>24951771>Let her get it out of her system, start talking strategy with Maho
>>24951771>"Yukari, calm down. We've got plenty of time to ask him questions after we have a plan for Gloriana."She can hear the war stories after we plan.
>>24951771>Other"Panzer HALT!"This should get Yukari to power down and actually manage to behave like a human being. Then let the 'children' have fun, and go on speaking strategy with Miho
>>24951771>start talking strategy with MihoLet's let Grandpa take care of Yukari for a bit--we need to talk with Miho over how the heck we're gonna fight the Brits, s tarting with laying out a few of those papers and books on the closest coffee table.Also--where are our manners? Ask the girls if they would like some water or soda while dinner's being made.
>>24951931yeah, where's our damn manners?
>>24951931It's time to gentleman it up.
>>24951931>We offer them something to drink>They ask for tea>We stop and stare at them as if they're from marsTea as a refreshment is a huge divide in culture, tea drinkers in America (there are a few of them) don't ask for it at other peoples houses unless their host is actively offering.
>>24951771>Let him handle it, start talking strategy with Miho.Send a dickish grin his way first though.
Does the loader do anything other than put a round into the cannon? It seems like a job that would be easily automated to me.
>>24952075Many tanks have tried autoloaders. Numerous Russian tanks, the French, and a few American tanks.On the Whole, only the Russians got it to work right, and even then it had some significant flaws. The Yank and French ones were utter shit.It's a good idea in theory, but it's fucking tricky in practice.
>>24952075Extra pair of hands in case someone gets injured our the tank gets tracked, otherwise yeah,his position is often automated in modern tanks.The Pershing is too old for an auto-loader though.
>>24952108>his position is often automated in modern tanks.Only in Russia nowadays, and even then only on some models.
>>24952112T64s, T72, T80s and T90s all have autoloaders. Autoloaders are actually a standard feature for Soviet/Russian tanks.
>>24952075Being in that position is good for building up your strength.
>>24952105so your telling me that in 1940, the Germans figured out how to have an auto loading artillery cannon strapped to a fucking airplane, but we can figure out how to put a smaller one on a tank?
>>24952138Don't they still have a bunch of T-62s that they keep in reserve? Or am I thinking of the Ukraine?
>>24952161Wasn't that one on the plane of smaller calibre?
>>24952035Maybe we can get them to like sweet tea?
>>24952161With those, it was magazine fed, the shells literally just dropped into the gun, in a tank it's a bit differenthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv7kY8HVeKo&hd=1
>>24952162Wikipedia says that only Ukraine uses T-64s in any sort of number. And those are being upgraded to the BV variant.
>>24952161Considering the problems they had to make said systems work, they preffered a good ole loader rather than a jam-prone mechanism who would put the tank out of the fight for minutes. Only on an airplane where it was really, really, really impossible to have a loader were they forced to install an automatic loading system.3 years later, it still didn't work very well, judging from the poor results the Messerschmitt variant with the 75 mm cannon (that was supposed to "one shot" B-17's) encountered. Jams, jams, jams and more jams, out of a payload of 12 shots, the pilot was 'happy' if he managed to get 3 off.
"So, did you get the maps and everything?" You ask Miho as you take a seat at the table. Yukari has followed your grandfather back into the kitchen, asking him every question could, from the tanks he'd driven to the tanks he'd killed and how long he had fought in a tank..."Yes. It's going to be held surrounding Oorai." She says, unfolding the map on the table in front of you. "Starting point for our team is here." She says pointing at the map.You're still staring at her when she looks back up at you. "Wait... I thought Oorai was on our ship."She laughs. "Our ship is named after the City of Oorai."You nod sagely. "I see. Go on." She points to a place on the map- a short, hilly pass. "I was thinking we set up an ambush point here. I looked at satellite photos and it's just barely wide enough for a couple of tanks to move up abreast- and it's an uphill climb, so their Matildas and Churchills will have a lot of trouble with it." The two support tanks were slow enough on even ground- but put them on even a slight grade and they'd slow down to a crawl.>"They're going to expect an ambush, especially right there in the perfect spot for an ambush.">"That's a lot of depression- are you sure our tanks will be able to fire on them without exposing themselves?">"It it goes south, how easily can we pull back?"
>>24952199>comic sans>that horrible black background removal>that accenti made it 55 seconds in before i had to turn it off
>>24952161The German Bordkanonen Jammed. A *lot*.The Russians, and the Japanese use Autoloaders, mostly in an effort to keep tank weight down by eliminating the loader. If the Autoloader fails, manually loading is fucking horrendous, especially without a dedicated loader.Most western tanks, which tend towards being heavier (Abrams, Leaopard 2, Challenger 2) don't need to give so much of a fuck about weight, and so a loader is easier and more reliable.>>24952215He said T-62. The T-64 used an Autoloader. And for the Record, Russia still does have a couple thousand T-62s in storage, but plans to scrap them this year.
>>24952239>"They're going to expect an ambush, especially right there in the perfect spot for an ambush."
>>24952239>"That's a lot of depression- are you sure our tanks will be able to fire on them without exposing themselves?"
>"They're going to expect an ambush, especially right there in the perfect spot for an ambush."
>>24952239>>"It it goes south, how easily can we pull back?"An ambush spot is good and all, but we'll need a way to easily pull back if things get screwy
>>24952239>"That's a lot of depression- are you sure our tanks will be able to fire on them without exposing themselves?"Doesn't matter if the expect an ambush if they walk into it anyway, but this shit will sting.
The problem with autoloaders is largely twofold: Capacity and Reliability.Most autoloaders can only relatively few shots, and replenishing those shots is often a difficult process which requires the tank to be taken out of combat.The other problem is one of reliablity. A trained loader will get the shell loaded on-time every time. (Unless he's hurt/killed, but even that would knock out the autoloader in the same case. Even then, another crew member can usually take over his position.) Even a reliable autoloader is going to have a much larger frequency of error, and being that it's often a large, complicated bit of machinery, it generally means that the tank is mission-dead until it gets pulled back to a workshop to have it fixed.
>>24952239>"That's a lot of depression- are you sure our tanks will be able to fire on them without exposing themselves?"For an ambush you only need to hit then run. But you can't ambush if you can't hit them at all.
>>24952239>>"It it goes south, how easily can we pull back?""How about a leapfrogging ambush? The tanks with heavy guns - The Stug, Black Jacka nd the Lee - draw tehm into the ambush alley, where the tanks with shorter-ranged guns engage at close range. Then they pull back under covering fire from the longer ranged tanks, at which point we draw them out into another set of favourable terrain."
>>24952336Switching my vote to this
>>24952138>Autoloaders are actually a standard feature for Soviet/Russian tanks.Not on the T-55 and T-62 which are still in use, not by Russia, but most of Africa and much of the Middle-east.
>>24952336I don't think that will work. It looks great on paper but it requires a lot of teamwork, constant and clear communication, and nobody save Miho has any experience in that field.Still, it would be a great way to train (which is the whole point of this), if you don't mind an embarrassing defeat.
>>24952427Well it's either that or draw them into a cityfight from the start.
>>24952442I think the ambush plan will work, we just need a strong crossfire. Instead of putting all our tanks on highground we should make some of the ones with weaker guns lay in wait on the flanks, with the highground tanks as bait.
>>24952462Use the smaller tanks to ram the shit out of them
>>24952545The guns will work fine man. Except on the I-Go, that thing should ram them.
"How easily can we draw back when it starts going badly?" You say, looking at the map. Matildas were slow and had relatively weak 2pdr guns, but the 38(t) and I-Go, as well as the M3's 37mm turret, wouldn't be able to penetrate their armor unless they got lucky- that left the StuG, Panzer IV and Black Jack doing the heavy lifting."Slight grade- we're near the top of the hill too so we'd have cover from them as soon as we pulled back." She says drawing her finger along the path."So, assuming we won't knock them all out at once, what do we do then?" You look at the map, after a short drop, the path back onto a road that lead down the valley into Oorai.Miho smiles viciously. "We draw them back into Oorai and engage them in urban fighting- it'll be a lot easier to get around to their side and rear armor there." She looks up at you. "In that kind of situation, Black Jack becomes a terror weapon- they won't know where you are, exactly, so they won't be able to move as aggressively because you can easily knock out any of their tanks and then disappear again.">"Wait, isn't Oorai a city? With people?">"Do we know what tanks they'll be using?">"What about the rest of our tanks? I don't think Black Jack can carry this entire battle."
>>24952545Or have the 38t and I-Go track them, split them up, and we can pick them off. If they stay together to repair, we can bombard them at long range with the 90mm and StuG.
>>24952578>"Do we know what tanks they'll be using?"If we know the specific tanks, we can adjust our tactics much better.
>>24952578>"Wait, isn't Oorai a city? With people?"
>>24952578>>"Do we know what tanks they'll be using?"They've seen Black Jack. If they Bring anything with a 17-pounder, this is going to be very touch-and-go.
>"Wait, isn't Oorai a city? With people?"Seeing how he's new to this, we should get it overwith.
>>24952578>>"Wait, isn't Oorai a city? With people?">>"Do we know what tanks they'll be using?">>"What about the rest of our tanks? I don't think Black Jack can carry this entire battle."All three.
>>24952578>Do we know what tanks they'll be using?If there were ever a more appropriate time for Yukari to show up randomly, it would be now.
>>24952578>>"Wait, isn't Oorai a city? With people?">"Wait, isn't Oorai a city? With people?"
>>24952584Use the I-Go asa distarction while everyone else fires at them
>>24952578>"What about the rest of our tanks? I don't think Black Jack can carry this entire battle."
>>24952648Who would waste ammo on the I-go while there are tanks to actually worry about out and about?
>>24952666stick I-go with signal equipment, act as eyes while we snipe in that case? also stick a disguised gun for emergency use
>>24952686Not historical, and we don't have the parts, time, or expertise.
>>24952666They might try machine gunning it thus leaving themselves open. Sound familiar?
"So wait... We're allowed to fight in the city?" You say, looking at the map. "Aren't there people there? And property?" You're actually a bit worried about this particular point.Miho shakes her head. "Don't worry- they evacuate everyone to a safe distance before hand. And the government insures them for property damage caused by Senshado." That's got to be pretty expensive, considering some of the firepower being thrown around.You get up. "I'm gonna get a drink, you want a coke or something?" You say, heading for the kitchen.She smiles. "Yes, thank you!"As you enter the kitchen Yukari has taken a post by the sink while grandfather regales her with his old story about how his squad had held of over thirty Chinese T-34s in one night. "I swear, it went right through and blew the turret off the tank behind it." You say in unision with him as you open the fridge and get out a few cans of coke. You throw one to Yukari, sure that a bit of caffiene and sugar would calm her right down.>"I've heard this one a hundred times.">"I see Grandpa's giving you all his old Black Jack stories.">"Did you tell her the one about the IS-2 yet?"
>"I see Grandpa's giving you all his old Black Jack stories."I have a feeling that Granddad might end up encouraging us to go for Yukari (I get the impression she's being the (grand)daughter he never had)
>>24952742>"Did you tell her the one about the IS-2 yet?"Alright, this got me curious.
>>24952742>>"Did you tell her the one about the IS-2 yet?"We'll be fighting an IS-2 vs Pravda, so I want to hear this.
>>24952742>"Did you tell her the one about the IS-2 yet?"Tactical Briefing ain't over yet, let's keep the tank fanatics out of it for a while!
>"Did you tell her the one about the IS-2 yet?"
>>24952742>"Did you tell her the one about the IS-2 yet?"
>>24952138>Autoloaders are actually a standard feature for Soviet/Russian tanks.and nowadays they are a standard feature if you're not running a chally, a leo 2 of MUH ABRAMS
>>24951371Shoving one or more of them off a ledge into water with an M-6 Heavy is always hilarious.
>>24952823The Non-Borscht ones are still kinda crap, though.
>>24952314if you're talking about tanks pre 1970, you're spot on, after 1975~80 they have been running successfully with no problems, its just that most armies had spent to much on their training and armaments to warrant a change, now that everything is obsolete autoloaders are being put on any newly developed MBT
>>24952855not really, the terrible ones were all phased out/replaced in the early T72's, only the terrible export models still have them, everything and everyone else who cant afford the big 3 (m1, chally 2 & leo 2) runs them fine.
>>24952899>24952899Not to mention the only NATO tank that can fire on the move at top speed, the Leclerc, has an autoclapper.
"Did he tell you his story about the IS-2?" you say, looking over to your grandfather with a wry smile. He sighs dramatically as Yukari looks at him expectantly."Alright, alright." He finally says. "So, we were about a hundred miles North of the 38th- we'd been pushing the DPRK forces back for two weeks," He says pounding his fist into his palm to illustrate the point. "It was the first time we had seen Chinese tanks in the war- and theere they were, coming right up the valley following the river."He stops for a second to stir the chili. "So, they don't see us yet, 'cause we're up just below the top of a ridge on a little service road, so they're just filing past us on their way to Seoul, I guess. Anyway, Hitchens he wants to open up on them right there, but our Commander has the entire group- Four of us Pershings and another dozen Easy-8s- hold fire until their entire line was in front of us."Yukari is absolutely mesmerized by the story already, nodding like a kid getting advice from Santa Clause on being a good kid.>Stay for the end.>Miho needs her soda.
>>24952986>Stay for the end.Story time is always fun.
>>24952986>Stay for the end.Damn right we gonna hear it. Learn stuff from elders.>captcha: remainrk atttackRemain attack. That's a tactic!
>>24952986Stay for the end. It might actually have some application to what we will be facing.
>>24952986>Miho needs her soda.Don't be rude, now.
>>24952986>Miho needs her soda.This, plus we (the character, not us /tg/'ers) have probably heard this a quadrillion times already, plus we still have tactics to discuss and that's a lot easier without having to deal with a lecherous old man and a crazy tank freak.
>>24952986Do any of us look like the story hater kind?>Stay for the end.
>>24952986>Miho needs her coke.If we're suggesting it, we know it already. (I Still wanna hear it BlackJack!)Yukari is cute, but I'd like to make less of a doormat out of Miho if we can....
>>24952986>Stay for the endWar stories from old relatives are the best.
>>24953024Us /tg/'er no. The quest character, yes!
>>24952986Ambush scenario?Stay and listen! It may give inspiration!
>>24952986>Stay for the end.you dont tempt us with awesome stories then walk away
>>24952986>Stay for the end.improvised tactics lesson GO!
>>24952986>> Miho needs her soda.
>>24952986> Miho needs her soda.
>>24952986>Stay for the end.we could use the impromptu lesson to learn
>Miho needs her soda then come back.If not for the whole Miho waiting on her drink, I'd choose the other choice.
>>24952986>miho needs her sodaAren't we trying not to be rude? We offered a girl a drink here!
Can we at least give Miho her soda then excuse ourselves for a bit? Don't leave her to dry, damnit.
>>24953071she'll get her drink, but if we give it to her now, when we get back gramps will be like "And thats how I single handedly won the war"
>>24953082Yukari might believe that too, Korea wasn't really a tanker's war. neither was it a victory.Stupid Macarthur.
>>24952986that exchange took what, all of 30seconds? Miho can wait 30seconds more>Stay for the end.
It's not a long story- none of them are- so you opt to stick around and hear it again."So we're holding our fire, waiting for the Commander to have us open up and then when the last tank enters the valley- that's when we opened up. BOOMBAMBAMBAMBLAM!" He shouts. "We knocked out the last tanks in the line first, so they couldn't just back out, but we're looking at that IS-2 at the front. And he swivels his turret up to look at us." He motions with his hand to illustrate the action."We're looking straight down that barrel when Hitchens opens up and nails the poor bastard right on the tip of the cannon as the goo-I mean the IS-2 fires and we must've set it off in the tube because the cannon just explodes outward like an Elmer Fudd cartoon." He laughs. "Saw the entire thing through my loader's periscope. So the crew of IS-2, they know they've got nothing so the lucky sons of bitches bail out, all four of them run for the river. We spent a good ten minutes just sitting there firing- was a turkey shoot." He laughs a bit. "Most of the poor bastards just abandoned their tanks at the start- the Brits we were overwatching must've captured near-a-hundred Chinese tankers and- this is the best part. There were two IS-2s in the formation- We destroyed the gun on the one we shot, but the other had it's hull gutted by a fire."Yukari's eyes light up. "You were part of the group that captured #768?!"Grandpa's eyes light up. "Well, most of it- the gun came from the other IS."You have a laugh as Yukari almost falls to her knees. She has trouble speaking. "This is... It's just so cool..."
Next time on Girls und Panzer Quest...-Yukari has a new best friend ever.-Miho shows you how to plan a multi-tank strategy-Anzu is annoyed.Girls und Panzer Quest will return Thursday between 5-6PM PST. Expect a short one, because I have to leave for Fanime Friday morning.
>>24953307I think foxy grandpa made Yukari orgasm just from speaking.I hope we managed to inherit that particular gene.
>>24953321>-Anzu is annoyed.Good. Fuck that bitch.
>>24953344Oh boy here we go
>>24953321Here's a question I'd like to get out of the way: One girl only?
>>24953357ask in the next thread, he's sleepin'
>>24953357I don't mind either way. Though if we go the one-girl route it'll probably be a Yukari route.Which is sad because I'm a Mihofag. But oh well,
>>24953321Okay, so, Yukari is bro-ing thing sup with Gramps, and we actually get some solid planning with Miho done. Good.Anzu begin annoyed strikes me as her being pissed we've gone of to plan this without keeping her in the loop. Because I can't figure out what else we've done so far that'd do it. Though Politicians shouldn't be doing the military planning anyway.
>>24953387>Though Politicians shouldn't be doing the military planning anyway.QFT
>>24953387>>24953392If Anus's pissed at us, this is the retort we should use. The dumb decisions of repainting the tank was pretty much politically motivated, to get public support for her war, as was the press-ganging and extortion of Miho into participating.She started this war, and now she should button up and leave the planning and war-making to the ones trained for this sort of thing - Us and Miho.
>>24953416>AnusJesus christ, even the autocorrect hates her.
>>24952108>>24952105>>24952112>>24952138>>24952161American crews manually reload faster than Russian autoloaders, and don't jam. The expense of an autoloader really isn't justified if a soldier can do the job faster and better.
>>24953595>American crews manually reload faster than Russian autoloadersthis is the problem everyone forgets, the russian arnt the only ones with autoloaders, and the russian ones are now vastly improvedeveryone who is developing new tanks, or using license built tanks that are not the big 3 use autoloaders to the same effectiveness as a traditional 4-5 man crew for less cost and upkeepautoloaders are the way of the future
>>24953595Only barely, and the latest arguably match manual loading times under combat conditions. Not that you ever need to fire that fast in a modern engagement anyway. Reliability has improved such that jams are very infrequent, and the Autoloader sustains a better RoF on the move.Autoloaders just get bad press in Yankeestan because of the shitty, pre-'75 autoloader design used on the monkeymodel T-72 exports. The ones that jack-in-the-box'd the turrets off. Those were shit. All modern Autoloading tanks use far safer and more sensible storage paradigms.The argument that if the loader is incapacitated, other crewmembers can take over his job is somewhat specious - if the loader is sufficiently injured to be put completely out of action, it's highly probably that other crew members have been too.Another point to rememember is that the provision of the autolaoder on modern Russian tanks aids in achieving the reduction in weight of over 20t compared to non-autoloading western tanks, while retaining comparable protection and superior armament. This on top of the reduced crew vastly reduces the logistical trail and greatly contributes to improved cross-country mobility thanks to the far greater power-to-weight ratio. Deriding autoloaders in a pure vacuum of "loaders load faster and don't jam" is blatantly fallacious in addition to being factually questionable.
>>24953720Doubtful. Autoloaders still have massive flaws, where the ammo is stored being the biggest one. Manually loaded tanks store their rounds behind a blast door that channels the explosion out the top of the tank. Not sure if the Ruskies ever fixed that issue on their tanks, but damn if there aren't some nasty ammo cook-offs from even the T-80's.
>>24953921Good point, but any shot penetrating hard enough to set off the ammo would already seriously harm the crew.
>>24953921>Manually loaded tanks store their rounds behind a blast door that channels the explosion out the top of the tankSo do modern Autoloaders.>Not sure if the Ruskies ever fixed that issue on their tanksThey did. They have for decades.> but damn if there aren't some nasty ammo cook-offs from even the T-80's.That's less a problem of the autoloader and ammo storage as it was idiotic use of unescorted MBTs being used to storm a city, and crewed by questionably-trained, inexperienced crews.There were a whole lot of problems with that damned Chechen war, but the Design of the T-80 was not one of them.
>>24953921>Autoloaders still have massive flaws, where the ammo is stored being the biggest one.the vast majority of western designed autoloaders store them in exactly the same place as their non autoloaded compatriots, in the rear of the turretits why so many modern MBT's have massively elongated turrets that cover their rear deckplease, stop sucking the cock of the propaganda that you've been fedthe tech suck, so we improved it, and now the tech does not suck
>>24953921>channels the explosion out the REAR of the TURRETftfy