No, that is not a typo. Anyway, what's the progress on the prototype that one dude was making?
He left.So, did we figure out what system this is being done in?
>>24518895I like Warhammer 40K RP system.
>>24518920>>24518927So we still haven't decided 4e or Warhammer then...Personally, put me down for Warhammer vote
>>24518895Warhammer, but with the Stats and Statroll system from DND
We decided that whatever it is... no pointbuy
>>24518982I don't know, I'm thinking modified stats from Warhammer too, or every class having set stats depending on the class that scale up with level and by taking perks.
>>24519002No, we decided we'd tack a line at the bottom that said "You can do point buy, if you're a pussy. You get 46 points. No, it's not fair. Suck it."
4e Ultramodern very little retooling needs to be done the minon rules will be handy for trash mobs and despite it being 4E its alot more versatile when it come doing stuff outa combat and has fix some of the problem related to these areas
>>24519059Alright. Sounds good to me.
>>24519059>we decidedMeh, I thought that was kinda silly or at least the reason for it was, but its easy to disregard.
>>24518895We settled this shit like two threads ago.It's a mix of 4e Ultramodern of WHFRPThe stats are done Baldur's Gate style.Slag Harpy is a fun class.
>>24519471Isn't BG pretty much pointbuy?
>>24519482No.Also, the Soldier/Commando class is based on corporation loyalism. Each corporation's take on the class has a completely different skillset and playstyle.
>>24519508I imagine that the S&S Commando plays a lot like a Gunzerker.
>>24518976I've been writing up a bare-bones d4 system based loosely off of Shadowrun.
>>24519608That was a fun discussion.Also, some drawfaggotry would be well appreciated here.
if I could draw, I would do it, but I'd just disappoint you. Better for me to figure the crunch out.
>>24519726It's okay, anon.
>>24518895Well, I'm doing it in a heavily-modified version of West End D6. Currently up to about 7 pages of material, including a (simple) gun generation system. I'm still struggling with ways to differentiate them in a system where weapons really only have 3 stats (range, accuracy modifier, base damage), although I'm adding a DH-like rate-of-fire system which seems to offer some decent gameplay options. I did take the Corp-Soldier ideas and fucked with them a little, and I like Slag Harpies shifting into a slimegirl killmode as one of their "Hyper Mode" class options. Also, this is what a Vladof Claptrap looks like, only redder.
I know a couple drawfags, too, but I can't stand them.>>24519859I ended up mocking up a D4 system (d4 because it's the most hurty die) and it's going alright. It's based off of hits. I started it because I didn't really think I'd be a part of Whack Foo, but I've been contributing, too, so the projects will have to converge.
>>24519859>artist self-insertoh fuck no>wielding a VSSmah_niggah.jpg
>>24519938dammit she didn't even bother to keep the style intact
>>24520035>Off-model is deathWhat, are we /co/ now?
>>24520208Ies?What are you trying to say?
>>24520427I think he was trying to say lesbian Slag Harpies
>>24520427It's /co/ shit. Running gag where they type any "Y"s at the beginning of words as "I"
>>24520546That's not a /co/ thing, it's a /hsg/ thing.
>>24520564I didn't know we had that board.
>>24520569>he doesn't know about sub-boards!I bet you don't even know about /ak/ or /wak/ or /poyo/ or /agdg/
>>24520584None of those boards are /tg/ related
>>24520599are there any /tg/ related subboards?
>>24520615Not really.Not ones that last very long, at least.Wait, this has nothing to do with Whàck Foo.
>>24520584>/ak//k/ shit>/wak//co/ shit>/poyo//v/ shit>/agdg//vg/ shit
>>24520599/tg/ has /btg/
>>24520584I don't get it
>>24520654Thàt reminds me.The "à" in Whàck Foo: Àccented, or unàccented?
>>24520729I'm going to restate my opinion from the previous thread. Proper Bandity would have it accented all the time, but most of our target audience does not own French keyboards, so when they type it, it's going to end up unaccented. However, when it is written or spoken, it should always be accented.
>>24520729I thought we decided that it was going to be accented in-universe, and unaccented otherwise.
>>24520803So what you're saying isIn-Universe:>That Bandit is not properly harnessing his inner Whàck Foo. Kill him.Otherwise:>Sup, /tg/, I was going to run a homebrew Whack Foo campaign, but my players were faggets and said no. Discuss this.
>>24520729Why? Could some one explain this to me?I feel like this a reference I'm not getting.
>>24520861It's the title of the game you stupid cunt
>>24520861Whack Foo is what we decided to name our system, due to the inherent amounts of CUH-RAZEE
>>24520861We couldn't figure out a better name for it, so we just used that.
>>24520861Because the game takes place in the Wonderful World of Whàck Foo, where the dice are loaded and the points don't matter.
>>24520873No, why the fucking accent on the AWhack Foo looks clean and good while Wháck Foo is some pussy ass faggotry.
>>24520982Well, because Whàck Foo is how it's PRONOUNCED
>>24521061How would that be pronounced then? I was thinking Whack and is you whack something then Foo and in Kung
>>24520861>I feel like this a reference I'm not getting.Same, I just havent bothered to fight it since it has already attained GET IN THE BAG levels of memespam
>>24521142How is the title of our game a memespam?Is that just the buzzword you use to describe something you don't like?
>>24521339Didn't you know? Saying the title of a system is now memespam.D&D, Pathfinder, Shadowrun, Warhammer, Spelljammer, Savage Worlds, World of Darkness, IT'S ALL MEMESPAM NOW LOLO
>>24521371Yep. We can never say the title of a system ever again. People will just have to guess what system someone is talking about from context clues. But even then, they can't actually say it, because then they'll be a memespamming faggot, and that's no good.
>>24521339Whack Foo came out of nowhere and now when you ask for an explanation all you get is a bunch of people going >Hurr, WHACK FOOThats how.
>>24521142I think you need to leave.
>>24521428Maybe if you just looked into the fucking archived threads you'd understand.
>>24521428Oh fuck I had no idea that people as stupid as you actually existed.
>>24521450Not him, but I was in those threads and Whack Foo really did come out of left field. I dont much care for it as an official name, but its whatever.
>>24521453It was overreacting in response to overreacting.
>>24521474It may not have been THE BEST EVER ERMAGERD SO SUGOI name for the system, but some of the other name suggestions just weren't as good.
>>24521474Whack Foo rolled off the front of the face way easier than the other suggestions, so it stuck.
>>24521504Agreed. It's catchy.
>>24521524That's a bad thing. On /tg/, Catchy = HURR DURR MEMESPAM GB2LEDDIT
>>24521504Well, the only other suggestion was Guns, Loot, and Vaults.
>>24521548There was also Guns! Guns! Guns! and Vaults and Bandits.
>>24521142So, you're allowed to have 250 goddamn threads in the span of a week about your stupid loli wizard tank pilot mercenary half-fae catboygirl sentient toaster quest shit, but we can't have 5 threads in the span of a month about developing a new PnP system? Dude, you need to leave. I don't care where you go, but you can't stay here.
>>24521504Your game is named after that french tv show "wakfu" though.
>>24521536Seriously, quit being so goddamn touchy.
>>24521581This too. I am getting tired of the Wafku derails.
>>24521563>>24521548All of which were not quite as catchy or memorable as Whack Foo.Besides, Whack Foo is a bretty fucken appropriate name for a system taking place in such an inherently insane setting.
>>24521573Lookit all these assumptions! I like these threads and hate quests, but I just find all that Whack Foo shit obnoxious.
>>24521596>>24521581It's not though, I don't even know where you are getting this stupid notion. JUST STAHP
>>24521607Whack Foo has nothing to do with Borderlands, though. It conveys exactly nothing in the name and sounds like some kind of Ghetto Martial Arts game.
>>24521624Hey now, I just said I was getting tired of people making that mistake.
>>24521624Whack FooWakfuThat's where the notion comes from, see?
>>24521612>>24521596>>24521581>>24521474>>24521428>>24521142You gotta leave, man. We're trying to maintain a certain level of quality posting here, but we just can't do it with you shitting up the place. You are derailing the thread.
>>24521563>>24521548In honor of the intros, "Short Changed Heroes" or "No Rest (for the Wicked)" could be fun.
>>24521661On another note, if it weren't for these threads, I'd still think Wakfu was just a misspelling of waifu.
>>24521629>Ghetto Martial Arts gameThat's the feeling we were going for.
>>24521679Ooh, this I like. Or even No Heaven in honor of the credits song.
>>24521680>Wakfu just a misspelling of waifuIt is.
>>24521681...which isnt Borderlands. Like, in the slightest.
>>24521669I'm a different person then the first guy. And learn your place son, you can't really tell anyone to leave.Merely making a observation.
>>24521661One of these is a Ghetto Bandit Insanity Chi, and the other is French Sparkledust, see where the difference lies?
>>24521669>be only one of those posts>explicitly say that while Im not for the name, Im not particularly against either>GET OUT GET OUT GET OUTWhat the christ is wrong with you
>>24521719I think if a truly better name emerges, it'll be used. If you like, you can consider Whack Foo to be the working title rather than the final title.
>>24521696Alternatively- "Tentacles and Disappointment"
>>24521713But IT IS
>>24521744Well now that just sounds like anticlimatic hentai.
Gun Run Fun: The Run & Gun, Fun Gun Run
>>24521740He's either a child or has anger management issues. Just look at his posts.>>24521669>>24521607>>24521573Dude has a chip on his shoulder.
>>24521745No, Borderlands is about GUNS, LOOT and DOSH. Melee is utterly secondary and in no way artistic.
>>24521741I think this is where people are getting tripped up. Fags are raging because they think we're trying to actively push Whack Foo as the END ALL BE ALL NO SUBSTITUTIONS title for the game, but they don't realize that we're only using it because we haven't come up with anything better yet. It's already a working title. That's all it's EVER been.
>>24521781Bandit Psychos will be playable, so there is that. And it's not about the martial arts themselves so much as the similarities between Borderlands and 80's kung-fu movies.
>>24521781>Melee is utterly secondaryAs a Brick main, I find that incredibly offensive.
>>24521767I like this but I don't think it'll work on the cover.
>>24521809Or even a Salvador or Zero main. Melee was actually a bretty fucken serious primary depending on your class and build
>>24521809>>24521839Well, obviously you're not playing the game how I want it to be played, so you're wrong. Melee is for stupid poopdicks and anyone who disagrees with me is a stupid poopdick.
>>24521869Brick and Zer0 both had entire skill trees dedicated to melee, so it kinda was the way the game was meant to be played. Stupid poopdick.
>Thread 4 takes almost a week to finally reach 300 posts, and the posts are all generally constructive and help to further the progress of the game to some degree>Thread 5 hits 100 posts in only 3 hours, a vast majority of it is shitpost wars because of what was being used as the working title for the game, no actual progress on the game has been achieved in this threadWhy, /tg/, why must you always hurt the things you love?
>>24521918Keep in mind that this thread started right about the time that British kids are starting to wake up.
>>24521918I agree. Let's actually get some fucking work done instead of bitching over a title that was decided FIVE FUCKING THREADS AGO
>>24521918It's okay, man. The three hours were not during the times when the work had been getting done before, so really it's just idle chatter.
>>24521980Five MOTHERFUCKING threads ago indeed. These anti-Whack Foo faggots had their chance, but they blew it.
Next on the agenda: We have Commando (or whatever it's going to be called), we have Slag Harpies, what other classes do we need? Midgets? Snipers? 'Roided up crazies?
>>24521772How do you know that all of those posts are by the same person? Can you see IPs?
>>24522007Anything and everything, anon. We want as much diversity as we can get.
>>24522000>>24521980and again, it's not like the title can never change again, it's just that we haven't heard anything that's even remotely worthy of replacing it.>>24522007I don't think Midget is really something that can be a class. A quality like in Shadowrun, maybe, but it wouldn't have enough to do with the playstyle to be a class.
>>24522011Obviously he's going to say No, you dumbass, you know that Mods and Janitors cannot reveal that they are Mods or Janitors.
>>24522053If he's a Mod/Jan, why doesn't he just... y'know...delete the posts
>>24522067Because that would make him a cunt.
>>24522042I kinda like Shadowrun's qualities system. It only works with that chargen system, though. Shadowrun is great for character versatility, though, since it doesn't have classes or any of that. The issue with porting that to Borderlands is that BL would have to have classes or the character progression couldn't possibly work. How could we get the good out of both without fucking it up?
>>24522083Elaborate. Put that degree in psychology to work, motherfucker, let's see you explain your thought process on this one.Oh wait you can't
>>24522134Doesn't really actually matter whether it was one douchebag or multiple douchebags. Let's get some shit done.
>>24522083I think the anti-quest guy, the "bretty fucken X" guy, and the "You need to leave" guy are different people. Actually, I think each of those personalities have made multiple posts in this thread.
>>24522034>>24522007Do we want lotsa classes, or just 4 basics that have "Sub-Classes" in the forms of skill trees?So the Commando class would have different skilltrees like Engineer, Artillery, Tactician, Company-Specific branches, etcMeanwhile the Brick/Salvador base class would likely branch out into, for example, Psychos, Beast Riders, Banditsmiths, Gun Fetishists, and so onSo we'd end up having a split betweenCareer Warriors- Roland, AxtonIndependent Masters- Zer0, MordecaiPandoran Native/Similar Uncivilized Badass- Brick, Salvador, (Gaige?)Slag Harpies- Everyone know what these are by now I hope
>>24522134>>24522150>These posts make YOU the douche bags.Especially this one (>>24522134). My fucking sides. Tell 'em why you mad son.
>>24522199Those (non slag harpy) names suck I know, but I'm trying to capture the feel the classes had without pigeonholing them, y'know?
>>24521809As a fellow Brick main, surely you noticed how we had jack shit in the way of phat lewts. I loved my Zerking, but the name of the game is still guns, guns, and more guns.
>>24522175Yep, some fuckers gotta learn to compile psychological profiles of posters, it helps sort out who's who.>>24521339>>24521424>>24521466>>24521536>>24521573This is the superdefensive backlash guy, I THINK. There might actually be two of these guys, I'll look into it a little deeper.>>24521607>>24521839This is the "bretty fucken" guy>>24521434>>24521573>>24521669This is the "you gotta leave" guy.
>>24522203>We're all douchebags here, Alice. I'm a douchebag. You're a douchebag.>>24522199I like that idea, but dividing them up that way is a little odd. It'd be better crunch-wise to do it based on how the characters tend to play. The Commando class pretty much has a turret (there could be an option for no turret, but I don't know how that would be done), and that effects the gameplay style, and Maya/Lilith's phase powers did the same in the game. What roles do we need to fill in combat? Each class doesn't need to fill that role, but instead needs to be able to fill that role, which will give the classes more versatility.
>>24522203>HURR HURR U MAD U MAD BRO U MAD GET REKT KID SOULJA BOI TELL EM/v/, please leave. You are not assisting the progress of the game in any way whatsoever, so just get the fuck out.
>>24522251ProfessionalsNomadsSavages (Gaige is actually a refugee running from her home planet where Deathrap accidentally killed that dumb thieving bitch Becky, by the way)Slag Harpies oh fuck I cannot stop screamingNot necessarily better, but just throwing it out there.
>>24522309Tell that to our resident psychologist over here.>>24522271I think he's typing more on the topic then I.
>>24522308Well, let's see what we can do with the basic 9 archetypes for classes. Offense, Defense, and Support, with Close, Medium, and Long range variants of each
>>24522319I don't think we can use nomads, because that conjures up the Bandit-Type enemyI want to say Loner but that just sounds 2edgy
>>24522358Drifter might work.
>>24522333I think that breaks down pretty fast in the Defense and Support concepts- they don't seem to work with regards to range.
>>24522328>>24522309I would prefer if instead of arguing over who's shitposting more, you would just stop shitposting altogether.>>24522333This is a decent start, although perhaps closer to a DnD alignment scale for shooting things than a true class system. A sniper can act as LR defense or support, for example, without stretching the imagination much at all. I don't really know how to stretch it, since DnD classes are fairly rigid, while Borderlands classes are definitely not. I think it should be a similar deal, just instead of building the skills around one person, it builds them around a type of character.
>>24522358Regardless, he needs a midget wrangling skill.
>>24522333Close Offense is BERZERK MODE PUNCH PEOPLE UNTIL THEY DIE, also Zero's melee treeMedium Offense is bretty much what Axton, Salvador, and Gaige wereLong Offense was Zero's sniping tree all the timeClose Defense was like the Crimson Lance riotshield soldiers from the first game is what I'm thinking, also Salvador to an extent because of massive health and shield buffs for full meatshield modeMedium Defense is fuck i dunnoLong Defense is shit i dunno eitherClose Support is Sirens, which are now SLAG 'ARPIES in Whack Foo due to fluff issues, also Zero's stealth tree to an extentMedium Support is bretty much what Roland was, healing and ammo turret all day erry dayLong Support is bretty much what Mordecai was, dat sniping and dem bird
>>24522394Eh, once again Gearbox has beat us to the punch with their naming schemes.Stupid giant bug monsters...
>>24522007Three current class types:Pet - spawns/'structs/summons a pet to aid them in combat. Big Boom - one-shot, high power effects, like Phaselock, and effects that end/are consumed after enhancing one action, like Decepti0n and Phasing.Hyper Mode (Berserking) - Character enters a special mode - Berserk, Gunzerk - which allows them to continuously do Very Bad Things to others for a while. All the types overlap at higher sections of the skill trees: Pet may unlock a hyper-mode effect (Bottom half of Axton's Gunpowder tree, Mordecai's pickpockety-thing with Bloodwing, some of Gaige's abilities) or a Big Boom effect (Axton's pocket nuke, most of Gaige's abilities)>TrooperFormer Corporate military "pet class", who retains tools and skills from their previous training>Slag HarpyThe one-in-a-million girl who actually DOES get Slag powers by snorting 'Rid. And marker fumes, pure ethanol, whatever's there and purple. (Fluff aside: Someone proposed Eridium-contaminated markers giving temporary Slag abilities when you draw patterns on your skin with them.. only to, you know, give you all of the cancers and Excess Limb Syndrome. I like this idea.)>MIDGET GO BEWMBig Boom class. Midget, with a glider at higher levels and truly vast quantities of explosives. Hyper mode does enormous damage and puts you in FFYL immediately. >Hunter/Sniper/Assassin classCurrently up in the air. >ZerkersCurrently up in the airAlso,>ClaptrapAnnoying, midgety, flavored by parent corp. Secret society survives on Pandora by hiding in a house made of dead Claptraps, lives out Odd-couple relationship.
>>24522445Gearbox knows the world they were making, that much is certain. And just because a bug is named it doesnt mean it cant be used. Besides, the best system for this needs to have both a class and three or so subclasses for you to spec tree into like >>24522461 pointed out. Slag Harpies can Summon, Big Boom, and Hyper, but whichever action skill they choose determines what kind of support they act as.
>>24522461>Fluff aside: Someone proposed Eridium-contaminated markers giving temporary Slag abilities when you draw patterns on your skin with them.. only to, you know, give you all of the cancers and Excess Limb Syndrome. I like this idea.I agree with the argument against this when it was proposed: The marker thing shouldn't go any farther than a short description in the fluff. Anything else is reaching too far for it.Regardless, a temporary slag power with a price could be a decent mechanic if done well.
>>24522497Don't some bandits ingest slag?
>>24522461The class abilities in Borderlands were based off of a powerful ability that lasts a short time. Bloodwing, 'Zerking, Phaseshit, and the like were all examples of this. If the classes are built primarily around their abilities rather than their styles or the ideas behind them, it would hold a closer bond to the games. >>24522525Zed pulled an eridium rock out of one in a BL2 mission, but he said that it wouldn't do shit. Other than that, I don't know.
>>24522525Quite a few of them. One of your first missions is cutting a chunk of it out of someone. What worries me about the idea is that you never, ever see what Hyperion made with the initial human Slag experiments. Considering those made the Super Badass elemental beasties, not to mention what they did to Boodwing.. Let's just say I think a Hyperion Berserker would be horrifying in the extreme
>>24522597Human's probably tanked, mental degradation. Animals maybe took to it better, just get mean and even more feral if such a thing were possible with skags.
>>24522597Also, Scooter references a "snort-happy Rid-head on a Slag binge" in the Happy Pig Motel mission. It's gotta do something to your head. >>24522497The reason I like the marker thing is the bandits bringing in markered-up chicks to Jack, claiming they were sirens. If the markers really ARE giving them powers, even if it's short-lived, it'd tie in amusingly. Alternately, the Harpies paint the Siren tattoos on themselves to imitate them, and that's where the fumes are coming from - which also works.
>>24522597>what Hyperion made with the initial human Slag experimentsWhat about the Lab Rats
>>24522548We've basically already decided to keep a turret as one of these abilities, and I assume that Slag Harpies will end up working the same way, so what remains are a couple more classes based around abilities. A beserker class or six is necessary.
>>24522461I'm gonna try combining this with some other stuffTrooper Pet- Turret, we know how this goesTrooper Big Boom- I'm thinking artillery style grenades, mortar fire, airstrikesTrooper Hypermode-Possibly a "Teamwork" buff defined as tactical genius? Stand together for defense, spread out for, uh accuracy... Possibly just simple stuff like ammo regen, reload buffs, and what have youProfessional Lone Nomadic Drifter Pet- I'm thinking Pet acts as Support- it'll distract enemies allowing someone else to backstab them, or it'll watch your back, bring you health, intel on position, etcPLND Big Boom- Damage spikes with preferred weapon- could be melee, could be a sniper. PLND Hypermode- The Zone- Enters a Zen State of perfect Killing. Basically a TON of "Buff Upon Kill" that allow snowballing that collapses after X misses, too much time reloading/taking cover, etc.Savage Pet- Beast riding, Deathrap-style bot.... possibly good space for a Vehicle-classSavage Big Boom- Not sure how to make this unique....Savage Hypermode- Through sheer masochistic perversity, illicit combat drugs, or sheer HATRED, all sorts of buffs are possible. Brick-style berserking, psuedo invulnerability, shield hypermode, dual wielding, etcSlag Harpy Whatevers: We did this already, right?
How to troll /tg/:Say "Whack Foo" in any thread ever.
>>24522705I like The Zone. Perhaps a class titled "Hunter" which gives this as its core ability. Does anyone remember the high-level ability in Zer0's sniper tree that allowed for damage to stack based on an on-kill buff? I feel like that could be the base for this, except not gimped all to hell.
>>24522705>Tamer (shit working title):>Ability: Release AnimalReleases your hawk, skag, Thresher, midget, or whatever else you happen to have tamed and ready to attack at a moment's notice. Beware, though, you'll have to fight it in a future game!EXPLOSIIIIIIVE!>Class: The Rider>Ability:MountGet on top of whatever giant thing you happen to have tamed, be it a big-ass skag, a robot, or whatever. Midgets have a way better selection when it comes to mounts, bigger characters have a smaller one.
>>24522525Hans from BL1 looks so malformed due to eridium radiation.
>>24522886Naw, I think all characters should be able to ride all mounts>You won't know true pain until you've fought a Bruiser riding on a Midget's shoulders
>>24522705>Trooper HypermodeI am thinking some sort of tacticool digistructed power armor like what the Hyperion Engineers had
>>24522943Remember these bad boys?Awwww yea
>>24522934>*Badass Goliath Midget,
>>24521696>>24521679How about, 'Wicked Heaven Heroes'?
>>24525602Or "Wicked Hero's Heaven"
>>24525602>>24526610Either way its WHH
>>24525602>>24526547>>24526610>>24526738I like it. That acronym could use a better connottaion anyway.
>>24526752Might get confused with WH for Warhammer but overall I like Wicked Hero's Heaven
>>24518895warhammer but only so far as wargame table top.prefer something like infinity or even warmahordes.would also make more sense considering the context and setting of borderlands. not massive armies but rather squads / small rebel caches, etc...
>>24526817Warhammer RPG system not tabletop ya putz
>>24526784>>24526738>>24526610>>24525602Not sure about it.
>>24525602>>24526610I liked Short Changed Heroes better, personally. And there is the minor issue of Warhammer High folks thinking the thread is for them the same way Whack Foo/Wafku kept happening.
>>24526949SCHCould be good.
>>24526949Exactly. Bitches gonna bitch.
>>24526817That's not the Warhammer we're talking about you git.
>>24527045That could actually be the new working title.Bitches Gonna Bitch: 1st Edition
>>24527117And it works because no matter what the title is, there will always be a bitch that will bitch about it, so the title might as well allude to the inevitable bitch shit regarding the title. It's bretty deep meta.
>>24526817> Thread about pen and paper> brings up tabletop gamesPeople these days.THEY SHOULD BE EXPLODING
>>24527223I thought Macho Man Randy Savage was dead.
>>24527264He lives on in spirit as Mr.Torgue
>>24527264He is now BADASSMOTHERFUCKERTORGUE
>>24526949Shucks, Chuck, don't be a drag! I thought you were a COOL POPPA, but I guess you're just an ANUS!
>>24526949That's part of the reason I like it. Soft trolling, and a good name. WHH should stand for something good. It should stand for WICKED HEAVAN HEROES/WICKED HERO'S HEAVEN.WHICHEVER!
>>24528620 I like thisSeconded
>>24528620>>24529567So will it just be both of them?
>>24528620I don't really know about those names. I think SCH is fine.
>>24534762Fuck off, faggot.
>>24534738SCH is terrible. It's a song name, that's it. WHH takes one bit from each, making something unique that sounds halfway decent.
>>24528620>>24526949>>24526752And I thought the whh guys were exaggerating the extent of their haters.Short Changed Heroes it is. It works, it's not already taken, and you guys will have nothing to troll about.To 1d4chan!
>>24536277>>24526949 hereI was just saying it would be best to avoid that can o worms all together.
>>24536323I love it. It works perfectly.
>>24536204No, WHH is hurr edgy snowflake shit
>>24536788You're a nigger
>>24536834Suck my whick
>>24536277>To 1d4chan!WHATDON'T YOU DARE PUT THIS ON THERE YOU SON OF A BITCHIT'S NOT EVEN FINISHED
>>24536277I oppose this, not only because you're acting like a cunt, or for the reason that either WHH sounds better, but because that is actually a song title. Besides being gay as hell to ripoff, it's probably illegal.
>>24536752Calm down, young'un.
>>24536949It would be illegal if we claimed credit for the song or collected money.
>>24536949The actual song title is Short Change Hero, not Short Changed Heroes. Or we could even switch it to Short Changed Hunters for that extra buffer between homage and copyright infringement. Besides, its not like we are looking to profit from this.
>>24536999My lesser reasonings stand.
>>24537049You're an infant.
>>24537095Well, that is not witty at all. Nor is it true.
So....how's the BL PnP going? I'm doing a total tl;dr so someone just give me the gist of what you've made/drafted/brainstormed so far.
>>24537340Faggots are now in full BITCH-ABOUT-THE-TITLE-ALL-DAY mode. Because of this, no actual work has been done so far.
>>24537393Because so much actual work got done in the last thread.
>>24537493I am a little Green when it comes to posting pics in place of words - but it also described my facial features when I saw the last few posts.
>>24537574That's crazy talk. Stop talking crazy.
>>24537493Its no worse than the crying about point buy. I dont know why these threads have attracted such dedicated whiners and shitposters, but they have.
>>24537587It's called /v/
>>24537587It isn't our fault that those autistic faggots want to name it 'WHH'.
>>24537630Yeah, but they weren't around during previous attempts at a Borderlands game.
>>24537632Why not just call it "Borderlands the Roleplaying Game" or even use the title of this thread>BroderlandsIm sort of glad I forgot about the thread when it was started.
>>24537708As I recall those just ran out of steam trying to make a bazillion tables for gun generation. This is the first attempt that's turned into shitflinging.
>>24537340>So....how's the BL PnP going? I'm doing a total tl;dr so someone just give me the gist of what you've made/drafted/brainstormed so far.System: West End Games d6Stats: MEATY (Strength; has a “con”-like function in this system)GREESY (Perception. Covers Leadership and Charisma functions in this system, among others)SHOOTY (New Attribute, covers only ranged weapons and gun-related Technical skills)BANDITY (conflates Mechanical and Technical – ability to fix things, ride things, etc. Also covers artillery, vehicle-mounted weapons)SPEEDY (Dexterity, sans the ranged-weapon skills)CUNNING (Knowledge)(Special Attribute) SLAG (covers your use of Slag Powers, can be substituted for MEAT in melee)Allocate out 18d6 among the attributes. You may give up one or more d6 to get “bonuses” - 3 permanent +1 bonuses, split out as you choose. If at any time a stat ends up with +3, add another d6 and cancel all bonuses. The limit on any one stat is normally 5d6, and the minimum is 2d6.Starting characters also gain 8d6 to spend on Skills (not to be confused with Quirks or Action Skills). I swear it'll make sense when I finish the character sheet.
>>24537902The system is a target-number based thing, basically a hybrid of OWoD and D20. Anyway.. Cash: Personal wealth is measured in “Guns”, not dollars: a “Gun” is the amount of cash given by selling one gun to Marcus. Buying a gun takes 5-10x its resale value.“Guns” are measured as follows:50W=1G, 20G=1B, 10B=1POrange, Cursed, Seraph and Pearlescent guns are unique treasures, and the return for selling them will be determined on a case-by-case basis. Note also that Blue and Purple guns will not usually be available for sale in Marcus Machines – he's a greedy murdering sonovabitch. The “Greenie” is the standard measure of wealth on Pandora.
>>24537722I do like Broderlands. But I'm probably biased because I came up with it. Regardless, Borderlands RPG would work fine.As for the procedurally-generated gun's, I've seen two solutions that might work. The first is to nix stat generation altogether, and give each weapon rigidly defined stats. (Possibly affected by rarity, but that could be nixed as well.) The second option is to only stat guns that players WANT to stat. Hell, it might be a good option to combine these two. Should help the GMs.So, let's see what would happen at the end of combat.GM: "OK, you killed five bandits, two nomads, and a midget. you get *** XP, and six guns.">GM rollsGM: "Four whites, two greens, and a purple."Player: Fukken' sweet. It's been a while since I got a good gun, let's see what that purple is.">GM rollsGM: "It's a (Maliwan) (SMG) (Presence)."Player: "Awesome."
>>24537927Health levels:Shield damaged – 1 level per Shield die. Some Shield abilities don't work when damaged, most don't work when it's depleted. Each level of Shield Damaged removes 1 shield die. Note that effects like stunning are ignored until the shield is down, and that fire/corrosion effects halve their strength against shields.Shield down – no penalties. Shield dice and abilities are generally ignored from here down. Grazed – no penalties. “Tank” classes and Quirks may add several levels of Grazed to a character.Stunned: character is locked in place for a round. Only >very< rare effects do this, mostly getting hit by a vehicle/vehicle-grade weapons.Wounded – light dice roll penaltiesBeat Down – dice roll penalties, slowed.Fight for Your Life – severe dice roll penalties, can only move minimum distance. Character “dies” as normal. (bleed out after several rounds). No Shield or other Health regen. Another character can spend two full Rounds reviving the sufferer, who will come back Beat Down with full Shields.
>>24537980Shield types:Adaptive – cuts dice of “tuned” damage type, adds Grazed levels based on rating. Retuning takes 1 full Round.Amp – adds dice to attack when full, but strips that number of wound levels from the shield on the first shot.Booster – when a triple is rolled on a shielded roll, ignore one level of damageNova – at the beginning of the Round after a Shield Down result, performs a range 10 attack with a set number of elemental dice. Spike – attacks back with a set number of Elemental dice when hit.Turtle Shield – adds shield damage levels, subtracts half that from your healthShield Speeds: Quick-charge (gain 1 wound level per round hit only once, or full charge rating every round not-hit)Normal (gain charge rating every round not-hit)Slow-ass (gain charge rating after 2+ rounds not-hit)
>>24537992Gun traits:Guns start at +0 accuracy, neither helping nor hindering the SHOOTY roll. Skills adjust the roll, of course. Pistol Damage starts at 3D, Revolvers and ARs* at 4D, SMGs* and Carbines at 5D, Snipers at 6D, Rockets at 10D*Yeah, I know. Have you looked at the source material though? [/rant]• Atlas – Rare, but average in every respect.• Bandit – Greesy penalty for carrying openly. Big mags. RL: cut damage by several dice, Burst 3 for one ammo. No “normal” Elementals, only E-Tech.• Dahl – on Aim action, Bursts at +1d to hit. Pistols gain SA rating like Jakobs, but lower. Only subguns and ARs can be FA. •Hyperion – -1D or more Accuracy, Gain 1D accuracy per round spent continuously firing, up to the initial penalty. Above-average chance to be Elemental or E-tech.
>>24538019• Jakobs – Can fire up to Semi-Auto rating, losing 1d to-hit every time. High damage bonuses. Cannot Burst. Penalty to-hit unless MEATY is high enough. No chance to be Elemental. Because Elemental is for pussies who can't handle BULLETS.• Maliwan – Always Elemental. Bonus Greesy if prominently displayed. Boosted chance to hit with an Elemental effect. No Damage Penalty to Elemental weapons.• Tediore – Instead of Reload action, MUST take “throw grenade” action. 1D of bonus damage per round of ammo in gun. Can only “Reload” if at least one shot/burst has been fired. RL: make an immediate followup RL attack at -2D when the ammo is exhausted. • Torgue – heavy ACC penalties (those fucking gyrogets), all weapons are Explosive and also AWESOME. Damage is boosted unpredictably, may have AoE effects as well.• Vladof – Pistols: lower accuracy, boost RoF by one for each “plus” lost. AR: increase Burst rating by 1 per round spent firing. RL : ignore ammo expenditure on triples to-hit, Burst ratings.
>>24537957>Maliwan>PresenceDon't mean to bitch or anything, but Presence is actually the name for Hyperion SMGs with the Dahl barrel.
>>24537902>>24537927>>24537980>>24537992>>24538019>>24538047Hmmmm....alright>>24537957Now I have a possible solution. Break guns into their relevant stats then roll that many number of D20's. The GM then dictates how you read the rolled 20's - left to right, zig-zag, etc., GM tells you the details, you write it down.Boom - simple. Quick writing and talking and its over - not in the middle of combat mind you.
>>24538047Guns fall into three categories based on ammo type: Bitty, Boring, and Big. There are several general subtypes, outlined below by manufacturer. (Bandits make all gun types now, God help you )Gun Types (shamelessly lifted from someone else and embellished)Bitty guns:Revolvers: Low ammo:clip ratio, high accuracy and damage. Jakobs, Maliwan, Tediore, Torgue, Atlas (oh, Mashers, how I love you) (Signature weapon for Maliwan and Jakobs)Repeaters: Midrange a:c ratio, mediocre damage, mostly semi-auto but may burst. Dahl, Tediore, S&S, Hyperion. Machine Pistol: Very high ammo ratio, lower damage, low accuracy, full-auto. Vladof, S&S, AtlasSMG: High RoF, midrange damage, decent range, average ammo ratio. Often elemental. Dahl, Maliwan, S&S, Tediore, Hyperion (Signature weapon for Maliwan and Tediore)Boring Guns:Assault Rifles: Moderate damage, high RoF, deep mags, good range but not necessarily accuracy (recoil's a bitch). S&S, Atlas, VladofCarbines: Usually Burst fire or Semiauto, good range and damage, may have ass recoil. Atlas, Jakobs, Dahl (signature weapon for Dahl)
>>24538047>Somebody actually saved the retardedly oversized barrel chart I madeYESYESEXCELLENTYES
>>24538210>Machine pistolsSignature weapons of Vladof and S&S.>Repeaters Signature weapons of DahlBoring continued:Riot Shotguns: FA or high ROF. Moderate mag size, devours ammo. Decent range, horrifying recoil, frequently Elemental. Hyperion, Tediore, Atlas, S&SSawed-off shotguns: High damage, short range, obscene recoil, tiny mags that equal their Semiauto rating. Jakobs (Signature Jakobs weapon)Pumpguns: Low RoF, high damage, moderate mag size. Sometimes elemental. Tediore, Torgue (Signature weapon of both - think Hulks - as well as Bandits), S&SBig Guns: Sniper Rifles: Long range, high damage, variable RoF. Jakobs, (maybe) Dahl, Maliwan, Hyperion, Atlas (Signature weapon of Maliwan, Jakobs)Rocket Launchers: do Vehicular-scale damage, hard to use against small ground targets were it not for their splash damage. Hazardous to the health of all. Vladof, Maliwan, Atlas, Tediore, TORGUE (Signature weapon of Torgue, Maliwan)MG: DEEEEP mags, high RoF, lower accuracy, average damage. Dahl, Vladof, S&S, Atlas (signature weapons of Dahl and S&S)
>>24538384Quirks:Bought using EXP, in lieu of Skills. New Quirks may be created at the GM's discretion. (Standard skill system from the game, except you can make your own trees up as you go along. Split between several categories by adding keywords, so Melee, Shooty, and Medic skills don't all wind up in the same tree. Then again, this is the Borderlands...) You can build up to three Trees, each using two keywords. No Quirks can be used for two different trees, nor can they be duplicated. [Note, I'm least happy with this system at the moment. I'll be poking at it more later, cooking dinner now so it's just copy/paste time]Sample Quirks:Fat Sacks of Ammo (Berzerker, Soldier). Keywords: Guns, Ammo, Endurance, Long RangeChoose one of the following:Tier 1: pick one Ammo type, add 1 Clip per level of this skill. 5 Ranks.Tier 3: Add 1 Clip to all Ammo types. 5 RanksFisticuffs! (any)Keywords: Melee, Close Range, Sneakiness, Brutality, SlagChoose one of the following:Tier 1: add +1 STR/SLG to all melee attacks meeting a special condition (behind the target, while using Action Skill, etc.). 5 RanksTier 2: add 1D of STR/SLG with a condition, or +1 to all melee attacks with no condition.Tier 4: Add 1D of STR/SLG to all melee damage.Secret My Fist To Your Face Style: (Berserker, Slag Harpy)Keywords: Melee Override, Brutality, I CAST FIST, Slag.Tier 6: You may make a Very Difficult (25) STR or SLAG roll once per combat when you hit an enemy. If successful, any non-Badass target is instantly liquefied. 1 Rank
>>24538437Badass points:Characters start off with one BADASS point. You can use it to do BADASS SHIT; declare that you're spending a BADASS point, describe the action you're attempting, and roll double your normal amount of dice for that action – ignoring modifiers for health level, elemental effects, etc. The GM will assign a difficulty number before the dice are rolled; if successful, you pull it off just as described, presumably to the accolades of your fellow players and the bandits/whores/Skags surrounding you.Your first BADASS point (unlike your first dollar..) can never be taken from you; you receive a fresh BADASS point at the beginning of the next session if you're ever reduced to 0 points in-play.If you use a BADASS point, and the action is deemed sufficiently bad-ass by both the GM and your fellow players, you can earn a new, bonus BADASS point for your future sessions. These points are only regenerated after the party gets some in-town downtime. If, on the other hand, you use a BADASS point for what everyone else agrees are manky, weaselly purposes, you lose out on it (unless it's your last). You can use your Bad-assery to intimidate someone into giving you better toys, but it just makes you look like less of a Badass and more of a dick. The Biggest Badass In the Room: The character with the most unused Badass Points in the party will be targeted more often than the other character by the fickle hand of Fate. Also, Bandit bullets. Badass Enemies: Some enemies have BADASS points, and are generally of a much higher level than the fodder surrounding them. The GM is obliged to tell players when a Badass enemy appears. Watch out for Super Badasses! All Bosses are Badasses at a minimum.
>>24538696all borderlands images from previous threads:http://www.mediafire.com/?6v7y1jn0uqdgc
>>24538658Wait, what? Female bandits exist?
>>24538832they do in some fan circles
We got some art of a Slag Harpy!>>24539165
Reposts of reposts its where its all at
I say there needs to be a new claptrap line, majorly tonned down, but the older claptraps basicly jailbreak them into their annoying old selves via some random nonesense involving breakdancing
>>24541492The new ones can go up stairsOr maybe they build stairs or some shitI dunno
>>24541543I agree, there's gotta be a stairs reference in there.
>>24541543>infinitely digistructing stairsI WARNED YOU
>>24541651>Hyperions new headquartersBRO! I WARNED YOU!
>>24541746I am0kay with this
>>24542393Go away fish bitch
>>24542509That's not fish bitch, that's horse fucker. You idiot, get your shit together.
>>24542393>>24542509>>24542519/hsg/ pls go
>>24542534I agree. Fuckers gotta LEAVE
>>24542579Bitches gon' bitch.
>>24542534Wait, how would you KNOW it was /hsg/ shit unless...YOU'RE ONE OF THEM
>>24542614Incidental exposure. And it took me a few seconds to grok that little exchange.
>>24538063Serves me right for skimming the wiki. Haven't played the game in a while, been meaning to get back to it.
>>24542614/hsg/?What would that be?
>>24544949Gay ass shit
>>24543962It's good shit.Also we need to get more work done on this.
>>24548414>we need to get more work done on this.Enemies:Corporate Private Military Forces...Dahl:Professional, disciplined, and well-paid. Advance in sections, using turrets to provide cover fire rather than wasting their own ammo. Most troopers don't carry MGs or rocket launchers – that's the turrets' job. As each section advances, its alternate takes careful, aimed burst-fire shots at exposed enemies, and section heavy weapons troopers use grenade launchers to lob bursts of shells into bunkers and behind linear cover. Vehicles: Nimble pickup trucks with mounted weapons, designed to deploy and support individual Sections of 5 men and provide support. Runners for hunter-killer work and scouting.Trooper: Carbine or SMG, backed up by a Repeater. Section heavy weapons trooper: Grenade Launcher.Section Leader: SMG and RepeaterTurret: HMG and frequently an RL. MaliwanIn keeping with their corporate ethos - “Gods of the Battlefield” - Maliwan fields individual troopers with razor-honed skills and obscenely powerful weaponry. Their appearance is impeccable even in the field. Snipers hide in the hills ripping away their enemies' shields, while assault troopers in element-resistant powered armor spray rockets and elemental blasts into enemy ranks with lethal precision. Vehicles: Taking suggestions.Snipers: Sniper rifles and revolversMarines: Powered armor, shoulder-mounted rocket launcher, elemental throwers or SMGsEngineers: SMGs, light powered armor with elemental melee weaponsTurrets: Elegant, autonomous, mounted with elemental throwers. Think a Portal turret with a flamethrower and a Shock SMG.(still working on vees for Maliwan and the other corp-military forces.)
>>24552286Sounds bretty gud
>>24552286S&S gon be gud
>>24552286>Vehicles: Taking suggestions.motorcycles, off-road motorcycles and quads with sleek elegant fairings and covers in element themed paint jobs
>>24555318better yet: hoverbikes that all sport maliwian paint jobs, like hellfire and cluwhatever it is, the slag/shock SMG
>>24556105The Chulainn>"The first riastrad seized Cúchulainn, and made him into a monstrous thing, hideous and shapeless, unheard of."
>>24555318I really like the hoverbikes, fits their style. Idea - stealth mode bikes in the black Maliwan job. Ideal for snipers and other long-range fighters. Then a heavier hover-bargey thing with one 'droid driver and space for 4 Marines in pods on the sides.Torgue uses monster trucks and motorcycles with V-12 engines at a minimum, with a fondness for putting ramjets in places they don't belong.Vladof is basically Yugo technicals. Cheap, fragile, no HP, and automatic RLs/enormous gatling MG arrays in the ass end. Think the Ontos made to Warsaw Pact personal electronics standards. Jakobs.. Why would you ever NOT drive a flatbed truck with wood paneling and a giant cartoon character shouting "back off, ya varmit" on the back window? Also hand-cranked gatling guns in the back.
>>24558001Noget that FAGGOT SHIT out of here
>>24558589dude you're a fucken fagget
here at the jakobs nobody knowns who needs to be shot more than you.so our deployable gun turrets do away with complicated targeting software and put you in the gunners seat and with out all those unnecessary electronic parts our turrets have 40% more damage output ammo than any other competing brandjakobs if it took more than one shot you weren't using a jakobs
>>24559212I like it!
Archive would be most appreciated. We are nearing autosage.I'd do it myself, but sup/tg/ is apparently too advanced for my phone
>>24558001>JakobsMotherfucker, those best be skags drawing that cart.
>>24560469Get a better phone, faggot.
>>24560582>Montgomery Jakobs owns a stagecoach pulled by multiple TerramorphiThis is now my new facecanon.
>>24560954terramorphis is the ultimate final boss of borderlands 2I assume he's using a latin plural
>>24560954>His teeth made them flee in shame,>His breath was of fire.>His hide turned the mightiest tame;>His blood could inspire.
Alright, I'm archiving this shit. Any particular tags or description you'd like me to put in?
>>24561579And that's the post that put us into autosage.Goodnight everybody.
>>24561552Alright, I did it.
>>24561798LOOK UPON MY WORKS YE MIGHTY AND DESPAIRhttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/24518837/
>>24561812>Whack FooYou motherfucker
New thread is 'ere.>>24562139