Welcome to the sixth episode of A Game of Thrones – The Quest of House Harrock.Previously: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/24475272/All Previous Threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=HarrockIn this quest, the year is 284AL and it is six months after Robert Baratheon was crowned king. You are Lord Artys Harrock, thirty-eight years old and the head of House Harrock, sworn to House Arryn of the Mountain and Vale. You are a dedicated, devoted and cunning man, eager to see the rebirth of your house from its ruined state. With a head for numbers, a good sword-hand and an exotic Valyrian yataghan named 'Ambition,' you shall lead your family to new wealth and new stability.During the last episode, you arranged for a meeting with House Egen and brought about the end of the month. Developing your military for the coming battle, you founded a company of well-trained and well-armed infantry known as the Woodsmen and created an additional garrison to guard High Harrock. To help fund this you placed a claim on Northmarsh Fields, a swath of fertile farmland at the very North of your territory and highly contested by House Belmore. You spent some time with your family in the quiet before the storm but now the chaos is almost upon you. Loras Egen is coming to visit.Is anyone interested in continuing?
Also, this episode is Sleepy Stannis Edition.
>>24532547>Is anyone interested in continuing?Do King Robert and Queen Cersei share a loving marriage that will bring peace and stability to the glorious land of Westeros?Yes, of course!
House hardcock is ready to rape.
>>24532662This isn't Blatant Fetish Quest, sorry.
>>24532662>>24532661>>24532605It's a start. Hopefully we'll grab more interest as we go along.A collection of important characters, for those who like the little details:>http://pastebin.com/PsCVnNnv
Westpass. This is your land, your territory, your home. It's a harsh and unforgiving place, sparsely populated by evergreens and hardy shrubs. It's a steep valley filled with sudden falls, treacherous cliffs and unexpected gutters and furrows. Anyone who lives in this part of the Vale of Arryn quickly learns to walk softly and with great care.Splitting Westpass in half is a great river just as unimaginatively named, the Westflow. Born from a great sheet of water that descends from the mountains, the small stream quickly transforms into a great raging current, with many muddy little rills and brooks contributing to its size. Despite the dangerous pace at which it flows, there are a few safe places where the river can be forded.Clinging to the mountains on either side of the Westflow, the road for which the region is named winds and bends, a well-worn path of gravel and dirt that it is your duty to protect and maintain. One of the few routes in and out of the Vale, many merchants use the Westpass for their trade routes for a certain fee. To the North, the road leads to Strongsong. To the East, the road leads to Crown Crag.Finally, there are the great structures of Westpass. The hub of civilisation is High Harrock, a grim and foreboding structure that brings comfort to the inhabitants of the region as the sole provider of protection, boasting an iron mine and great solid stone walls. Then there are the two towers that guard it; Skycliff built amongst the peaks and Wetrock built upon a solid stone foundation beside the Westflow.But what about the people who live here? There are a few thousand smallfolk scattered throughout the land, in huts and hovels that dot the rocky landscape. It's a hard life but honest life, where they harvest and farm what they can, whenever they can. Some keep herds of hardy mountain goats for their meat and milk, while others farm lettuces, berries and edible ferns.This is your land and these are your people. Treat them well.
Waking up with the sun after a very pleasant night beside your wife, you go through the morning rituals of cleansing your body and dressing yourself appropriately for the day ahead. For once, the feast hall of High Harrock shall need to be brightly lit and filled with luxury, for you are playing host to your neighbour, Lord Loras Egen. If you plan on marrying his daughter to your son then you need to impress. On the other hand, you need not distract him too much from the matter at hand. The eradication of the Milk Snake clan comes soon.With the assistance of your uncle you have the servants arrange and clean the tables and ensure that the vast stony hall is not only well-lit but spotless, a hard thing to achieve after the impoverished and destitute times of the past seven months. Eventually the room is made presentable if a little austere and the fragrances of cooking fill the air from the nearby kitchens. Perhaps you should breath life into this grand room more often.Is there anything specific that you would like to in preparation from Lord Egen's visit, or any unrelated activity you need to attend to before he arrives?
>>24532688It was a metaphor.
>>24532761Just make sure everything is in place, this is not a pleasurable visit, we're marching to bitchslap some savages.
>>24532761Should we have Brock be present at the meeting with Egen, or will he look like too much of a fat retard?
I fixed the armored Artys MS Paint edition by the way. If you don't like the warhammer I can sub it out for Ambition.
>>24532807If he shuts up he'll only look fat.
>>24532814>>24532807Is it just me or is half of this quest talking about how fat and stupid Brock is?He's like the anti-waifu.
>>24532761Do we know of any particular food he likes? Or a certain type of drink he prefers? Having that to offer him would perhaps help to endear him to us?Also, if we are to ask him for his daughter's hand for Brock, surely we need to make sure Brock is presentable, is at our side, and does all he can to make Lord Egen like him... especially if his son, and first heir, is going to have an accident one day...We should also have some of our men doing drills as he arrives, to show him their skill, but pass it off as a quiet day for your troops, that they're normally out patrolling and pushing back the Milk Snake menace.
>>24532790I second this. Maybe we should show some of our newly created military muscle to convince Egen we mean business against the Milk Snakes.
>>24532839We have a kickass character and he had to have a fat retarded cunt for a son, we're in our right to hate him.
>>24532839I don't think he's too bad anymore - he's learnt a certain amount of respect for us, and he's made some good contributions in the war council (better than his tutor, at least). He'll be alright as long as we keep working on him.
>>24532842>>24532845>>24532790Confirming the drilling of your soldiers and a certain emphasis on the battle ahead. Business above pleasantries.>>24532807>>24532814>>24532839>>24532866>>24532864Any consensus for whether or not you want Brock to attend?
>>24532920Attend but make sure that he only watches and shuts the fuck up. If he makes any attempt to open his mouth give him the blue steel look.
>>24532920Have him present, but convince him to keep his mouth shut unless spoken to. It's important experience for him. He will lead our house, he needs to learn how to conduct himself as a lord among other lords.
>>24532995>>24532958inb4 Lord Egen asks him all sorts of shit and he answers by breathing through his teeth and making low grunting noises.
>>24532920He can attend, and he can answer if Lord Egen speaks to him. He needs to know what it is to meet another lord, and seeing us will show how to act in such a situation.We need to mould him into our image, and we best get started, as there's a hell of a lot of him to mould.
>>24533050We have enough material to mould him, that's for sure>Inb4 fat jokes 101
>>24533050>>24533029>>24532995>>24532958You make sure that all of the men are drilled and practising. The garrison of High Harrock is training in courtyard while the castle's marksmen are manning the walls, keeping a lookout for any guests, expected or otherwise. As for your son, while he's allowed to attend the meeting you insist that he keeps his mouth shut unless told otherwise. Don't want the fat child spoiling everything.After all of the preparations have been made, you wait. The sun rises higher in the sky and eventually, the esteemed lord comes riding up through the gates of High Harrock. A little late perhaps, but you get the feeling that was his intention. The faux-Braavosi lord certainly seems like the sort of man who likes to feel important. Stepping out into the cool Vale air to greet the man yourself, you're offered a slightly nervous smile by Loras as he dismounts.“Lord Harrock, it is such a pleasure to see you again! I am glad to see that you are in good health – might I introduce you to my master-at-arms, Ser Crowlys? An excellent knight and the man who handles the military affairs of my house.”This Ser Crowlys offers a curt bow, seeming quite uncomfortable wearing courtier's fashion. You get the impression that the stocky, muscular man is certainly more used to wearing leather and steel than velvet and silk.You get the impression your neighbour expected a more pleasant and jovial atmosphere. Lord Loras certainly seems a bit put off by all of the bristling metal and soldiers hard at work, while his sworn sword seems to be analysing and admiring the display."Perhaps we might head inside, Lord Harrock? I've got quite the chill during my journey."
>>24533029>>24533064>Brock's when in an awkward social situation getting lunch
>>24533111Ser Crowlys is suitably impressed by our demeanour, I'm sure he'll be mindful of what we say.I'm scared shitless the faggy lord is going to ask the pants of Brock out of boredom. Oh shit oh shit.
>>24533111Oh jesus, we allied with the fairy of the kingdom. Goddamit, god fucking dammit. I hope he's better in military affairs and he only takes this as a joke just because they're savages.Proper greeting and let's direct them to the hall. Get them some beverages and put them out to speed about everything. Let's mention the arrows detail, and keep an eye on them to see if their reaction seems suspicious, yes I'm paranoid still, I can't avoid being paranoid.
>>24533111"Of course, thank you for coming. There is food waiting in the hall and I would much like to discuss our preparations with you and Ser Crowlys. My own sworn advisors will join us."
>>24533111The princess lord is going to be miffed if we don't offer him food and drink and put his mind at ease. Send for a servant to fetch the most expensive drink and food we have lying around.
>>24533111Apologise that things aren't quite as festive as you might have done normally, but given the current military situation, we have obviously been busy dealing with the mountain savages.Then get them into the hall, get the food and drink flowing, and introduce our family to him, and have a meal, before we get down to business.
>>24533201Crowlys pretty evidently runs the military side of his house. I'm pretty sure the lord is just sitting on his ass (or cocks) all day long, pretending he's a high lord.Ser Crowlys is our way into getting anything done, militarily speaking.
>>24533204>>24533201>>24533193>>24533242>>24533266You settle down for a pleasant meal – an extravagant one compared to the usual affair. All sorts of meats and cheeses and different foods from throughout the Vale. Hardly a feast but still quite an expense. It's worth it if it leaves a positive impression on your ostentatious neighbour though. Your son is present, as well as your war council – the honourable knights Morys, Tenry, Boros and Lyn, with the new additional Captain Bonaris, commanding officer of the Woodsmen. It seems like Lord Loras cares little for military matters, as the only men he brought with him other than his guard detail are his young son Alber and his knight, Ser Crowlys.After some small talk and little chatter, eventually the sworn sword of House Egen begins the more serious discussion. His lord seems happy enough to sit back and listen, hiding his bored expression in his goblet.“Thank you for your hospitality, my lord but I would like to speak about the battle that you're planning. If House Egen is to lend its assistance, then a few basic rules will need be laid out. My militia take orders from me alone and no other. In addition to this, we will contribute no more than four hundred men. We need reserves, in case of an assault on Crown Crag. I hope you find this agreeable, Lord Harrock?”
>>24533288How many of our own men do we have again? Like 500?
>>24533311This, need a rundown on our military reports. Total of our troops, and how many did the savages had according to our scouts, 700? more?
Just popped out the hole for thisLets get it going
>>24533288Hell yes. That's double our own force. Commence mountain rapings.Give an offhand compliment about Crowlys' foresight and caution. We wouldn't leave our own holdfasts unprotected either.
>>24533323>>24533311100 Green Garrison (High Harrock Guardsmen)100 Trained Garrison (Skycliff Guardsmen)100~ Trained Garrison (Wetrock Guardsmen)100 Trained Infantry (The Woodsmen) (Castle-forged weapons and armour)100 Trained Archers (Harrock Marksmen)100 Trained Guerrillas (Tenry's Mountain Rangers)100 Trained Guerrillas (Boros' Wetland Rangers)
>>24533311We have 200 Trained Garrison, 100 Green Garrison, 100 Trained Archers, 100 Trained Guerillas (Mountain Rangers), 100 Trained Guerillas (Wetland Rangers), and 100 Green Infantry, I believe it is.>>24533288That's fine! Their men, plus ours (leaving our garrisons behind), gives us roughly equal numbers to the savages, and that includes their women, children and old, and if we have the range advantage, we should be able to cut many of them down before they reach our lines.But yea, we wouldn't expect them to give over command of their own forces to us, and leaving men to guard Crown Crag just makes tactical sense.I honestly don't think we're going to get a better deal than this.
>>24533344This. I've got no problems with that, can we get an idea of what kinds of troops he'll be loaning us?
>>24533359I am extremely cautious about taking just 400 of our men, and the 400 by Lord Fabulous. That's just 800 men, vs 700 clansmen and who knows how many of the mysterious archers.
>>24533359>>24533385Ahh, didn't realise they were Trained Infantry. Fuck yea!So yea, we each then contribute 400 men, which will be equal or more than the clan's warriors, and equal to their entire population, which should do us fine.
Try to convince him to go to 500 hundred
>>24533398Agreed, how many did Egen have available?
>>24533414I doubt he'll agree, as we'll only commit 400.
>>24533398>>24533344>>24533323You recall the report that Ser Tenry gave you a while ago.>Three hundred civilians. Potential combatants, likely inexperienced.>Three hundred raiders, armed and armoured for quick assaults, not prolonged fights. Some of them seem quite green but most carry themselves well. They probably do most of the hunting.>A large group of big brutes. Some have castle-forged axes and hammers. Heavy hitters, seem to be well-trained. They guard the chief, old one-eyed bastard with muscles like a bear. Maybe a hundred of them.>A bunch of slingers. A hundred or so, not very well-armed or very well-trained.Roughly a hundred of the mountain men died from the night raids you had organised - and in addition, you killed around a hundred raiders.
>>24533427Oh bollocks, no, we can't go that tight into battle, it's just asking for trouble. Try to leverage some more troops of his part by explaining the mysterious archer fact.
>>24533427This sounds too good to be true. If we head out in full force, I know we'll be ambushed by our asshole bastard brother. It just sounds entirely too easy.
>>24533459I suppose, but we can't push it - we need this alliance, and pushing it too hard and too fast will just result in them taking all their soldiers home and leaving us in the shit.>>24533471I still think we should put out feelers about at least talking to our brother - he might have turned, but in his eyes, we turned on him, so clearing the air, at least, might be worth it, if it results in one less enemy to worry about.Plus we could do with the extra military forces he'd bring with him when it comes to the inevitable fight with House Belmore.He's still our blood, after all.
>>24533501No, we are not gonna fucking deal with the bastard, you're just adding sharks into the pool.
>>24533418>>24533414>>24533424House Egen has:>300 Trained Militia (armed with proper weapons)>200 Green Militia (armed with crude weapons)>100 Scouts (Forest)When questioned, Ser Crowlys says that he'll be willing to commit two hundred of his trained militia and the two green men, with the hopes that this battle will provide them with greater experience.When questioned about the archers, Ser Crowlys is sceptical."While I believe that they could know how to use bows, the hill tribes don't have the facilities to craft arrows like those. They don't have the tools or the forges required to shape steel. Either these savages are being sponsored by another lord of the Vale or they looted a company of archers. Perhaps my scouts can survey the area the night before we attack? I'm not willing to risk any more of House Egen's forces on the assault."
>>24533597>>>24533424>two hundred green men.My brain.
>>24533597Agree with him on scouting ahead. If we're going to go balls out to the enemy, we need intel. Send out rangers of our own too.
>>24533597Okay we're not getting anymore shit, let's just accept and agree to the scouting.
>>24533597Sure, have his scouts check it out beforehand. The numbers he promised are good enough.
>>24533530When he has a military about 2-3 times the size of ours, however, we might not have a choice in the matter, and we won't get help from any other House to deal with that, because it's an internal family issue.Either way, we're not fighting our bastard brother just yet, we need to focus on the clans.>>24533597Urgh... only half his men being trained soldiers, and them all being nothing but militia, is fairly shit. I'd hoped they'd have a decent military, but yea, looks like that's all the men we'll get out of them.Agree with it, along with the scouts surveying the night before the attack - but they'll go with some of our rangers, and our rangers will be in command, since they know the land better than the Egen scouts.
>>24533653If you deal with him there's two possible outcomes:He realizes we're weak and he murders us or he realizes we're weak, uses our proposal as a safe pass for him and his troops beyond our castle walls and murders everyone. Not happening brah.
>>24533653He probably spends half his wealth on fancy clothes and young boys rather than on his military.
>>24533530seconding this. Fuck our bastard brother for all eternity
>>24533638>>24533639>>24533648>>24533653Ser Crowlys and his lord both seem quite amiable to that agreement. Now is the time to discuss strategy.According to Ser Tenry, the easiest way of accessing the grove that the mountain men call their home is from the North. If we approach it during the day, your army is likely to be spotted the moment it arrives. Alternatively, attacking in the night removes a lot of the advantages that your archers possess although it will allow you to deploy much closer.In addition, each commander can lead a hundred men for every point of Warfare they have. Who do you want to lead what?>Ser Morys (Warfare 5)>Ser Tenry (Warfare 4)>Ser Boros (Warfare 3)>Ser Lyn (Warfare 3)>Lord Artys Harrock (Warfare 3)>Squire Brock Harrock (Warfare 3)
>>24533821Ser Tentry should take the rangers and archers. He'll know where to put them in position best and how to use them most effectively.Ser Morys should handle the brunt of the infantry to coordinate them and keep them working cohesively. Sers Boros, Lyn, ourself and Brock could take whatever's left.
>>24532761I am still proud of this coat of arms, one of my finest works.
>>24533821hello OP,have been waiting for this!
>>24533821Move out at night. Our burning arrows will light up the night sky,Morys and Tenry will obviously lead two units. We will lead one ourselves. I'm quite sure Brock could lead a hundred men too, but he's not done being a squire yet, so it's not an option yet and it will piss off the other commanders.. Have him by our side.
>>24533821Approach during the late night allowing us to get into a decent position and attack at dawn. Best of both worlds.for numbers I second this >>24533858
>>24533821Ser Morys need to be in charge of our trained infantry, since they're the center piece of our formation.Tenry in charge of a guerrilla Boros in charge of another guerrilla.We can lead the archers. Also we'll attack during the day, I think having so many ranged troops would be a waste to screw them attacking over-night.
>>24533821Have Boros lead his Wetland Rangers, and Tenry his Mountain Rangers - have Ser Morys in overall command, as well as leading the archers and we'll command the Woodmen, in the thick of the fight with the men of the Westpass.Brock isn't coming with us, just in case, and Ser Lyn and our uncle will stay back with him. This is our fight, not Lyn's.>>24533906I was thinking... could we approach during the night, when we can't be spotted, and attack at the first light of dawn? We will catch most of them in their beds, where our fire arrows will make quick work of them, and give us the benefit of our three-hundred archers and rangers.
>>24533949Excellent idea. Attack at dawn after taking the most advantageous position late at night/very early in the morning while it's still dark.
>>24533821We should think about Brock leading a hundred men think of the experience to he could gain from it. Even if it's a simple safe job
>>24533932Oh wait a 100 troops per warfare, that's stupid then. Have Morys in charge of infantry+archers. The rest stays the same since we're gonna split the guerrillas and shove them in their rear when they're attracted by our infantry+archers.
>>24533906Ohh... potentially, could Boros command the two units of Rangers, and Tenry stays behind with Brock - if we fall, Brock will need a loyal sworn sword at his side, and as loyal as Boros has shown himself to be, Tenry is of the Vale and Mountain, his blood is from these very rocks.
>>24533977better yet if it's not a safe job we lose an incompetent heir. It's a win win
>>24533977Or we could kill him in that assignment. It's cool.
>>24533949Wasn't Lyn given to us by Lord Aryn to help us beat the mountain clans how is the not his fight? This is the exact definition of his fight.
>>24533997It'd be a win-win if we fucked our way into another heir.
>>24533977>>24533997You might not like him, but Brock is still our heir, and we need to ensure that our line, and the stability of the Westpass, continues if we fall. We can't risk him in battle.
>>24533997I can see it now.>D-did I do you proud, Art-... f-father..?
>>24534026we have a daughter and a wife with which to make more sons. It wouldn't be the end of the world if he died. And if he doesn't he gets to love us more because we are giving him responsibility and all that
>>24534026We have to risk him in battle. He NEEDS to prove himself, to us, to his dickass knight, to himself. He needs a chance to shine and to prove to everyone that he is worthy of being our heir.He fights from the front, same as us.
>>24534026Where would the Lanisters be if Twyin didn't risk himself in battle against house Reyne? Heirs fight in battle all the time plus he's even good at it.
>>24534049But if we're ambushed by the force using the arrows, we could die, if the Seven will it so, and if Brock is with us, he'll die too, and we can't leave all our lands in the hands of a girl who isn't even of age yet, who will in time marry, and House Harrock will cease to be.>>24534074Fine - if he fights, however, it is next to us, by our side, with us, as his father, showing him how a true war is fought.He should stand with us, leading the Woodsmen infantry, in the thick of the fighting.
>>24534101Then it ceads to be. Glory doesn't await for cowards!
>>24533949>>24533932>>24533906>>24533992Ser Tenry leads:>Mountain Rangers.Ser Boros leads:>Wetland RangersSer Morys leads:>Harrock MarksmenLord Artys Harrock leads:>The WoodsmenMost of your men seem satisfied with this situation and Ser Crowlys also finds it appropriate - one man should not carry an entire army on his shoulders, otherwise his death might throw everything into disarray.Ser Lyn interrupts, as he would like the honour of leading the Woodsmen.Your son remains silent, if uncomfortably so.
>>24534129Ser Lyn will accompany Brock and us personally. Feed him lines about how the safety of our house is in his hands. We want a strong willed, trained knight at our side in the heat of battle, a man we can trust with our lives.
>>24534129I'm fine with Ser Lyn leading the Woodsmen so long as their Captain consents to it and they can work together.
>>24534129we should brock fight with us. at least.put him 2d row center. so he can get exp and prove himself
>>24534129fuck that faggot. Could have asked for any unit and chooses the one we are leading.Divide the woodsmen in half so that we can both lead. After all he was sent by the Eyrie specifically for this purpose.
>>24534129I say let him the more he likes the more Jon Ayrn will
>>24534129I always image Ser Lyn at the center in the trick of everything cutting his way to anyone to stupid or too small to find himself in his way. Why the greenest troops?
>>24534202>smallI mean slow.
So far Lyn hasn't really anything positive to report we never take his advice and he thinks are son has no business being a night. We should do something to please him.
>>24534241>>24534202>>24534181>>24534179>>24534178>>24534169>>24534164Unfortunately, Captain Bonaris disagrees. The Tyroshi mercenary captain that you hired to handle the training of the Woodsmen insists that you are his employer, rather than Ser Lyn. He shan't allow the knight to lead the Woodsmen; it's either you or him.Of course, the scenario's ultimately in your hands. Your neighbours watch and listen with relative interest as you resolve this internal conflict.
>>24534169>>24534164Sounds good to me - Ser Lyn can have command, I guess, as long as he still defers to us, and both Brock and ourselves will join him with the Woodsmen.Couldn't we do with leaving one of our men behind to ensure the safety of our family, though? I know it is harsh that they'd miss the battle, but they must surely know how much faith and trust we'd put in them by putting our family in their hands.
>>24534318I told you faggots, Lyn will be our bodyguard, in the thick of battle, but you kids wouldn't listen. Now the captain is all buttfrustrate.
>>24534318Oh, in that case, we're in command, Lyn is by Brock's side. Tough shit for him.
>>24534318The captain is in our employ and give charge of our unit to whoever we like. If he refuses to listen tell him to get fucked. Lyn can handle the troops for this battle and then we can find another captain later.
>>24534318Crap. Hmm. How about this: Lyn will accompany us as a bodyguard and shield for Brock. Naturally we'll throw him into the thick of the combat.
>>24534371How about fuck you. We need him. Lyn can go eat a dick.
>>24534318Ser Lyn will be accompanying us as a personal guard, then, as we lead the woodsmen. Allow Brock to accompany Ser Boros as Boros' guard.
>>24534318Explain to the captain that Ser lyn was or full confidence in this matter and he is far more experience in combat than us.
>>24534385why do you care so much for a mercenary captain? Of what value is he to us?
>>24534426That part of the infantry could decide to tell us to get stuffed, and leave? Never piss off the mercenaries you hire, since the best employers in the area are both our enemies (our brother and Belmore).>>24534341I entirely agree - Lyn will be bodyguard for us and Brock.
>>24534472We haven't got mercenaries, they're all regulars.
Never around to contribute, but just want to say I love these threads (only Quest thread I've read so far), so please keep it going. Please.
>>24534472We hired the Captains to teach I think. Most of the woodmen where hunters and trappers I could be wrong.
>>24534472they are our men raised by us. They are only led by a mercenary. He is expendable and I would rather get rid of him than piss Lyn off
>>24534508>>24534484>>24534504I thought some of the men were sellswords, as well as the trappers and hunters from our own lands.Still, the men trust their captain, and we could do without shaking them up by shifting things around just to make Ser Lyn happy, when he isn't even our sworn sword.
>>24534375>>24534371>>24534355>>24534341>>24534385>>24534388Quietly fuming, Ser Lyn gives into your final decision - you shall lead the Woodsmen and he shall accompany you as a guard, with ample opportunity to cut through the unwashed masses of the mountain men. He seems to be comfortable with at least.Quietly butting in at the end, Brock announces that he would like to join you and the honourable knight in the thick of battle.Now there's the matter of formation. Although you don't have a map, how would you like to arrange the units? You don't have a map (yet) so just offer a vague idea of how you'd like it all organised.Ser Morys suggests that the peasant levies are at the front with the Woodsmen to lead them, with the guerrillas and archers as support.Ser Tenry suggests that the guerrillas swing about to assault the mountain men from either side and perhaps cut off the retreat - although this would leave the rangers vulnerable to attack.Ser Boros suggests putting the peasant levies at the front while the infantry holds back to deal with the mystery archers - but this idea doesn't amuse Ser Crowlys at all.Ser Lyn agrees with Ser Morys, although his focus is on a straight-forward charge above anything else. Overwhelm the mountain men and cut them all down.
>>24534546>>24534508>>24534504>>24534484>>24534472The history of the Woodsmen:>A few weeks ago when you began to build a new fighting force, you bought a few mercenary captains at a generous price from your distant neighbour, Lord Palfrey Badics. These officers would train your men, but these soldiers would come from many backgrounds. Some are the disgruntled soldiers from Erenford to the West, who once worked for a riverlord no longer able to pay them. A handful of them are hedge knights and sell swords, eager to put their skills to use. But most of them are your own boys, native to Westpass. Hunters and trappers and even a handful of smugglers sick of being trodden on by hillfolk, they gladly accepted the training of the mercenary captains and began their transformation into a strong fighting force. No matter their background, they're all brothers in arms now, each one wearing a shirt of heavy mail and a set of boiled leather armour, each one carrying an arming sword and a hefty poleaxe. Led Captain Bonaris, these soldiers call themselves the Woodsmen.
>>24534548One guerrilla in one flank, another guerrilla in another flank, main flank with our archers and infantry. We bait them with our archers+infantry+Egen forces and then enclose their flanks with our guerrillas. I think that sounds reasonable.
>>24534548Go with Lyn's idea. It will ease his temper too.
>>24534548Agree with Lyn
>>24534548I have to agree with Ser Lyn if we can hit the mountain men before they can even organize themselves we will break them and turn the battle into a slaughterer in our favor.
>>24534548Charge we have about a hundred more people who are better equipped. Plus mountain men are more use to small skirmishes than an actual battle.
>>24534634Also we have more than enough scouts and rangers to screen the advance of the main force. Leave the mountain men blind and deaf to our advance and they will not stand a chance once the battle starts.
Lyn. But we must use flaming arrows, because shit's on fire yo. Plus it'll be more effective against leather armor than regular arrows.
>>24534696Yea but we could start a forest fire
>>24534709Which frees up farmland.
>>24534548We should use this formation - basically, following a mix of Morys' and Boros - the peasant militia hits first, with us and the other 2 militias filling the gaps, and the rangers encircling them, and the archers giving support before our charge.
>>24534634>>24534619>>24534681>>24534696>>24534709You decide to go with Ser Lyn's ideas. Keep the archers and rangers at the back as support, raining down arrows on the mountain men while the Woodsmen lead the charge of the mountain bastards.Confirm fire arrows?
>>24534729Archers are still green right? Why not put them in hold for now.
>>24534729No fire arrows
>>24534761We haven't got the numbers, we can't hold shit for christmas.
>>24534729First volley fire, then switch to quicker, regular arrows.
>>24534729If we catch them still in their huts, then yes, to cause panic. Otherwise, no, as they'll get more shots off without having to set them on fire.I still think the Rangers should flank them, though - give the impression that we're all around them, and then, after the initial charge, they hit the clan's flanks.>>24534761Nope, they're trained now, after their drilling and their participation in the fight at Wetrock.
>>24534729nope. I'm not really sure on everyone's fascination with them.
>>24534768I mean use regular arrows, not to hold the archer back.
>>24534729Why risk it it's not like where trying to burn down siege equipment or there homes. Regular arrows will do just fine.
>>24534770>>24534776Seconded, one volley of burnination.
>>24534797We are trying to burn their homes, though - we want to cause fear and panic amongst their children and women-folk as their world sets on fire around them, before the anvil of our flesh and steel falls upon them, utterly destroying them.
>>24534868it will most likely break their greener troops too.
>>24534903Unless they construct everything out of hay, the fire won't be large enough to do that before we charge.
>>24534728>dat imageLove it.
>>24534777>>24534776>>24534770>>24534768>>24534764>>24534761>>24534789You decide to hold back on the fire arrows for now.So, the general plan is as follows:>Arrive during the night, attack with the dawn.>Ser Tenry in charge of mountain rangers, Ser Boros in charge of wetland rangers, Ser Morys in charge of Harrock marksmen, Lord Artys in charge of the woodsmen and Ser Crowlys in charge of the militia.>Keep the archers behind the infantry, rangers effectively function as archers. Militia and infantry go on a direct charge to overwhelm the foe. The marksmen fire standard arrow on any enemies not engaged in the melee.Agreed? If so, we shall end the planning phase and make our preparations for the assault.
>>24534934It's go time.
>>24534922Cheers - just a shame it took me a minute or so too long for it to matter.
>>24534868Right but their homes are in a forest right. First a home catches then all the tinder on the ground then all the trees in the area. Then we have to retreat because a fire can double it's size in no time at all. If we were besieging a town yea but it's not like they're hiding behind a wall our infantry can't fight in fire better than theirs.
>>24534934I still think that the Rangers should be on our flanks, ready to move in to surround the raiders once we're in melee.Otherwise, sure, works for me.
>>24534934Let's do this.
>>24534992The flanking maneuvers are a great idea, +1 for this.
>>24534934We better not leave without giving our wife that bye-kiss.
>>24535017>>24534992>>24534989>>24534981>>24535003>>24535005The guests leave after their farewells. Lord Egen even leaves you with a showcat pelt, skinned from the very beast that Ser Tenry killed during your hunt with him. It's up to you what you want done with it - but that's something for a later date.A day passes and the scouts of Ser Crowlys examine the grove that the mountain men call their home, during the night. They were unspotted but at the same time, they caught no glimpse of the mysterious archers that attacked your rangers.Finally, the fateful night comes and you give your wife that passionate farewell kiss you thought so frequently about. There's actually a real thrill passing through your body and your mind as you go through with this. It will be your first true battle. You were always a bookworm, you barely ever left High Harrock before recently. The treachery of your brother has certainly called for some drastic measures.Waiting in the mountains with your men throughout the night, the time eventually comes for the assault. You slowly move your men into position - it seems like the savages have gotten soft, with only a handful of lookouts. You can see them but can they see you? Almost a thousand men, each armed with shining steel waiting for the rising sun? Surely someone has to see that.Roll 3d6. I'll accept the THIRD ROLL.
Rolled 1, 5, 6 = 12>>24535225Okay let's do this.
Rolled 6, 6, 2 = 14>>24535225
Rolled 3, 1, 2 = 6>>24535225
Rolled 3, 6, 3 = 12>>24535247
>>24535269The dice gods herped.
Rolled 5, 1, 3 = 9>>24535262>>24535265oh jesus
>>24535284Oh jesus indeed.>6>9WE'RE GONNA DIE SOMEONE CALL THE COPS.
Rolled 2, 4, 1 = 7>>24535265>>24535273>>24535276>>24535282well fuck
>>24535297OH GOD NO THOSE DICES STOP, STOP, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>24535297CUT IT OFFCUT IT OOOOOOFFFFFFFF
>>24535265Not quite the dawn surprise attack that you were hoping for. You hear a sudden scream from one of the lookouts as they point in the direction of one of the militia companies. Men and women in their dozens start to wail and shout throughout the camp as their soldiers spring to life. It's time to act, now or never. Wipe the bastards from your land and never see them again.This is the default map, along with the basic rules.I reserve the right to add new rules as I see fit, in case of cunts.
>>24535326And this is the starting formation that I arranged for you, based off of your suggestions.Due to the low light, your archers receive a -1D modifiers to their attack rolls.
>>24535339>>24535326Any suggestions or changes you wish to make, before you begin?
>>24535339Are our guerrillas hidden? or they're detected too?
>>24535324Not to derail the thread or anything, but what in the merciful fuck is that supposed to be?
>>24535339Time to make the best of a bad situation.I vote for archers and guerrillas firing at the foremost clan unit of veteran raiders whilst advancing our militia and infantry straight into theirs.
>>24535371Tenry's rangers (on the left) have not been spotted.Boros' rangers (on the right) have been.
>>24535414It's a portal to Hell.Really though, it's just a harmless chemical reaction. It's converting the form of the plastic tray by heat IIRC.
Rolled 4, 6, 3 = 13>>24535467seconded
>>24535467The chief is probably in that group. Focus fire on them with our archers.
>>24535339Move rangers into the woods, and fire arrows down at their archers/ranged people.Fire archers at the closest of their raiders.Advance the rest down on them.
>>24535471Okay, I'm cool with it, let's start. Already have my paint opened seeing their paths. I CAN SEE THE FUTURE!>>24535467I vote for Tenry's to keep hidden and moving towards their left flank.
>>24535554>>24535521I agree with these.
>>24535467Yes especially if there is a big difference between veteran and trained.
>>24535621Shit didn't mean to post that. Agreed except on the advancing part, let them move towards us one turn, the next one we strike.
>>24535521>>24535467>>24535518You try to pass the orders down - but unfortunately, this is the disadvantage of not leading everything by yourself! You cannot directly control the actions of the units you do not lead, only the infantry. You have to hope that the other commanders do their jobs properly.Allow me to do a lot of the rolling in private, so I don't clog up the quests. You have to wait in anticipation and see what happens. But when it comes to the infantry that you are in direct control of, you do want to move them forward yes?
>>24535636The longer we wait to engage the more time they have to ready themselves. We still have some element of surprise on our side and should use it.>>24535650yes, let's cut up some mountain fags
>>24535650Move our infantry 1 south and one east (from the maps perspective) and hope everyone stays in formation and the fucking archers shoot at the ranged unit.
>>24535677I saw the map, we have time to throw them at least 2 volleys, don't move the infantry yet.
While you urge the Woodsmen onwards, the archers and both of the ranger companies immediately open fire, aiming at the grizzled veterans that gradually begin their slog out of the woodlands. Unfortunately your prized archers miss and only the rangers manage to hit, Tenry's mountaineers doing the most damage of bunch. A handful of the savages slump while the rest move forward. As for the militia, they remain in formation and Ser Crowlys manages to keep them following you in perfect, precise order.The opposing slingers aim a volley at Tenry's men but fortunately miss their shot. However, you have moved just into range of the grizzled veterans.The savages with the looted weapons of great and grand proportions smash into the front of the Woodsmen only to almost bounce away, doing minimal damage against the castle-forged mail that they wear. However, the other raiders begin their march forward while the savage 'civilians' begin to pack their supplies.It's up to you what to do with the Woodsmen next. Would you like to retreat from this melee so that the archers can fire or would you rather attack? Do you shout any orders to your allies?
>>24535899And I forgot to include the archers in that - sorry for that error.
>>24535899Let the archers focus whatever, we hold the line. They can fire towards the other raiders and weaken them for sure.Start flanking manouvers with our peasants.
>>24535899Press on into the heart of them. The archers can aim at other units/harry the civilians.
>>24535899Charge for glorious combat. The achers and rangers can pick off what they want.
>>24535899try to have the Guerilla unit on the left move to harass the enemy peasants packing up
>>24535966We can only command the infantry unit directly. The others are in hand of the generals we assigned.
>>24535955>>24535949>>24535954All right. Roll to hit then! 3d6! You need to beat a target number of 7.I'll accept the SECOND ROLL.
Rolled 2, 3, 3 = 8>>24535985
Rolled 3, 6, 1 = 10>>24535985>Inb4 critical miss
>>24535899Hmm... we could attack, and allow the archers to attack the trained raiders, whilst the rangers fire on the slingers.Then we have the militia charge down the hill, one of them supporting us against the elite raiders, and the others going after the two other raiders.
Rolled 6, 1, 3 = 10>>24535985
>>24535996>>24536004Seems the dice have decided 10!Not too bad, really.
>>24536015Everything above success is good for us.
Hey guys, ausbro here. I have a lot of other stuff so I'll lurk and read later, but I won't be joining you guysMay the dice forever roll in your favourAlso, Plasma, as long as you want to keep doing GoT quest please keep going. This is amazing.
>>24536004Good job!Till the last ridge!
>>24536133>May the dice forever roll in your favourCheers man, we need all the help we can get!>Also, Plasma, as long as you want to keep doing GoT quest please keep going. This is amazing.I agree, this is one of the best quests I've had the pleasure to be part of.
>>24535996Ambition tastes the blood of one raider and then another as the poleaxes swing down on the savage bastards, with Brock beside you turning a one-eyed giant's face into a crater using a ball and chain and Ser Lyn cleanly beheading another. For a brief moment the savages waver before they respond in kind, hammers and axes tearing down a handful of your soldiers. Not wound as many of you as you wounded them though.Ser Morys and Ser Boros focus their bowmen on the inexperienced savages off to the side, with the marksmen causing them to scatter and the the rangers picking off the few survivors in a clean blow. Even Ser Tenry's men take down many a mountain man on their flank. Unfortunately, they suffer a nasty hit from the slingers, almost halving their numbers under a rain of deadly accurate stones.And Ser Crowlys moves his peasants in from the sides, letting the militia swarm in on the savages. Unfortunately only the well-armed ones seem to do any damage - farming tools just seem to break and splinter against the heavy hides that the raiders wear. Away from all of the combat, the civilians have finished their packing and are preparing to flee.You can choose to focus your attention on either the veteran or trained raiders or you could try to pull back - again, you can try to shout orders to your own men and see if they can take at all. Ser Tenry and his lot don't seem to be doing very well - apparently those slingers are talented shots.
>>24536243Let's still finish the raiders. And try to make the guerrillas focus those peasants NO MERCY!
>>24536243Keep fighting the veteran raiders
>>24536265the veteran raiders*
>>24536243Let's try to tell Ser Tenry to get away from the slingers, he's taking too many casualties from them. We ourselves need to finish off the veterans, the rest of our soldiers can take care of the rest. The civilians won't get far.
>>24536243Focus the guerrillas on the slingers, and the archers rain down arrows upon the retreating peasants. Have Tenry pull back, we can't afford to lose so many of our rangers - I only hope many of them are only injured, and not killed, as it'll be hard to replace those losses.Our infantry and the militia, we keep on at the raiders.
>>24536286>>24536265>>24536274>>24536279>>24536314>>24536322Roll 3d6.The first roll will be dedicated to attack the ugly veteran bastards before you.The second roll will be dedicated to trying to communicate your commands to the other units.
Rolled 5, 4, 2 = 11>>24536329Crossing fingers
Rolled 2, 1, 6 = 9>>24536329Nuffle, bless our dice!
>>24536346>>24536351Could be worse, to be honest!
>>24536346That's.....pretty good>>24536351That is also, but I think the DC is higher because we're shouting over a thousand men trying to kill each other
>>24536364So average that it hurts, but yeah.
>>24536378Better than rolling a 6 on 3d6, though!
>>24536394That's a fair point. The memories, it hurts!
>>24536329>>24536377We need to get some sort of runner or signal system(flags or musical instruments) set up for battles in the future.Oh, and good rolls chaps.
>>24536421That might be a decent plan - or have our maester come up with powders that burn different colours, as having flares could work too, in our night raids.
>>24536421>>24536457I support both of these ideas. The crazy things you think of in battle.
>>24536537It's only when you're in the midst of battle that you think "Wait a second, maybe we should have set up a system to actually give reliable orders in the middle of the battle".Funny that!
>>24536346>>24536351It doesn't take much encouragement - after a brief yell, Ser Tenry and his men pull away and shrink back into the wilderness, out of range of the slingers. It doesn't take much more effort to slaughter the veterans, just one last surge of pole-axes and the varied weapons of you, Brock and Lyn. Even as the last savages begin to fall, you can hear their leader screaming orders - only for Brock to drop his shield and smash his fist into the side of the man's head, cleanly knocking him out. Crouching beside him, the lad grabs a set of rope from his belt and begins to bind the unconscious mountain man once he's sure there's no one left to attack him.Unfortunately, the peasants guarding your flank have been obliterated by the raiders - but the loss of their leader has left them confused and uncertain, in the midst of your forces. Ser Crowlys yells for one portion of his forces to chase down the peasants and the slingers - who have also decided to flee - while his own company engage with the trained raiders. Ser Boros and Ser Morys have also given chase, trying to move into a more appropriate position to fire upon the foe.Do you wish to withdraw, give chase or focus on the last surviving group of raiders? Any last commands you wish to try and shout to the others?
>>24536675Hit those goddamn raiders. NO SURVIVORS
>>24536675Our infantry will destroy the raiders. The more mobile units will chase down the ones fleeing.
>>24536675Destroy the strongest raiders that remain. We lead men clad in heavy chain mail, we're not suited for chase. Now is our chance to completely break the mountain clan, kill off their strongest men.
>>24536675Obliterate the raiders, leave none alive. Make them rue the day they made enemies of the House of Harrock.Have Ser Lyn assist Brock in taking the chief to safety, perhaps back towards where Tenry went - he will be dragged back to High Harrock in chains, and not even given the dignity of a clean death. He will be made an example of.Have Morys and Boros give chase, and slaughter the peasants to the last.
>>24536740>>24536713>>24536705>>24536748>>24536754I really need to make a more stream-lined system - I need to be able to write this faster. It's difficult to make a big battle like this both mechanical and fast.But all right - one more hit to make it matter. Roll 3d6 for your attack! I'll take the second roll.
>>24536705>>24536740>>24536748This is the best course.
Rolled 4, 1, 1 = 6>>24536769
Rolled 1, 1, 6 = 8>>24536769Okay, let's see this.
Rolled 1, 6, 1 = 8>>24536769>>24536782Let's try this again.
>>24536675Also, fair-fucking-dues to Brock, he took out the chief single-handed and had the brains to capture the man, rather than beat him to death.I think he's learnt something, and he should be celebrated on our return home - he is finally becoming the son we deserve. If anything would make Egen give Brock his daughter's hand, taking the Milk Snake's chief captive single-handed should just about do it.
>>24536785>>24536785>>24536801ALL DOISE ONES
Rolled 5, 4, 1 = 10>>24536769Don't worry, it's worth the wait.
>>24536785>>24536782Goddamnit you fags and your snake eyes.
>>24536824It's the dice gods will, we shall abide by their rolls.
>>24536809It was reckless as fuck, but it paid off.
>>24536809>He's finally becoming the son we deserveNot even close baby.
>>24536809Egen only cares about fancy dresses and young boys, not war.
>>24536785>>24536801There's definitely a link between the time and the dice rolls - that's the third time we've had exactly the same dice results for all 3 dice be rolled when the rolls have been made within a few seconds of each other.I think that's why we keep getting low rolls, it's just the time we're doing it at that's fucking us.>>24536849And yet, that sums up so much of our plans - ballsy as hell, but the gods be with us.
Rolled 4, 3, 4 = 11>>24536809Agreed. It seems he's getting pretty good with the blunts as well. We really need to get our maester to get Brock some book learning, the boy will have a full schedule, but we really need to undo all those years of neglect.
>>24536876We are of house Hardcock, of course we are ballsy.
>>24536869It's a start - he has been trying his hardest to make us happy, so give him a little credit, at least.Plus, we don't know his stats - he might not be quite as bad as you think.
>>24536885>Brock>BooksOh jesus that's gonna be so bad is gonna be good.
>>24536869Don't orget that it's mostly our fault that he sucks so much.
>>24536930Well he still sucks, whoever fault it is I don't really wanna play as him anytime soon.
>>24536917Maybe if he hits them really hard against his head, all the knowledge and information will be forced in.We should use his strengths to offset his weaknesses, after all!
>>24536914Maybe he's losing weight because of his training.
>>24536961That was the plan - that he become more agile with his weapons, rather than relying on bulk.
>>24536914Plasma had posted his stats, but that pastebin seems to have disappeared.
>>24536945Or he'll just start grunting like a pig, go berserk and start brawling with a bookshelve.
>>24536785That's enough to secure a hit - barely. But not enough to eliminate the raiders. They're hardy bastards and they're focused on butchering the militia. Despite how well-armed they are, these peasants are no match for the ruthless mountain men who spend most of their lives raiding and their numbers are easily reduced to a third of what they were when the battle began. You even catch a glimpse of an ugly crone of a woman stunning Ser Crowlys with some sort of crude cudgel. You'll need to perform the killing blow on these savages, before they eliminate your ally.Many of the slingers are taken down with shots from Ser Boros and his men but it's not enough to take them down, especially as they begin to flee into the mountains and clamber through the rocks. If they escape into the Mountains of the Moon, the bastards will be impossible to find and the Milk Snake threat will likely begin anew, a few years from now, perhaps even a decade.
>>24536990I know he has a cunning 2 and unarmed combat II, not a single idea on the rest.
>>24537012Posting the map - the obvious course of action is attacking the raiders at this point. Roll 3d6 - you need to beat a target number of 6.I'll accept the first roll.
Rolled 3, 1, 6 = 10>>24537039OH PLS OH PLS PLS ROLL GOOD
Rolled 5, 6, 3 = 14>>24537039
>>24536944So we don't die until the boy gets some learnins.>>24536984I think that once we get one of the Manderly lads here it will be a positive experience for Brock, seeing someone else built like him who is successful might do wonders for his confidence.
>>24537054We don't die until he gets some manners. I don't care if he doesn't have knowledge as long as he's well mannered.
>>24537012Send the rangers and archers after them, we must destroy them now, pull the decay out by the root, lest it's corrupting influence remain.We need to push towards Ser Crowlys, we cannot let House Egen's military leader die. Slay the crone, and help him to his feet.>>24537054That'd definitely be good - he's been compared to his daughter and us for so long, no wonder he feels like a waste of skin.>>24537083Fair point - that is what our maester is for, after all.
>>24537083You mean knowledge of manners? One of the biggest parts of courtly education? Something we have neglected to help with for fifteen years.Regardless of how much he will struggle, the boy needs at least a basic understanding of stewardship. We are already planning on teaching our daughter this stuff, we can get them lessons together, it will (probably) be a good bonding experience.>>24537118Agreed, we need to save Ser Crowlys. And then get him to convince Egen to get some proper troops. We can loan him our captains, for a fee...
>>24536769Also, don't worry about it, Plasma - these big battles don't happen often, and that's just the nature of the beast. I'm not sure you could make a faster system if you tried.I can only suggest perhaps writing some bits like this ahead of time, if at all possible, to be edited to fit as needed.
>>24537243We were thinking on teaching our daughter because we thought that Brock was too dumb to learn stewardship.
>>24537252Also, it gives us a good time for discussion that doesn't detract from what's actually going on with the quest.
>>24537258He's only Cunning 2, and we were the same until a session or two ago - we've got plenty of time to change his ways.>>24537263Exactly, it lets us discuss what we plan to do, how to do it, etc - if we were always busy with replying to you, Plasma, you'd only have a long list of answers, no deeper discussion.
>>24537118>>24537083>>24537054>>24537051>>24537050And when the bitch leans in for the killing blow, she's disemboweled with a single sweep from Lady Forlorn, the Valyrian blade that Ser Lyn carries. You can deny that the man is a skilled swordsman, able to slice through whatever he wishes. A skilled and fine man, compared to the brute force and stupidity of your sun. Then again, who was the one that captured the leader of the clansmen?After this, the battle draws off to a close. The archers and rangers gradually pick off the slingers as they try to make their way up into the mountains, only for the civilians to be out of range when they turn their attention to them. The peasants try to give chase but stop at the foot of the mountain, each one knowing how foolish it would be to fight the hill tribes on their own terms - even if they're just the sick, the young, the wounded and the women. Nonetheless, Ser Boros and his men give chase to try and hunt them down while Ser Morys and his men return to your side to recover and re-cooperate. The battle has drawn to a close and victory is yours. You have your men ransack what little that was left behind, for any useful information or loot.YOU HAVE KILLED:>100~ Veteran Raiders>100~ Trained Raiders>100~ Green Raiders>100~ Green Slingers>50~ CiviliansYOUR CASUALTIES:>15~ Woodsmen>40~ Mountain RangersHOUSE EGEN'S CASUALTIES:>20~ Trained Militiamen>70~ Green MilitiamenYOU GAIN>3 Influence>7 Law>2 WealthNow that the battle's over, what do you wish to do? Some of the Milk Snakes have disappeared into the wilderness but so has Ser Boros to deal with them - he'll likely report back later in the day.
>>24537318Oh, my mistake. I meant:HOUSE EGEN'S CASUALTIES:>70~ Trained Militiamen>120~ Green Militiamen
>>24537286>Plenty of timeWell that's what you say. We can die any second now, this is Westeros pal, piss the wrong fella and you're dead.
>>24537318Search the bodies. Interrogate the leader. Hang any intact bodies from the trees, burn the rest. Execute any survivors.
>>24537318We retire to a command tent if we have one, if not just a gathering of officers. Let the men have a rest before marching back home. I think interrogations can wait until we are back in high Harrock
>>24537318Get our guerrillas to follow what remains, and head back to our castle I think.>>24537345I'd prefer to interrogate the faggot under our castle, that way we can have more time and more secure ways to extract info(aka: not kill him with the torture)
>>24537318Make sure Crowlys is OK. Break out some beer for the men. Possibly think about constructing some sort of small fortified ranger post nothing major, but a few heavy log cabins and a palisade would be a great staging point for any future anti-mountain clan expeditions, as well as denying them their prime base of operations.
>>24537318Have the men search the bodies and the huts, we want to get any information we can from this. Then put it all to the torch, burn it all, and let the crows have the corpses of the clansmen dead, hanging from the trees.We shall take the leader and his lieutenants (any that live) back to High Harrock in chains, where our men will have their way with them until they tell us all they know, and then they shall be hung from our tower, not even given the honour of a clean execution.This was a hard fought-for victory, my friends - though it might seem harsh, at least most of the losses were taken by Egen, but then that teaches them to only send peasants to do a soldier's job.
>>24537318We be rollin in dosh.Speak to our commanders, commend Brock in front of everyone for taking the chief captive. He did well.Thank Ser Lyn personally for his bravery but most of all his obedience. We knew we asked much of the dashing ser in taking command ourselves. The knight served us well. House Harrock does not forget their friends, even if said friends are retards.Search the encampment for clues about the mystery archers, take our dead and wounded home. See that the bodies of our fallen soldiers are returned to their homes for proper burial. They died in service of our house. We owe them that much.
>>24537456We be rolling in law, not so much in dosh.
>>24537482I AM THE LAW
>>24537456This as well, and also thank Ser Crowlys, as he and his men have paid a dear price for this victory.Our honoured dead deserve a proper burial, alongside their ancestors.>>24537497>pic related
>>24537399>>24537373>>24537371>>24537345The mood is a somber one. Many men are performing crude last rights for the men who died in the fighting and many others are drinking themselves into oblivion. Others busy themselves doing actual work, hanging the corpses from trees and torching the huts of the clansmen that once lived in the grove. Once everything has been looted and all of the dead and injured are ready to be carried off, you commend your men - including your son Brock for his achievements. He managed to subdue to their leader, even if he did it in a foolhardy and risky way. If he keeps that up, the sorry lad will get himself killed.Ser Crowlys and his men head back to to their own land with a dark silence ruling over them. Although he is thankful that his life was savaged, he regrets how many men died and that's clear on his face. Sorrow is written into his features as he goes. As for your method of hanging the dead from the trees, it gets quite a few uncertain murmurs from the men. It's a grim and unsettling sight, the entire glade filled with dangling carcasses. You gladly march out, leaving behind the ugly remenants of the battle.>For this crude and almost barbaric warning you've left behind, you gain 2 Law but -1 Influence, to represent a handful of rumours circulating about your cruel, strange ways.Returning home, Ser Morys and Ser Tenry comfort each other over several bottle of wine, doing their best to drink away the memories of the men that they lost. However, you have a prisoner to that. An elderly, stubble-covered clansman almost as broad as Brock and half a foot taller. Half of his face is swollen but it seems like he was injured before your boy landed the flow - he's got several missing fingers freshly sliced off and an arrowhead buried deep in his shoulder. Couldn't have been that difficult to subdue him after all.What would you like to ask him?
>>24537576In addition to this, you take as many of your own dead as you can identify back home for burials - Ser Crowlys takes along as many as his men can carry. Almost half of the force that he had brought alone has died, after all.
>>24537616Talk about his injuries, we wanna know where he got them.
>>24537616Could we send some men with Ser Crowlys to help tend to his dead and take them home? It feels like we owe him that.Let's ask the leader where he came from before his clan entered our lands and why they invaded.
>>24537616>For this crude and almost barbaric warning you've left behind, you gain 2 Law but -1 Influence, to represent a handful of rumours circulating about your cruel, strange ways.That's because House Egen knows nothing of how you deal with these mountain scum. If they had suffered the same hardships as us, they would be doing the same, and worse besides.>What would you like to ask him?Where did he get those injuries, and who gave them to him? Why has he been harrying us for so long, rather than moving to greener pastures? We know they are semi-nomadic, surely they would have moved to where they could get better loot, rather than staying in the mountains where the pickings are often scarce.
>>24537616First and foremost should be the mystery marksmen. We need to solve that shit fast.Secondly ask about any locations that the retreating clans folk would have gone to so that we can set our rangers on them.Also this is a good idea >>24537683
>>24537683Yes, send an honour-detail with him. Our infantry, who fought alongside them so hard. They are brothers-in-battle now, despite owing allegiance to different Houses.
>>24537707Let's start cutting extremities if he doesnt talk.
>>24537755We can do better than that. Start by taking out his nails and cutting one knuckle at a time, it'll take longer and lose less blood.
>>24537721Sounds like a good idea to me.
>>24537755Cutting bits off? That's as likely to kill him as get him to talk. He's a leader, he won't break that easily.Time to give him papercuts all over his body, then douse him in vinegar.
Ten bucks before we arrive home we encounter something horrible. This went too smoothly for my taste.
>>24537798A flayed man has no secrets.
>>24537683>>24537721You send off the Woodsmen to assist Ser Crowlys in carrying off his deceased for their burials. It's just the decent thing to do after all. The knight of House Egen offers little more than his thanks - then again, you doubt he's in the mood to say much after everything that he just lost. Then you settle down at High Harrock for the interrogation.>>24537660"Lost my eye to a shadowcat. Got the rest from you shits. Never seen a war-wound, boy?">>24537683"Came from further South. Too many other Clans on that side of the Mountains. Easy pickings around here... A little while, at least.">>24537695"You've made it easy. Few soldiers to run from, lots of prey to rob 'n kill. It was paradise here. Why wouldn't we stay?">>24537707"Fuck you. I don't know anything. Sounds to me like you've got a problem with other Andal shits. You ain't no better than us. And I ain't telling you fuck about where my people went."A mouthful of blood and phlegm is spat at your feet."You want to kill me, kill me. Get it done with. I ain't letting you end my clan that easy."
>>24537798Not even the Boltons are evil enough to subject their prisoners to paper cuts
>>24537826Have his toenails pulled out until he tells us where his clan fled.
>>24537826so you have chosen the hard way.Let the pain commence
>>24537826Let the guys have some fun with him before we ask him again.
>>24537826Hrm. He doesn't seem like he knows anything.Cut off a few of his toes to be sure.
>>24537828What happens beneath High Harrock, stays beneath High Harrock.>>24537853He will tell us before he dies. I'm fairly certain Boros and Tenry would like to speak to him also.
>>24537879>>24537875>>24537871>>24537860>>24537853A strangled scream comes from the clansman as he thrashes, almost managing to break free and grab one of the men you're using to torture him. A quick pummelling and he's easily restrained though - and more torture, more pain is applied."Fuck you and your castle, lordling. They went South. Don't know any more than that. We're free. Go where the wind blows. Can you say the same, Andal shit? Do you know what it's like to be liberated? You don't. Never will. Get it over with and kill me."
>>24537933The clan or the archers?
>>24537951I don't think he knows anything about the archers. I think he meant his own people.
>>24537951The Clan.He doesn't know anything about the archers, or so he says at least.
>>24537933"Kill you, hahaha! Oh I think not my barbarian friend, you'll be down here for years to come."Then leave the room.
>>24537933Heh, let's not kill him. keep the bastard in our dungeons for the rest of his days.
>>24537964Probably. Welp, looks like that's all we'll get out of him. Off with his head.
inb4 another huge debate over whether or not we should kill him our self.I say keep him in the dungeon to avoid it.
>>24537983Why? He didn't do anything particularly heinous or noteworthy. There's no point in locking him up.
>>24538024>>24538009>>24537990>>24537983>>24537974Putting the fool's ranting and raving behind you, you demand that he's kept in the deepest and darkest cell beneath the castle where you'll never have to see him again. And if there isn't a cell that deep, that one is made for the sorry clansman scum. He's dragged away kicking and flailing and screaming, almost breaking free of his captors' grasps several times - but nothing that a bit of blunt trauma to his skull doesn't prevent.Taking the opportunity to sit back and relax with nothing to bother or disturb you, you relax for a moment and let your muscles unwind after the battle. In fact, you dare say that you're exhausted. What do you want to do for the rest of the day? It's only the morning - after all, the attack started in the night.
>>24537983Nah, just hang him, and put his body in a gibbet, as an example to others on what we do with those who refuse to swear fealty to House Arryn of the Mountain and Vale.
>>24538065Go see our wife, that's the first thing. We're gonna fool around for the day, relax time.
>>24538065Spend the rest of the day talking to our men. Some must have lost friends in the battle, a few words here and there will show that we care.Have lunch and dinner with our family.
>>24538091This then our daughter and then have a council meeting with our son included.
defintely relax and see the wife, also tell Brock that he did alright
>>24538065Have a bath, and have the maester take a look at any wounds we have, and then have him check out the rest of our sworn swords. Then have a raven sent to Lord Egen, informing him of what has transpired. We'll need to make up the loss of so many of his men at some point, I have no doubt.Then we go to our wife, daughter and Brock, spend some time with them, before spending the rest of the day with the men, remembering those we have lost, and all those who we have saved, no longer having to live in fear of the Milk Snakes.
>>24538074We left an entire field of hanging corpses back at the tribes campsite, I think we've done enough hanging.This one might have more info that he'll be willing divulge after a few months in the cold darkness.
>>24538074We can always do this at a later time, or next time we go to war with clansmen we drag his emaciated, bedraggled pitiful shell along as a warning/demoralization.captcha: economical walkinnI guess we should take a look at our finances and start some sort of building project, maybe even an inn.
>>24538108This, then>>24538109This, then>>24538091This.
>>24538091Seconded also go tell are daughter extremely romanticized stories from the battle about her father and brother taking down the savage tribesman together. Also before we start getting into it with house Belmore release whats his name as long as he makes a new tribe and pesters them
>>24538137Fair point, and it means he doesn't even have the honour of joining his ancestors in whatever afterlife scum like him believe in.>>24538140> next time we go to war with clansmen we drag his emaciated, bedraggled pitiful shell along as a warning/demoralization.That's twisted, anon... I approve entirely. Seeing one of their own reduced to such a state could sow terror among their ranks.
>>24538168There's no point in lying to her. If she asks, tell her the truth. Otherwise, leave it be, our sweet daughter shouldn't hear such things.
I seriously wonder what the fuck are we going to do spending time with our men. Give them a permit or something, but don't spend the whole day with our men, we need some time for ourselves, and after this fucking victory we sure as hell deserve it.
>>24538168Nah he hates us more than the Belmores because we destroyed his clan and tortured him. I struggle to believe he wouldn't turn on us.
>>24538195I second this. We shouldn't shield her from the harsh realities of the world, but neither should we force them upon her if she doesn't ask.
>>24538195She's a kid goddamit, she shouldn't have to hear that crap until she's older.
"We will be cruel to the clansmen, and through our cruelty they will know who we are. And they will find the evidence of our cruelty in the disemboweled, dismembered, and disfigured bodies of their brothers we leave behind us. And the barbarian won't not be able to help themselves but to imagine the cruelty their brothers endured at our hands, and our boot heels, and the edge of our knives. And the barbarian will be sickened by us, and the barbarian will talk about us, and the barbarian will fear us. And when the barbarian closes their eyes at night and they're tortured by their subconscious for the evil they have done, it will be with thoughts of us they are tortured with.Sound good?"
>>24538065give the men the day off from training in celebration for their victory. they have the day to celebrate but the garrison should report back tomorrow for training. especially the green men.
>>24538177>That's twistedWhy, thank you.>>24538133I agree, we also should express regret at his losses but assure him that our men will be at his disposal as per the treaty agreement. If he learns to rely on us militarily that is just more leverage we have on him.
>>24538316I like you Anon...you are one crafty fucker.
>>24538263I like it
>>24538316Clever, anon, very clever. I like it.>>24538349>>24538350Cheers, I just thought it really fit the situation.So, is Aldo Raine Boros, or Tenry? He makes a decent looking ranger-knight.Also, I took the liberty to do the archive now, and I'll update it once we're done for the night too. If you could vote for it, and vote for any of the parts you haven't voted for previously, that'd be awesome.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=harrock
>>24538454I say Tenry.
>>24538159>>24538140>>24538137>>24538133>>24538120>>24538109>>24538108>>24538091>>24538168First of all, a bath. Then your men. Old man Morys is drunk out of his brain and Tenry is numbed by milk of the poppy - his kneecap was shattered by a shot from a slinger but according to him, he insisted that Maester Llelewyn would handle the rest of his men first - their injuries matter far more than his own. Many a death dirge and a sad ballad is sung, with few men good at singing. Victory isn't something to be celebrated in High Harrock; not unless it's perfect. Every loss is to be mourned, every mistake treated with regret. It's a place of sorrow and duty but the men drown that way of thought with alcohol and other things. Ser Boros eventually arrives as well, with several scalps dangling from his belt and a scowl on his face. He doesn't get all of them - many of the savages disappeared into the wilderness without a trace.Next, your children. You allow Brock the chance to drink with the other men and even a day off of his practice and training, for all of the good work that he's done. It's been a long and exhausting night and he deserves a break however short it is. The words between you are short and he's not as thankful as you like. Then again, you never were fond of over-enthusiasm. After a brief conversation you part and make your way to where your daughter is being taught by your wife, sharing the tales of your battle with the others. You make the event seem a little cleaner than what it really was - no need to describe what you did with the corpses, no need to tell Little Katrin about the hideous mountain man locked beneath the castle. Although you miss out some truths, you are certainly not to tell any lies. Children must learn everything eventually.
>>24538500As the day drags on, you eventually get a little bit of alone time with your wife. She insists on tending to your injuries; she has some training when it come to cleaning and patching wounds. Nothing compared to Maester Llelewn but still quite skilled. You share the truth with her and tell her everything and she thinks no less of you for it. Deyya is simply glad that you returned home safe and that you brought Brock with you. After sharing your affection with one another in privacy, you take the moment to reflect on the future. This is a milestone, of sorts. One of the greatest threats in your land has been eliminated. The Milk Snakes are gone, at least for now. There will still be the occasional bandit or mountain man but unless new savages move into your territory, Westpass shall be a safe place to live.What is there to do next, now that this mess has been said and done? What are your goals for the future and what plans do you want to lay out? The immediate threat has been eliminated but you still haven't earned wealth or true security for your family. What comes next?
>>24538493That was my thought - he fits that better than a more tanned man from the West.
>>24538454Thanks, again.And thanks for the archive, already voted.>>24538493Agreed. To me Boros is a little younger.
>>24538512Well, don't that other house have a port that we used to own? I say we should focus on building up our wealth and trying to (subtly) regain some of our lost territory. But keep up ranger patrols to track the Milk Snakes, watch for other clans, and try and find those damn archers.
>>24538512After this we should really work our lands a lot. We're probably in the shitter wealth-wise. Maybe start farming those lands we acquired in the previous thread.Long term? Preparing to press our claims.
>>24538512We need to secure economic security for our House, and for that, we need to build up our economic base - perhaps build another mine, or get another artisan to join us, or try to get territory near the river for us to build a port.Or we should try to show up Belmore, in order to claim their port off them.
>>24538512what's the status of our land's and production? where does our iron go? with the milk snakes gone it might be a good idea to start some trade routes, maybe a small trading fleet on the river
>>24538611We don't have a port at the moment to have a trade fleet at - we either need to spread our territory to the river and build one ourselves, or try to get Belmore's port off them, since it's really ours by right.How hard would it be to start to develop a town, or some more mines?
>>24538611>>24538600>>24538582Seconded. Weren't we trained as the steward? This should be right up our alley.
>>24538611I second these questions and the proposal to start farming our new lands. I think an overview of our House's finances ad options is needed.
>>24538512I feel like it would do us good to raise Sers Tenry and Morys as landed knights as thanks for their good service. Give them some lands (maybe based around Wetrock and Skycliff) to settle as permanent estates for harvesting crops and lumber. They'd be effectively our own minor bannermen. Without the Milk Snakes they'll be able to develop the land relatively peacefully and make a nice buffer zone for anyone invading our lands. This could also attract travelers to settle here, increasing our population, economy, and influence. It would also give our smallfolk a more stable place to live.
Next thread we should buy some goats for economic prosperity
>>24538670And after that cunning level up we should be able to get some juicy house-rolls.
>>24538512What's our current stats? We will eventually need to get a bit more of an economic machine rolling in order to elevate our house from its current dregs.Also, we should look into building our military even more. While costly in the short term, having a reliable and loyal force of warriors patrolling the western border is sure to win us points with The Eyrie, and we can let neighboring lords hire out our services to harry mountain clans and brigands wherever they are found-at a good price of course.I know we are getting a little scarce with space to house our soldiers, but I suggested earlier building a small outpost for our mountain rangers in the Milk Snake grove..>>24538316>>24538140>>24537054Guess I should start putting on a trip.
>>24538074Yes, hang; but hang him high where everyone who uses the pass can see him with the word raider hanging with him. We can make hanging our thing.
>>24538691And trip fail.
>>24538677Giving our loyal knights some land of their own seems like an excellent idea, though I'm not sure if Ser Tenry is really the 'lord' type. I think Ser Morys should be given the old Milk Snake land, it is virgin territory and ready for the advancing wave of civilization.
>>24538743BUt there are hanging bodies everywhere...
>>24538571Ah yes, Grimarbour. The island that sits squarely in the middle of the Westflow before it joins with the Virgin River to the North. It was stolen from your house due to the ineptitude of your grandfather, now belonging to House Belmore. You can press this claim through military might or through political clout; you're currently lacking in both. Eliminating a mountain clan and taking on one of the more prosperous noble houses in the Mountain and Vale are two entirely different things.>>24538611>>24538653You trade iron with the Egens, the Erenfords, the Terricks and the Freys, the last of whom get their resources from many sources in exchange for the vast amount of crops that their land produces. They're hardly the best deals - but when you made them, you weren't in a position to negotiate anything better.>>24538691>0 Defence>13 Influence>0 Land>21 Law>14 Population>1 Power>2 Wealth >>24538653>>24538611While you don't have your own port yet, you do have access to the Egen port. From there you can begin to hire your own merchants and trade goods as you like.>>24538677>>24538672>>24538670 So, now that the military issue has been confronted you wish to turn your attention to the economic issue, as well as the issue of your knights - some of them do deserve to be landed, after all.We will begin this next episode however. It'll be a brand new day, with the Milksnake mess behind you. With the aid of your uncle, you'll bring this house to glory.Thanks to everyone who participated! Come back on Friday, 9PM GMT! Feel free to continue to discuss options or ask questions.
>>24538743I think we should assess how much land we have before we start giving it away. while our loyal knights have earned a reward, granting them swathes of land is way too much, maybe their own farmstead for now, with the possibility of lordship in the years to come.
>>24538743I was thinking this would be an opportunity for Ser Tenry to recover from his injury while still contributing positively to our House.>>24538767That could be a colorful name for the place - Crow's Keepings. I don't like that it's so close to the mountains though.
We don't have enough resources to make banner-men. Next day invite the captains and make a toast and personally thank each and every single one of them.
>>24538811Actually, that should be 4 Wealth.
>>24538811Thanks Plasma, see you Friday.Everybody remember to vote >>24538454
>>24538653A Hamlet would be 10 land, a small town 20.Mines are 10 wealth, though if I can find Princely's pastebin there are a number of upgrades we can do to our own mine.Does anyone need the ASOIAF RPG book?
>>24538811Didn't we gain a land or two when we expanded into the meadow?
>>24538677That could be a good idea, as it'll make them fairly happy. What about Boros, though? And we kinda need the land too.>>24538811Cheers Plasma! Brilliant session as always!I would, then, suggest we renegotiate our iron trade agreements if possible, since we're now in a slightly better position.Otherwise, we need to get the money to build more farms or mines, so as to either decrease our outgoings, or increase what we can sell.Hiring some merchants might be good, if we can spread our iron further afield.>>24538825Crow's Keepings (with, if we build a tower there, Crow's Keep) works very well, I think.>>24538916Upgrading our mine might be worth it then.
>>24538965Claiming Northmarsh Fields gave you plenty of fertile farmland up in the North of your territory. However, you spent most of the benefits that you got from that on your military - so the small population and wealth boost that came with it didn't do much. Still, it's a piece of land you can offer to a knight - something for them to maintain and watch over.
>>24538984upgrade the mine and maybe hire a few smiths? if we can develop a good base of smiths we can have our own iron go straight into our own forges. it would help our military and if we develop enough of a reputation for forged goods we could and cut out the middleman and sell the finished product.
>>24539052Well, the smiths would be artisans with the appropriate specialty - if we had one that made all our weapons into castle-forged versions, that would help our forces, and if we got one with the specialty that increases the modifier for our House Fortune roll, I guess we could fluff that as being better quality iron/weapons being exported.
>>24538811Thanks for the excellent session and quest Plasma. You rock.>>24538984The upgrades were expensive as well but greatly boosted mine production if I remember correctly. I know House Bourdain became one of the biggest iron producers in the area.Making a banner house costs 20 Influence but I agree that it is something we should look to in the future.
>>24539128It depends - do we want to save our influence for making banner-houses, or save it to get Grimarbour through political dealings, or use it to get a second-born son at some point?
>>24539119sure, I have no idea how the mechanics work in this game.
So about how much time has passed in the quest thus far?Just like a month or so?
>>24539255A month and a half, I think, give or take a week.
Even if we do have a second son, I don't see any reason to get rid of Brock, quite the contrary really.Like wasn't our uncle blathering on about how House Harrock has traditionally been ruled by brothers or whatever?
>>24539200Ah, you guys were just talking about making them landed, not banner houses. My bad. I say we save it, it's one of our best stats.I still say we should look to hiring out some of our forces to some of the smaller houses around, gain a rep as mountain men hunters, get our troops experience, get some gold in our coffers.Win. Win. Win.If Plasma allows it, PrincelyDM's list of upgrades(used in Karban and Bourdain quests) can be found at: http://pastebin.com/46BLMQ3M
>>24539296Yep, that's how it's traditionally been done. Our idea was that, if we had a son, he would be the brains to Brock's brawn.>>24539298Hiring out our forces could work, but it'd take a while for us to get a decent amount of money, and there's no saying when the mysterious attackers will strike again.
>>24539447Even one or two wealth a month, when added to (hopefully positive) House Fortune outcomes would help vault our wealth up so that we can use it to buy upgrades and increase our other stats. It might also boost our influence in the region: House Harrock, Sword of The Eyrie, Guardians of the Wesmounts! Has a nice ring to it. We don't even need to use them all, one unit of trained rangers and infantry would be a significant addition to most of the less powerful houses-e.g. the pitiful state of House Egen military.captcha: flexesh redoubt Why yes we did flex our muscles and turn the westpass into a veritable redoubt.
>>24537318You should have had Lyn Corbray die, that way you can create a TIME PARADOX.