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You are Ssen, a Lamia raised by a human Paladin who adopted you after killing the ones who birthed you. You are grown now, and Father has passed on. After a great deal of work, you have become a Paladin like your Father, and now take up his duties.

You are accompanied by your best friend from childhood, the insect druid Tricia; Mage, a magic user who ran away from his family of cannibal raiders known as the Ghouls (Yes, his name is Mage. It was his idea); Persephone, a 22-year old thief/ex-guerllia fighter (She goes by Peri), and Mari, a 13-year old prodigy scholar/now sniper, who has her mind and soul trapped within Peri's body; and Lea, a deeply religious musician/martial artist, trained by her father, a famous trainer for arena fighters, she's covered from her mouth down in bandages to hide the horrific state her body has become thanks to the 'cures' that saved her from cancer.

Your journey continues...

Opening theme song (NEW for Season 2!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5si7w3uS9tU

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Lamia%20Quest

1d4 chan page: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:Lamia_Daughter_Quest
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Yesterday has been a quite full day. You charged into the Bear Shrine Library to face the people raiding it. You faced down the last Shadow Sister vampire and Passion. A Lesser Dramatae. You fought them all and managed to capture Passion. To your shock you recognized the face under the mask, once the rejuvenation magic wore off, Overseer Trivalon. The leader of the White Tree Conclave and an old friend of your father. He was very tight lipped as Paladin Balles and the Occuli came to collect him.

On the way back to Bronze Peak you read through the book Passion and the Dramatae were so keen on getting. The Bear Tribe's Iron Book of Fire, the Book of Dragons. The Bear Tribe was a pioneer in human/monster diplomacy and kept all the secrets they learned in books only readable by those species they were learning from. You were able to translate the book, and you learned many things. Not the least that you are part dragon, and part leviathan. Your human appearance is the result of natural selection. You also learned the location of the 'Old One,' a Dragon who (You hope) is still alive, untouched by any form of corruption, and the keeper of the Lantern Coins.
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Oh man, lamia child quest! Time to bear that weight!
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Not wanting to waste any time, you went directly to Jeremy Sandover's brothel to confront him with what you have learned. You were a little surprised to find that Sandover wasn't some overly smarmy pimp, but a decent man...for a son of a whore that runs a brothel. A person who bought the lie of Citadel and wanted to keep it going. A person who had a sudden string of tragedies in his life, suspicious ones at that. Seeing that one of his former employees had become a monster was enough to break his spirit down, to where Lea had to help him home, while you went to talk to Trivalon as per the traitor's request.

Trivalon couldn't help but gloat when he thought that he had won. It turned out that Sandover didn't want to be one of the Dramatae, the reverse was true. The Dramatae wanted Sandover to join them! That was why they tormented and wore down the spirit of the man, so that when they gave him their bargain of power and the ability to 'fix' things, in exchange for his servitude, Jeremy would say yes, without hesitation.

You weren't going to let that happen. You tore through the streets and reached Sandover and Lea just barely in time. The Dramatae stopped time save for the three of you. Due to your presence they couldn't give their prepared pitch to Jeremy, and exposed them as the monsters they are. Peace tried to get something out of it, by holding Lea and Jeremy hostage, doing the old routine of forcing the hero to choose who lives and who dies.

You were smarter than any of that cliched crap though, you stalled, and asked questions. Eventually you broke Peace's conectration just enough to swing your tail lightning fast and knock Lea and Sandover out of Peace's grasp. That also caused their Time Stop power to run out, and the Dramatae were exposed to the public. Having lost their new member, the chance to kill a member of the Caligo Clarus, and to taint your soul by letting Jeremy die. Peace vanished with the other two, all of them promising retribution.
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>>24173086
>Dramatae practicing Lasombra tier recruitment policies.
Oh boy here we go.
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>>24173205
It's been going.
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So, apparently it's tomorrow.

That means either we stayed at an inn, or our adventures went on through the night and it's dawn now.
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>Peace looks at him. "The moment passed. You are not what we need." Peace looks at you. "You have disrupted our work for the third time."
>"Fourth" Tragedy says.
>"Personal issues don't count." Comedy says. "I didn't bitch about my baby Donnie!"
I feel like this is important. We've done something to Tragedy personally and not as a Humor. Maybe he's the relative of Mari's grandmother?
Also Comedy apparently has a son. Do we know anybody called Donnie?
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>>24173220
Aye, but they've lost their main element of operation. Secrecy, keeping the details of what they do dark, hidden, controlled.
>>24173283
>Donnie
Donovan?

Either way, how are we going to handle this. Sandover is going to want answers, and we still need to make the case for the citadel fuckery on the vampire.
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>>24173308
We also need to explain the importance of the iron books to the occuli, in addition to clearing the name of the vampire.

Also we don't have conclusive proof of the dramatae yet, only witness testimony.
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>>24173086
You stare at the ceiling. Jeremy doesn't like the old cliche of mirrors on the ceiling on his place. His rooms are well kept, clean, and have a few nice personal touches like flowers or some local art done by the in house staff. It's more like a very nice hotel than anything else.

Alright, the fact that the bed is a giant circle that has a stitched leather bladder filled with water serving as a mattress is a little more indicative of where you actually are. However, with the nice, warm (and large) baths, the lovely bed that's big enough for you to actually not have any part of you drooping on the floor, and Tricia's snuggling against you quietly, you're more than happy to tell yourself that Jeremy is just running a very fancy inn with a specialized staff.

"Mmh." Tricia says. She giggles as she causes the bed to slosh and ripple as she raises her head. "Morning." She smiles at you. "So...you didn't exactly give much details over Sandover thanking you over and over for saving his life and his soul...I take it he's not the bad guy anymore?"
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>>24173372
"No, turns out he was just another unfortunate who got taken in and fooled by Citadel."
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>>24173372
"Apparently he never was."
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>>24173372
"He never was the bad guy. We were just played to make him see that way so we'd push him into the dramatae's hands."
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>>24173372
"Nope. turns out the dramatae wanted him, not vice versa. They're absolutely livid now, though. Things're going to start moving even faster, I fear."
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>>24173372
"Despite the dubious nature of this place, he was just a poor bugger that... well lets just say he had his ideals about the citadel severely tested."
>Overseers face when we flip the chessboard.l
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We thought he was going to be evil because he was apparently perfect to be Rage. And he could have been led astray. Easily. You have to rememeber what Citadel promises isn't evil in itself. It is love, stability, prosperity. None of it is bad. And its indeed tempting.

But the price. That is what makes it something to be fought.
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So, I think sometime on our agenda today should be visiting the overseer.

I want to at least hear his reaction to that shit.
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>>24173372
He's still in the flesh trade, but he never turned into the threat he could have been.
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>>24173490
Personally, I'd rather not spell out to him what happened. Just tell him if he asks about Sandover that "he's doing fine" and shrug off any further questions about it.

Let him squirm.
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>>24173490
Sometime soon. I don't think he's going to live to his execution after pissing off the dramatae that badly.
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Now we have a big problem. The night sister was manipulated by the dramatae. We have no way of proving that though. Are we going to let the excecution continue even though we know she didn't really stand a chance against their manipulations, better people than her fell for it.
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>>24173535
naw, we're going to look for proof to back up our witness testimony.
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>>24173535
We just had a group of 4 conspirators appear in a crowd that threatened our order and sandoval to back us up.. We don't really have to name names, just mention we know that they have access to mind altering magic along with whatever other proof we can find.
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>>24173564
wait, they threatened us while the CROWD was conscious?

I thought we only broke the time stop on ourselves. Shit.

This changes things a bit.
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>>24173413
"He never was the bad guy, just another unfortunate who got taken in and fooled by Citadel. We were just played to make him see that way so we'd push him into the Dramatae's hands."

Tricia lets out a low whistle as she slides off the bed and gathers up the clothes. "Guess they're not going to be happy about that."

"They're absolutely livid now, though. Things're going to start moving even faster, I fear."

Tricia shrugs. "So what else is new?" She sighed. "Do we have to worry about Jeremy slipping over to them?"

You shake your head. "No. We thought he was going to be evil because he was apparently perfect to be Rage. And he could have been led astray. Easily. You have to rememeber what Citadel promises isn't evil in itself. It is love, stability, prosperity. None of it is bad. And its indeed tempting.

"But we showed him the price that Citadel demands and the people who work for it. It made him think rationally about it for those few precious seconds. He's with us. He wants to fight against that tainted dream...and make it his own, I suppose."

"I suppose." Tricia picks up the Iron Book Of Dragons. "Hey, when you and Ted translated this, you said that there was something in here that was important for us." She gestures to yourself and her. "Do you have time to tell, or are we still in a panicked rush to the next disaster?" Tricia looks around. "I mean...we just slept in. That must mean that there's a fire or something." She smiles at you.
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>>24173598
Pretty sure they did, of course I haven't slept since last thread so I may be remembering wrong.
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>>24173598
You broke the time stop for the three of you at the start. Then after the tail swipe, you broke it for good and everyone saw them and heard them threaten you and teleport.
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>>24173600
>there must be a fire or something
"Well, if we're not on fire yet, it must not really be so bad. And the book contained an entire library of useful things, but for us? specifically? yeah.

There's a draconic bonding ritual in there. It's apparently dangerous, but for reasons they don't indicate, and would... uh... Well, make you live longer. If we lived through the actual ritual itself. "
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>>24173639
I'm gonna go back and re-read that then, since it's important for later
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>>24173600
There's some kind of bonding ceremony in there. Like dragon marriage or something. It's apparently quite risky but if it goes well you could stay with me a lot longer. Just something to think about.
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What scares me the most is the fact that they mentioned they really can't directly touch us. This means citadel is interested in our 'story'

Which makes me believe it is now the spoiled king from one thousand and one nights who is more interested in the story than anything else. Now imagine, you've had the same story for years, and now something new as appeared. The fact citadel is taking a direct interest in us and our 'story' is disconcerting.

Remember the name of the princess who tells that story in the original tale? Scheherazade
You can start panicking now like I did when I first heard that name.
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>>24173600
Well, there's no immediately obvious reason to panic right now.

It was a draconic bonding ritual, sharing one's blood, sweat, and tears with another. It's apparently dangerous, and I'm not 100% sure how it works, but it would extend your life: probably by quite a bit.

Just something to think about. You know, if we survive this whole thing with Citadel and the Dramatae, that is.
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>>24173739
As was mentioned last thread, I wonder if the Dramatae are starting to panic at the thought that maybe Citadel wants this story to end with us killing them, or at least considers it an entertaining and viable outcome.
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>>24173690
"Well, if we're not on fire yet, it must not really be so bad. And the book contained an entire library of useful things, but for us? Specifically? Yeah.

There's a draconic bonding ritual in there. It's apparently dangerous, but for reasons they don't indicate, and would... uh... Well, make you live longer. If we lived through the actual ritual itself."

"So...this would be like a Dragon Marriage thing?" Tricia says.

"Kinda." You say, nodding.

Tricia stands there and exhales. "How...umm...how long does it take? And when you say dangerous...dangerous by regular people or dangerous by OUR scale?" She's fiddling with her hair and blushing a little.
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>>24173785
"There's not a whole lot of information in there. Maybe we can find out more when we finally find the Old One."
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>>24173785
I don't know, I'd have to properly study it. Maybe have Mage look at it, Ghoul magic IS descendant from dragon magic, so he might be able of making sense of it.
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>>24173785
"I don't know, it was kind of vague, I think we'd have to do some more research to be sure."
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>>24173785
The book's really not that specific about it. And of course, until we know more it's too big a risk for me to even consider.
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>>24173785
"All it really says is to mix blood, sweat, and tears, exchange it, and have hearts of tender iron? or something? I don't know how dangerous that means it really is. I was thinking of asking that dragon, if we ever did meet him.
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When we make our report to whathisface we should remember to emphasize that vampire girl was not a mentally stable person, and thus can not be held accountable for her actions, and should be sparred the death penalty, undergo the cure for vampirsm and attend a mental health institution.
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>>24173785
"Unfortunately dragons are notoriously bad at explaining things in detail."
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>>24173865
We should first consult with a judicio clerk on whether or not that is a legally defensible position.

Some of these nation states just kill crazy folk.
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>>24173816
"I don't know, it was kind of vague, I think we'd have to do some more research to be sure.

"Maybe have Mage look at it, Ghoul magic IS descendant from dragon magic, so he might be able of making sense of it. I was thinking of asking that dragon, if we ever did meet him."

Tricia exhales and nods and puts the book down. "Right, yeah. Good idea." She smiles at you. "So...Ted said it'd be a day or two before he'd get everything ready for a Dark peak expedition." She snaps her fingers. "Oh! That compass. I guess we're just borrowing it now, right?" She smirks.
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>>24173865
Not only that, but it's pretty obvious she had her head messed with. I mean, what kind of girl tells a Paladin that rape and torture will be ineffective on them? That is, what kind of girl expects such behavior from a Paladin?
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We gotta check on that one dudes sister to.
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>>24173898
"Yeah, Sandover will probably give it over easily, he is pretty grateful right now. However, I have an investigation to finish first. Saving legless vampire ladies and all that."
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>>24173898
"I take it you've already snatched it..? Good job. We'll just have to make sure we bring it back in one piece later.
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>>24173898
"Probably."
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>>24173917
yes, we REALLY do. It's part of our investigation, and we planned on doing that anyway.
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>>24173898
"We'll also need to talk to Trivalon again to get the full details on how he recruited them. I also want to know why he betrayed us."
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>>24173946
Not to be harsh, but it's doubtful Trivalon was ever on our side. I doubt he joined the Dramatae a few weeks ago.
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>>24173966
Yeah, but it'd be nice to know how long he's been their agent. Was he working for them while he was helping our father or did he fall somewhere in between?
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>>24173966
yeah, but he could easily, EASILY have just, like, had his vampire minions be all "Oh, help us paladin! My sisters have been gravely wounded on a trail several hours away from where we are now! Please do come to help them!" And he coulda gotten the book scott free.
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>>24173966
Also, this is the first time we have a Dramatae agent in our custody who is at least somewhat willing to talk to us. He could give us further insight on how they work or how to spot other agents.
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>>24173990
But we know that the citadel doesn't allow its servants to make use of their intelligence if it doesn't suit their plans.
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>>24173928
"Yeah, Sandover will probably give it over easily, he is pretty grateful right now. However, I have an investigation to finish first. Saving legless vampire ladies and all that." You say.

Tricia nods. "Alright, so...you going to talk to Balles, or Trivalon?" She frowns. "Also, we never got to talk to Rachel, you know...how did she get all 'Citadel..ded', wow new stupid term for us, anyway how'd she get all loopy if it wasn't from Jeremy?"
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>>24174105
"I'm guess it was Trivalon's meddling. We can talk to him later about it, but we should really make sure Rachel is okay now that the Dramatae's plans for Sandover have been foiled."
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>>24174105
"Trivalon first."
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>>24174123
"I'm guess it was Trivalon's meddling. We can talk to him later about it, but we should really make sure Rachel is okay now that the Dramatae's plans for Sandover have been foiled."

"Okay, you want all of us on this, or are you going to Cups solo and have us check up on other stuff?"
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>>24174105
"Trivalon, the Dramatae..Light forbid, she may have simply got that way on her own like Paladin Odette or that Painter."
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>>24174145
Mari and Mage should come with.
Lea and Tricia can check up on other stuff.
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>>24174144
Ssen and Lea go check up on Trivalon. He won't really talk to anybody except Sen.

Mage, Tricia, and Peri/Mari go check on Rachel. I'm sure their combined expertise would be able to sense any lingering Citadel magic.
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>>24174229
>>24174211

How about we have tricia come with us this time?

we don't REALLY need her bug magic anywhere today, so it'd be nice to be able to hang out with her.
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>>24174255
Yeah, I guess Tricia could roll with us.
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>>24174274
Well, if she could bite our tail and we then bite her feet, the rolling part could work.
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>>24174144
"Tricia, how about you come with me to talk to trivalon. The other three can go check in on rachel. If they can't wake her on their own, well, I'll be by afterwards, maybe be able to do something myself."
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You know something, I feel like apologizing to Sandover. We thought he was this big bad schemer and conspirator when all he was a guy doing his best for this dream and his people.
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>>24174229
"Tricia, how about you come with me to talk to Trivalon. The other three can go check in on Rachel. If they can't wake her on their own, well, I'll be by afterwards, maybe be able to do something myself."

"Okay." She nods. "I'll go set off the others."

About ten minutes later you five/six are all set up and ready. Peri/Mari declined to go to Cups with Mage and Lea, but wanted to talk with Balles and look over the laws. Well, Mari did at least. Peri would rather keep sleeping in, seeing as this could be the only day on record that they could do that without the world inflicting crisis upon you.

"He hasn't said anything since you left." The Occuli guard says. "We have him under guard 24/7 with Magically Trained Occuli support. Doubled since the incident with the unknown assailants. We haven't told him anything either." He says. "He just finished the vodka and has been decidedly calm."

"So..." Tricia says. "How are we handling this? We being the smug ones now, or bad lamia/good wasp witch, or just start with a hammer and go from there?"
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>>24174522
I'd prefer starting out with the hammer but then I'm a paladin. Also, why isn't it good paladin/bad wasp witch?
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>>24174522
Smug is just asking for trouble. Just see what info we can glean off him.
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>>24174522
"Let's pretend his plan went off without a hitch. He's apparently more willing to talk when he thinks he already succeeded, and I'm pretty sure after what just happened, I doubt the Dramatae would have bothered telling him they failed."
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>>24174566
"I'd prefer starting out with the hammer but then I'm a paladin. Also, why isn't it good paladin/bad wasp witch?"

"Because you're ALWAYS the Good Paladin, Ssen...I thought it might be fun to change things up." She shrugs.
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>>24174592
Use this >>24174589 tactic. Trivalon seems the type more likely to blab when he's confident he's won.
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>>24174522
aww peri, you poor girl, you should have slept in. This is our only chance.

"Well, hopefully we'll be able to just start where we we left off. I mean, he WAS doing that whole 'villainous reveal of my plot!' thing."
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>>24174589

Hmm. Perhaps we might try to play a trick on Trivalon if he assumes that he won?

Ssen goes all hardliner paladin full-justice mode out of seeming frustration over losing Sandover and/or possibly Lea getting hurt, Tricia acts the part of the good cop trying to prevent Ssen from crossing a line?
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>>24174637
Yes. Perfect.
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>>24174522
Eh, I was thinking not so much smug as calm and confident. It's best not to antagonize any of these people too much, even now. After all, a cornered animal is that much more dangerous.
>>24174566
Because we're a lamia. Most people immediately just see us as that, and even those who know that there IS a lamia paladin out there need to have us explain it to them.
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>>24174700
>Most people immediately just see us as that, and even those who know that there IS a lamia paladin out there need to have us explain it to them
I'm pretty sure Trivalon knows about us being a paladin.
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>>24174589
"Let's pretend his plan went off without a hitch. He's apparently more willing to talk when he thinks he already succeeded, and I'm pretty sure after what just happened, I doubt the Dramatae would have bothered telling him they failed."

"Right." She nods. "But I'd still really really like to be the nice one this time."

Trivalon looks up and smiles at you two as the two of you enter the room. Tricia sits down on a chair and frowns at the man.

"Ladies. A little early for vodka, so we should most likely skip that part." He sighs. "So...now what?"
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>>24174730
"I just want to know. How long have you been working for the Dramatae? When you were friends with my father? Since the very beginning? Why would you work with them?"
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>>24174730
"You son of a bitch."
Just that. Just give him the impression he's won, and see where he goes.
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I normally don't play good occuli/bad occuli, it's not my style. So you guys go nuts. Imma make sammich
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>>24174730
I'm okay with this.
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>>24174863
It's very simple. It's how you carry yourself: make a show of it, be threatening, give your partner obvious cues for when they should try and "reign you in" and take over for a bit, but most of all keep them talking.

In this case, simply making him think he has the advantage, or that his group's plans have worked, should be enough to get him going and keep him going.
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>>24174819
"You son of a bitch."

He shrugs. "I do hope that Lea is unharmed. Peace never takes life unless needed, but Comedy and Tragedy are...less collected."

"She's fine, no thanks to you." Tricia says.

"Actually you should thank me. They wanted to kill you after your little soiree in Stone Hall, when they asked for my opinion. I said no." He shrugged. "A monster martyr would be too permanent."

"I just want to know. How long have you been working for the Dramatae? When you were friends with my father? Since the very beginning? Why would you work with them?"

Trivalon holds up four fingers. "That's four questions, Ssen. A bit much, and I'm not feeling too chatty." He sighs. "Lets start with one for free. Then we'll talk exchange rates."
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>>24175007
Actually only 2, why would be sufficient, let him damn himself.
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>>24175007
"All right then, we'll start with the most important one. Why?"
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>>24175007
"The first three questions were basically the same thing, and you're not really in a position to negotiate."
With a nice fangy snarl.
It's fun to play the bad guy once in a while.
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>>24175007
"Very well, How did you control the vampires?"

remember people, we need evidence to clear Helen out of him, that is our Top priority.
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>>24175088
Good point, redacting >>24175068 for now.
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>>24175084
"Very well, How did you control the vampires?"

He blinks and sits up. He pauses and then shrugs. "The mask. Why are you so concerned about that? If you want to try and control your own undead, I'll tell you now that the masks dont work for anyone but the chosen Passions."
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>>24175157
"So they had no control over what they did?"
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>>24175157
"When did you apply the mask's control to these women?"
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>>24175193
"So they had no control over what they did?"

"Well, to that they had to do what I told them to, not as to how, why are you asking me about this nonse-" He stops. "Oh...is that it? You...you're trying to save that thing you chopped the leg off of?" He chuckles. "Any small victory for His Light, you'll take. Is that it?" He nods. "Your father would have been proud." He pauses and then shrugs. "Alright. No skin off of my nose." He shrugs. "The old woman had run off because Sandover had said she was too old to be one of his pretty show-whores any more. The girl has fits of passion, and I knew that if I came to her, then I could talk her into accepting the deal. She was turned, and then she was under my control. I don't know if that's enough to qualify her for being unwillingly turned, since I never forced her. However, all actions that she did while she was a vampire were my calls." He nods. "Is that enough?"
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>>24175361
And the dwarf in the hospital right now? The one that suddenly became happy and complacent in creating masks?
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>>24175376
Yeah, is this at all to do with the masks?
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>>24175376
"And the dwarf in the hospital right now? The one that suddenly became happy and complacent in creating masks?"

He shakes his head. "That wasn't me. Peace handled things directly related to Sandover's recruitment. I was told to collect the women, and then I was free to use them as I saw fit. Normally, I don't do as much field work as this. Actually, I usually don't do ANY field work. But we've been a little short handed."
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>>24175477
Something tells me we're not going to get any info on the Dramatae's future plans out of him, so I guess now would be a good time to ask him why he did it.
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>>24175477
"Because they killed Rage for helping me clean up the mess they made of Stone Hall."
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Do we really need any more now? I'm really tempted to drop the bomb now. It might break him completely. Something along the lines of. "Well, exploiting suggestibility to gain control of someone should be enough. Especially if Sandover is willing to attest to her episodes."

Personal isn't the same as important. He was working with them, and is fairly unrepentant about it. The details of how long or why are... well, trivial. We will offer him confession though.
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Ask why. I doubt he will answer without exchanging something we won't want to though. So I think this is where we should stop. If so then:

"Thank you. That will be all."

Start to leave then turn back around.

"Thank you for warning me that they were striking then. I wouldn't have been able to save both Lea and Sandover if you hadn't. Good day Passion. I hope selling your soul to the darkness was worth it. May you find your way to His Light regardless."
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>>24175553
I was hoping on our way out we could say "Oh, and I wouldn't look too smug, the other Dramatae seems pretty angry that you let their plans slip early enough for me to stop them claiming Sandover. Your execution will probably be a mercy, compared to what they'd do."

Then we leave without a backwards glance.
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>>24175563

I think we should offer to take his confession. I doubt he will take us up on the offer, but no soul is beyond redemption.
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>>24175576
>>24175563
No. No smug. We aren't Odette. Our plots aren't for personal satisfaction.
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>>24175590
We can offer him a confession before we tell him he screwed up.
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I forget, who was this guy again?
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>>24175563

We shouldn't tip our hand too quickly. There might be some more information he will volunteer if we appear desperate and angry.
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>>24175617
The guy from the first town who helped us stop the mob from killing us and sent us to find the artifact that led to PeriMari
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>>24175477
"Well, you mentioned it, so you should start talking. About being shorthanded, about what type of work you did, field and non, maybe about your bosses."
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>>24175619
we kinda blew that when we started asking about the vampire and the sister. If we were going to play angry we should have asked what plans, where sandover would have been taken, why he did it etc. Instead we went the resigned to do our best route. And it worked, we got some information for the woman. And Rachel as well.
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You drum your fingers and sigh. "Do you wish to give a confession?" You ask.

He shakes his head. "No. Thank you for the offer though. I do hope that you manage to help...what was her name?" He asks honestly.

You aren't sure what disgusts you more. The idea that he never even cared to learn Helen's name, or that his generic concern for her, and his willingness to help save her, is honest.
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>>24175914
"I think that's all. Whatever you sold your soul to the Dramatae for, I hope it was worth it."
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>>24175914

"Her name is Helen."

Let's actually let a bit of our anger show here, to let the act we've got on have more depth.
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>>24175477
Well, we've already got some fairly valuable information out of him: testimony that he controlled the vampire at least after being turned, and voluntarily being turned doesn't itself seem like a crime, just a sign of bad judgment and/or being on the wrong side of a bout of crazy. So we potentially have enough evidence on that front; we should take it to Balles after this and see if he needs any more than that.

As for Balles (note the careful choice of wording and the silently lowercase word): "So, now that the Dramatae have their rage, what use would they have had for you? Were you in it for the power, or do you genuinely believe in their mission?"
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>>24175914
"Her name is Helen, and Peace failed." Then leave without explanation.
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>>24175980
I believe you mean Trafalger instead of Balles
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>>24175980
>rage, not Rage

heh i see what you did there.

>>24176007
Trivalon
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>>24175969
"Her name is Helen." You say, showing a little fang.

"Ah, well. I hope you can help her." He says. "Are we done?"
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>>24176036
"It will, along with Sandover's testimony."

then get up and leave.
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>>24175980
You pause and look at him. "So, now that the Dramatae have their rage, what use would they have had for you? Were you in it for the power, or do you genuinely believe in their mission?"

Trivalon nods. "We're done."
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>>24176036
Alright, now is time for our exit.

"Yes, that will be enough, along with Sandover's testimony."

"I hope whatever you got for selling your soul to darkness was worth it. And may His Light forgive you after your journey throught the darkness."
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>>24176061
"I suppose we are. With what you've told me here, and Sandover's testimony, saving Helen should be possible. Thank you."

Then we leave.
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>>24176061
One last attempt to extract the whys from him: "You seemed willing to answer questions about your reasons earlier, and said something about 'exchange rates'. What would you want, exactly?"
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>>24176088
(Would be good to know what he wants even if we don't intend to give it to him.)
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>>24176071
This sounds like a good way to end the conversation. I'm genuinely curious how he'll react to realizing how badly he screwed up.
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>>24176117
I am betting it breaks him, i kind of doubt he will survive to his execution, considering how angry the Dramatae are.
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>>24176163
Can't we appeal for him to serve life in Prison?

I mean, why kill off a little fish when you can use him as bet for the big ones?
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>>24176173
Unless you want to guard him all day every day from now on, I don't think that's really viable. Besides, Balles is a stickler for the law, he might have been willing to give us a chance with Helen, but no way he's letting Trivalon off easy.
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After this, before we go to Balles with what we have, we should meet up with Mari to hear what she learned about the local laws.

>>24176163
Perhaps, or perhaps they'll just leave him to rot. They're pretty enraged right now, but blasting into a prison to kill their Passion doesn't seem like it fits with Citadel's story very well, especially after their very public exposure. Seems like they need to move on to their next target, and the Lightbringers' next goal. Of course, Trivalon may still think they're after him, and the Dramatae themselves may not be in a particularly rational mood right now.
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>>24176189
Life in Prison for an old man who used to be a Cop is many things.

But it sure as hell isn't being "let off easy."
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>>24176173
Letting a villain who has no intent of stopping his antics live in prison instead of excecuting him like the law demands? Who are we? Batman?
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>>24176240
>Cop
He was an overseer.
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>>24176173
I doubt it, they go medieval on people here, If the offense is bad enough to merit life in prison it merits the headsman.

the only question is how badly he dies, a headman's axe would at least be quick, the Dramatae would probably hit him with something like Lamia venom, or other such things that cause ugly deaths.
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>>24176088
"You seemed willing to answer questions about your reasons earlier, and said something about 'exchange rates'. What would you want, exactly?"

He shrugs. "I probably would have asked you personal questions, or made you and your girlfriend do embarrassing things. Possibly strip," He shrugs. "Whatever I thought would be amusing, but we should act like adults, shouldn't we? I wasn't going to tell you anything useful about the Dramatae anyway."

"You really think they'll let you live? That you'll see the light of day again?" Tricia says.

"Trivalon? Oh no, I'm dead. I will be tried, executed, and hanged. The coroner will kick my body a few times, and then I'll be tipped into a pauper's grave wrapped in a sheet." He smiles. "Then, a month later, a young man will walk up the steps of a Conclave in our land, and introduce himself with whatever name he's using, and he'll dive into his work with Passion and gusto, and one day he might even be made Overseer." He smiles calmly. "So I have nothing to be afraid of."

"You little piece of slime! Our father's TRUSTED you!" Tricia snaps.

"Yes, they did." Trivalon says. "Now, I'm tired and would like to rest. Goodbye Tricia, Ssen. Again, I hope that was enough to make sure that Helen comes out of this alright."

You take Tricia by the shoulder and walk her to the door.

"Yes, that will be enough, along with Sandover's testimony." You say. "I hope whatever you got for selling your soul to darkness was worth it. And may His Light forgive you after your journey throught the darkness."

"Thank you, Lady Paladin." He says.

The two of you wait for a moment as you see Trivalion suddenly put it together. "Wait...what?!"

"There it is!" Tricia says, laughing.

Trivalon doesn't say anything. He just goes pale white and then turns to stare off into space. His head does a slight shake of 'no' as you're sure he's going back over his description of his fate, only now re-evaluating what the ending is to be now.

You close the door.
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>>24176317
"Man, am I a terrible bad-occuli."
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>>24176317
On the way out, tell the guards that if Trivalon has a sudden attack of wanting to talk to us, to let us know.

Then let's meet up with Mari and see what she learned about the local laws as they might affect Helen, and assuming it sounds like we have enough, take it to Balles.
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>>24176317
Hah.

Time to meet up with the others and pool our information before we go see Balles.
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>>24176317
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I think I'll recommend that they burn his corpse, let the Phoenix decide if they want him reborn as much as Citadel once did.
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>>24176317
Condemning a person to a grisly end should not feel so satisfying.

..Gotta be careful or we'll turn out like Bobbi.
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>>24176375
We did him a favor. Mortality is what drives men to create, to act, to change the world in which they live, that the product of that change may forever echo through the future, as evidence of their identity, long after they breathe their last.
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>>24176413
It isn't Citadel, I think it's the dramatae that have a means of bringing him back, and now he knows they won't.
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>>24176419
No force in this world or any other could make us turn out like her.

>>24176429
Screw mortality. Who needs a ticking clock of doom to tell you to live life to the fullest?

>>24176413
I don't think that would stop anything if the Dramatae really planned to revive him, if that's what he meant rather than just that another would take his place. But as an extra measure of safety, sure, why not, if it makes us feel better.
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>>24176419
we hardly condemned him to it, he did that himself as soon as we succeeded at saving Sandover thanks to his gloating.
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>>24176419
I am feeling a mix of satisfaction and dissapointment.

I LIKED this guy, now he's gotta be executed. I just want more frenemies, like robin.
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>>24176502
Unfortunately, I think all the stuff we liked about him was an act. The one we saw in the cell was the real Trivalon.

Besides, Robin is all the frenemy one could ever need.
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>>24176502
Pity him. He doesn't know what he lost in choosing to switch sides.
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>>24176502
I'm mostly just disappointed that we don't even know what would drive an otherwise seemingly decent person like Trivalon to this. And we may never know. That hurts almost more than that he did it.
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>>24176519
With ends like these, who needs frenemies?
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>>24176356
"Man, am I a terrible bad-occuli." You say as you head back to the main floor.

"Yeah, but you're awesome at being you." Tricia winces. "I didn't just say that, did I?" She shakes her head and then pauses. "Hey, so...I know that as a Paladin you're automatically an Occuli, but are the rest of us Occuli too? I mean...I dunno. I prefer to be Caligo Clarus...eh, doesn't matter I suppose." She shrugs.

"So," Mari looks up from a desk that's covered with books and papers. "You get the creep to say anything useful?"
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>>24176563
"Turns out he was controlling the vampires via the masks, hopefully that should help convince Balles to go easy on Helen, but beyond that he wouldn't tell us anything about the Dramatae's plans."
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>>24176563
Mind manipulating masks. Masks enchanted to take ones will and leave them a puppet to him.
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>>24176563
>"Yeah, but you're awesome at being you." Tricia winces. "I didn't just say that, did I?" She shakes her head and then pauses. "Hey, so...I know that as a Paladin you're automatically an Occuli, but are the rest of us Occuli too? I mean...I dunno. I prefer to be Caligo Clarus...eh, doesn't matter I suppose." She shrugs.

"I think you can be both; just add it to the list of titles. Don't worry, Isen will remember them all."

> "So," Mari looks up from a desk that's covered with books and papers. "You get the creep to say anything useful?"

"Yeah. He said that Helen and the other two voluntarily agreed to be turned into vampires, but that everything they did after that was under his control, not theirs."
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>>24176591
"Except that they might have helped him faked his death..if he hadn't screwed the pooch by bragging to us."
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>>24176563
"Enough that we should be able to save Helen. He was using the Passion Dramatae mask to control them completely after they where Turned."
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Should we tell of how Trivalon seemed to be very unconcerned about being executed? It seemed almost as if death would be a slight inconvenience, if the Dramatae were still interested in rescuing him.

Perhaps Citadel has a method of reincarnating faithful servants without wiping their memories.
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>>24176689
The Citadel is powerful enough to pull people back from the Afterlife?

Yeah I hope not and it's just a case of the Dramatae pulling a time stop switcharoo, because otherwise that means we're batting so far out of our league that we need a T-Ball stand.

Much as I'd love to try and recruit Odette's reincarnation.
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>>24176743
Or perhaps the host really does die, but the new Passion has the memories of the old?
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>>24176771
Or they put the soul into a New Body ala Mari's grandmother.
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>>24176743
The dramatae and the cyclic nature of Citadel... Mayhap there is a form of reincarnation awaiting those who pass, and the Dramatae, because of their link to another endlessly cyclic phenomenon, can track a person through the reincarnation process.
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>>24176805
I'm betting that Comedy and Tragedy are similar recruits, but Peace has always been the same Peace since the beginning of Citadel.
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>>24176591
>>24176607

"I think you can be both; just add it to the list of titles. Don't worry, Isen will remember them all."

"Ugh, forget it then, anything that keeps his mouth from flapping is a good thing." Tricia says.

"Huh?" Mari asks.

"Nothing important, I'm just quibbling about semantics." Tricia says. "Tell Mari what we got."

"Trivalon said that Helen and the other two voluntarily agreed to be turned into vampires, but that everything they did after that was under his control, not theirs.

"Turns out he was controlling the vampires via the Passion Mask, hopefully that should help convince Balles to go easy on Helen, but beyond that he wouldn't tell us anything about the Dramatae's plans. They might have faked his death...at least before he screwed up things with Sandover."

Mari groans and puts her face in her hands. "Oh, that's not good." She says. "Well, it's good to the point where she won't be declared anathema and cured to wander the Darkness forever. But..." She shakes her head. "Willingly accepting Vampirism is an executable offense. Right now, the best we can do is have her crimes be pardoned and a Lightkeeper give her soul a direct blessing to aid her in her moment of weakness."

"Why? Why is it so harsh?" Tricia asks.

"Do you know what is used in the Vampire cure?" Mari holds up a list of what looks like very rare, and very expensive, alchemical ingredients. "And this stuff can't be made overnight either. There's a waiting list for the cure. The asylum in Purple Sands actually has a wing for people who have been involuntarily. They sit around, waiting for the next batch to be made, and the longer people have to wait." She drums her fingers. "Of course, there's a quicker option, but that's in Citadel and...well...the more I look at it the more I don't like it...and leave it at that." She sighs. "And the admission that Helen had 'mood swings' isn't going to be enough to satisfy the law. We have to prove her insane."

(More coming)
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>>24176899
>Well, it's good to the point where she won't be declared anathema and cured to wander the Darkness forever

"The Paladins *do* that kind of thing? Just what would you have to do to earn *that*?"
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>>24176930
Littering.
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>>24176930
Jaywalking.
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>>24176930

Farting in public and blaming someone else for it.
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>>24176954
>>24176965
>>24176970
In Citadel, I could believe it.
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>>24176930
When they say "Keep off the Grass" by the light do they mean it.
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>>24176930
Toothpaste + Orange juice
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>>24177007
That's a punishment, not a crime.
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>>24176930

Not using a coaster.
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>>24176899
Just making sure we understand: since she's no longer controlled, is there some fundamental reason why she can't live without the vampire cure? We have a ghoul in our party; vampires can't exactly go vegetarian, but nothing says they have to suck on humans.

So, leaving aside the issue of taking a dose of the cure that would better go to a more deserving candidate, what makes accepting vampirism itself a crime?
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>>24176899
"Well that's not too hard." Tricia says. "I remember reading and hearing about how people in the upper class would commit men and women to the asylums for 'temporary insanity' if they were acting too unmannered, or..." She squeezes your shoulder and smiles at you. "You know, or for any other number of reasons that made them 'unsuitable' for society. Dad was always upset about seeing that happen."

Mari nods. "It's...an option...but if that's the case. Then Jeremy is going to have to sign off on papers saying that Helen is insane." She flips through her books and papers. "Right, since Helen keeps screaming and ranting about how she's pretty for Jeremy's sake, and Jeremy has...right right..." She sighs. "So it's kill her now, or declare her insane and lock her up in an aslyum until she gets high enough on the waiting list to be cured...and if there are others with 'superior needs' that arrive after her...that could be a very very long wait."

"There any other cure that works?"

Mari shrugs. "If there is, the Conclaves haven't found it. So far it's this complicated cure, divine intervention, dragon blood, or some other form of a miracle to cure her." She groans. "And even THEN she might have to spend the rest of her life in a mental facility, because if she doesn't have the sanity to refuse vampirism, then she can't be fit to be among society." Mari closes the books and shakes her head. "We have a lot of really crappy options."
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>>24177026
We would have to find out what CONTRACTING vampirism requires, now wouldn't we?
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>>24177051
Necromancy. Best left alone.
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>>24177045
"Dragon blood might actually be an option in the near future. We'll keep it in mind, but I can't rightly say that i'd choose for it to go to her before others on the waiting list. We'll have her committed for now."
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>>24177045
"At least she would have chance to live and change than simply killed off. That's all I can really ask for."
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>>24177045
"Life in an asylum, or an execution in the light? Well, I suppose we could always ask her which she'd prefer."
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>>24177051
That's something I'd like to know.

>Mari shrugs. "If there is, the Conclaves haven't found it. So far it's this complicated cure, divine intervention, dragon blood, or some other form of a miracle to cure her." She groans. "And even THEN she might have to spend the rest of her life in a mental facility, because if she doesn't have the sanity to refuse vampirism, then she can't be fit to be among society." Mari closes the books and shakes her head. "We have a lot of really crappy options."

"Well, dragon's blood might be a possibility, though it doesn't address the sanity question, nor why she's any more deserving of that than the normal cure just because she knows us and we feel bad for her. And it would put us in a rather large rush to get it when I'd hoped to be able to take our time getting to Dark Peaks.

If we had Jeremy declare her insane, I take it there's no going back from that, whether she gets a cure or not?"
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>>24177026
>what makes accepting vampirism itself a crime?

It's seen as a rejection of His Light. Also, sane vampires are the exception. Not the norm. There's a reason they're confined, and that you find that the necromancers that CONTROL vampires are NOT vampires themselves.
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well if a Lamia has dragon's blood within them I wonder if we can distill our own blood through alchemy. Might be worth taking lessons from Mari.

>>24177144
considering how the reacted to Beacon and Lea's punches that sadly seems the case.
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>>24177144
And here I was hoping for a *good* reason. As much as we praise and serve the Light, heresy alone should not be a capital crime, or a crime at all. That's a very Citadel kind of law.
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>>24177159
>Drink of my blood

Ssen confirmed for Lamia Jesus
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>>24177159
>well if a Lamia has dragon's blood within them I wonder if we can distill our own blood through alchemy. Might be worth taking lessons from Mari.

That's a disturbingly fascinating idea. Of course, given how toxic our blood normally is, any volunteers for testing that theory?
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alchemic dragon magic. Just will it and our blood will heal instead of harm.
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>>24177159
or it just jellies their bones, Echo said it would be a Bad Idea for a vampire to bite us.
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>>24177213
Presumably the distillation process would filter out the venom. Much like the collection of dragon's blood has to be careful to avoid dragon bile, which is apparently the single most toxic natural substance known.
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I think We'd need to find a leviathan to be capable of alchemising our blood. What kind of shit did leviathan blood do to make our blood a potent poison?
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>>24177234
still sounds like a genuine Bad Idea, as there's a huge difference between changing the properties of something(our blood) and making sure two different substances dont mix(dragon's blood with dragon bile)
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>>24177283
Not Leviathan, I think, but the dragon blood.
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dragon Bile is probably partially responsible for the toxicity in our blood. It might also have something to do with our leviathanic heritage.
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>>24177290
Yeah, it would rely on the assumption that there exist separable components in lamia blood to begin with. In any case, breaking the fourth wall for a moment, it seems narratively unlikely when we have a full-blooded dragon nearby.
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>>24177300
>>24177283
It's possible that the Dragon blood-derived miracles we're seeking, by the way, are totally unrelated to the sort which Scheherazade performed when healing our disfiguration. Those regenerative capacities could come from the troll part of her blood.
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>>24177164
Gee, you think?! Also, you don't see it weird that getting the chomp is a one way ticket to crazy town? Kinda like something was egging them on?

>>24177051
There's the old fashioned way of the chomp, a ritual with blood and a little alchemy (which was the case here), or an assortment of forbidden curses and spells.

>>24177139
"Well, dragon's blood might be a possibility, though it doesn't address the sanity question, nor why she's any more deserving of that than the normal cure just because she knows us and we feel bad for her. And it would put us in a rather large rush to get it when I'd hoped to be able to take our time getting to Dark Peaks.

"If we had Jeremy declare her insane, I take it there's no going back from that, whether she gets a cure or not?"

"No. If she was walking around wearing trousers, or talking to birds too much, then yes, that could be dealt with. But 'too crazy to behave how we want you to' is not the same as 'so crazy she became a vampire.' So, it'd be a life sentence."

You sigh. "Life in an asylum, or an execution in the light? Well, I suppose we could always ask her which she'd prefer."

"You mean when she isn't screaming for Jeremy or babbling in rhyme?" Tricia asks.

"Ugh, this sucks." Mari says.

"Welcome to life, kiddo." Peri says.

"Yeah, yeah." Mari says. "So, how do we head with this boss?"
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>>24177347
Life in madness? Death might be a mercy for her.
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>>24177347
"Is there no chance we could convince Paladin Balles that she was manipulated into accepting the vampirism?"
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>>24177347
>Gee, you think?! Also, you don't see it weird that getting the chomp is a one way ticket to crazy town? Kinda like something was egging them on?

Oh, I seriously doubt that the vampirism caused the crazy. I think she had some first-class crazy to start with, and then between the vampirism, the mind control, and Jeremy's Citadelesque preachings, she went full vampire-bat-guano crazy.

I think we ought to be having this conversation with the others. Take a moment, say the prayer, and then turn to them to say "So with that preface, you can guess what I'd think is behind her descent into darkness, not to mention the concept of voluntary vampirism itself being worthy of death merely as a heresy. And if Lea asks, I never said that last part."
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>>24177347
ya we get it, citadel enforces Vampire = Crazy just like most monsters who accept its rule. Sadly for them since they were human at the start they are more susceptable.

I think our next step is to talk to Sandover, about several things. Jeremy's Sister and her masks. Helen's fate. And finally the compass.

>>24177399
we'd have to have proof that Peace was the one who caused the Shadow Sister's to lose control.
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>>24177347
>>24177435
I think we need to hear from the others who talked to Rachel, if not talk to her ourselves. Whatever it takes to get her back might teach us something, and she might have some information to share.
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>>24177347
"Well, not everyone can be innocent, I guess. I think I'm going to try to ask her, then, if she's babbling too much to help, well... I'm not sure."
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Im ok with visiting Rachel next
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>>24177399
I'm sorry, as much as I would like to save a life. I also will not spin facts to save them. She took on vampirism willingly. If you want to save her it's life in an asylum but the more I look at ... >>24177379 has the right point. It might be best to just do a mercy killing.
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>>24177434
let's leave out that last part- we're unsure how non-citadel vampires are. Don't want to give them a mass pardon prematurely.
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>>24177473
yeah, let's visit Rachel. We need to get her side.
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>>24177511
I agree; we're not going to deny reality, we're just going to find a way to change it. Seems entirely too easy that we could get all the evidence we need on the morning of day one.

Let's learn from Rachel and talk to Sandover, then consider our options from there.

Getting a serious Majora's Mask vibe from saying that.
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>>24177512
I'm not talking about vampirism itself. I'm just talking about the idea of heresy as a capital crime, and voluntarily choosing to become a vampire as irredeemable heresy. The vast majority of vampires are probably still evil and/or insane.

And the vast majority of lamia are monsters or pets.
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>>24177576
I would argue the semantics of the differences between citadel and non citadel variants of creatures and how they should be treated, but that sounds really boring to me, so I will concede instead.
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>>24177555
I seriously doubt will getting anything from talking to Rachel to help with Helens case. Remember that was Peaces deal. And we've gotten we can in regards to her from Sandover. I really don't see this ending anyway that will be 'happy.' You can't always get a happy ending for people.

At this point I think we've tried our best.
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>>24177616
we could always talk to Helen, if she stops ranting for a few minutes.

perhaps Sandover could get through to her, now that he is on our side.
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>>24177616
actually, I want to apply the knowledge we got from the vampires to rachel's case. See if anything might help.

We can't do much for the vamp at this point from what we've seen, but we can still help dorf at our leisure.
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>>24177399
>>24177434
"So with that preface, you can guess what I'd think is behind her descent into darkness, not to mention the concept of voluntary vampirism itself being worthy of death merely as a heresy. And if Lea asks, I never said that last part."

"Heh, said what?" Peri says.

"Right, so is there no chance we could convince Paladin Balles that she was manipulated into accepting the vampirism?"

"Let me see Trivalon's story," Mari says looking at the written transcript of your interview with Trivalon that Tricia took. "Yeah...this...is a little useful to helping us." She frowns. "He says that he exploited her, and that he tricked her but..." She shakes her head. "The biggest problem is that Helen is still claiming that she did it on her own free will."

"Well, not everyone can be innocent, I guess. I think I'm going to try to ask her, then, if she's babbling too much to help, well... I'm not sure."

"Yeah, but if she keeps talking nonsense, then that's the crazy vampire talking for her, not the actual person." Tricia says.

"Exactly, now usually even the most crazy vampires can say that they were turned voluntarily or involuntarily, but if we want to clinch that she wasn't in her right mind, temporarily, she has to admit it."

"So, the only way we can prove she deserves to be cured of vampirism...is to cure her vampirism." Tricia says.

"Pretty much, yeah." Mari nods. "Trivalon's story can at the very least, make it so that Jeremy doesn't have to commit her. She'll just be locked away for a long...long time."

"So we got more time." Tricia says.

"If you want to call it that, sure...but it's more like we got a 'less awful' option." She sighs. "We blame everything on her flighty moods and Trivalon, and lock her away in an asylum and MAYBE one day cure her."
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>>24177616
Look, if we can stop an execution in the heart of the Citadel with thousands of people watching, BEFORE becoming a paladin, we can do this.
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>>24177662
(Ach, forgot to put in the anti-citadel prayer at the top. Apologies.)
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>>24177631
I really doubt it. Maybe Sandover can get to her. /Maybe/. But if can't we are still left at crossroad as to what to do with her.

>>24177633
>but we can still help dorf at our leisure.

This is fine. Agreeable even. The problem with Helens case is we've hit a deadend and need to do choose something to do to her.

>>24177664
Difference: They were innocent; she isn't.
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>>24177664
Nothing fundamentally says executions must be public; we could at least try to spare the spectacle, if it came to that. But we've got a long way to go before then.

>>24177662
Well, that's fairly clear. If we want to get anything from Helen, we have just under three days to get a cure for vampirism.
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>>24177662
"If we run out of time, and it's down to an execution or an asylum, then we'll consider the less awful option. Though I'm not sure which one is less awful. We should make sure Sandover is ready to have her declared insane, if it comes to that.

But it sounds like our best option, and certainly the one in keeping with the usual sanity of our plans, is to find a cure for vampirism in less than three days.

And on an entirely unrelated note, perhaps we should get that compass from Sandover."
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>>24177689
But she IS innocent. Almost every damn crime she's committed she did while under the influence of mind control.
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remember Ted said it'd take a while to get to the Old One's lair, certainly longer then three days. The only other option we have is Lamia blood alchemy.
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So, Echo, did you expect us to not only capture one of the vampires but dedicate this much effort to saving her when you tossed them at us? Or was this out of left field for you?
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>>24177743
Exactly. The one thing she did of her own volition, was to make the stupid and "heretical" choice to become a vampire.

>>24177748
Hmmm, true:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/24158237/#p24162644
> The whole thing will take a week and a half journey to get there, anyway.

Though it's worth finding out if there's any faster way to get there.
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>>24177743
>willingly turned into a vampire
>innocent

No. Tricked or not. She still did it of her free will.

>>24177748
And that still seems like too risky of plan even for us.
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the alchemy doesn't have to occur while the blood is in our veins you know.
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>>24177794
>And that still seems like too risky of plan even for us.

That's a pretty high bar.
"Hey, people following us, come over here and join us."
"Let's ride a boar-drawn sled."
"Dive in front of the arrow."
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>>24177794
Oh so if someone gives a kid some heroin coated candy he's guilty of drug abuse.

Got it champ.
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>>24177794
you are missing the entire point, the fact that she was turned, even willingly, should /not/ be a crime punishable by death in the first place.
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>>24177816
It's not a kid, and I am sincerely doubtful of her even being originally insane.
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>>24177816
Yup. "Would you like eternal youth and incredible strength? (dietary restrictions may apply, no warranty for loss of immortal soul, void where heretical)"
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the eternal youth a beauty probably is what sold it for her sadly. remember her entire life was built around being both.
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>>24177835
Right. I'm willing to accept that, if she really did choose it voluntarily, she's at least somewhat insane, though not necessarily incurably so. But that doesn't mean she deserves to die for it.

(Now, if she chose vampirism knowing that she'd subsequently kill and feed on people, and not caring, *that* would make a pretty strong case.)
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>>24177726
"If we run out of time, and it's down to an execution or an asylum, then we'll consider the less awful option. Though I'm not sure which one is less awful. We should make sure Sandover is ready to have her declared insane, if it comes to that.

"But it sounds like our best option, and certainly the one in keeping with the usual sanity of our plans, is to find a cure for vampirism in less than three days.

"And on an entirely unrelated note, perhaps we should get that compass from Sandover."

"And the Paladin Serpent's back in full form!" Peri says, tossing her hands up.

"Ted said that it would take at least..." Tricia shakes her head. "Never mind, I know now to never stand between you and the impossible."

Peri/Mari sigh and straightens up the desk for Balles' people to return the stuff that she took. "That happens anyway Tricia, she likes to use US as battering rams at it. Alright, we going straight to Ted's or hooking up with the others and see Quentin's sister?"
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>>24177868
"Let's see Quentin's sister. All this effort and I've never even seen the person I'm trying to help!"
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>>24177868
Dialogue for one of the popular options:
"You said dragon blood was a possible cure. Any chance the recent revelations about my ancestry could be of use here? Is there healing there, not just poison?"

>>24177883
This; nicely said.
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>>24177868
"Meri, darling, say you had two types of blood mixed together. How impossible would it be to seperate them?"
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Lets see what has happened to Rachel first before we go haring off on adventure. Perhaps we should ask Mari about the likelihood of distilling something like dragon blood from a Lamia, you know given we are actual confirmed descendants.
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>>24177883
certainly sister first.
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>>24177904
(it turns out you need an entire Lamia to get a single drop of dragon blood.)
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>>24177868
>That happens anyway Tricia, she likes to use US as battering rams at it.

...that hurt to hear.

Look at Tricia, a little hurt. "Battering rams?"
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>>24177936
Er, Peri and Mari, rather.
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>>24177936
"Battering rams?" You ask Peri and Mari, and little hurt.

"Okay, okay, more like surgical knives...Lea's your battering ram though."

"Alright, out of left field, you said dragon blood was a possible cure. Any chance the recent revelations about my ancestry could be of use here? Is there healing there, not just poison?"

Mari shakes her head. "Nothing that we could get that would even slightly work within three days."

"Worth asking, let's see Quentin's sister. All this effort and I've never even seen the person I'm trying to help!" You say.

The pair nod and soon you're at Cups. Lea and Mage are waiting for you, just outside her room.

"This...is a new one for us in the realm of creepy." Mage says. "Even for us."

"The girl is totally under the...delusions, that happen to people who have been forced to accept the delusion over a short period of time." Lea says. "I tried praying with her but..." Lea shivers.

Mage shakes his head. "She's got it so bad that Lea went a little crazy too. It's like when you tried to talk to the Lightbringers. It's not subtle, so it's obvious that she's off her nut, but it's powerful." He shrugs. "You can go in, but one sign of trouble and we're pulling you out." He's holding up a rope for you to tie around your arm.
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>>24178169
"Alright, I'll see what I can do."
wrap the rope and head in slowly.
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>>24178194
adding a prayer: "May His Light guide those lost in Darkness back to their path."
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Hey, we're part dragon and part Leviathan right? So could we read the book of water?
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>>24178226
probably, we don't really have time though.
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>>24178169
The more I hear about this, the more I see that death would be a favour for everyone. She's mentally broken and we'd be stealing the cure from someone else.

I say we excecute her quietly and privately.
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>>24178219
"Alright, I'll see what I can do." You say as you put the rope on. "May His Light guide those lost in Darkness back to their path."

Roll 1d20
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Rolled 16

>>24178261
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>>24178261
finally a good first roll for anti-happy spell
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>>24178283
dont jinx it!
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/tg/ dice will let laugh at us and give us failing rolls again. No matter what we do to appease them they feed on our tears.
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>>24178272
You feel a little bit of vertigo, but it passes.

Rachel looks like a normal female dwarf, who do NOT have beards, she has light brown hair in multiple braids. She's drawing in a sketch book. She looks up and blinks as she notices you.

"The face and breasts are fine, and so is your neck, and the snake thing is a choice that works for you, but your arms." She frowns. "Hold them out for me, and I'll tell you what's wrong."
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>>24178364
Hold out your arms, I suppose. Let's hear what citadel's fashion sense thinks of us.
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>>24178364
I am fine with the way I look Rachel. I don't need to be altered.
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>>24178364
"Hello Rachel, how are you toady?"
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>>24178416
er, today. fuck. shit.
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>>24178364
"I'm a lamia, Rachel. That 'snake-thing' came with the rest of the package, and I'm rather fond of it."
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>>24178508
this is pretty good.
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>>24178416
"Hello Rachel, how are you today?" You say as you hold out one of your arms.

Rachel starts to scribble and draw. She tears off the page and hands it to you. "This is how your arms SHOULD look. I can make a mold cast for you, and then we'll move onto the generic re-shaping, and then we can talk about the disaster that is your skin.

"I am fine the way I look Rachel." You say, crumpling up the paper. "I don't need to be altered."

Rachel has gone back to her drawing. Looking around the room you see it's littered with page after page of Rachel's drawings. She's very good at it. Drawing people's faces and pointing out what parts of it sag, droop, or have marks.
Then next to the flaws, is a drawing of his it 'should' look. Clean, symmetrical, organized, and an almost plastic beauty.

"I keep telling Jeremy, you need to keep up with the times. Stop breaking my masks, stop messing with the procedures, stop letting my brother talk to me." She mutters. "How am I supposed to make people beautiful if you wont let me do what must be done Jeremy?" She mutters to herself, as if you aren't there. "That is what you want, right Jeremy? No...yes? I see, one moment. I have an idea...yes..." She goes back to scribbling.
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>>24178364
"They look like part of me. If they looked different, they wouldn't be part of me, and that'd be what was wrong."
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>>24178364
Oh I already know what's wrong. Glass scorpion poison, took a crossbow bolt meant for Prince Itzak. You should have seen me before! Still, it's more a mark of my deeds, almost like scars.
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>>24178564
That's actually not a bad angle. Plays to the "storybook" concept that she's stuck on.
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>>24178549
Well, it seems like Jeremy's been doing his best to keep her from going off the deep end.

Good job, Jeremy.

Anyway...Fuck, I have no idea how to deal with this.
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>>24178581
It's also why I don't care too much for 'curing' the rest of the poison. If we can talk the Dragon into giving us it's blood, we should help Helen. No point for us to be vain about the marks of poisons, burns, and blades.
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>>24178549
Tap her lightly with Beacon. "Peace, I name you. Peace, I see your work upon this soul. Peace, In the name of His Light I cast you out!"
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>>24178630
we need to help Mari first, then if there is enough left over we can help others with it.
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>>24178549
>>24178601
We have three approaches to getting through to someone affected like this.

There's the medallion and prayer, which we know won't be enough here, but it's worth doing for whatever effect it might have; perhaps it'll give us a bit of an opening, at least.

There's conversation trying to convince her, which we've gotten reasonably good at, but it won't work if she's not listening.

Then there's conversation trying to play into what she's saying but lead her to a different conclusion; saying things that sound reasonably Citadel but then lead gradually to another conclusion. Might get through more easily, but requires even more careful construction.
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>>24178644
Yup, Mari and Peri get the first dose of it. And the second and third, if that's what it takes.
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>>24178634
That definitely stepped up the directness of our usual prayer; nice! Using Beacon seems like a good plan.

But do we know this is Peace's doing?
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>>24178703
Trivalon said it was.
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>>24178703
Passion said so.
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I figure we can tap her 5 times and use Beacon's light ability to cast away the darkness if need be.
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>>24178714
Oh, sure enough, good catch.

>>24175477
>He shakes his head. "That wasn't me. Peace handled things directly related to Sandover's recruitment. I was told to collect the women, and then I was free to use them as I saw fit. Normally, I don't do as much field work as this. Actually, I usually don't do ANY field work. But we've been a little short handed."

OK, go with
>>24178634
then. It's worth a shot, and at least it might give us an opening so Rachel can hear us even if we can't pull a full Theoden.
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>>24178634
You hold out your hand, and Mage slowly hands you Beacon. (It was considered a good idea NOT to walk into a Citadel Mind-Wipe Zone with weapons.)

"She's not THAT far gone, is she?" Mage asks.

You give him a look as you take the spear and then lightly touch it against Rachel's shoulder.

"Peace, I name you. Peace, I see your work upon this soul. Peace, In the name of His Light I cast you out!"

Mage looks at the scene and then back to the others. They shrug and then he looks back at you.

Roll 1d20
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>>24178739
Or: *Clang* *Clang* *Clang* *Clang* *Clang*
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Rolled 14

>>24178759
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>>24178770
Nice.
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Rolled 11

>>24178759
Oh shit oh shit.
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Rolled 20

>>24178759
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>>24178798
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>24178798
nat 20! Oh how I wish you counted. Oh well, you aren't needed this time.
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>>24178813
Hey, I'm just glad we didn't roll a 1.
Peace: "You rang?"
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>>24178770
Beacon flares brightly. Not crazy bright, but birght enough to make the others outside wince. Then it goes back to normal.

Rachel just keeps on scribbling and writing. Muttering to herself about things like fashion, beauty, and how Jeremy and Quentin are getting in the way of her work.

Mage sticks his head inside. "Did it work?" He asks. "Hey...hold on..." He walks into the room and then out, and then back in. "You got rid of the stuff that was making everyone else crazy, nice sis...is she okay?"
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>>24178919
"I don't know. I don't think so, but at least the aura is gone."
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>>24178919
I don't know. Rachel? Rachel are you there?
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>>24178919
"Well, that's something at least. But Rachel seems the same. Or at least it looks that way.

Rachel? How are you feeling?"
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>>24178919
"She doesn't seem any different."
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>>24178919
"I don't think it did, but at least the aura is no longer a danger to others."

"Perhaps someone else can help snap her out of it, now that the aura is gone."
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>>24178919
Maybe she is just obssessed with her work, it happens. Rachel, dear, we need to talk to you please.
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Hey Echo!

I'm the guy who was compiling the quest into a single text. School has eaten most of my free time, but I have finally made some progress towards getting the text caught up with the Quest.

Two things however.

One, This thing is way bigger than I imagined. Seriously the first section is 7500 words and Nearly twenty pages unedited. assuming the quest wraps up around summer, it may be done by September if I edit it like a book.

Two, I still don't have a way to contact you. Do you have an email your willing to share or something. I just have some ideas for the text and what to do when its a finished product.

I may not be participating, but I am reading.

May His Light be with you!
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>>24178992
(His email is in one of the earlier archived threads)
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Rolled 5

>>24178992

>Implying quest threads ever finish
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>>24179038
which there are 26 and they are spawning with every adventure Ssen has
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>>24178919
Is Ssen decent at drawing? Any of the others?
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>>24178972
"I don't think it did, but at least the aura is no longer a danger to others. That's something at least. But Rachel seems the same. Or at least it looks that way.

"Rachel? How are you feeling?"

"His face is just not right, he either needs to aim to be more masculine, MUCH more masculine, or give up on any pretense of heterosexuality at all. That would take a LOT less work." Rachel says.

"Not this again." Mage groans. He hears the cackling from the hall. "And now Mari/Peri hear it...great. Honestly...why did I think traveling with you was so much better than living with my cannibal family?"

"Perhaps someone else can help snap her out of it, now that the aura is gone."

"Yeah," Mage sighs. "Turns out when Jeremy came to visit, she told the staff to tell her that Quentin told him to stay away, and visa-vera. That's why baldy was so mad at Sandover. So, it's a start."
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>>24179123
Here you go.
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>>24179116
A good quest thread is like a good tv show or movie it realizes when there is no more story to tell and ends when interest is still high and not when the budget, fandom, character have been beaten to death.
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>>24179168
Also, if you were the guy who buzzed me about making a tropes page for this, go nuts. I won't say no.
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>>24179150
"Well, let's get Jeremy AND Quentin. At the same time. She'll never expect them to work together."
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>>24179174
I have an arc planned. Vaguely, because I've given up predicting you people. But don't worry, there's a clear direction, and this ends with awesome and then a nice daww denouement...then you can decide if you want to keep going on Ssen's story or other options.
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>>24179251
I really want to play Ssen's after-citadel adventures. Though I imagine the timescale would be much wider.
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>>24179251
>I have an arc planned. Vaguely, because I've given up predicting you people.
You fake it very well, then. You're clearly playing Xanatos Speed GM.
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>>24179150
Do you think you can despell whatever is affecting her Mage? Now that the aura effect is gone.
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>>24179249
That sounds eminently sensible. And we'd like to talk to both of them, anyway. Plus we need that compass from Quentin.

We also need to talk to Ted in the very near future, and find out if he could get us to Dark Peaks an order of magnitude faster than he said before.
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>>24179333
I doubt Mage is going to feel comfortable doing something like that on a friendly face so soon after de-Occuli-ing an Occuli.
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>>24179249
"Well, let's get Jeremy AND Quentin. At the same time. She'll never expect them to work together."

"Quentin's at his shop," Lea says. "But Jeremy is doing operations until later today."

"Are we still going to let him do that to people?" Tricia asks.

"He didn't pioneer the method, he just made it safer and easily replicable by others." Lea says. "He doesn't abuse it, and we can only stop people from being controlled...not from being foolish. Also, it's not a bad thing if the child has a split lip or pox scars or burn scars."

"I guess, doesn't mean I can't think it isn't weird." Tricia says.
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>>24179363
"Way to many negatives in that sentence."
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>>24179362
that pun was horrible.
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>>24179343
I fail so hard at names today. Sandover.
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Over 300 posts.

Archive, please?
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>>24179493
Par for the course for this quest.

>>24179363
People will do very strange things for their vanity.
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>>24179363
Well, I'd think Lea would know more about this than us, having gone through all those operations. She's right, think of it as stiching up an old wound or something like that.
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>>24179363
"Do you happen to know how much later today, lea?"

I really doubt operation: find cure for vampirism will work. Like, it's not worth the effort of setting out. Especially if ted says we can't.
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>>24179363
I'd rather they go to Sandover than someone without morals. He may work with prostitutes and lepers but he's exactly the sort of man that they need, a true light in a dark place.

The only reason that the Dramatae nearly grabbed him was his idealism. And it might be frightening to admit, but if I didn't know what they really were I would have joined them without reservations.

I probably would have been Obstinance ...
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>>24179629
Tricia would make a good Passion. Mari and Peri have got Comedy down, and Mage can often pull off Tragedy. Lea fits Peace to a tee.
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>>24179629
>I would give anything for 2 minutes in a room alone with the ones who did this
He would have made a good rage.
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>>24179392
"Way too many negatives in that sentence." You say. "Anyway, we'll get them both talking to each other, and we need that compass. Come on."

Quentin is reluctant to come to Sandover's place, but with a few suggestive remarks from Peri that you're there to break down his door and throttle him, he shows up.

Jeremy is able to take a break between a face lift and a nose job. He walks out into his little courtyard, where you, Mage, and Tricia are waiting for the others to arrive with Quentin.

"Here's that compass your brother said you wanted." Jeremy says, handing you the thing. "I like buying nifty little knick-nacks like this at the auction. I put them in display cases in the parlor so people can talk about them and bring up stories about their hobbies. So...is it really a magic compass? I just thought it was a fancy white-gold one that was busted. It doesn't point north at all."

It's actually pointing at your chest at the moment. More specifically the pocket where you have the Lantern Coin.

It's a large hexagon shaped compass, it has three little knobs on the side, and the needle is made out of a familiar looking white metal, there's no compass rose or directional chart, just a series of circles within circles that have strange little markings around them.

You've seen that design before actually. It was on one of the Bear Shine Iron Books. This was written on the pedestal that held the Iron Book of Air.

This must be the writings of the Rocs.
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>>24179538

I apologize for being a whiny faggot, but I just don't want to see this thread 404 suddenly without being archived.
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>>24179687
"Oh, it's magic all right. Too bad I don't quite know how to read it, but it seems fairly self evident."

Put the coin on top of the compass. I wanna see if it spins.
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>>24179687
Sigh. Where's Princess Mumei when you need her?

Hand the compass to Tricia, start slithering away, and ask her to tell you when it points somewhere else.
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>>24179687
>>24179748
"Oh, it's magic all right. Too bad I don't quite know how to read it, but it seems fairly self evident."

You put the coin on top of the compass. The compass spins for a moment, then it pauses spins again the other way, then it stops and points in a single direction that holds steady, like an actual compass should.

"Never it see it to that before." Jeremy says.

"We're here." Lea says, as the other two arrive with Quentin.

"Huh?" Quentin asks. He scowls at the sight of Jeremy. "What's Sandover doing here?"

"I live here?" Jeremy says.

"Paladin Serpent! What's is this? I was told that you had solid evidence against the person who's ruined my sister's life!" Quentin snaps. "Your flunkies said that I could come down here and help met out justice, and now I see him and you...just...standing around with drinks?"

Tricia takes a quiet slurp of her tea.

"I would prefer the term 'accomplices' actually." Peri says.

"Or collaborators." Mari adds.

"What is going on?" Quentin snaps.
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>>24179785
>>24179748
We can do this later. Lets deal with the Rachel problem first
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>>24179871
"Oh, well: Rachel told you and sandover that the other one prevented the prior one from seeing said sister. In short, she was seeing neither of you, and sort of declined in condition. I'm hoping I can surprise her with both of you, visiting together and wishing her the best. Maybe the sight of you two working together would resolve some things.

Oh, and sandover didn't have anything to do with the bit of ceiling that fell on your sister- I have testimony that indicates it was one of a seperate group of masked men."

(It's public knowledge we were attacked by masked men, and we already learned that peace was the one in charge of rachel, so I see no reason not to disclose this fact to the public.)
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>>24179871
Hard as it may be for you to accept this, but Sandover's not the guy responsible for messing with your sister's mind. That would actually be *former* Overseer Trivalon, who is currently incarcerated.

Mostly you're here to help us snap your sister out of it, since it turns out removing the auras was the easy bit.
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>>24179871
"Sandover had nothing to do with what happened to your sister, in fact he has been trying to help her, much as you have."

"Someone else has been pulling the strings, causing 'accidents' at Sandover's and essentially framing him for much that has gone wrong in this area."
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>>24179871
>You put the coin on top of the compass. The compass spins for a moment, then it pauses spins again the other way, then it stops and points in a single direction that holds steady, like an actual compass should.

That's fascinating. What direction? Towards Dark Peaks?

>>24179871
>"What is going on?" Quentin snaps.

Quick prayer with the medallion, since this conversation will touch on Citadel (though not directly).

"Sandover did look like the perfect villain, didn't he? He certainly did to us. Turns out we were played, and so were you, all to set Sandover up for the biggest possible fall. Rachel's "accident" was the same kind of "accident" that this [point to the medallion] is protecting us from, but set up specifically by the same masked sorcerers you saw threaten Lea, Sandover, and myself yesterday."
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>>24180023
Followup: "You said yesterday, Sandover, that you'd give anything for two minutes in a room alone with whoever did this to Rachel, and you were completely sincere. The ones who did this would have loved to give you those two minutes, as long as you really did mean 'anything'."

(This gives us a chance to tell Quentin what Sandover said, which might make him look at Sandover differently.)
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>>24179958
"Oh, well" You take a deep breath and explain. "Rachel told you and Sandover that the other one prevented the prior one from seeing said sister."

There's a pause. Then both men speak:
"What?"

"In short, she was seeing neither of you, and declined in condition. I'm hoping I can surprise her with both of you, visiting together and wishing her the best. Maybe the sight of you two working together would resolve some things.

"Oh, and Sandover didn't have anything to do with the bit of ceiling that fell on your sister- I have testimony that indicates it was one of a group of masked men."

"The ones that attacked us are responsible for Rachel too?" Jeremy asks.

"You actually expect me to believe this?"

"Yes. Someone else has been pulling the strings, causing 'accidents' at Sandover's and essentially framing him for much that has gone wrong in this area."

Quentin shakes his head. "I can't believe that a Patrick can stand in a place like this and say that he's an innocent man."

You take a moment to collect yourself and take a breath. "May evil's eyes see only His Light, may their ears hear only the Teachings." You say.

"Amen." Echoed by the Dawnchasers.

"Sandover did look like the perfect villain, didn't he? He certainly did to us. Turns out we were played, and so were you, all to set Sandover up for the biggest possible fall. Rachel's "accident" was the same kind of "accident" that this is protecting us from." You point to your medallion. "But it was set up specifically by the same masked sorcerers that everyone saw threaten Lea, Sandover, and myself yesterday."

You look at Jeremy. "You said yesterday, Sandover, that you'd give anything for two minutes in a room alone with whoever did this to Rachel, and you were completely sincere. The ones who did this would have loved to give you those two minutes, as long as you really did mean 'anything'."

(More coming)
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>>24180165
"I couldn't have made half of this without Rachel and her help, and I don't like people hurting my people." Sandover says.

"So it IS your fault!" Quentin says. "If Rachel hadn't worked for you, none of this would have happened to her!"

"Don't you talk to me like that Quentin." Jeremy says. "You can have your forge and your pride, but Rachel couldn't live off of that. So I got her to work, and that coin has been keeping her, AND you, fed, clothed, and in your home."

"It's disgusting work, for a disgusting pig!" Quenitn snaps. "You're nothing but a butcher and a pimp, but you have the gall to walk around in that smoking jacket of yours all smiles and kindness like you're...a...a Paladin of culture! Here to help all us short-legs with a leg up. Was she just not good enough for your stable? Was that why you didn't whore her out?"

"I would NEVER whore out ANYONE! My staff don't do a DAMN thing they don't want to, and that INCLUDES overbearing asshole brothers who think they know best. Rachel was happy working with me, and she loved the art!"

"It's crap! Art is a singular expression of the soul! You can't just smash it at the end of every dance."

"Which is why we had that fight!" Jeremy says. "Anyway, I was trying to change...oh never mind, you never listen. There's Quentin's way and then there's the Opposition and since you're so noble with your old faith, and empty forge, and dutiful sacrifice, you can feel vindicated and holy because you're RIGHT! All the while you and your sister starve and freeze."

"Don't. Just don't." Quentin warns.

"What is it Quentin? Second mortgage? Third? Wait, I know...fourth. You want to know why? Because I'M the one co-signed for it! Rachel came to me and BEGGED me to help you not lose your home."

Quentin shakes his head.

"I pulled her up off her knees, and I signed gladly. So you can go ahead and hate my business and me, but don't you dare hate your sister for working here, because with me. You'd be living in a hole!"
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>>24180380
That tore it. The world isn't big enough for the two men's egos. Quentin launches himself at Jeremy. Who at least looked like he was ready for it.

It's not a fight/fight but they're going to get pretty bruised before the adrenaline wears off.
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>>24180410
OK, we know what to do. Bodily separate them. We've got a lot of body to do that with.
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>>24180410
Or better yet, get Rachel to see it and want to do something about it.
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>>24180410
I say let them get it out of their systems. When these two fucking idiots are tired and beaten, we can show them that their state of each is the product of his own wrath.
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>>24180410
slam the butt end of Beacon into the ground loudly, and exclaim in our most intimidating voice

"Stop this Immediately!"

(if someone has something better to shout go ahead)
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>>24180410
If we want to try to stop this with words: "Jeremy! Are you trying to prove that you really are Rage after all?"
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>>24180462
...That's so audacious it'd make Isen do a doubletake. I like it. Retracting my suggestions in favor of this, just because it's so in-character for Ssen.
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>>24180472
its not him that's enraged though, its Quentin.
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>>24180410
>>24180456
I'm in agreement with this. Let them have it for a bit then break them up before it gets too far.
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>>24180504
True; not sure it matters at this point, though.
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Slightly unrelated reminder:

Keep in mind, y'all, we can purge a bubble of Citadel's stupid sauce with a flash from Beacon. That will become extremely useful.
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Let them fight, grab some beers and wait for them to get done, give them the beers and take them to the sister's room.
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>>24180410

Break up the fight. Remind them not-so-gently that we brought them here to SAVE RACHEL. If they're perfectly satsified with taking swings at each others' egos and letting her fester in her madness, then they can go do it in their own time. We brought them here to save her soul; if they refuse, then they're admitting that their egos are more important than saving Rachel.
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>>24180462
I say try this. I want to test our PALADIN SHOUT OF AUTHORITY.

I bet we can get dozens of brian blesseds.
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>>24180410
>after we pry them apart

SILENCE!

Is that what this is about? Yourselves? While Rachel sits over our heads right this moment scribbling away day in and day out, completely under the sway of mind-control magic? Can either of you swallow your own great damned egos long enough to see her? She hasn't seen either of you! At all! So I bring you here thinking you MIGHT just want to help her, Light knows you both said you would do whatever was in your powers to break the hold on her, but it seems that far more important to you than her well being is your own self aggrandizement!

She is SUFFERING and the only two men I can think of who can help her would rather scrabble and claw and hurl insults at each other! Is it really too much to ask that you could cooperate long enough to FIX. RACHEL.
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>>24180462
You wait for a count of ten to let them fight it out a bit. Then you slam the butt end of Beacon into the ground loudly, and exclaim in your most intimidating voice.

"STOP THIS IMMEDIATELY!"

Bronze Peak is within a cave, so there's usually some echo, but NOW you sound like the voice of judgement day.

Both men freeze on the ground and look up at you. The slowly get up from the ground and look at the ground, like two caught school children.

"We brought you here, to SAVE RACHEL. If you're satisfied with swinging at each others' egos and letting her stew in her own madness, fine, but we have other places to be! We are here to help save her soul, so both of you SHUT IT, and GO DOWN to Cups and VISIT HER!"

They both nods. "Yes, you're right." "Rachel...yes, it's about her."

"Now say your sorry." Lea says.

"What?" "No!"

You bang Beacon on the ground again and give them a raised eyebrow.

Both of them turn to each other and shake hands. "Sorry." "Yeah, sorry."
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>>24180690
Man I cannot tell you how much I am giggling over here. The paladin-dissaproval-shout is just so great.
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>>24180690
Yeah, you tell 'em Ssen! No fair fighting like that without giving me a chance to pop some popcorn! OK, you can keep going now.

Wait, where are you going?
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>>24180690
>>24180722
This just made me think of Ssen as a sexy Bishop Mozgus.
Brb gonna go eat a bullet.
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>>24180690
"There. That's better. Now let's hope that the sight of you two together will shock her right out of it."
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>>24180747
citadel plz go
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>>24180690
>"now say your sorry"
literally just stopped laughing a few seconds ago.

"Better, now lets go."
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>>24180796
Likewise. Can't wait to see how the rest of our party reacts.
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>>24180838
We're going to be the best mother.
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>>24180871
"You take your brother out of that bag this instant!"
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>>24180871
>best mother
Hopefully we can raise anything other than a paladin. Don't need a family of paladins. It would drive tricia nuts.
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>>24180924
>spiders in her hat
>talks to bees
>In love with -us-
>implying she't not already batshit insane
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>>24180690
oh, and on the way there

"You know quentin, your work is actually quite good. An inspiration to wield."

Because I've been meaning to tell him it's awesome for a while now, and we have a moment.
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>>24180924

I'm sure that Ssen's offspring will find other things to occupy their time. Perhaps one of them will take after her brother's namesake.
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>>24180871
>>24180909
>>24180924
I am DREADING the "where do babies come from?" question.

How the FUCK would either us or Tricia answer that without confusing the fuck out of the kid?

The stork is the boring, realistic story now.
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>>24181014
When one mommy and another mommy love each other very much, they can pay someone to remove a piece of bone marrow from one mommy and implant it in the uterus of the other mommy.

Can you say "uterus"?
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>>24181014
It's gonna be complicated, let me tell you what.

Our kids won't get it the first time through. Too much science.
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>>24180767
"There. That's better. Now let's hope that the sight of you two together will shock her right out of it."

Lea grabs your elbow. "You actually should check on Ted, if we're going to be trying to leave so early to give Helen any chance of help. He hates the rest of us, so you're the only one who could convince him to speed up."

"She's right." Mage says. "It's just a few minutes out of the way. We'll make sure these two behave."
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>>24181096
Sounds like a plan. But I still don't think we should go anywhere in this city by ourselves.
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>>24181096
I think this is a different type of completely stupid than our normal plans.

Like... the ill advised kind.
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>>24181147
and I mean just the dragon-and-back-in-three-days plan. Not the talking to ted. We'd need to talk to him to do the plan. I'm just... leery.
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>>24181147
I agree. We can wait until after this meeting to light a fire under Ted. For fuck's sake, we just made a primary target of ourselves to the Dramatae.
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>>24181141
Agreed. We move in groups.
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>>24181157
Agreed. Shaving a trip that takes a week and a half one way down to three days round-trip seems par for the improbable course. It's the proximity of the words "dragon" and "blood" that seem less amenable to rushing.

>>24181198
And to anticipate the obvious next question: Tricia.
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>>24181219
Well why not simply refuse to split the party? Lea is right, we need to hurry up and leave sooner, but we're not gonna split up AT ALL just to go tell Ted to hurry.
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>>24181219
also: is it even morally right to GIVE her the dragon blood?

I mean there are probably people out there who were gangbanged by vampires and are now waiting on the cure in vampire gangbang prison.
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>>24181247
I'm tempted to go with that for a different reason: I'd really like to watch Rachel's recovery play out, now that we cowed Quentin and Sandover into helping.
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>>24181141
"Best not to split up with the Dramatae out for blood." You say. "We hang together."

Lea nods. "Right, better idea. Sorry, trying to keep all of the things we need to do straight in our head can cause you to miss some stuff."

"We should get a personal scribe." Mari says. "Someone to write down all of the stuff we do, so we don't forget what kind of heroics we're supposed to do, or danger we're supposed to hurl ourselves towards."

"Too Isen." Peri says.

"Ugh...unclean." Mari groans.

The five/six plus two of you head over to Cups and go to Rachel's room. She's still busy drawing away, trying to adjust the beauty of the world to the maximum as per Citadel's instructions. This time though, she isn't traumatizing the staff by pointing out how they can be better, just making them grumpy with her.

"Rachel?" Quentin says.

"Tell him to go away." Rachel says. "Tell him that Jeremy's here."

"I am here." Sandover says.

"Tell Jeremy to go away." Rachel says. "Tell him that my brother is here."

They both look at you with wide eyes of 'Oh crap, you WEREN'T lying' on their faces. Along with a heavy mix of 'Now what?'
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>>24181247
Doubly agreed.

The Dramatae can pick and choose when and how to strike, so we can't afford to be caught with our compliment down, or even worse allow someone to risk being forced to fight alone.
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>>24181263
Got a suggestion that doesn't seem even more distasteful?
I agree with the point, but from the sounds of
>>24177662
there's no way we can get any kind of just result for her without curing her first.
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>>24181313
Have them both say "I'm here" simultaneously.
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Crazy idea, but what would happen if both Jeremy AND Sandover spoke in perfect unison and declared that they were here?

Although I'm not sure if that would do anything other than confuse her or possibly make her brain asplode.
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>>24181329
I'm anticipating this long, arduous plot arc coming to a close as we cure Helen's vampirism...
and she exasanguinates immediately from her leg stumps.
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>>24181348
>>24181353
Meta.
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>>24181313
"Rachel, they're both here. To see you. They're quite worried."

gesture for them to talk come forth and such. Talk to her and all.
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>>24181353
Either would be a fun reaction.

Or maybe Citadel/the Dramatae still suck at this and there won't be a programmed response, so it'll restart her brain.
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>>24181360
How the fuck is that "meta"?
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Hey if this doesn't work we can still try yelling and screaming about the light casting out peace again.
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>>24181313
The only reason I can think that Peace wanted them both away is that they are the ones that can break her out of this. So tell them to talk to her. Have them both express that this isn't what they want for her. The world doesn't need her to make it beautiful because it already is.
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>>24181399
Yeah, cause that totally un-fucked her brain the first time.
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>>24181358
If it was up to me, we'd execute, or at least madhouse her. We aren't going to change the laws in 3 days, and when we do, we can offer pardons to all the people who are no longer criminals or insane under the law.
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>>24181397
Two posters near-simultaneously (almost certainly without seeing each others' posts) saying that Quentin and Sandover should speak simultaneously.
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>>24181418
It unfucked something, we just gotta do it harder.
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thats not meta, thats hivemind
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>>24181431
Hivemind you derp.
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>>24181416
They've got to get through to her first, but that line of reasoning sounds pretty good.
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>>24181371
"Rachel, they're both here. To see you. They're quite worried."

Rachel pauses in her drawing. "No...that's not how things are. My brother is an artist and Jeremy is a businessman. They cannot get along ever. That is why Jeremy will make money and be rich and happy then he'll die and be hated for what he brought into the world, or even better, totally forgotten, and my brother will suffer and be poor and die in a hole in pain and misery but everyone will remember all of his works forever and he'll be a legend, and no one will ever think of him being anything but wasted glory." Rachel goes back to doodling.

"Quentin's a living suicide note, and Jeremy's a drunken bender. 'You'll be better off without me, but you'll be sorry that I'm gone' and 'Boy that was fun, but now I feel like crap...fuck that guy who bought the last round.' That's what they are. They'd never come together to visit me."

Both men just gape.

"Uhh...I think THIS Sister dear, might actually be a bitch at heart." Tricia says.
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>>24181481
"Well, if you'd look up for a moment from your work, you'd see they're right here in front of you. They made up their differences, out of concern for you.
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Rachel. Look up. Look at them. Together. Here. Your work can wait for a few moments.
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>>24181481
I just had the craziest idea...
"Rachel, who did you get that sketchbook from?"
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>>24181481
I think we might have to use the final resort.

BRIGHTSLAP TIME.
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>>24181481
"I hope that's the crazy talking."
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Huh, good point. If she continues to ignore Quentin and Jeremy then ask that.
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>>24181528

We could try to brightslap the drawing pad out of her hands. No physical harm done to her, might snap her out of her reverie. Or it might send her into a rage.
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(true artist├ęs generally do need agents to help them manage their efforts, but don't mention this quite yet. Rachel first.)
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>>24181481
Take the damn sketchbook
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>>24181481
And lamias can't become paladins, either. Nor can monsters be saved, or dark souls live in the Light.

If you want to tell me anything else I've seen or done is impossible, please do but right now Jeremy and your brother are here and they want to see you.
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>>24181501
"Rachel, who did you get that sketchbook from?"

"I gave it to her." "I gave it to her." Both men say.

"What?" Quentin says. "No, I gave her her first sketchbook."

"Yeah, and she filled it and I bought her a new one." Jeremy says.

"Probably filled it with filth and trash designs. Wasting her talent and resources on that cultureless void you call your parlor."

"It's filled with her work and her living. That's art to me, and I'll have you know that my parlor has great collections and works of art! It's the most cultured place in Bronze Peak!"

"No, the most cultured place in Bronze Peak is the ceiling, but I admit that it any your parlor have the same qualifications, they're filled with mold and slime."

"That mold and slime has kept half of this town running, and healed MANY a good person who would be dead without my work!"

"You WORK is just slapping on a shiny coat of paint to hide the real troubles. Who cares about tomorrow when we can give Sandover a coin and feel good about today?"

"And I take that coin and put it back into the community!"

"And the community rots at your very to-"

"WILL YOU TWO SHUT UP!" Rachel yells. "HONESTLY! Jeremy! Yes, you do good, but your kind of scummy cause it is sex and cosmetic surgery. Accept it. Brother! I don't know WHAT world you live on but in THIS one people need to EAT so SHUT UP about the value of Quicksilver artistry and the importance of time and just FILL the fucking CONTRACTS! You only took that Paladin Serpent's sword because you didn't want to scratch your beautiful quicksilver horde. It does us NOTHING while it's sitting there. USE IT! And Jeremy will you STOP trying so damn hard to be everyone's best fucking friend?! You don't need to be everyone's pal and be endlessly popular to succeed in life! By His Light, WHY am I forced to be forever SHACKLED to you two IDIOTS?! GHAAAAA!" Rachel screams.
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>>24181632
Welcome back Rachel.
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>>24181632
"Progress!"
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>>24181632
"It worked!"
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>>24181632
"Hey! I like her like this a lot more."
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>>24181660
>>24181664
>>24181675
She's back! Oh, I'm so happy for all of you!
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>>24181632
"Well at least we're getting somewhere now."
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>>24181632
Just start undignified laughing, no judgement, just laughing like an idiot starting with uncontrollible giggling.
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>>24181632
Ah, so their pigheaded bickering WAS good for something.
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>>24181704
Best reaction. Genuine, cuts right through the tension, and it *is* the best medicine after all.
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>>24181704
Yeah, sure. We've not done lamialaughter in a while.
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>>24181704
Okay yeah that first.
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>>24181675
>>24181660
"Well, that worked. Welcome back Rachel."

"Yeah, thanks...I think...I'm in Cups for that accident, right?" She pauses and looks at you and then nods. "Yeah...thank you. Seriously. I don't...remember anything, but I remember seeing you and...that light." She sighs and lies back. "Why are my hands covered in ink? Ugh never mind, all Occuli and Paladins out of the room. I need to figure out what's been going on and yell at these two fuck-wits for a while more and I'm going to be using some QUITE dark language if they've been as stupid as I THINK they've been." She narrows her eyes at them. "I've had it up to here, and now we're dead broke and he's about to collapse in on himself from all the stupid stress and problems. I am NOT just letting things go like this any more. I have you both here now, and you two are NOT weaseling yourselves out of this. So I want you OUT Paladin, and watch the door too because THESE two are NOT leaving this time!"

The two men look at you with pleading eyes, begging for mercy and forgiveness. Promising to do anything than to have to stay here. ANYTHING.
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>>24181748
"Well, I hope you three enjoy catching up. I'll be discussing important business with my associates in the hall."

Doff your circlet at them and leave.
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>>24181748
I like how she's so pissed she doesn't even have time to mention or notice we're a lamia.
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>>24181748
"Have fun!"
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Laugh at them. "Some things even a Paladin must bow before. A stern talking to from an irate female is one of them." Then close the door behind you.
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>>24181748
Don't look to me for forgiveness. It's not mine to give.

Then bar the door.
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>>24181748
>The two men look at you with pleading eyes, begging for mercy and forgiveness. Promising to do anything than to have to stay here. ANYTHING.

Sorry, even a Paladin isn't that merciful. She's got you two pegged, and you both could do with the rant you're about to get better than Paladin Diplomacy Ssen could offer.
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>>24181748
I think this is the point where we leave all while sssssnickering to our self. "Contact me when you've caught up." between fits.

We should probably tell Balles what we have of the situation so far. Get his take. That or talk to Tallow, he might be interested in our little victory.
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>>24181806
I don't think we're ready to talk to Balles. He'd want to know what we know about Helen so far, and what we know so far is enough to damn her but not to save her.

Tallow might prove useful and fun to talk to, but I think we need to talk to Ted first.
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>>24181790
"Some things even a Paladin must bow before." You say to Rachel, tipping your circlet at her.

You look at the other two. "Don't look to me for forgiveness. It's not mine to give."

"Well, I hope you three enjoy catching up. I'll be discussing important business with my associates in the hall."

You and the other Dawnchasers leave, laughing.

You do hang around a bit, just to make sure that the two men don't try to storm off. Quentin does actually try it once, but he opens the door and has to look up into your face, and he reverses his pace and goes back inside.

At a moment, Rachel yells for you to come inside. You open the door and she points at Jeremy, the man has obviously gone down into 'shut down' mode and not looking or talking to anyone, but a glare from you and he is dragged back into reality. Rachel gives you leave and you even give the girl a little bow as you head out.

Mage lets out a low whistle. "How long has THAT been building up in her? No wonder the Dramatae wanted her out of the way."

"Also it makes their targets for manipulation very easy to see." Lea says. "Those that are too proud end up wrapped in their own misery, and those who try to be liked by everyone end up swallowed by Citadel. Sandover was just smarter than the others what with his surgical cups training and business sense. He would be perfect, and by the time he'd realize what kind of people the Dramatae were...he'd be too far gone to turn back."

"And people with sense in their heads, Citadel or the Dramatae just try to take out or make them go super loopy." Tricia says. "So...how is Isen still immune?"

"Cause he's got a massive ego that's convinced that everyone already loves him." Mari says. "He's Citadel's perfect end result gone horribly wrong." She laughs.

"So, where to next, once this is done with?" Tricia asks.
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>>24181748
If she picks up anything sharp or heavy, I'll be right outside the door.
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>>24181921
"I suppose we should ask ted just HOW impossible a 3 day round trip to the mountain site would be. "

If it's impossible enough, we can discount it.
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Well, since we have about two days left I think its time to start planning our trip into the Dark Peaks. But first we need to arrange with Sandover Helen's stay at the asylum as well as an official report of what we found for if we don't get back in time. Then we need to talk to Tallow about how to use this compass. We're ALSO going to need Nightmare and that travel spell in order to make this fit, and I have no idea if Ted will be able to keep up that kind of pace.
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>>24181921
"To see Balles, and update us on what we found out about Helen."

"Perhaps we could get an extension, considering the majority of the crimes where done while she was under the control of the Overseer, and we cannot confirm that she knowingly accepted the vampirism, or if she was tricked into it."
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>>24182004
But if it's just a little impossible, we could at least try.
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>>24182004
Sadly, I'm starting to think axing Helen might be the humane option, because when you think about it, what does she have to look forward to even if we cured her? She's lost a leg, has no friends or family or job, and no skills other than looking pretty.
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>>24182031
bah my typing has gone to hell

change "us" to "him"
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dragon's blood can probably cure missing legs as well as vampirism.
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oh wait we're forgetting something rather important. What the hell are we going to trade to the Old One for a) his horde b) his blood and c) not adding US to his horde.
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>>24182060
Lets see what his disposition is before that. If we can find him.
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the problem is its a one way trip, we gotta have the stuff on us in order to make any sorta deal. I bet hes like RObin and doesn't take IOUs

Also forgot to mention d) information (bonds, Citadel, etc)
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>>24182060
I'm not forgetting. That's why I've been saying this vampire-cure plan is both infeasible and immoral, given the cost of a dragon trade, and the semi-voluntary nature of her infection. Does my argument carry more weight now, given the evidence? I hate to just be repeating.
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>>24182060
we dont want to take his hoard, but we do need to find something to trade for the blood.

ooh take the Lust Mace with us to trade him.
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>>24182004
"I suppose we should ask Ted just HOW impossible a 3 day round trip to the mountain site would be." You say. "Then we need to talk to Tallow about the compass, see if we can use Lightmare, or go hitch up King Ceasar again, see if that will work. That's all after we make sure with Balles and Sandover that Helen just gets sent to an asylum if we don't get back in time."

"So Ted's first, just to check on him quickly, then the bad news with Balles. Right?"

"Yeah." You say.

Once you see two very brow-breaten, but back upon the Path, men on their way home. You swing by Crazy Ted's. The door is open a little, judging by the amount of stuff that was inside the house that's now on the lawn, and the stuffed raccoon holding the door open, it's probably just Ted moving things around to get ready for the big trip.

You don't see him right away though.

Roll 1d20
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Rolled 5

>>24182096
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>>24182093
Yeah, a gift from the new Shadow Dragon. He'll take that well.
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>>24182093
Hello, the coins that in the hoard we kinda want?
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Rolled 10

>>24182096
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Rolled 16

>>24182096
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*sigh* dice are not my friend
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>>24182121
They never have been.
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>>24182106
Ow! Damnit...you snagged yourself on a stuck up nail in the floor. You tore a scale and a little blood. Nothing seriously, but of course, the ONE upright nail in this entire floor and you had to get poked by it.

"Ted? Hello?" Peri asks.

"Think I know where he went." Tricia says. She points to the kitchen area where there's a stove, a kettle and stuff for tea, but an empty bottle of milk. "We must have just missed him."
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>>24182084
wut? We have favors we can call in. Rachel's recovery might be worth some of Quentin's quicksilver horde. Sandover has all those trinkets. Hell, we have access to at least 1 of the Bear Tribe's history books, maybe two if our leviathan heritage allows us to access the book of water. Allowing him to make a copy of that might be worth it to him. (Not give since it belongs in the shrine)
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>>24182149
collect that blood, and scale I don't trust leaving it.
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>>24182152
This is a dragon we're talking about. Let me say this again. A dragon. He will want the book not a copy.
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>>24182149
And suddenly we catch our death from the torn scale, or the blood summons demons to kill Ted.
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>>24182158
Agreed with this.
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>>24182108
if it is an actual gift from the Dragon of Shadow, and not just a normal magical weapon(like Tricia's sickle, or Mages Staff of Fell Hind).

>>24182109
true, if they are Pure, and not like the ones we encountered so far.
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>>24182152
Yes, but depending on the perishability of the dragon's blood, there are innumerable people who may deserve it more.

"universal cure" is not to be taken lightly.
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>>24182166
Boating accident.
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>>24182178
Yep and we're not in charge of who gets this cure either nor should we damned it to be used on someone we know just because we want to save her. Hell, there's a chance she still isn't as innocent as people think she is.
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>>24182149
So uh, did he just leave for the dragon lair without us, or is he just on a literal milk run?
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>>24182166
we could try claiming it as part of /our/ hoard to keep him from claiming it
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>>24182204
Knowing this world ... who knows. For all we know he fell into a magically black hole.
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>>24182193
In the balls ass frozen mountains.
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>>24182204
literal milk run.
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>>24182212
>Dragons
>respecting others 'hoards'

I find that hard to believe truthfully.
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>>24182149
Find him via snake tongue.
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>>24182204
The nail injected poison into us. Ted want us to be a sacrifice to his new boss.
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>>24182204
"I think he'll be back in a few minutes." Lea says. "Ted's a jerk, but he's not fool enough to start up a kettle without planning to come back for it." She sniffs the tea. "Ooh, nice blend."

"Oh, come here." Tricia says. Getting out a bandage and a silkworm friend. "Clumsy." She smiles as she steps up to you to patch up your wound.

Roll 1d20
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Rolled 5

>>24182254
!
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Rolled 12

>>24182254
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>>24182259
Really?
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>>24182149
>nicked by a nail
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>>24182149
TO THE GOAT TOWER!

"Well, only place I know around here to get milk is that goat tower ted mentioned."
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>>24182259
Wow srsly? This scratch is going to kill us at this rate.
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>>24182254
>As punishment for using both our rerolls for a good ending we now have to watch as everything nicks and cuts us.
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>>24182259
Hoooooooray! Tetanus!
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>>24182259
Tricia patches you up good as she can, and with a kiss for good luck.

In a few moments, Ted indeed comes back with a bottle of milk, and a very startled expression to see you all inside his house.

"Guh! Ugh...teach me to leave the door open, sooner I am free of this place the better." He says as he starts up his kettle, deliberately only getting ONE mug out. "Now, what do you need with me, 'Beautiful One?' " He says with a smirk...you really shouldn't have let that bit about 'this mistake doing what they could' slip. He's been studying Dragons for 80 years or so, longer if his parents were Servants too. You just confirmed a suspicion that being a Beautiful One is an insult...and by His Light can this prick make it sound like one.
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>>24182298
>Snake
>Lockjaw

So pathetic.
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>>24182311
You know, a little lamia poison and we could remove his ability to smirk all together.
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Rolled 8

>>24182311
This better just be the sort of trick I play on my players where I make them roll for things randomly and never tell them what they're rolling for.

Because seriously. Fuck /tg/ dice.
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>>24182311
"Oh, I just wanted to ask you how impossible it would be to get up and down the mountain in three days."
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Might as well be blunt
We're planning on making that 3 week round trip to visit you new master (if he takes you in) in 2 days. We need to know how soon you can be ready. We have the compass by the way.
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>>24182347
Nah man we just contracted Tetanus. And failed the fort save too.
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>>24182368
Citadels 'Little Accidents' have begun.
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>>24182362
"We're planning on making that 3 week round trip to visit you new master, provided that he takes you in, in 2 days. We need to know how soon you can be ready. We have the compass by the way. if that helps."

"2 days...you mean get there in one day, and come back, in one day?" He snorts and shakes his head. "Yeah, no. No chance in all the skies. So sorry to be the bearer of bad news." He says with a smug face. "Anything else?"
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we have access to a nightmare who reached bronze peak from stone hall in a day.
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>>24182397
"Yeah, try not to cut yourself on that nail over there. It has our very deadly blood on it. You're skeleton will literally turn to mush if it gets inside you."
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>>24182406
Cant ride a wagon around the peaks if I remember correctly.
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>>24182414
I swear I thought you were going to say "Try not to cut yourself on that edge."
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>>24182414
That would be SOOOOO fucking hilarious.
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>>24182414
"Yeah, try not to cut yourself on that nail over there. It has our very deadly blood on it. You're skeleton will literally turn to mush if it gets inside you."

"I'll keep an eye out for it. But thanks, I'll want to make the place look nice when I sell it." He nods indicating that your time is up and you all should leave now.

Sighing, accepting the fact that not all of your allies can be decent people, some of them can be selfish, elitist, Dragon-cock-sucking, fucking shit heads. Your group walks towards the door.

"I'll let you know when I have everything ready to go, glad you got the compass...and you still have the book right? Great, well...good seeing you!" He actually waves as the others walk past him and you slither by with your tail 'clumsily' getting in the way of a few things.

Roll 1d20
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we can hitch a dog sled then, three can ride on nightmare and 3 on the sled. since the travel spell DOES increase size of the animal.
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>>24182397
Keep that smug look on your face and I'm gonna eat you.
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Rolled 18

>>24182458
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Rolled 11

>>24182458
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yus.
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>>24182467
Booyah
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>>24182467
>Redaeth rolled well
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>>24182467
And here is the silly roll that doesnt matter.
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you should have seen me in at the start, I was rolling 20s!

Then my luck bombed.
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>>24182467
>inb4 we wanted low rolls for these events
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nah these are perception rolls, something is amiss
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>>24182467
Your tail 'accidentally' knocks over Ted's cup of water that he had gotten out. (Annoying and a pain in the ass, but doesn't stain and isn't instantly replaceable, probably one of the only passive-agressive Paladin fuck-yous that would pass in His Light) The water spills all over the floor...except in one area. Along the board with that loathesome loose nail, the water pours down through a crack...and when you look at the crack, you can see light below.

Ted's house doesn't have a basement or anything like that. Who needs one in Bronze Hall?
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>>24182531
"Ted, are you aware you have what appears to be a spy-hole in your floor?"

Obviously he should be alerted to this shocking discovery.
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Investigation time.

I just had an ugly thought. The Dramatae said there were multiple Passions. What would be better then a dragon servant whose dragons go corrupt?
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>>24182531
WELP!

So whats down below?
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>>24182531
"WHAT'S IN THE BOX, TED!?"
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>>24182552
"Ted, are you aware you have what appears to be a spy-hole in your floor?"

"Uhh..." He swallows and looks incredibly guilty.

"What's in the box, Ted?" You ask.

"I...use it for...potato storage?" He says.
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>>24182628
Yeah no.
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>>24182628
"I can /taste/ your lie Ted."
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>>24182628
Ted you are aware I'm going to have to insist I see what is down there.
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>>24182628
"Hahaha. Funny man he is. "

Tail smash the floor open.
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>>24182628
If you didn't look so guilty I wouldn't be taking a look.
This better be an upskirt photo box Ted.
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>>24182628
"Ted. Do you know what the penalty is for intentionally misleading a Paladin of the Light is?"
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>>24182628
You are a really bad liar Ted.
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I don't think anyone here wears skirts.

Except for Tricia. *Ugly Face*

(and mage)
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>>24182628
There's something hilarious about how we talk to Ted. I think it's his name itself. It's just such a normal, modern sounding name to be using in a Fantasy, even a screwy, subversive, proper decontruction of fantasy like Lamia Quest.
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>>24182628
"...Am I going to be angry?"
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>>24182683
You wouldn;t like me when I'm angry

(couldn't resist)
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>>24182644
"I can /taste/ your lie Ted. You are aware I'm going to have to insist I see what is down there." You say.

Ted rallied and stands firm. "And I am going to have to refuse you, Paladin...you have...you have no cause! I cite Conclave law...you're just one Paladin. I can say no."

"He's right," Mari says. "Then of course, you can go get Balles, and his Occuli and bring them down here. Then with two Paladins from different branches, you'll HAVE to show us, and don't worry Ted." She winks. "We'll stay here to make sure that nothing bad happens while Ssen gets ALL those people down here."

Ted blanches. "Ummm, I...uhhh..." He's standing on top of where the door in the floor is, and it looks like his plan is to just stand there until someone makes him move.
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>>24182705
Welp, lets go get Ballin' Balles.
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>>24182705
pick him up like a naughty child and set him aside.
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>>24182705
"Ted, I'll be nice and ask this once but only once. Move."
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>>24182705
"It's that embarrasssing, huh?"
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>>24182705
"If you weren't so hesitant about showing me I wouldn't have cared, Ted. Have you been naughty?"
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>>24182705
"Ted. Come on now. Don't make me tie you to the Lightmare and have it drag you through the streets. He's a fast one, Lightmare."
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>>24182705
"I see where this is going. Lea, kindly drag our friend off of the hidden Trap door. Please try to avoid any broken bones. Try."
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>>24182725
This brings up a good point. Echo, compared to an average human, how strong is our body (the human parts) in general?
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honestly? I can't imagine us being TOO strong, thats a naga, but certainly stronger then the average human.
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It's his stash of ancient lamia smut
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>>24182705
>>24182705
Ted, I want to be as nice as possible about this. I can go look by myself, and if I see nothing crossing any moral lines I can make it as confidential as a confession.

Keep in mind that I'm not your average Paladin. I DID stay overnight in a brothel.
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I imagine its Whitefire's old horde.
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>>24182801
Stupid sexy Lamias
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Ted, if we're going to be working together you can't keep obvious secrets from me, what if your working with the masked dudes and they're in your little hidey hole.
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>>24182801
>>24182819
Lamia smut and bottles of snake oil
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>>24182726
"Ted, I'll be nice and ask this once but only once."

<Move.> You snap.

It's pretty much engraved in his soul, when ordered in that tongue, he HAS to move. Normally he can refuse because you're a Beautiful One, but now...well...now you're more of a Dragon than anything else.

Tricia opens the trapdoor and reveals a short little ladder to a larger room below.

"Lea, keep our friend still, please try to avoid any broken bones. Try."

"Understood." Lea says with a smile present in her eyes.

Peri goes down and looks. After a moment..."Ssen! You're going to want to see this. Bring Mage!"

Mage jumps down and you carefully make your way down into the room.

Ted's got a nice little set up here. Supplies, travel clothes, food, and everything else a person needs for a trip to the Dark Peaks. There's also a map, made today, that details how to get from the City down into Dark Peaks and to the Blood Blossom lair.

There's a set of forged keys that go to the Occuli emergency mountain rescue forces, specifically the ones that unlock the dog-sleds.

A guide on how to harness pigs.

A large three-ring VERY intricate magical circle chalked into the ground with FIVE focus stones set into it. Mage is looking it over.

And...of course, the centerpiece of the whole this is 'TED'S PLAN' tacked to the wall. Apparently Ted had to spend a bit writing down this plan of his to iron out the bugs. This is it.

Step 1: Take Dog Sled

Step 2: Hitch King Ceasar to Sled

Step 3: Go very very very fast through Dark Peaks. DANGEROUS!! BUT WILL PREVAIL! (He's put a little skull and crossbones here for dramatic effect)

Step 4: FIND MASTER AND PLEDGE ENDLESS SERVICE! (Picture of Stick Figure Ted bowing to a crude drawing of a dragon)

Step 5: Teleport home using magic circle! (Added stars and lightning bolts)

Step 6: Trick stupid humans and beautiful one to giving me the Compass, Book, and anything else Master Wants. Best to make them think I still 'need' it for journey.

(More coming)
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>>24182801
>>24182819
>>24182839
Better not let Tricia see it.
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>>24182872
He reminds me of an underpants gnome.

Or a kobold really.
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>>24182893
Kobold. Definitely a Kolold.
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>>24182872
There's some lovely stick figures with derp faces and one with no legs but a squiggly tail and large boobs, and a tongue sticking out of her derp face.

Step 7: Use Circle to return to Master.

Step 8: Rule with Master for rest of life! (Ask if Master wants to bond...maybe wait decade or two before)

There's also a sack filled with trinkets, toys, old gold coins, some books that you think belong in a conclave, basically a sack filled with little things Ted's filched over the years to serve as Dragon Tribute.

"This thing would work." Mage says. "You'd need to take the stones with you...and it's a one person ride...but this is all sound stuff. Once you set up the second circle, it's possible to jump between them, crazy risky and certainly big chance of arriving with your stomach on the outside, but it would work."

"So..." Peri asks. "How bad are we hurting Teddy for this?"
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>>24182872
"Dang ted, I'm impressed! A bit dissapointed, but impressed."
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>>24182910
>Get it right first time
>Get it wrong second time

Yeah typos woo ...
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>>24182913
"I was really hoping this was just a porn stash."
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>>24182915
>>24182910
I didn't notice until you pointed it out. then i lold
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>>24182913
There's only one punishment for this betrayal of trust.

I'm going to have to give him A Talk.
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>>24182913
You check the map. Yeah...it's a little of an insanely dangerous route, but with a hooked up sled...you could make it in three days. Maybe even two if you used Mage's spell and didn't care about the lives of the dogs too much. Ted had planned on clearing it in three or four, but...yeah...you could do it. Get there, and make the circle, and then come back here...you could do it.

The odds of you dying are CRAZY high in EVERY aspect...but you could do it.
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>>24182913
"I'm thinking, Peri, I'm thinking."

Go back up.

"Ted I would like to thank you for /volunteering/ giving us all that lovely stuff down there. Your large /donation/ will be noted. Truly, thank you from the bottom of my heart."
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>>24182945
>I'm going to give him A Talk
Oh no not A Talk. He can't take it.
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>>24182964
and by "oh no" I mean "do this".
>>24182945
this.
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>>24182940
I will always call out my own fuck ups. Always.
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>>24182961
"You realize you're going to have to give me a very good reason not to place you under house arrest. And by House Arrest I mean pin you to the ceiling."
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>>24182819
You mean stupid sexy chocolate Lamias
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>>24182953
son of a bitch, and when we dont have any rerolls left too.

>>24182961
this would be fitting.
and if he gives lip, bring up the various crimes he committed by both lying to, and plotting to betray a Paladin.
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Well, since he did give us this nice map, and a way to help Helen. Not too much. But for his sins he gets to stay here while we go visit the Old One before him. I'll have Balles hold him for conspiracy to commit theft until we get back. He'll have to live with the introduction we give the Old One when making his debut.

A far more fitting punishment I think.

Also read over those books, if they are stolen we give them back.

In fact I bet all this stuff is stolen. Have Mage and Mari look it over for magic.
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so thats a no on using Lightmare at all? I mean he rode down a landslide when we first encountered him. I can't imagine this would be too dificult
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>>24182953
Call Ted down here, tell him our idea. See if he can help us come up with something better.

Make no mention of all the other stuff in the room. As the others go over it. If they want to bring our attention to other plans he had to backstab us, give them a quick look and say "That's nice." before turning back to our Very Important talk with Ted about how fast we can pull this off.
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>>24182945
Time for the punishment bag.
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>>24183022
Lightmare and King Caeser racing team.

Both hasted. Because this isn't nearly perilous enough for the Caligo Clarus.
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>>24182961
"I'm thinking, Peri, I'm thinking." You say as you help yourself up. "Now, Ted I would like to thank you for /volunteering/ giving us all that lovely stuff down there. Your large /donation/ will be noted. Truly, thank you from the bottom of my heart."

Ted opens his mouth to shout at you, but you slide up close to him. "You realize you're going to have to give me a very good reason not to place you under house arrest. And by House Arrest I mean pin you to the ceiling."

Ted swallows. "Uhh, by all means. Take my..." He swallows. "Donations."

You smile brightly. "Good! Now..." You nod and Lea grabs him by the collar. "You're going to come down here and show us EXACTLY how we're going to get to the Old One and back in two days...and then MAYBE we'll let you tag along."

And be it never said I never gave you guys chances to do what you wanted. If you ailed that last spot check, then you'd have to kill/incarcerate Helen. But /tg/ dice apparently like drama. That said, calling it a night for tonight, as I have to work tomorrow. Also, there wont BE a quest tomorrow, sadly. Next thread will be on Friday 4-12-13, 7-9pm PST. Please archive this, hope to see you again, and May His Light be with you all.
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>>24183094
Oh, Ted...
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>>24183094
Don't worry echo, /tg/ dice are plotting to kill us as always.

The route we are going on is both extremely deadly AND possibly entirely unnecessary! two for two!

See you friday.
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>>24183094
Goodnight, sweet prince.
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>>24183094
Two days to get to a dragon and back in time to cure a woman of vampirism.
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>>24183094
Night Echo, see you Friday night.

and I fully expect /tg/ dice to strike with a vengeance on our extremely dangerous breakneck speed path to the lair.
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>>24183141
or when we're convincing the dragon to give us some BLOOD.

goddamnit.

this is just awful.
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>>24183155
at least we now have some tribute
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>>24183160
>>24183160
Who knows we might not even need to give it all!

...

Who am I kidding it's a damn dragon.
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>>24183160
Let's make sure to attempt to dilute the fuck out of a drop of dragon blood, if we happen to get any.

see exactly how much universal cure it takes to universally cure a vampire.
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>>24183160
>>24183191
and to further complicate things, the dragon might just straight up take us as his slave.
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>>24183202
And then Tricia goes full crazy lover and kills the dragon.
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Echo just called us more dragon then lamia. We just took Ted's tribute to his new master. I wonder how much of a stretch this loon will take to decide we are his new master if the Old One rejects him.
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dragon fleas
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>>24183222
Oh god. Please let the Old One take him. Please.
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>>24183234
Eh, it wouldn't be so bad. Though I feel bad about denying ted his life dream.
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>>24183253
I'm sure that we could put him to good servant use. We always need more helpers to support our insane plans.
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>>24183277
speaking of, we should really start paying our cadre. We equip them, yeah, but not really pay them. They totally deserve it.
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>>24183293
Well if the dragon doesn't take all the wealth we just gained here. At least we know where that pay will be coming from.
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don't we also have some paladin's stipend coming up?
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>>24183328
That's like once every two weeks. I think we already picked it up or we asked for it, I can't recall right now.
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>>24183328
>>24183319
I meant pay out of the stipend.

Like, we dedicate a fraction of all future stipends to giving our friends some pocket change.

The bi-weekly stipend is 500 gold. If we gave each of our members 15 gold a day, and paid for all their expenses, they would have a very competitive payscheme compared to citadel farmers. I don't want to leave our friends destitute when we die.
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we asked for it, we haven't actually picked it up. Things escalated rather quickly
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>>24183345
Also, how do we determine payscale for peri/meri?
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>>24183375
We're basically one big, weird family. I say we simply pool resources and everyone gets what they need.
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>>24183411
Eh, I'd still like our friends to be able to go out and buy, like, some cakes or something without our permission.
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>>24183492
How about 60% goes to the party account and the other 40% is divided between the individual members. That would give everyone 40 personal gold every two weeks, assuming we count Peri/Mari as one, and leave 300 gold for the party. As often as we stay at Travellors, that leaves about 200 party gold not earmarked. If the party ever breaks, we split the party gold by how many members are still alive.



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