You are Ssen, a Lamia raised by a human Paladin who adopted you after killing the ones who birthed you. You are grown now, and Father has passed on. After a great deal of work, you have become a Paladin like your Father, and now take up his duties. You are accompanied by your best friend from childhood, the insect druid Tricia; Mage, a magic user who ran away from his family of cannibal raiders known as the Ghouls (Yes, his name is Mage. It was his idea); Persephone, a 22-year old thief/ex-guerllia fighter (She goes by Peri), and Mari, a 13-year old prodigy scholar/now sniper, who has her mind and soul trapped within Peri's body; and Lea, a deeply religious musician/martial artist, trained by her father, a famous trainer for arena fighters, she's covered from her mouth down in bandages to hide the horrific state her body has become thanks to the 'cures' that saved her from cancer.Your journey continues...( Opening theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvZgKRAacFc )http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Lamia%20Quest1d4 chan page: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest:Lamia_Daughter_Quest
"I'm fine with those terms. I'm not expecting a miracle here, and I would not be surprised if she DID become a vampire out of her own free will - but there's something seriously fucked up going on around here, and I'm going to get to the bottom of it. If not, well... I guess I wouldn't want someone else to carry out the execution." You say.Okay, so do you want to snoop around the Bear Shrine Library or just head back to Bronze Peak? Your three days start tomorrow, but the trip back will use up nearly all of the day, you'll be able to maybe visit one person or place and just briefly.If you want to stay you can, and leave early and arrive at Bronze Peak early enough to have a full day of work.
>>24158237http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23858749/#p23864811> "Also, here...this is something we retrieved from Lady Glenn's apartments, after the watch searched it." It's an old journal, it's written in code...more importantly embossed on the leather cover are the Dramatae masks.I don't think we ever decoded it. Do we still have it with us, I hope?I'd suggest we stay and investigate the Bear Shrine, and aim to get back to Bronze Peak by tomorrow morning.
We only lose a single interrogation by staying here?Can we read the book on the way?
>>24158280Peri/Mari tried working on the journal for a bit, and then they gave up and got distracted with stuff like the Underwasp Witch and then Donovan.Either way, it's something that needs a cipher. There's barely any chance to crack it solo.
>>24158309>We only lose a single interrogation by staying here?Yes, but you could also get to Sandover's place BEFORE news arrives.>Can we read the book on the way?You can certainly try.
good timing the thread just died.darn priorities should go towards Sandover, though if we should spend the rest of the day here and leave early tomorrow we could research the Dragon Book, pre-citadel Times. The first Lightbringer etc.
>>24158360can we have the news of the arrests suppressed or delayed, and have it be said the book was not recovered?
>>24158237A few points of investigation:Let's talk to Ted about the book. Why was he so paranoid about it, including about Balles knowing about it? Any chance it's in lizard or dragon and we can read it? Failing that, can Ted read it?What do the other three books look like (without touching their cages or pedestals)? What does the indentation that wants a circular key look like? Not like any of our medallions, I assume?What does the outside of the red dragon book look like, apart from red?>>24158337Fair enough; hopefully we'll get more information as we look into Lady Glenn, Sandover, Lord Holting, and that whole mess.>>24158360That'd require us to beat Balles back to town, right? Which I suppose we could do, hastily, and/or by using Ted's trail (presumably the Occuli used the Conclave trail).
>>24158360>Yes, but you could also get to Sandover's place BEFORE news arrives.That is a good idea. Let's roll, hoopsnake style!
alright I vote trying to read the book on the way back and surprising Sandover with a full blown Paladin investigation.
>>24158360Let's go right away then. We should be able to walk'n'read. We probably won't trip, being not-actually-walkers.
>>24158360>Yes, but you could also get to Sandover's place BEFORE news arrives.As much as I want to stay at the Bear Shrine we really should get a jump on him, if he is involved at all.
>>24158409Balles can keep exact details about what happened quiet, the whos, and the whats, but he wont be able to keep Occuli from talking and gossip, not to mention bringing in a bunch of people into Cups. News will spread that there was an attack at the Bear Shrine, and that the Paladin Serpent won.
>>24158402We definitely have time to do that after we resolve time-sensitive stuff; not like the Bear Shrine will disappear after we leave (I hope).>>24158360If we did, say, 10-20 minutes worth of investigation, could we still beat the news back to town?
>>24158448I was thinking more along the lines of he does that, but says a valulable book was taken from the shrine, and remains outside the shrine.a technicality, in that We took the book, but would leave the sense that we did not stop the theft.
>>24158452Basically what's happening is that you're riding back with Balles on the emergency dog sleds down the Conclave trail. You'll be able to get back to Bronze Peak and get to Sandover house before anyone knows what happened.Ted cannot read the book. Human eyes can't.The other three books are actually labeled. The Iron Book of Sky, the Iron Book of Water, the Iron Book of Earth.You have the Iron Book of Dragons...but you could also read it as the Iron Book of Fire. Same word in Bear Tongue. It has a thick red leather cover of iron plates. There's a carving of a dragon on the iron cover. The inside plates have letters etched into the plates and the etchings were filled with gold.
>>24158545So, Balles is leaving right away, if we want to stay and investigate at all we can't go with him, and if we don't leave with him there's no way we can beat them back to town?Fine, then I guess we're going back to town and coming back later.
>>24158545If we are starting votes, then I vote sledride. We get to surprise sandover! And also maybe read a book a bit!Ask ted if he's seen enough of the library, or if he'd like to join us on our next trip. We did sort of say he could.
>>24158545>Ted cannot read the book. Human eyes can't.Interesting choice of wording. Can Lamia eyes?
>>24158545I say we go back immediately, we can come back to the Bear Shrine at a later time.
>>24158592I'm beginning to think that lamia may technically be a subspecies or offshoot of dragon kind.
>>24158637Dragons. Fuck. Everything.
>>24158637Some kind of biological connection was definitely implied there:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23768347/#p23769801>oh yes, you can't breed with humans. It's lamias, nagas, lizard people only...maybe dragons, but you'd have to find one first.
>>24158637I am certain we are, considering dragon bites are also venomous, and one of the few we have no resistance to.also we can breed with a dragon, unlike humans.
>>24158545Oh just so you know. Air = Rocs, Water = Leviathans, Earth = Trolls.You know, just the three other most well known legendary monsters.You CAN read the book on the ride back to Bronze Peak.Ted doesn't care about the Library. He wants the Dragon book.
>>24158545So the pages are made of Iron and the Ink is made of Gold.How in the fuck are we carrying this thing?And who are we going to beat the shit out with it?
>>24158673>You CAN read the book on the ride back to Bronze Peak.If it doesn't hinder our progress on the way to Bronze Peak, I say read it.
>>24158678We could read it to Ted and whoever else from our group is up for story time. Any interruptions and met with a swift thwap.
>>24158678>who are we going to beat the shit out of with it?Sandover.>How are we carrying it?A naga weights like 800 pounds.
>>24158545>Basically what's happening is that you're riding back with Balles on the emergency dog sleds down the Conclave trail. You'll be able to get back to Bronze Peak and get to Sandover house before anyone knows what happened.Given that there are multiple sleds, any chance we can end up sufficiently separated from Balles and the rest that we can talk more or less privately to our party and Ted?
>>24158678It's about as big as a kindle and it has eight slabs inside double sided. It's heavy, but a person can carry it.
>>24158708I don't mind reading it to them. It's not like it's a secret of the state.
>>24158673read the book, but no matter what Ted does not get it, as I highly doubt he would give it back, and that would break our worth that we would return it.
>>24158767we told ted we would destroy it if it contained anything harmful.We may have told two bits of word that are mutuall incompatable.
>>24158767Okay, you can have one other person on the sled with you. (You kind of take up a lot of room, apart from the occuli driver. If you talk low he wont be able to hear you.)
>>24158790We can discretely tear out the dangerous pages if we have to..I thik we can anyway..how thin are these Iron Pages?
>>24158810Argh. OK, is there anyone who we could get *more* information out of than Ted on the trip back?And are we close enough to any other sleds that we can talk to the people on them, assuming we don't mind others overhearing?>>24158826The whole book has eight. I think people would notice an eighth of the book missing.
>>24158810>choose: TRICIA OR TEDgoddarn echo. What's with the hard choices every thread.
>>24158790we made no such promise to destroy it, we said we would decide what to do with it afterwords."That's not your call, Ted. I'll decide if the book is worth preserving or not. That book has important information that I need Ted, and if you want to find your new master you'll need to take a look too. We'll decide what to do to the book after we learn what it contains. "
>>24158859yeah okay, nevermind then. Phew.
>>24158845Pfft.It's kept under Lock and Key all day erryday. Just have Quentin forge us up a nice little filler page and nobody will be the wiser.Though, that's not exactly a paladinish way of doing things.
>>24158847Hi, I'm EchoGarrote, welcome to my quest. Are you new?
>>24158859Yeah. Pretty much. Ted is already on my shit list for trying that crap back at the Shrine so I'm not even going pretend to have his interest. >>24158810I say bring Tricia because cold.
>>24158810I am leaning towards Tirica, i dont entirely trust Ted anymore, especially alone with us and the book.
>>24158847>Implying Tricia will take up more room>Implying she can't just snuggle up in our coils
>>24158923You have a rather good point there.Echo: if Tricia didn't mind getting cozy with us, which she almost certainly doesn't, could get have Tricia and Ted on a sled with us?
>>24158847Just be grateful you weren't here for the Painter.Or the dresses.
I say ted. He did sort of take a vampire for us.It'd be mighty neighborly.
>>24158923Echo will probably say its a weight limit, we are quite a few hundred pounds of snake.Tricia I say.
>>24158810Business before Pleasure I'm afraid.We'll give Tricia some extra snugglings later on. Right now we've a book to translate.
>>24158966Heh, thanks for giving me that idea. Okay, yeah. Weight limit.You DID just suggest that you were about 800 pounds of snake. (It's more like 550-600, and it's all muscle anyway)
>>24158982Agreed, if we have to choose, then Ted, sadly.
>>24158997>Heh, thanks for giving me that idea. Okay, yeah. Weight limit.Archivist, you'd think you'd have learned by now.
>>24158997well, I remember I read some math on lamia dynamics a while back.they needed to be HUGE to rear themselves up like that. Moreso to do snake strikes and be mobile.
>tricia attempts to lift us on wedding night>we have to lift her instead
>>24158982>>24158998Ted cant even read it, apparently only we can.>>24159015its more interesting this way, and stuff like weight limits keep it based in physics, ie why I argued we have to be 15ft minimum, probably closer to 20ft for most of our antics.
>>24159076we were planning on reading it to him quietly.And yeah, I love having to deal with us being 700 pounds. Imagine our DRAGOON LEAP attack
>>24159033Yeah, but remember you're an infant as far as sane lamias go. Some wild ones who haven't gone berzerk, but who are feral can be up to 60 feet long and go into four digits, and do NOT ask Scheherazade about her weight. Ever.
>>24159076>Ted cant even read it, apparently only we can.True, but Ted seems to know something about it, and he knows quite a bit about dragons. At the moment, I think we need to bring along whoever can help us most with the book. Can anyone else help us with the book more than Tricia can?Also, unless there's something better for him to do on the way back, Mage should start investigating the mace.
>>24159100Good thing we don't have to leap. We can just hold Beacon 5 feet above them and slam down.
>>24159108well then, I hope we stick around with ssen until then.Also find out scheherazade's weight one day.
>>24159076He cannot read, but perhaps he can contextualize.
>>24159133>True, but Ted seems to know something about it, and he knows quite a bit about dragons. At the moment, I think we need to bring along whoever can help us most with the book. Can anyone else help us with the book more than Tricia can?Er, than Ted can?
>>24159133We need Ted with us just to shut him up. We know he'll hassle us about the book later if we don't throw him a bone.
>>24158810Tricia, I don't trust Ted around the book.
>>24159144Honestly for me. It comes down that I don't truest Ted anymore after the what happen in the Shrine. I don't want him anywhere near the book until after we read it fully.
>>24159173Let him hassle us. He needs to get over himself anyways.
>>24159108even a 'small' one like us would probably weigh on the upper end of 600/700 pounds.>>24159144i still say Tricia, we can tell Ted what the book contains once we arrive, nor do I trust him alone with us and the book.
Since we are hoping to read this before we get back we will likely be doing nothing but reading anyway. Ted WOULD be useful for understanding draconic metaphors if they are used.
If we were going to have anyone with us I'd say Mari, she IS our scholar after all.
>>24159205He unlocked an electrical cage with goddamned throwing axes.He doesn't need to get over anything from anyone.
>>24159242>If we were going to have anyone with us I'd say Mari, she IS our scholar after all.OK, that's a reasonable thought. If nobody else wants to take Ted, then Mari would be more useful at the moment. We don't need cuddles right now (as much as we might want them).
>>24159185Add on top of that, he's made it pretty clear to me he wants that book gone.>>24159248>respect me because I server dragons!Yeah, fuck that noise. If we didn't end that fight then and there we might be chasing him down for that book.
>>24159294I made my argument and voted for ted.I wasn't posting again to avoid beign re-counted.
>>24159300All right fine. Tell me what bringing Tricia along accomplishes and I'll change my vote.Thus far, I haven't heard many good reasons aside from her being our Waifu.
>>24159384I'm fine with anyone but Ted. Hell, Mari will be useful over Tricia.
>>24159300People fear what they don't understand. Knowledge is power. Ted's afraid that the book is some how2killdragons 101 manual. If we read the thing to him chances are he'll calm his shit about it.
>>24159441would you want to be on the sled with him if it IS a dragonslayer 101 though?
>>24159441I suspect the same. Or he doesn't think people learning more about dragons would be good for dragons, in general.
>>24159495if it is, then we have to forge a convenient replica and store the real one in the lighthouse.Because apparently we're the blood ravens.
>>24159495I'm pretty sure we can push him off if it is.
>>24159495He'd have to be very stupid to try anything but snatching it and running. I'd like to think he has more presence of mind than that considering that he didn't attempt to do so back at the library.
>>24159495I assumed that, unless it was incredibly laborious to read, we'd read or skim the whole thing first and then read it to him and ask him questions.
>>24159553And there was all friends with us at that time. It be us and him on a moving sled. Nothing like a snatch and run in the forest never to be seen from again.
>>24159575Because he'll totally get far with an iron book in the snow, yep.
>>24159575Let's bring Mari with us, then. We can tell Ted about it later when all of our group is assembled and probably ready to act in case of any treachery.
Alright, I'll make this simpler, cause this was going to happen anyway.You need to roll to read the book, Mari gets you a reroll, Ted lets you take a basic success if you fail.
>>24159612>>24158736>It's about as big as a kindle and it has eight slabs inside double sided. It's heavy, but a person can carry it.Yeah I think he can.
>>24159641take Mari then.
>>24159641Hmm. What do we have to roll to get that basic success?
>>24159575Anonymous, we're a Lamia. We can crush his legs with a well placed tail hug. Even if he gets far, we can sniff his ass out with our crazy ass smelling tongue.Teddy can run. Teddy can hide. But he can't escape.I don't trust /tg/ dice not to fuck us on a re-roll.Ted.
>>24159683Oy, stop feeling so smug about being a lamia.We still haven't invented tailsocks.
>>24159641Yup. Ted.Willing to go with Mari only if consensus says Ted is a threat that we somehow can't deal with.
>>24159683>>24159710Remember he's a hunter, knows bronze peak (or whatever this place is called) better than most. His ass would be gone. And everything you suggested would have us roll for. Just like you I don't trust dice for us to get him or the book back if he pulls any shit.>>24159641Still voting Mari.
>>24159641Mari, rather take /tg/ dice then a chance of ted bolting with the book.
>>24159772I don't recall there being a roll for running someone's ass over with a Sled.
aaaaand, its tied
Man, that theme song sucks something fierce.
i like it.
>>24159772Yeah. He's gonna outrun a Sled on foot in knee deep or higher snow.
>>24159731>>24159720>>24159710Ted eagerly watches as you open the book and look at it. Humans couldn't read this book. It's not just a visual issue or the language. There's a...a smell-taste to it. To the gold, to the iron, even to the old stretched Leather-That's-Not-From-A-Cow that covers it. Those eight plates aren't just a few words...there's enough here to fill dozens upon dozens of shelves...and four of these...you're not holding a book from the library, you're holding an entire fourth of the library, just untranslated.Roll 1d20
Rolled 2>>241598091 ted2 mari
oh nice, first linked post is an 18.
>>24159839Looks like we didn't need Ted or Mari.
>>24159841>>24159839>>24159837Did we just troll the shit out of /tg/ dice?
i think we did, first roll after was a 2, but it didn't count
>>24159905Hey Citadel, follow the shiny coinflip over there!
>>24159823>>24159810Eh, it doesn't really fit perfectly any more. That was more for when we were in the self-discovery paladinstage.We need a season 2 song.
>>24159905A 2 on a d2 is a good roll.
>>24159969It's a coin flip. There's no 'good roll' on such a thing. It's like saying heads is better than tails.
>>24160010Are you suggesting heads is equal to tails you sick fuck?
>>24159839There's just so...so much you can see. History, stories, tales, legends. This was written by the Bear Tribe and these bastards were...were...heh...they were like Father. They didn't think that Monsters were all mindless beasts, they wanted their help in fighting the Dragon Who Was Of Shadow, so they travelled around trying to get their stories and they used this very very old way of writing to protect the secrets that they slowly won. Only someone who was allied with the Other-Races could get to learn these secrets. No wonder the Dragon Who Was Of Shadow came down upon the Bear Tribe so hard, and now you get why and maybe how, parts of the Shrine were preserved. The translated books are all written in old Bear Tongue though, until now.There's some options you can choose to look through. There's stuff on Dragons themselves. The Dragon Who Was Of Shadow. Dragon servants. Dragon-kin (Apparently a separate race unto itself.) Lizard People. The Beautiful Ones. Location of Lairs and Titles, basically Dragon Heraldry. Combat techniques used by and to use against dragons and their kind. Spells innate to Dragons and Dragon Off-shoots."Well? Well? What does it say?" Ted asks curiously.
>>24160037>>24160010>implying tails aren't the bestWe've been proving that this entire quest
>>24160046Granny is gonna love this. If only we could get it to her.
>>24159966>We need a season 2 song.You can pick one, but I like 'Embers' by Owl City.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5si7w3uS9tU
>>24160046"It is literally a fourth of the collected works of an entire civilization. An entire civilization that believed in assisting people like me, or your masters, for the greater good of all.Ted, I cannot tell you how valuable this book is."
>>24160046"Everything. Everything forever."
>>24160010In this quest, higher is better. If that had been a d20 that counted, it would have been in the top half and probably a success. People seemed to be implying that we'd got the bad roll out of the way without it counting but it wasn't even bad.
>>24160104>In this quest, higher is better.Not always man.
>>24160120Well not necessarily if it's a random table. But it was in this case.
>>24160046"Basically? Everything one would ever want to know about Dragons. It's astounding."
>>24160046 "It's about the history of the Bear Tribe and their relations with other races. I haven 't gotten to any of the details yet but they were allied with many, including Dragons."
So...How are we going to convince the overseer to let us keep this book?"I can read this shit?"
>>24160046Look up dragons first. We need to know how to predict what the Old One will do.Then look at the Dragon's Shadow."Its a fourth of the collected knowledge of the Bear Tribe. Specifically on the Dragon's Shadow and the so called 'monster races' including dragons. They believed that the only way to defeat their foe was through cooperation. I can understand why Citadel would want to alter this."
>>24160046>Only someone who was allied with the Other-Races could get to learn these secretsOr you know, somebody with a load of brainwashed lamia sex slaves.
>>24160046And as for Options:Dragons themselvesThe Beautiful OnesCombat Techniques..gotta get through that in Case Ted gets some very bad ideas.
>8 iron plates that only we can readGREAT.we're mormons now.
>>24160095<Everything. Everything forever.> You say in an amazed voice. Instinctually going into the Dragon Tongue. <It is literally a fourth of the collected works of an entire civilization. An entire civilization that believed in assisting people like me, or your masters, for the greater good of all.<Ted, I cannot tell you how valuable this book is.><There were a few Tribes in the days before the Gathering of Light that called the Bear Tribe the Betrayers..." Ted says amazed. "I...I won't. I can't...not if it's what you say it is...but my new master. he MUST see this. Please?>
>>24160046First of all, I'm assuming that this book is way older than Whitefire, so there's little point trying to look up the local dragon or its immediate family.First, because it has come up so often: look up lizard people, since we are one.Second, look up the Dragon who Was of Shadow, what it really was, and its fall.
>>24160244<Sure, once we find him. There are entire appendixes on dragons, I'm not sure where to start.>
>>24160248We're a "beautiful one" according to Ted. The book has a category for it too. Lets look there instead.
>>24160244<First we must find him or her, but this will NOT end up in Old Ones Hoard.>
>>24160244<Not until I'm finished with it, and once we are, we're taking it straight back to the library like I promised.>
>>24160046Look up the beautiful ones!Please!
>>24160244<The book still technically belongs to the Bear Shrine, so unless I somehow get permission to hang onto it, I don't think that's my right to grant. But I understand perfectly, Ted.><How old was Whitefire? Any chance we might find him in here?>
>>24160303Agreed, this book needs to stay with us now.
>>24160244<Absolutely. We have to protect this. There's so much knowledge here, so many knots this could cut, paths it could clear.>
>>24160317>>24160289Agreed. Look up the beautiful ones and also the section on spells specific to dragonkind, particularly lamiae.
>>24160289Oh yeah. We gotta say how the Bear Tribe saw Nagas and Lamias.<Certainly. I just hope your master doesn't do anything..covetous. I mean, the last we need s the Order trying to repossess it from a dragon.>
So.We need a harpy or something, a trollkin of some form, and a merwoman.Because we totally can't read any of those other books.You guys know that right?
>>24160289Yeah, you're right. Lizard people later; I'd intended to find out more about ourselves.
>>24160371Troll battle waifu.Gertrude
>>24160416>GertrudeHe sounds very pretty
Holy shit, what are the odds. I actually found this on 1d4chan for the first time like 20 minutes ago.
>>24160265<Sure, once we find him. There are entire appendixes on dragons, I'm not sure where to start.><We'll find your Dragon, but this will NOT end up in Old Ones Hoard.><The book still technically belongs to the Bear Shrine, so unless I somehow get permission to hang onto it, I don't think that's my right to grant. But I understand perfectly, Ted.><How old was Whitefire? Any chance we might find him in here?><Her, Whitefire was a She, umm...try...try...she she was also know as...> He makes some mangled hiss-rattle-cough sounds. You actually do 'see' the equivalent. It's here, a tale of this young little dragon, where she lived, how many servants she was given, who she is related to, and at the point in time when she was exiled by the others for 'giving into the gifts and lies of Dragon Who Was Of Shadow.' (Well they don't use that word, but that's what you recognize it as)
considering how echo has been running for about 10 hours now, pretty damn good.
>>24160474well strap in, you stepped in right when shit's gun get gud. Maybe not, if you don't want spoilers. Spoilers ahead.
>>24160474I advise going and reading the archived threads before jumping in, if just to catch up on the storyline or much will go right over a new readers head.
>>24160490Well, maybe look up some relations, but I really want to get to the beautiful ones tonight.
>>24160490I am sorry Ted, but she was corrupted long ago. First by teh Dragon Who Was of Shadow and then Citadel who turned her scales white.
>>24160490<Huh, even her corruption is in here. How old are you, Ted?>
>>24160545Have some delicacy and don't word it as a "corruption".Say it as an exile or some shit.
No he knew she went mad, he probably doesn't know why. We want him mad at citadel.
>>24160490>It's here, a tale of this young little dragon, where she lived, how many servants she was given, who she is related to, and at the point in time when she was exiled by the others for 'giving into the gifts and lies of Dragon Who Was Of Shadow.' (Well they don't use that word, but that's what you recognize it as)Do they have their own metaphor in Draconic, or is it a proper name?For now, just tell Ted she's in there, both her rise and her corruption, without going into detail.Look up the Dragon who Was of Shadow. What was it, if not an actual dragon? What does the book say about its fall, and what happened after? Does the book mention Citadel at all?Then look up the Beautiful Ones.captcha: "index"Yes, we could use one.
I'm getting this image as Ssen reads more of this book.>>24160573He already knows.>>24160602>giving into the gifts and lies of Dragon Who Was Of ShadowShadow Dragon =! CitadelUnless that got changed somewhere along the way.
>>24160545<Huh, even her corruption is in here. How old are you, Ted?><80.> Huh, Dragon Servants get good health benefits. He looks late 30s max.But apparently the book says that Whitefire took a 'single gift' a long long time ago and was cast out. The records stop at a certain point, but if you can guess the Bear Shrine was destroyed just around the same time the Lightbringer's first army was destroyed and he was rescued by the first Caligo Clarus.(The First Lightbringer was from the Hare Plains tribe. The first Caligo Clarus was from the Wolf Mountain Tribe.)There's a LOT of Dragons who took a gift, or several, from the Dragon Who Was Of Shadow. Apparently all it takes is one 'Yes' to him and the other Dragons kicked you out of the club.
>>24160640>Do they have their own metaphor in Draconic, or is it a proper name?Just really the "Thing-Mighty-As-Dragon-Who-Is-No-Dragon-But-What-Came-From-The-Shadows"
>>24160670Dragons are very covetous creatures. They probably were at least partially jealous.
>>24160670Damn it, Echo. Now you've got me scouring my music collection for a theme song.I've got this one so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKFoTHwu73kFor days when the mantle grows particularly heavy
>>24160743That's actually an informative name. Confirmation that it *isn't* a dragon, then.So, what is it, how did it fall (did it in fact die), is there anything about it having literal children, and what happened after it fell?
>>24160782already been answered, the histories stop before its defeat
>>24160816Sorry, you're right; the answers to how it fell and what happened after won't appear in the book. But what it is might.Then Beautiful Ones.
>>24160670check what it has on Beautiful Ones next.
>>24160743The section on the Dragon Who Was Of Shadow is...well...apparently he was the Monster's Citadel from what you can tell. It was a force that kept the humans down, and weak, and afraid. In return the monsters, or in this case, the Dragons, would give sacrifices unto it, their young or their old to be 'made in its image to expand its power' and in exchange, they would be given strength, power, size, food, and anything they wanted. All they had to do was devote their love/obedience/future (Same word three different meanings) to it.Of course Dragons are proud creatures, and refused to be subjugated by any. Ever. So they formed a group to try and beat the creature back, by themselves. They lost. Badly. Of course, they would never stoop so low as to admit the weakness of needing help from others, but they told the Bear Scribe this story so that they could pass it onto their servants and the next generation of eggs, when (but now you get the feeling it was 'if') they hatched.The Dragon Who Was Of Shadow was not a Dragon though.The Dragons refused to call anything mightier than they were, so they said it was AS mighty...but they were lying.
>>24160914>The section on the Dragon Who Was Of Shadow is...well...apparently he was the Monster's Citadel from what you can tell. It was a force that kept the humans down, and weak, and afraid. In return the monsters, or in this case, the Dragons, would give sacrifices unto it, their young or their old to be 'made in its image to expand its power' and in exchange, they would be given strength, power, size, food, and anything they wanted. All they had to do was devote their love/obedience/future (Same word three different meanings) to it.That's shockingly parallel, just inverted. "Our" Citadel keeps the "monsters" down, and weak, and afraid. Humans give it sacrifices (the Lightbringers), and reap the benefits. Now I'm seriously wondering if Citadel and the Dragon are just two of the same type, on slightly different sides. Or the same spirit, having switched sides from "monsters" to humans.
>>24161003We knew the Citadel was bad news for a while.But that it's such a symmetrical bad news is..troubling.
>>24161003this makes far to much sense.Citadel may be the Dragon Who Was Of Shadows after all, which we theorized may threads ago when we first learned of the dragon and citadel.
Citadel is the human daughter of the Dragon, we were told this. A new spirit just like the Dragon but for humans.
>>24161102Maybe it's far simpler and sadder than that. maybe these land spirits are simply the product of an overwhelming sentiment of bias. In the day of the Dragon-who-was, the environment was one of monstrous oppression, and once that regime was felled, the oppressed filled the vacuum and became the oppressors.
>>24161155Honestly?We already have the spirit we need to take this shit out. It's just not sustainable.We can bring about an age of the light, but due to its nature, it will change into an age of something... else.
>>24161155Exactly. Perhaps it serves whoever the largest or most dominant group is, or perhaps it's the literal manifestation of the unfiltered desires of the people.
>>24161175Take the good where we can get it. Remember that change is inevitable and must be as welcomed as it is feared.
>>24161203I really hope that isn't the case, I'm not so sure our serpent Paladin can handle fighting the desires of an entire world.
>>24161230we're gonna have to do some more speeches.
>>24160914Beautiful Ones.They have absolutely nothing to do with Humans or the Dragon Servants.So, apparently some Dragonesses fell in love with Leviathans/Rocs/Trolls. Well, less love and more 'temporary lust and the dragonness was in heat.' Apparently, Dragons periods of heat last MUCH longer than yours, and don't have to worry about that clock thing. There's no comment about the sex being consensual...but there's no term for 'consensual sex' in Dragon.These offspring were called the Beautiful Ones...because it was a joke. An insult. Dragons are supposed to be mighty, dominant, imposing, and fearsome. NOT pretty. They were, to a one, abandoned.The Beautiful Ones that survived were cast out as exiles, and tried to live on their own. A good many of them killed themselves trying to go back to one family or another, none would have them. Some were killed by humans, because thats what humans and monsters did back then.Most of them went mad, or gave themselves to the Dragon Who Was Of Shadow.And some were not killed by humans...once more the Bear Tribe steps up and takes in these Beautiful Ones, and tried to care for them. Then the Dragon Who Was Of Shadow came, and then the Bear Tribe and the sane Beautiful Ones were no more. They gave their lives to help the Bear Tribe survive for another set of seasons. Apparently, they recorded about how later they heard of Beautiful Ones who were mad how they 'took' humans, and their offspring were even more 'twisted.''Degenerate offspring' is what you are called.Nagas are Dragon/Troll. Lamias are Dragon/Leviathan. There's no record of a 'degenerative offspring' of a Roc/Dragon.That's the truth. You're the end result of a Dragon's 'mistake.'
>>24161003Although Granny or someone said that Citadel rewards the monsters for acting their part, though perhaps not in a way that is conducive to creating a stable civilization like the humans/elves/dwarves have. I think she cited that Naga/Lamia who act monstrous get very strong as a result.
>>24161269"Hah! I'm part dragon! Eat it, nature!"Nature, right?
>>24161269<..Figures.>I already dislike the dragons now.
>>24161269>Ssens faceYeah, I don't see how most this going to affect her. Though this part:>Apparently, they recorded about how later they heard of Beautiful Ones who were mad how they 'took' humans, and their offspring were even more 'twisted.'Is there more detail on that?
>>24161347>don't see how this is going to affect herSsen's totally a dragon.
>>24161269>but there's no term for 'consensual sex' in Dragon.knew it was coming but still laughed.
I bet the Harpy's are the roc and dragon degenerates. That would make sense. Also sweet we have Leviathan in our blood. Maybe we should look up those next.<Hah, this 'mistake' is going to do what they could not.'>
>>24161269Oh well. This doesn't really affect us or bring any earth-shattering revelations. Either way, we're a living species, and a paladin.
>>24161269Well, Ssen and who knows how many Naga/Lamia there are living out in the wild. in which there is a noted dearth of dragons.
>>24161269>'mistake'Like peanut butter and chocolate, motherfuckers. We know we hot.
>>24161361Part, some, a little. Neat fact ... but beyond that big whoop.
>>24161269>Nagas are Dragon/Troll. Lamias are Dragon/Leviathan. There's no record of a 'degenerative offspring' of a Roc/Dragon.Phoenixes come to mind as a likely candidate, if they're real and not just part of the Phoenix Empire mythology. Not that it matters much right now.In any case:>That's the truth. You're the end result of a Dragon's 'mistake.'<Best. Mistake. Ever.>
>>24161269>There's no comment about the sex being consensual...but there's no term for 'consensual sex' in Dragon.Welp.>Lamias are Dragon/LeviathanSweet. We know we have stuff from the dragon side, do we have any leviathan powers? We should try reading the water book later.
>>24161383Dude. Father's cryptic last words.You're a dragon? We're totally a dragon.This is just the best.
With all of this "epiphany of the cyclic nature of the world" business and what with our being on our first real adventure, starting to see parts of our life after they've finally come together, I think this may be an appropriate theme song.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3pSv5R9ryEI am spent on appropriate music for this quest.
>>24161269>and don't have to worry about that clock thingAs if dragons would record that they grow old and die, whether it's true or not.>>24161407>Sweet. We know we have stuff from the dragon side, do we have any leviathan powers? We should try reading the water book later.Do we, or Ted, know anything about leviathans? Not likely that we know anything useful, but it can't hurt to ask.>>24161269Next, look up the spells innate to Dragons and Dragon Off-shoots, make sure that includes Beautiful Ones, and do a quick skim. Not trying to learn any quite yet, just trying to get a quick flavor. Pay particular attention to anything that protects the mind, nullifies magic, or ensures truth.
Also it now makes sense why the Fifth contacts Naga and Lamia if he is indeed the Dragon Reborn. His original pupose was to strengthen dragons and so of course he looks to those with dragon blood to solve his problems.
>>24161495I now remember our kickass swimming prowess.
>>24161500...No wonder peace thought we might want in on genocide with the help of the 5th.This is some heavy shit. Am I right in saying meeting out lamia friends in river crossing is higher priority?
>>24161516we could swim with the whole team grabbing our tail.We can slither with the whole team riding us.There are no brakes on the snake train.except bags
>>24161541Not really. They're insane Citadel-slaves, not friends. Also they can kill us instantly if we make one wrong move.
sad thing is the Citadel still gives the creatures under it more power. They just lose all capacity to be anything other then the monster.
>>24161269okay, as for actions.<Hey Ted, this book says I'm part dragon. And leviathan? Do you know what a leviathan happens to be? >
God damn Echo, you have the endurance of a damn Nigerian.
>>24161667Yeah, on the off chance Ted doesn't already know what the Beautiful Ones are, tell him and see if he shows just a bit more deference.
>>24161408<You were right Father...and this 'mistake' is going to do what they couldn't.><Sorry?><Nothing. Personal stuff. Do you anything about Leviathans?><They're as big as Dragons, have shells and giant flippers, some get mistaken for islands, and they're the source of sea serpents, mer-folk, the slimes, and any other low-creature that crawls out of the water. They're supposed to be extinct.> He says. That's about what you know of the subject as well.Dragon SpellsWell, you know all of Granny's powers? Her endless strength, her ability to heal, and her arcane knowledge that rivals the Citadel Mages? Yeah, she's the equivalent of Mage according to this. Dipping her toe in the water, and reverse engineering the shreds of other spells. Full Dragon magic, can raise entire armies from the dead, cause mountains to be ripped apart, and bathe fields in fire...you do get the idea that a lot of this is the Dragon bragging to the Bear Scribe. But apparently the Dragons weren't all that concerned with magic, they HAD power, they WERE power, they didn't need to TAP into anything to USE power, as if they needed permission. So if you parse it down, it's not THAT impressive. Healing magic that actually caused wounds to heal, instead of just instant clotting and adrenaline jolts like it is now. A little fire manipulation here, some earth manipulation there...heh Mage actually uses most of the spells here regularly. Ghoul Magic looks like it ripped off a lot of Dragon Magic. It probably explains why the Dragon Servants live so long. In fact...You check the Dragon Servant part for a brief moment...yep...the first Ghouls were Dragon Servants who were masterless and went rouge. Mis-using their powers and were then disowned by the Dragons.Huh. Here's an interesting thing that cross-references the Dragon Magic, the Beautiful Ones, and the Dragon Servants...sort of.Dragons do not mate. Dragons do not have 'family.' But Dragons have those that they 'bond' with.
>>24161715It's...hard to say in human terms, but basically it's saying 'This is Part of my Horde, but it may have its Own Horde that is Not Mine, and I am part of Their Horde.' Which is as touchy-feely as Dragons get.
>>24161715Bonding cross reference?Read that, and then follow up on magic.
>>24161754I take it shared bank accounts is a nobueno for Dragons then.
>>24161715Does anything about the dragon spells seem fundamentally harder for modern folks to do (dragon or otherwise), or does it just seem like anyone who had this information could cast the original spells rather than the less-capable modern versions?In other words, leaving aside any inherent property that only allows those with draconic ancestry to use them, does anything stop Mage, Mari, or Ssen from using the original spells at their full awesomeness?>>24161715Did Whitefire have one she bonded with?Any more details on if bonding means anything more to dragons than their feelings? Any ceremonies/rituals/etc? Any associated benefits?
im headed to bed, don't get us killed.
>>24161819>does anything stop Mage, Mari, or Ssen from using the original spells at their full awesomeness?Game balance.
>>24161754The record of the Beautiful Ones say that a few of them bonded with each other sucessfully, and with other Tribe members. There were 'unforeseen blessings given upon those who had the tender heart and steel heart to go through it.' and it says what was done. It's not that complicated, really. A drop of blood, a drop of sweat and a tear. Mix them all up, divide them, drink it, and then apparently survive what happens next, which isn't given detail.Then boom, a bond has been formed. There's not many details that you can tell...well...maybe one. Lifespan shoots WAY up, on both sides.
>>24161863We'll be fine, just take your dice with you.
>>24161868The fact that they aren't Dragons. A good deal of Dragon Magic is as such:Step 1: Be a Dragon.Steps 2 Through XX aren't that hard, but it all comes back to step 1.
>>24161868I'm assuming that's called "study" and "training", together with the fact that the dragons have at least somewhat exaggerated how awesome the spells are. Even given a modern spellbook, Mage can't just instantly learn a new spell. I'm just asking if these spells are inherently any harder to learn.
>>24161871ah jeez.Ah jeez louise.
>>24161871> then apparently survive what happens next, which isn't given detail.I must know what happens. It's more than likely very painful.
>>24161898I imagine it will require significant out-of-mage support.If I was a dragon spellcaster, I'd use my naturally monstrous power to fuel my spells.If I was a normal spellcaster, I'd use latent environmental energy.
>>24161892Well, the spells say they're usable by dragon offspring as well. Are the originals better because the modern versions have lost something over time, or just because the casters were dragons rather than dragon-servant descendants (like Mage) or lamia (like Ssen)?
>>24161927(Also pointing out that, since we know the offspring of lamia and non-lamia aren't full lamia, Ssen is half-dragon, not some smaller fraction.)
>>24161871by other Tribe members, they mean humans right?if so, I think we just figured out how to extend Tricia's life, if she will have us.
>>24161963Yeah, that was the first thought that came to mind. We'll tell Tricia as soon as we're not racing against a clock (probably this evening before we sleep).
>>24161911The Bear Scribe doesn't say.Dragon-Kin are the legitimate offspring of a Dragon and something else. Again, details are not given on how these beings came to be but Dragons have no word for 'courtship,' surprise, surprise.There's the Lizard Folk who are runts of litters who managed to survive and breed. They were allowed to be, because Dragons always need something to be subservient to them, and having a species that worshipped them as Gods was peachy keen by them.The Dragon Slaves were humans that were taken on, once that Dragons discovered the utility of Thumbs and how nice it is for someone to scrape lichen off your back. Salamanders are listed, the big ones, as being the eggs who survived getting a lava bath due to a volcano erupting over a nest. There's a little mention of some dragons who live 'across the sea with the birds' but they are quickly mentioned and then moved on.That's the information of that part. Most of it is the Dragons telling the Bear Scribe how awesome Dragons are compared to everything else.
>>24162023Can we find any more references to eggs?we should really find a few. Is it possible to raise a dragon whose greedy dickitude works to the benefit of society?
>>24161927>Are the originals better because the modern versions have lost something over time, or just because the casters were dragons rather than dragon-servant descendants (like Mage) or lamia (like Ssen)?Actually, the only thing that makes the original spells 'better' is that they had crazy power behind them. These days spells are much more power-efficent, and versatile, the accuracy Mage does with his Stone to Mud, let alone his Rosetta Light, could NEVER be done by a Dragon.Old stuff isn't better just because it was there first. It's just you hit someone with a fireball with Granny/Mage/You and they'll hurt, hit someone with a Dragon Magic fireball, and there's not even ashes...for a radius.
>>24162023Any spells we can try out from the dragon magic section? Or is that mostly, "Lol, our magic is ~soooo~ kewl."
>>24162023>The Dragon Slaves were humans that were taken on, once that Dragons discovered the utility of Thumbs and how nice it is for someone to scrape lichen off your back. Are those the same as the Dragon Servants, or something different?Apart from that, the only things we *haven't* looked up that was in our original skim are Locations of Lairs and Titles (Dragon Heraldry) and combat of and against dragons. Let's start with the latter.
>>24162057>we should really find a few. Is it possible to raise a dragon whose greedy dickitude works to the benefit of society?Yeah, but his name's Itzak Solomon Elegante Newgate.
>>24162077Don't scare me like that Echo.
>>24162069OK, that makes sense. So there's not much point in us looking up the spells for which we have modern analogues. There *is* a point in us looking up spells with no modern equivalents, such as the mind-protection or truth-detection spells that Citadel or the Paladins have suppressed, respectively. Could we, please?
>>24162076There's a Difference, a BIG different.Dragon Servants are humans bred to serve and slave for Dragons. Ted is one and Mage is descended from them.Children of the Dragon are humans who took 'Gifts' from The Dragon Who Was Of Shadow. That's ALSO in Mage's ancestry, as were a bunch of other raiders and warlords who terrorized the First Tribes.
Hey guys, Rocs, yeah the giant birds, there in the Phoenix Empire. Just saying....
>>24162126Just as Monsters can get gifts from Citadel by behaving how it wants, so too could humans. Just be an instrument of subjugation, death, and fear and boom, power, prestige, whatever you want. Just sign on the dotted line in blood...no it doesn't have to be yours.
>>24162077>>24162090>>24162095>giving a dragon to iztek to raiseYou're a dad now, iztek! Raise it well.
>>24162173Remaining topics: Dragon combat (by and against), spells with no modern equivalents (mind-protection, truth, anything else that jumps out at us), and names/lairs/heraldry if there's anything specific we want to try to look up there. Any other major topics covered in the book that we haven't looked at?
>>24162228When're we going to hit town?
>>24162255Round-trip to town and back with the emergency dog sleds took four hours, with the first half done by "rookies", so somewhat less than two hours from the Bear Shrine to town.
>>24162173CombatOhhh, Julian and the Paladins would KILL for this thing. The Dragon who gave this bit the the Bear Scribe is giving a detailed account on how to kill a Dragon, how to defend from its attacks, and what are its best weaknesses. (Wing joints aren't as vital as you think, however, the space under the Dragon's maw to where it meets it's neck? Sweet spot of sweet spots. Pain and damage and stops fire breathing if done right.) The Dragon told the scribe this because the Dragon wanted the Bear Tribe to kill the corrupted Dragons.As for combat? Eh, that's just a lot of Dragon boasting about their conquests and victories and how invincible they are. You check in the spells. There's nothing about protecting the mind of a Dragon because, of course, NOTHING could make a Dragon do anything against it's will. Those that were commanded by the Dragon-Who-Was-Of-Shadow did so by the result of their own personal weakness by giving into them and DESERVED to be controlled.The Lairs and Locations is basically a 'who's who' of Dragons. You get the feeling that there's a lot more PR in this bit as well, dragons pumping up their own accomplishments and bashing others.Ah! Here it is. (Unpronouncable Dragon Name) 'Old One' or 'Keeper of Stories' or 'The One Who Speaks To The Pink One In Furs Far Too Much For His Own Good But It Amuses Me, Yes I Want You To Write Down The Whole Thing. Good.'There's not much actually. He was born on some date that you assume makes sense to Dragons, he was NEVER tempted, EVER, and will NEVER fall. He's credited as being the reason most of the other Dragons even bothered looking at the Bear Scribes. There's also his home. 'The Lair Within The Peak Of Black Snow That Falls Upon The Tree Of Blood Blossom Flowers.' Apparently he was as good with names and as titles as you guys are.
>>24162228>>24162322I say spells first, then ted's dragon's family, then lamia in our region if possible, then dragon combat.
>>24162348<Well Ted, you were right that the Old O e is /somewhere/ in the Dark Peaks. Sadly he's about as bad at names and descriptions as myself so there's no telling where.>
>>24162348At least the dragon language isn't vague. No nonsense with figurative language or flowery verses or hidden messages in iambic pentameter within the patterns of the letters. Just plain and simple descriptions of what it is. It's pretty refreshing, to be honest.
>>24162403>dragons can't name shitThis is just so good
>>24162348>'The One Who Speaks To The Pink One In Furs Far Too Much For His Own Good But It Amuses Me, Yes I Want You To Write Down The Whole Thing. Good.'I like this guy already.
>>24162403<Well Ted, you were right that the Old One is /somewhere/ in the Dark Peaks. Sadly he's about as bad at names and descriptions as myself so there's no telling where.><Dragons are always descriptive. Please, tell me anything. I'm so close!> He's bouncing up and down in his seat, he's so excited.
>>24162348>You check in the spells. There's nothing about protecting the mind of a Dragon because, of course, NOTHING could make a Dragon do anything against it's will. Those that were commanded by the Dragon-Who-Was-Of-Shadow did so by the result of their own personal weakness by giving into them and DESERVED to be controlled.And nothing about how to protect the minds of the obviously-weaker offspring of dragons, so they can better keep dragon secrets?> There's not much actually. He was born on some date that you assume makes sense to Dragons, he was NEVER tempted, EVER, and will NEVER fall. He's credited as being the reason most of the other Dragons even bothered looking at the Bear Scribes. There's also his home. 'The Lair Within The Peak Of Black Snow That Falls Upon The Tree Of Blood Blossom Flowers.' Apparently he was as good with names and as titles as you guys are.Does Tree of Blood Blossom Flowers mean anything to us, or to Ted?
>>24162432<Do you know of a "peak of black snow" that "falls upon the tree of blood blossom flowers"? If we find these blood blossoms, then find the nearest mountain, we have the last known location of the dragon I'm looking for. >
>>24162432Start by telling Ted the dragon's full name, yes we want to tell him the whole thing, good. See how he reacts.
>>24162432<The Old One is also known as 'The One Who Speaks To The Pink One In Furs Far Too Much For His Own Good But It Amuses Me, Yes I Want You To Write Down The Whole Thing. Good.'>
>>24162432<Does "The Lair Within The Peak Of Black Snow That Falls Upon The Tree Of Blood Blossom" mean anything to you?>
>>24162467<The Old One is also known as 'The One Who Speaks To The Pink One In Furs Far Too Much For His Own Good But It Amuses Me, Yes I Want You To Write Down The Whole Thing. Good.'>Ted just stares at you blankly, blinking.<If that's a joke, I don't find it funny.>You smirk. <Does "The Lair Within The Peak Of Black Snow That Falls Upon The Tree Of Blood Blossom" mean anything to you?>Ted gasps. "YES! I KNOW WHERE THAT IS! HA HA!" He regains himself and his composure. <Yes, I had been slowly exploring the Dark Peaks piece by peace, but the Blood Blossom trees...oh I wouldn't have gotten there for MONTHS, and I would have tried THREE different areas first. Yes yes yes yes! My Master! I AM COMING!>The gates of Bronze Hill have come into sight now.You're back.
>>24162564>Ted gasps. "YES! I KNOW WHERE THAT IS! HA HA!" He regains himself and his composure. <Yes, I had been slowly exploring the Dark Peaks piece by peace, but the Blood Blossom trees...oh I wouldn't have gotten there for MONTHS, and I would have tried THREE different areas first. Yes yes yes yes! My Master! I AM COMING!><You'd better be planning to take us with you, Ted.>
>>24162564"Ted, I'd suggest waiting on that expedition a few days. We could go with in a few days, once we're done with our investigation one way or another. Unless you really want to go off right now."
>>24162599cut out one of those "a few days"es. editing error.
>>24162588<You'd better be planning to take us with you, Ted. I'd suggest waiting on that expedition a few days. We could go with in a few days, once we're done with our investigation one way or another. Unless you really want to go off right now.>Ted shakes his head. <Oh no. A few days is fine, sure. I have supplies to get an everything, not to mention I need to chart a course and some back up courses if my maps are out of date. The whole thing will take a week and a half journey to get there, anyway. Besides, a servant arriving alone with no tribute? No no no. But a Servant arriving with a Beautiful One and the Great Book Of Wisdom that my Master wrote Himself? Ohh, now THAT would ensure a place at his side. I've waited this long, three more days wont kill me."He narrows his eyes at you as the sleds enter the city. "But don't expect me to help you on this. I'm done with the undead. They are unclean and beneath all of us."
>>24162644"Oh, you don't need to. heck, helping in the library was going above and beyond. "
>>24162644>Ted shakes his head. <Oh no. A few days is fine, sure. I have supplies to get an everything, not to mention I need to chart a course and some back up courses if my maps are out of date. The whole thing will take a week and a half journey to get there, anyway. Besides, a servant arriving alone with no tribute? No no no. But a Servant arriving with a Beautiful One and the Great Book Of Wisdom that my Master wrote Himself? Ohh, now THAT would ensure a place at his side. I've waited this long, three more days wont kill me."<Also, even knowing where it is, I've been told that we'd have a very hard time navigating in the Dark Peaks without a certain compass that Sandover has, and that otherwise the Dark Peaks may end us. With instructions this precise, we may not need it, but I don't want to take that chance.>
>>24162644I resent their nature as much as you, I think, but it sounds like you have some deeper reason of which I am not aware. Care to share?
>>24162679I'd change "not taking the chance" to "it may be beneficial to have". The dude's spent literal years mapping the place constantly. He's got the more actual experience with the Dark Peaks other than anyone living there.
>>24162644>>24162644"Remember what I said about the book. It's not going into his hoard. Show off? Sure. Staying? Not a chance."At any rate, we'll meet up again after the investigation. Alright?"
>>24162644"Why would the Old One need the book? He was the one who WROTE it."
>>24162644>"But don't expect me to help you on this. I'm done with the undead. They are unclean and beneath all of us.""Aye, they're beneath all of us. But I need to find out who's been making them, and stop them before they ruin any more lives."
>>24162679<Also, even knowing where it is, I've been told that we'd have a very hard time navigating in the Dark Peaks without a certain compass that Sandover has, and that otherwise the Dark Peaks may end us. With instructions this precise, we may not need it, but I don't want to take that chance.>Ted nods. <We need that compass then, even knowing where the lair is wont get us there. Dragon's description of their territory is very generous, so there might be three or five peaks that look the same that he calls 'his' plus Dark Peaks shift all the time. We need that compass.>The sleds stop and everyone gets off and gets situated. Prisoners are escorted, wounded are carried, and Balles gets to work with his paperwork and dictation already.Ted actually gives you a hug before he runs back to his house. He's honestly skipping."So..." Tricia asks. "What was THAT all about?" She points at the book. "Were you two able to make sense of that?"
>>24162735"He found what he was looking for. We're going on an expedition to the dark peaks after our investigation.Yeah, we made sense of it. It actually was all magicaled up to be a whole sheaf of books. It turns out I'm part dragon! And leviathan. Or so this dragon book says."
>>24162735"Turns out I can read it as easily as a normal can read a children's book. There's just... SO MUCH."
>>24162735"A lot of interesting stuff in here. Somethings I want to talk to you about later."But to summarize, for the most part it's what we thought. A book about dragons and everything related to them."
>>24162735>"So..." Tricia asks. "What was THAT all about?" She points at the book. "Were you two able to make sense of that?""Yes, quite a bit. It's not just a book, it's a quarter of the Bear Shrine library, everything about Dragons. Among other things, where the Old One is, some disturbing history of the Dragon that Was of Shadow, and some potentially very good news for the two of us personally. Oh, and apparently I'm half-dragon and half-leviathan. Who knew?"
>>24162735"It's a history book that you have to taste to read! There's 3 others, one about Trolls, one Rocs, and one Leviathans. Honestly the whole thing boiled down to 'Dragons are the best, even when they're not quite so.' "
Meanwhile: an oculi is talking with his buddy about how the paladin just HISSED at him the entire way back.Just hissed.He's terrified.His friends tell him that's how lamias tell you they're into you.
>>24162814The Paladin Serpent and Crazy Ted, both.
>>24162838I love the rumors this will start.
>>24162814Alternatively, they realize Crazy Ted was hissing back at us. More rumors spread about why the Paladin Serpent put up with a fool mocking her.
>>24162765>>24162758"He found what he was looking for. We're going on an expedition to the dark peaks after our investigation."Turns out I can read it as easily as a normal can read a children's book. There's just... SO MUCH. It's not just a book, it's a quarter of the Bear Shrine library, everything about Dragons. Among other things, where the Old One is, some disturbing history of the Dragon that Was of Shadow, and some potentially very good news for the two of us personally. Oh, and apparently I'm half-dragon and half-leviathan. Who knew?"The others all stare at you for a moment. Mage lets out a low whistle. "So..." He looks at the book over your shoulder. "Can only people with liz-dragon eyes read it?""It's a history book that you have to taste to read! The three others back at the Library are the same, but different races. One about Trolls, one Rocs, and one Leviathans. Honestly, the whole thing boiled down to 'Dragons are the best, even when they're not quite so.' "Lea shakes her head in wonder. "We have to share this. We can't just let this knowledge just sit in the dark!""Agreed, we could make a bundle off of this!" Peri says."That we should donate to the Conclave." Mari says."The Conclave that has people who try to kill us?!" Peri snaps."Not all of them are evil!""No, the others are merely incompetent." "ANYway..." Tricia interrupts. "We going to go kick down the doors on a creepy whorehouse?"
>>24162845Stop shipping us, please.
>>24162814And thus your legend grows...you're the only Lamia who doesn't need to give into Citadel and gorge yourself in order for your tail to grow. Been waiting to use THAT one for AGES. Not sorry at ALL.
>>24162863"Oh, absolutely. What, do you think I just enjoyed sled rides?"
>>24162884I was really looking forward to a 60 ft Ssen too.sadface.
>>24162890I am pretty sure we're gonna get long. Echo confirmed it several times saying we were practically infants.just not, you know, chinese dragon long. Unless we become literal millenia old or something.
>>24162884...That was bad, Echo.You should feel ashamed of yourself.
>>24162890Tricia can't cuddle 60 ft. of us at once. We get more snuggling per unit surface area with this bodily format.
>>24162863"The knowledge in this book is too dangerous to reveal to the public right now, and as we've just saw with Passion, there are very few people we can trust.""Plus we still haven't solved our main problem, which is preventing Sandover from becoming a Dramatae."
>>24162884See? Totally canon. I knew it. Confused oculi soldiers.
>>24162915Naw, we should totally reveal a lot of the knowledge. And ask for an official requisition of book guard transition form.
>>24162884Anyways ...>>24162863"Duh? Lets get going before someone tips him off."
>>24162901no, only the ones that give in to the Dragon of Shadow get long, we just get faster.>>24162890I could see us growing a little more, I think we where ~16ft last time we tried to figure it out, I could see us hitting 19 or 20 ft if we have any more growing to do.unless echo says we are done growing.
>>24162884Note: we have a slightly higher cashflow.Consider taking the luxury of eating another chicken every meal in town.
>>24162943I really don't know where you get that faster-not-bigger business. We just don't get bigger AS FAST as citadel lamias.
>>24162951Nagas get thicker and stronger. Lamias get longer and faster.
>>24162967yeah. Longer and faster.Citadel ones get longer and faster at a faster rate than us. Also we might get bigger if we ate more. maybe.
Side note since we just spent so much time in research mode: with all the comments about the dice, I figured I'd do some research. I grabbed all the past Lamia Child Quest threads (1-25 and the Q&A), parsed out all the rolls and results, threw away all the +s, and counted each d20 roll (for simplicity of analysis). No obviously interesting biases in the data as a whole, but I did some checking of 1s and 20s since those get so much attention.Overall: 2330 total, expected 2330/20=116.5, 124 1s, 120 20sSo nothing particularly surprising overall. However, the numbers by poster are amusing.: 4 total, expected 4/20=0.2, 0 1s, 0 20sAnonymous: 898 total, expected 898/20=44.9, 58 1s, 36 20sbobptidou: 4 total, expected 4/20=0.2, 0 1s, 0 20sCaged Songbird: 2 total, expected 2/20=0.1, 2 1s, 0 20sCitadel: 2 total, expected 2/20=0.1, 0 1s, 0 20sEchoGarrote: 880 total, expected 880/20=44.0, 28 1s, 44 20sEssvee: 2 total, expected 2/20=0.1, 0 1s, 0 20sQuestling: 44 total, expected 44/20=2.2, 4 1s, 2 20sredaeth: 284 total, expected 284/20=14.2, 18 1s, 18 20sSageofTimes: 4 total, expected 4/20=0.2, 0 1s, 2 20sSecretary General: 10 total, expected 10/20=0.5, 2 1s, 0 20sStory Stitcher: 42 total, expected 42/20=2.1, 2 1s, 6 20sThe Archivist: 154 total, expected 154/20=7.7, 10 1s, 12 20sSo: Echo rolled an expected number of 20s but far fewer 1s, Anonymous rolled more 1s and less 20s than expected, and both redaeth and Archivist had more extremes than expected but not biased either way. The results for Echo and Anonymous are certainly enough to give us a general feeling of Citadel dice.I didn't make any attempt to check which rolls "counted" (e.g. only the first linked roll for each post by Echo.), or do full statistical fairness analysis.
This book. We need to visit Stone Hall after this is over. We'll have many day-long sessions of us reading this, dictating it to Ambrose, who'll transcribe it for printing. First topics to cover will be any and all objectively benign information, especially any which would aid communications, technology, medicine or the sciences in general. I'm kinda hoping there might be some form of communications magic in there.
>>24162915"The knowledge in this book is too dangerous to reveal to the public right now, and as we've just saw with Triv...with Passion, there are very few people we can trust."Plus we still haven't solved our main problem, which is preventing Sandover from becoming a Dramatae. Let's get going before someone tips him off."You all head towards Sandover House. It's very bright and cheery on the outside. The house is nice and large, with that big sign welcoming any and all, saying that they fit all shapes, sizes, and models. There are cheery paper lanterns and little pinwheels that spin around in the small breezes that whistle through the cave. It looks like there's a...kind of picnic/barbeque out infront of the area. There's people standing around chatting, talking, and laughing. Someone's manning a keg, and there's a pig on a spit and everyone is in a good mood."Hello!" Says a pretty woman in a red dress. You notice that a lot of the women and men are also dressed in red. They're all good looking, fit, and not shy about being touched. "Welcome to Sandover House! Come on in...oh my...what are you?" She asks with honest curiosity with no sense of malice.
>>24163017>"Hello!" Says a pretty woman in a red dress. You notice that a lot of the women and men are also dressed in red. They're all good looking, fit, and not shy about being touched. "Welcome to Sandover House! Come on in...oh my...what are you?" She asks with honest curiosity with no sense of malice."A Paladin."Do we want to try to track down Sandover himself, or see if we can sneak around here and find things like that compass? Or both (but let's *not* split the party, please).
Rolled 11>>24162994...What? I literally only used this name for like 3 posts in one thread and managed 2 1's? Gosh.
>>24163017We're looking for Mr Jeremy Sandover. Occuli business.
>>24163017"Ssen Patrick, Paladin of the citadel. Some ladies claiming to be from this establishment have contracted cases of vampirism, and we're authorized to conduct a follow up search of the premises."Flash your caligo symbol while doing this.
>>24163036And "Citadel" rolled two d20s, and got 18 both times.
>>24163017>what are you?Smile. Kindly and honestly. "I'm Ssen; a pleasure to meet you, Ms. ...?"
>>24163031Let's see if we can talk our way in so we can "look" for him inside.
>>24163048That sounds rather plausible, actually, assuming we don't mind drawing some attention.>>24163017Anyone around wearing a mask?
>>24163055>>24163048we want to go in quiet though, the entire idea of rushing back was to investigate without anyone knowing we where investigating.
>>24163017"Oh, don't worry about little old me. Say, have you seen Mr Sandover anywhere?"
>>24163065Ah, right. Ideally, if we *do* run into Sandover, we want him thinking that his vampire successfully stole the book he wanted.(Speaking of which, how stupid is it for us to walk into this place still carrying the book? Oh well, too late now.)
>>24163065We've already made our presence known, and we don't exactly blend in.
>>24163048change "of the citadel" to "of the light"
>>24163079no, our reason for getting here early was so we could bust the hell in and catch him unawares.If we searched tomorrow, he would have hidden all the shit.
>>24163079>Still carrying the book.FFFFFFFFFFF Scatterbrained_Lamia_never_thinks_things_through.gif
>>24163085No, the point was to appear like a tool of Citadel so as to avoid suspicion.
>>24163084These folks don't seem to ask too many questions or show much shock. It doesn't sound like we've drawn much attention so far.
>>24163094>be technically an infant of your race>go on BIG ADVENTURES>raaar I am a paladinface it.
>>24163017"I've heard you offer rooms for the night. Where might we go to rent some?"
>>24163094Like there's anywhere safe, beyond on our person, we should leave it?
>>24163084all they know right now is we showed up at the door, not what we are there for.ie if they know about the failed book theft then they have a chance to cover up/evacuate/destroy evidence.since we arent announcing that, they still have no idea the theft failed, or that we even fought anyone.
>>24163094Better with us than in a hotel room waiting for sandy spies to pick it up.
>>24163104>Dad watching with Granny>Dat duo facepalm at all the rookie mistakes
>>24163031"A Paladin.""Oh! OH! The Paladin Serpent!" She gets excited and hugs you as she leads you and the others inside the cheery little fence. "Everyone! Everyone! We have a special guest! The Paladin Serpent and her retinue are here to visit!"There's a smattering of applause and a lot of red robes come up to hug you, or the others, and a good deal of patrons come up and shake your hand.The doors to Sandover house open and someone in a red and black smoking jacket it there. He's a slightly portly man in spectacles, chestnut hair, and a big honest smile that's honestly a little infectious. He walks forward to you and then does a formal bow."Lady Paladin Ssen Patrick. Greetings and welcome to my place. I am Jeremy Sandover. It is my unending honor to have such a unique person as yourself here at my little abode." He sighs. "But, we are all unique then, aren't we? The world coming together in just that unique way to make you, me, Yvette, and everyone!" He laughs, a marvelous belly laugh that comes from a man who is happy, wealthy, and believes in the kindness of kindness and tries to make the world a little bit brighter. Everyone else laughs.And then you lock eyes, and you know, you /know/, even though he makes no reaction whatsoever at all (Which is a tell in of itself), that it's all a complete lie.This is the face of a man who wants to Be Citadel.
>>24163100Yeah, and then Sandover can complain to Balles that we broke into his property on false pretenses. We have Peri for sneaky shit.
>>24163122...was mine a *particularly* stupid response, or were they going to catch on and announce our presence no matter what we said?
>>24163131isn't the specific reason we are here to investigate the case of this vampire girl?Like, the legit reason by the book?
>>24163137(They'd catch on, still Sandover's paying Xanatos Speed Chess right now, because SOMEONE has knocked over all of the pieces.)
>>24163104>Little Ssen with a bucket helm, big stick and wicker basket-lid shield>Little Tricia wearing one of her dad's big old floppy hats that keeps falling down over her face, carrying a jar of fireflies slung over her shoulder, labeled "re-inforsmints".>Marching off to adventure.
>>24163146True. One possible angle: we could ignore the third vampire, *just* mention the other two, and say we're investigating what might have happened two unfortunate employees of his. Not sure if that's a good idea though, but I don't know what other legitimate reason we could offer for being here. We're obviously not here for any of his services.
>>24163146Yes it is. Personally I rather handle this like a SWAT blitz; go in secure the grounds, find anything like books, journals, notes, talk to his girls away from him. Just don't give him a chance to react to anything.
>>24163163I will give a reroll for that fan art. The image alone is pure DAWWW.
>>24163172we are legitimately here to investigate three vampire girls who claimed to have worked at this place.This site was obviously chosen for recruitment, and is thus important to the investigation.
>>24163173That's actually not a crazy plan, as long as he continues to play at being aboveboard. Ssen keeps talking to him, and the others start investigating.
>>24163185Two. Two vampire girls. We're better off for now if he thinks we don't know about the third.
>>24163155While he's still trying to play Speed Chess we'll start playing Go.
>>24163163Remember when little Ssen was all "I'm a dragon raaaaar" when she was shedding, way back in the day?
>>24163190why must you lie in every official action we take
>>24163175hopefully Slow Drawfag sees this and gets on it, his art is top notch.
>>24163199Because we're not Lawful Good. We're Pragmatic Good.
>>24163211but that's not pragmatic at all, it weakens our testimony later in court.
>>24163199The whole reason we came back so quickly was to avoid the news getting to Sandover first. Not much point if we tell him everything we know up front. He already knows the two vampires didn't succeed, since we're not dead. But for all he knows, the third one did.
>>24163199To be fair, only two are dead. And Only two confronted us.
>>24163215"But the Lamia told me there were only two Vampires captured not 3!""Who said there were 3, Mr. Sandover.
>>24163220your wording was poor though, we dont outright lie.however if we say we encountered and fought a number of vampires claiming to be recruited from here...we just decline to say exactly how many.
>>24163220the point, as I said, was to search the place before he could destroy and hide all the evidence.Get to swatsearching. Besides, we don't need to lie about the number of vampires. we are specifically here for the investigation of one vampire, and to address the vampirism problem.
>>24163122'Mr Sandover, I'd like you to come with us to the Occuli barracks to answer some accusations charged against you.'Ssen and Lea brings Sandover back to barracks. Mage, Peri/Mari and Tricia searches for the third vampire.We should keep Sandover away from his minions.
>>24163211Lying in official business is good way to get everything we would be working for to get against thrown out.>>24163220And by telling him ourselves would (hopefully) catch him flat footed. Though I even doubt this. He may very well already know.
>>24163235I wasn't attempting to suggest wording, just commenting in general about revealing two versus three. "Two dead" would also be accurate, for instance.
>>24163245>get against thrown out>get against him thrown out
>>24163241This.Additionally: "I'm sure one of these lovely ladies could oversee your fine establishment in your stead for the evening."Then leave his corpulent ass in a ditch with a blade in his spine.
>>24163241Not bad. But perhaps we could rephrase it; what about asking him to come to Cups to see one of his employees who was injured?
>>24163269If we still have the vampire with us, we could just pull it out and see how everyone reacts.
>>24163122"The Occuli recovered one of your employees who was gravely injured. We'd like to take you over to the Cups healing house to see her, and ask you a few questions to see if we can figure out what might have happened to her.">>24163276The Occuli have her.
>>24163276The First and Third Vampire are dust. The second, legless, vampire sister has been taken to the Occuli HQ to be locked up pending your investigation.
>>24163288This.Her reaction to his appearance could seriously incriminate him.Meanwhile, get Mari/Peri to do a discreet once-over of his house.
Ssen: wait there 5 minutes and make all the whores wierded out.Ssen's party: Oh, she's doing that THING again. Just give her a minute.
>>24163313I'm imagining the Jeopardy jingle playing in Ssen's head while she assesses rhe situation.
>>24163313>Ssen just staring at Sandover>Single bead of sweat forms on Sandover's brow>All of the girls looking around nervously>One of the them starts to say something>Is shushed by Mage
>>24163288"The Occuli recovered one of your employees who was gravely injured. We'd like to take you over to the Cups healing house to see her, and ask you a few questions to see if we can figure out what might have happened to her."Sandover's smile drops off his face and he blinks. "Uhh...yes. Of course. I'm happy to go. I mean, is she alright? Well...obviosuly not, but...you know what I mean."
>>24163288I still want to go with my original detective-badge approach.Then start searching the entire place.
>>24163192clearly the proper response.
>>24163354We could do this, actually. Just stare him down.
>>24163379We also shouldn't laugh at his joke.
>>24163369OK, now who is going and who is staying? I'd argue that Ssen should go with Sandover (since otherwise he'll more obviously notice the others staying behind); who else should go with Ssen and Sandover, and which 3 should stay?
>>24163369"I'm sure they'll tell you of the situation there, I wouldn't want to startle all of your workers. "Tack this on if you want, we have official reason for searching"We additionally are authorized to search your establishment for information related to said incident. If you demand it we'll tell you more, but time is of the essence in these investigations."
>>24163369"No. No she's not. You'll see when we get there."Have Peri/Mari, Mage, and Tricia stay behind. Lea and ourselves go with Sandover to the Cups.
>>24163369Uh, one minor correction:>>24163288>>24163289Didn't realize she was at the Occuli HQ and not actually at Cups. Wasn't my intention to say somewhere she wasn't. Argh.
>>24163399Do we really need to say that, or can we just wander off with him and leave the others to get to searching?
>>24163413correct ourselves."oh, and sandover, sorry, I meant she's at the occuli HQ. It's the end of a very long series of days, I misspoke."
>>24163420Official, yes we do.
>>24163369"She's...well. There's been an incident. She's lost both her legs."
>>24163391Peri needs to stay to canvas the place, Mage ought to come with us, as the ladies will only distract him. Lea lends real muscle and focused purpose to the searching party. Let Tricia make the call as to where she feels she'll do more good.
>>24163420yes, yes we do if we're going to have people search his shit.
If we don't tell them we have OFFICIAL BUSINESS here, the most we can do is case the joint. No searches. Just sayin.
>>24163430>>24163437>>24163446We're assuming that Paladin investigations work like modern-day police investigations. If they actually do, then fine; if they don't, then let's not play by rules that don't actually exist. Let's keep this entirely aboveboard, but not moreso than required.>>24163434Sounds reasonable, though I don't think the justification for Mage applies any more to him than everyone else.
>>24163399"I'm sure they'll tell you of the situation there, I wouldn't want to startle all of your workers. ""We additionally are authorized to search your establishment for information related to said incident. If you demand it we'll tell you more, but time is of the essence in these investigations."Congratulations, the party is no officially over, you are Ssen Patrick, queen of the buzzkills."Alright, everyone back inside who wishes to go," Jeremy says with a sad sigh. "I have to go sort these things out, until then, please follow what Paladin Patrick's Occulis tell you to do. I'm sorry." He motions for you to lead the way.Peri grabs your elbow as you walk by. "Any kind of evidence in particular I'm looking for?" She whispers, so Jeremy can't hear.
>>24163479"Porcelain masks, mind control, magic, the compass, anything suspicious. And question people about the girl and about Rachel."(And I'm assuming more than just Peri will be staying behind. Actually, Mage can sense magic to some degree; he might be particularly useful as a searcher. Who else?)
>>24163479"Anything to do with necromancy, the masks, the compass, poisons etc.""Mage and Mari would probably know what to look for more than me."
>>24163479"Journals, letters, masks, and anything that whiffs of strange magic. Keep an eye out for the compass as well. Also, anything related to blood. I think that covers it."
>>24163523This sounds good. And Lea can do most of the questioning.
>>24163479"Books, notes, journals. Letters from Overlord <forgot his name>. A mask similar to passions. I have my doubts we'll find anything hard against him here but do try."
>>24163530>Letters from Overlord <forgot his name>Trivalon
>>24163529(Or alternatively, Lea can come with us and Tricia can bug the place.)
>>24163511"Porcelain masks, mind control, magic, the compass, anything suspicious. Anything with Trivalon's name on it, and blood of course. Leaf through anything he's written down. And question people about the girl and about Rachel.""Got it, so who's helping me on this investigation?" Peri asks.
>>24163557Lea and Tricia.
>>24163557"Mage and Tricia. And Mari, of course."
>>24163557"Mage, and Tricia and of course Mari. We will take Lea to interrogate Sandover"
>>24163557"Mage and Tricia. See if either of them can do something about helping us keep tabs on this place also."
>>24163566>>24163573>>24163584"Mage and Tricia, and Mari of course.""Who do you think's going to be running this investigation?" Mari says. "See if either of them can make it so we have some tabs on the place. We'll take Lea to talk to Sandover, and...try to keep Mage's eyes and mind from wandering too much.""I can do that." Peri says. "Well, maybe not the last one.""I'll threaten to nail his magic spheres to the wall with my crossbow.""Mage's staff on has one...oh...can't believe it took me that long to get it. Damn, girl. You're getting to be the dirty one of us." Peri says."Learned from the best, good luck with the creep." Mari says.
>>24163623"Be careful you two, remember what you said about needing to stay two different people."Well, since our POV follows Ssen, we don't get to participate in the investigation or questioning right now. So, let's do what we said we'd do, and take Sandover to the vampire girl.
I suppose we'll take him to the office, then.It has been a long damn day. I can't wait to get to an inn. and get a bath
>>24163647"Be careful you two, remember what you said about needing to stay two different people.""Yes. I am aware." Peri says.You and Lea taker Jeremy Sandover to the Cups house, to the wing where there's now Occuli Guard."Oh dear." He says looking at all the security. "This...this happened to one of my girls? No. Oh please no. This is why I started my business to stop things like this." He frowns. "I mean, love is never ever supposed to end here." He sighs and puts a handkerchief to his mouth. "I'm sorry. This is just a little much.""Right in here." Lea points him into a viewing room. (Naturally they wouldn't have him in the same room as a vampire, there's a cage wall separating the two.) "Paladin Ssen will stay with you, and I'll go...show you what you need to see."Sandover nods. He looks at you with sad, concerned eyes. "I'm so sorry about all of this. I only pray that this wasn't done under my roof, it would...it would defeat everything I'm working towards. That poor woman."
>>24163737dont answer him, and keep an eye on both his reaction, and especially the vampire's reaction.hopefully she says master when she sees him, but who knows what the hell Echo has up his sleeve.
>>24163737Be prepared for any fast reaction he may have that might kill or incapacitate the vampire girl, or otherwise prevent her from talking. And be prepared to stop it.
>>24163737Just keep quiet, see what unfolds. Lamia stare mode initiated.
>>24163737"Hopefully not. Head forward, we'll see her soon."
>>24163794only use this if you won't want to stare, I don't mean to override those two other guys.
>>24163794"Hopefully not. Head forward, we'll see her soon."Lea goes into the other room with a sheet covered bed and whips it off revealing the vampire."Master Jeremy!" It says. "Tell me I'm pretty! Tell me I can stayyyyyyyy!""BY HIS LIGHT!" Sandover pushes himself against the wall and looks away. "Please...please no more! Take her away. Take her away!" Tears are running down his face. "Oh...oh God..." He drops to his knees and cries. "This is so...so awful...so awful." He's shaking.He's...not faking this.Seriously. He's utter horrified and upset.You're starting to have doubts about how rock-sure you were about him being the source of Citadel here. Not many...but just a little shred.
>>24163886My initial assumption is that he is a vain petty faggort. That has not changed. I really highly doubt he is aware that he is being groomed to be the next Dramatae. Its not like it is a secret order they just pull you into an alley to talk about. As the book said, it is likely a conscious choice like with the dragons...
>>24163886He's a good actor. An aspiring Dramatae for fuck's sake."Oh stand up, 'Master Jeremy,' you sent her to this fate, you and I both know that, so spare me the hysterics."
>>24163886"I'm sorry about the shocking nature of the situation. We have determined it to be vampirism. I hope you realize why we didn't break this to your crowd of girls, as conditions were. If you would know ANYTHING about this, anything at all, I would like to hear it. We have a very limited time frame before her judgement, and as it stands now, that judgement will be execution. I am not sure what kind of evidence we would find that would prove she wasn't acting in her right mind, but it's what we need."
>>24163921We are trying not to be shitty Law and Order tier cops if you don't mind.
>>24163886Ssen, he's still a wannabe Dramatae. He may care for his underlings, but he's still your enemy. Don't forgrt that.
>>24163886Well, "Master Jeremy" is potentially damning, but on the other hand perhaps all of his girls call him that. Or perhaps someone (Trivalon) told her to say that.Maybe Overseer Trivalon was a frequent customer.Is there *any* chance he's a ludicrously good actor, or is "he's not faking this" absolutely certain?>>24163921No, definitely not. That'd shut him down fast.>>24163922This sounds good. Also, tell him that she came after us outside of town, since either he knows that already or if he's not faking then it'd be news to him.
>>24163886>Seriously. He's utter horrified and upset.Yeah, because she's 'ugly,' Ssen. This guy is the textbook definition of vain.>>24163922I'll go with this for now. I'm kinda interested in how he responds.
>>24163946>Yeah, because she's 'ugly,' Ssen. This guy is the textbook definition of vain.This makes perfect sense.
>>24163942>No, definitely not. That'd shut him down fast.Solid point. Hmm I suppose it is best to let him think we buy his act until he hams it up in such a way as to let slip a bit of the truth
>>24163922thisI just had a thought, is Jeremy Sandover the ONLY Sandover? does he have a brother, or even a twin?
>>24163922"I'm sorry about the shocking nature of the situation. We have determined it to be vampirism. I hope you realize why we didn't break this to your crowd of girls, as conditions were. "If you would know ANYTHING about this, anything at all, I would like to hear it. We have a very limited time frame before her judgement, and as it stands now, that judgement will be execution. I am not sure what kind of evidence we would find that would prove she wasn't acting in her right mind, but it's what we need."He nods. "I know her. I know her. I know who that is. Helen. She used to work for me." He cries. "She got old, so I had to move her out from parlor work. I was going to make her one of the upper floor ladies, or see if she was interested in working at another place in the city, she got so angry...and then she ran off." He shakes his head. "She was always a quick temper, happy one day, sad the next, so I thought she'd just need some time to cool off...so she took off, and now..." He sniffs. "This is a nightmare...I don't." He sobs again. "How can I tell the others?" He asks you. "Please, please she couldn't have been in her right mind. Someone did this to her. She was hurt, and raving, and she had episodes. Paladin, please. I beg you for Mercy."
>>24163967Remember how you said out of control paranoia is not good. You're starting to go down that path.There's been no mention at /all/ about any of his family. You would think when questioning people about him someone would say something about brother or family.
>>24163986"What kind of episodes?""How long ago did she run off?""Does the name 'Shadow Sisters' mean anything to you?""Does Helen have any family?"
>>24163986>happy one day, sad the next>She was hurt, and raving, and she had episodes.Sounds like bipolar disorder, then? Well fuck, poor thing.
>>24164000meh was worth the thought.and we really haven't questioned very many people about him. all we really know is he is a renowned ex-cups healer, has a sleazy business and the Dramatae mentioned his last name>>24163986"Are there any others who have recently run off?"
>>24163986"I would truly love to give mercy, which is why I moved for an appeal. If I can gather evidence to prove she was not in control of herself, the execution will be put off. You can guess what the otherwise to this situation is.Do you have any idea who this "someone" who did it to her might be? We have a singular suspect, but there is always a chance of conspirators or stray undead in these situations.""And as for telling them, I'm not sure. I've got several families to tell about this incident yet. Several families."
>>24164017This good list to start with. What kind of place did Sand run again? Would there be 'regulars' that would come to see her and such?
>>24164030Perhaps, but it sounds like she was also very upset by Jeremy saying she was "old" (and presumably not sufficiently attractive), enough to run off and get vamped.>>24164032Good question to ask, since there are two more that we haven't told him about yet. "Perhaps others close to Helen?"
>>24164017"What kind of episodes?""She'd yell at people for hours on end for the smallest thing, then start crying. Or she'd lead everyone in this frenzied dance around the parlor for an hour, we loved that...she was just so energetic, usually. Sometimes she needed to be alone, but we got used to it.""How long ago did she run off?""Umm...when was the Ghoul Attack on Stone Hall? A little after that." He nods. "I remember because when we got news about the liberation, that was the same I day I talked to her about replacement.""Does the name 'Shadow Sisters' mean anything to you?"He shakes his head. "No...wait...no. Doesn't ring a bell.""Does Helen have any family?"Sandover shakes his head. "No. If she does they don't contact her. It's not surprising, given what I do. I think she was a result of this business, and she carried that with her. I suppose I should have been more receptive to her feelings, I'm the son of a whore as well." He sighs. "Awful."
>it turns out the only influence "forcing" her was the invisible hand of citadel>it is not admissable evidence in courtI predict sadsecutions.
>>24164054Honestly there was a cocktail of issues that coincided with her trotting off like that. You can be damn sure that Citadel's golden child declaring her (essentially) ugly and what Citadel might do in response to that wouldn't mix well with her vulnerable and volatile emotions.But we digress. This: >>24164050
>>24164064>He shakes his head. "No...wait...no. Doesn't ring a bell.""If there's anything that you know about these Shadow Sisters, even smallest detail will help.""Was there anyone that would come visit just for her?"
>>24164064Ssen, pray so that the truth be revealed so justice may be done.
>>24164032"Are there any others who have recently run off? People close to Helen?""Umm, I've had a few people quit in the past couple of weeks. It's not that big of a deal. I don't force anyone to stay and work with me." He shakes his head. "I did have two of my Upper Floor ladies quit. I threw them a party and everything. They knew Helen. Olivia and Penny.""Do you have any idea who this "someone" who did it to her might be? We have a singular suspect, but there is always a chance of conspirators or stray undead in these situations."Sandover shakes his head. "I don't know...I have my books back at my business. I try to keep straight records. So, please...look, look as much as you have to. Anything I can do to try and help her."
FUCKGUYSTHE SHADOW SISTERS ARE SPIRITS OF THE MACE THAT POSSESS GIRLSWE HAVE TO INTERROGATE THE MACE
>>24164098"If there's anything that you know about these Shadow Sisters, even smallest detail will help.""There's a stupid old legend back in the Citadel Houses, that if there's a rough client who escapes justice, the Shadow Sisters will find him and kill him...right before gelding him. Painfully." He shrugs. "A boogeyman for the brothel set.""Was there anyone that would come visit just for her?""Helen was a favorite for a lot of people, and she favored them too." He tries to think. "Umm...again, go over my books. I don't let people slink into the night in my business. I run a solid ship."
>>24164126Mark my words, something super strange is going on with that mace.SUPER strange.
>>24164064>"Umm...when was the Ghoul Attack on Stone Hall? A little after that." He nods. "I remember because when we got news about the liberation, that was the same I day I talked to her about replacement."So that'd be well before we first heard about Sandover from the Dramatae. If true.> "Umm, I've had a few people quit in the past couple of weeks. It's not that big of a deal. I don't force anyone to stay and work with me." He shakes his head. "I did have two of my Upper Floor ladies quit. I threw them a party and everything. They knew Helen. Olivia and Penny.""How long ago was that?"Also: "Did Helen, Olivia, or Penny have any frequent rregulars?">>24164127> "There's a stupid old legend back in the Citadel Houses, that if there's a rough client who escapes justice, the Shadow Sisters will find him and kill him...right before gelding him. Painfully." He shrugs. "A boogeyman for the brothel set."So either they're real, or these three just took on the mantle."Legends and boogeymen can be rooted in truth; do you know anything more about them, anything specific or local to Bronze Peak?"I don't want to bring it up until after we've gotten any other questions answered, but "Do you know an Overseer Trivalon?"
>>24164138>Also: "Did Helen, Olivia, or Penny have any frequent regulars?"Scratch that, we got that answer.
>>24164127"When we found her, she was wearing a white porcelain mask. Does that mean anything to you?"
After we finish investigating Sandover, we might want to try interrogating Overseer Trivalon. He probably won't tell us his plans, but he might be willing to tell us whether or not the vampires had any free will. We should probably also bring cheap alcohol and a coule glasses. He might be on the other side, but he is still a family friend.
>>24164127"Thank you for your cooperation, Mr. Sandover. The investigation will last for three days, after which time your business will return to as normal as it can be after such events. I hope you don't mind my occuli intruding some. Ideally, they'll find some information in her quarters or the books that clears all this up, but I've not had a case be ideal yet in my career.I am done with questions for now, I think. If you'd like to have some words with her, I could bring her back in. Otherwise, I can escort you back to your establishment."Only use this if we are done with questions.
As for mercy... right now her execution is on hold pending the results of the investigation. As I am the person who is requesting a stay of execution, it will fall to me to carry it out if I cannot prove her innocence.Believe me when I say I would rather not.
>>24164164"When we found her, she was wearing a white porcelain mask. Does that mean anything to you?"He shrugs. "We have a masque dance every full moon. I have Rachel make them for me. We got into a fight about them actually." He chuckles. "I like to have the unmasking be fun and we all smash our masks to bits. It's a custome from Purple Sands that I heard about and liked. Rachel got mad that all of her work was getting destroyed month after month, so she wanted more money. We fought...and then that accident." He shakes his head. "Ugh. I can't believe this...all this horrible sorrow in such a short time. We had a miscarriage at the house as well, plus a few girls got sick, I mean BAD sick...and now...now this." He sighs. "I try to smile and fight my way through it. I just want my people to be happy." He shakes his head. "If you find the bastard who did this to Helen, let me know. I will give you ANYTHING for two minutes alone in a room with him."
>>24164177"Thank you for your cooperation, Mr. Sandover. The investigation will last for three days, after which time your business will return to as normal as it can be after such events. I hope you don't mind my occuli intruding some. Ideally, they'll find some information in her quarters or the books that clears all this up, but I've not had a case be ideal yet in my career."I am done with questions for now, I think. If you'd like to have some words with her, I could bring her back in. Otherwise, I can escort you back to your establishment.""No, I want to go home. That...that isn't Helen. Not now." He looks broken.
>>24164222and now this sounds surprisingly like Citadel punishing him.
>>24164232okay. On the way back, we can tell him this.>>24164214Hopefully the gang has found some clues. And it isn't just a case of a crazy girl making stupid, legally responsible decisions.
>>24164239>>24164242Honestly, our main dislike of him from the beginning is he seemed like an obvious citadel shill.A whorehouse on its own? not so terrible. A citadel brainwashing whorehouse? BURN TO THE GROUND.
>>24164214"As for mercy... right now her execution is on hold pending the results of the investigation. As I am the person who is requesting a stay of execution, it will fall to me to carry it out if I cannot prove her innocence.Believe me when I say I would rather not.""I understand." Jeremy says. Completely hollow and empty."Ma'am?" An Occuli steps up to you as you start to escort Jeremy back to his home. "The prisoner is asking to speak with you. Now."
>>24164232OK, do we want to tell him anything we haven't yet told him? Overseer Trivalon?Also:>>24164222>We have a masque dance every full moon.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23914843/#p23923178>"Jeremy Sandover?" Comedy says.>"Yes, does he still do the ritual?" Peace asks.>"Yes, regularly." Comedy says.
>>24164242it sounds more like it is punishing him, else it would happen to only the one girl, and not all the other girls at the whorehouse.>>24164232"One final question, have you changed anything around recently?"
>>24164273"I want to go home." Jeremy says."If you like," Lea says. "I'll escort him back and help the others." She looks just as confused as you do as to how...sincere Jeremy's grief and anger at all of this horrible crap is. Plus, he isn't lying. You can usually smell the tang of a liar. This aint it.Either way, Trivalon wants to talk to you.
>>24164296I'm almost tempted to take him to see Trivalon. Is that a terrible idea?
>>24164296We've realized that neither the brothel nor Jeremy are evil. It's what Citadel is seeking to make of them.
>>24164273"The man? I'll speak with him. Lea, could I ask you to get sandover back to his place? he may need a bit of assistance. We'll perhaps question him more later.""Lead on."
>>24164296talk to trivalon."What are you doing calling me already? I haven't even had time to buy us some drinks yet. Oh well, spill it dry then."
>>24164296>Plus, he isn't lying. You can usually smell the tang of a liar. This aint it.He *might* have the ability to fool us. How are we with people who lie with the truth?
>>24164296Quick, we need alcohol! Surely one of the workers or occuli have a stash.
>>24164328Wanna know my theory?Something interrupted the masquerade balls, which was all that was keeping citadel from eating his whorehouse.
>>24164340Maybe this is a test from the Dramatae, to see if he can handle working under heavy pressure.
>>24164340That's...actually plausible. Perhaps triggered by the accident with Rachel, or her pulling out.And we've already heard that *she's* Citadel-blissed-out.Gah.
>>24164277>>24164285No, I think we should ask that question before he leaves. See if he *has* changed anything. Ask about the balls, specifically, and see if he held this month's on time.
>>24164319"The man? I'll speak with him. Lea, could I ask you to get sandover back to his place? he may need a bit of assistance. We'll perhaps question him more later."Lea nods, and comforts Jeremy. You sigh as you watch him go. You mistook that look. It was a man that wanted to be Citadel...because he believed in the lie. A whore's son who tried to make the Citadel lie of a 'Wholesome Whorehouse' come true in Bronze Peak. He almost had it, only to slowly find out that it wasn't possible, or that there were other difficulties that Citadel couldn't smooth over. But he still believed in the dream, so he smiled and tried, and tried, and tried...and now look.Fuck Citadel."Lead on." You say."This way, Ma'am." The Occuli leads you to a room where Trivalon is chained to a chair. Someone has actually come and put a bottle of vodka on the table and two glasses. He smiles as you."I was allowed one request. May we share a drink?" He asks, calmly. "If you do, I'll be more willing to talk." He looks at the other Occuli. "Alone, please."
>>24164352If he can't handle his workers getting hurt, then he sure as hell won't be able to handle burning down lightbringer home towns and slaughtering other cities to provide a heroic story.
>>24164376coldly tell the guards"Leave us."
>>24164376"Well, I had planned on going out and buying something fancy for the interrogation, but vodka will do. Leave us, watch the door. I'll call if there's a need."
>>24164376Seems pretty unlikely that he could have arranged for poison vodka. Nonetheless, see if we can smell it first and discern whether it's safe.In any case, sit and let him talk.
>>24164376"Go ahead, we need some privacy." Pour and down the first glass this time.
>>24164397"Well, I had planned on going out and buying something fancy for the interrogation, but vodka will do. Leave us, watch the door. I'll call if there's a need.""Ma'am." He leaves.You pour the vodka and serve him a glass. You wait until he drinks his and then down yours in one shot."Thank you." He says. "Poor Jeremy. I hope he does well."
>>24164429"This isn't about Jeremy. Why did you kill people to get that damn book? Did you think it would give you some sort of enlightenment? Did you think you could be the new Rage?
>>24164429"Would you prefer I called you Trivalon, or Passion?""How do you know Jeremy, exactly?"
>>24164429"He's not doing the best, no. Hopefully I'll be able to clear the girl we caught, if we're lucky we can find something to prove she wasn't acting of her own free will. Do you feel like admitting you forced some kind of magical compulsion on her? It'd make my job easier."
>>24164453This first, then this>>24164447
>>24164453Straight to the point. I like it.
>>24164447don't lead him on. Just "why did you kill people to get the damn book"See what tales he spins.
>>24164447"This isn't about Jeremy. Why did you kill people to get that damn book? Did you think it would give you some sort of enlightenment? Did you think you could be the new Rage?"The book was to help Jeremy during his audition...but now it wont be necessary." He shrugs. "There's no need to test the loyalty of someone who will take the Mask on willingly."He raises his glass to you."Now, when Peace comes to him, and offers him the opportunity to help people, to stop this kind of pain from hurting others, and a get out of vampirism AND your legs back ticket for Helen. He'll take it without a second thought. We thought that he would need to prove his worth to us, because he was such a self-made man...but you did the hard work for us. Thank you, Paladin Serpent. Cheers." He tips back his drink but pauses at the last moment. "Your Lea will be unharmed...not like she can do much to stop all three of them, anyway. You can collect her on your way back." He downs his drink with a wide smile.
>>24164496>"Now, when Peace comes to him, and offers him the opportunity to help people, to stop this kind of pain from hurting others, and a get out of vampirism AND your legs back ticket for Helen. He'll take it without a second thought. We thought that he would need to prove his worth to us, because he was such a self-made man...but you did the hard work for us. Thank you, Paladin Serpent. Cheers." He tips back his drink but pauses at the last moment. "Your Lea will be unharmed...not like she can do much to stop all three of them, anyway. You can collect her on your way back." He downs his drink with a wide smile....I have no words, except that I think Trivalon just demonstrated that he's far more qualified to be RAGE!
>>24164496WELP! Srsly fuck Peace. This bitch needs to die.
>>24164496Quietly stand.Burst out the door after lea.
>>24164496"Father would be so disappointed. I guess you weren't cut out for the Light."Leave and collect an unhappy Lea.
>>24164533Yeah, we can come back and question him later; there's *some* chance we might catch them.
>>24164533You finish your glass and raise yourself up to a height so you look down on Trivalon. Then you bolt, faster than you've even gone in your life.Roll 3d20. Target's high but possible.
Rolled 18, 8, 1 = 27>>24164546
Rolled 6, 2, 4 = 12>>24164546
Rolled 6, 5, 7 = 18>>24164546Heres hoping for the best. But considering our history i doubt it
Rolled 18, 3, 1 = 22>>24164546I swear to dice gods citadel, I SWEAR TO DICE GODS
>>24164548Does a reroll have to reroll the whole 3d20, or a die? Because I vote we spend a reroll here on that 1.
>>24164548That's not enough.Re-roll?
>>24164548almost exactly average.Too bad we can't reroll JUST that 1.
>>24164562I don't know, the target's pretty high. it'd likely be a waste.
>>24164562considering we have yet to break 30 on 3d20 I am leaning towards no
Nope, all or nothing.
>>24164575We have two rerolls. Let's do it.
>>24164562Why bother rerolling? Even catching up to them won't help too much, since we probably can't fight them. We should just save the reroll for later.
>>24164574The target's 33.
>>24164585Archivist, it's your call
>>24164581The goal isn't to catch up to them, the goal is to get to Lea and Jeremy *before* they do.
>>24164585Yeah no. The dice hate us anyway. So why bother.
>>24164588I'd like to point out that if we *can* get to Jeremy before the Dramatae do, we could potentially win a rather major victory over them, denying them their Rage.We've rerolled for simple combat before. How about for a major story point?
>>24164591Then what? Do we try to kill Jeremy before they show up? They're still going to get there, whether we make it or not.
>>24164599We'd use our epic Paladin Diplomacy to convince him not to take the mask willingly.
>>24164585All we have to do is roll an average of 11. So we just have to get decent rolls.
Rolled 9, 1, 11 = 21>>24164588do it. roll attached.
>>24164598Umm how do we deny them Rage? All Peace has to do is freeze time and then when we wake up there a new Rage.
>>24164608And NOPE! Why did we bother wasting the re-roll?
>>24164608Nope...Archivist, Stitcher if you want to burn your last reroll, and I'm NOT going to give them out as freely as I did last time, I'll let you pass this roll.Your call. Live with losing Jeremy at this moment, or lose your safety net for a good long time.
Ssen:Take up smoking.
>>24164630dont do itAlso didn't we get another reroll from the little adventures post?
>>24164630For a pass? Worth it. We'll survive.Let's win today.
>>24164630I'm willing to risk it. We can't call ourselves a pladain we don't do this.
>>24164651It hasn't been drawn yet.
>>24164642of course I forget my picture.Anyway, if it's a garunteed success, I say go for it. Sandover is literally the doctor who cured cancer if I remember correctly, and as such is a major asset no matter which side he is on. Hence, a soon to be dramatae asset.
>>24164630>Safety Net>Any chance of anything truly devastating happening in a /tg/ quest.Your hilarious.
>>24164654We shouldn't be calling ourselves a pladain at all. That's silly.
>>24164682Please don't tempt the echo.
>>24164630i would say no if rerolls are going to be harder to get, I cant draw for crap and that seems to be where the majority of our rerolls come from.hell we nearly died from some stupid arrows in thread 8 or so, really dont feel safe without a reroll due to /tg/ dice
>>24164703speaking of:When this is all over?Buying healing potions.
>>24164684We are the Great Serpent Pladain. Evil beware!
>>24164697No i AM going to tempt him. Because i KNOW, just like every SINGLE other /tg/ GM he wont let anything bad happen to his mains, because he doesnt want the quest to end or piss off his players.
You surge through the streets dodging right and left, pushing a few people out of the way and bearing your fangs at a herd of stray cats so they scatter.You see Lea and Jeremy walking, the man leaning on Lea's shoulder."LEA!" You scream and lunge for the both of them.They both turn around, and get the fright of their lives seeing a lamia hurling itself at them, mouth wide open, fangs bared, eyes wide with insane focus.You collide into the both of them.Just at the same moment as time stops in Bronze Peak.People are in mid step, water is in mid pour, and little bats are in mid-flight-flap. The world is halted. Such is the power of the Dramatae.
>>24164703So we learn to be a bit more cautious in battle, and carry some more healing. We can cope.We've had our butts kicked by the Dramatae. But we also won big against them in Stone Hall. Let's win big against them again. Deny them their Rage, and get an asset back on the side of the Light. And win with the dragon too.
>>24164721look, I know you have petpeeves, but I like my party members to still have their kneecaps and free will in the morning.
>>24164729So, no reroll here? Yeah, about right.See you later, sandover. Hopefully you are a poison pill for the dramatae.
>>24164735Bah that not a petpeeve at all. Having been in PLENTY of /tg/ quests you usually see this once. The PC or assorted waifu are, by all means of the shitty dice rolls, going to die. /tg/ cries and screams about it and the GM, not wanting his quest to end or his players to leave due to their attachments to said PC or waifu, undoes everything and makes it right again.
>>24164780but that is almost specifically what a pet peeve is, by definition.
>>24164795How the fuck is simple experience a petpeeve? Please explain.
>>24164806if it's a simple experience that most everyone goes through, but it gets on your nerves specifically...it's a petpeeve.
>>24164795>>24164806>>24164818Forget about it. Quest time.
>>24164823but I am waiting for dramatae to do stuff. I am pretty sure.
>>24164729Of course, when they bring Jeremy into time, they could have accounted for the woman at his side...but him being in a mid air collision with two people, one of them a 14ft long lamia? Yeah, they don't get that precise.The three of you hit the ground in a heap."Ssen!? What in...the...Darkness..." Leas looks around. "Oh." There's a pause. "Shit." She says."What? What's going on?" Jeremy asks as he pulls himself up."Jeremy Sandover, we have heard your suffering." You hear Peace's genderless voice and see the Dramatae appear at the end of the street. "We are here to see if you are up to the..." He pauses as he sees that you and Lea are moving as well. "How?" Comedy asks. You can tell now, Comedy's female."Passion." Peace says."That idiot." Tragedy says. Tragedy's male."I told you that you should have sent one of us to see to it. You can never rely on ANY of the Passions!" Comedy snaps."You were needed to help the Lightbringers.""They're. Morons." Tragedy says. "Plus the girl is starting to be...difficult. We should start over, wouldn't be the first time.""Enough." Peace says. Peace is still calm as ever, but you notice that there's a slight rise in tone. Comedy and Tragedy have always been his bootlickers...until now."Who are they? What's going on?" Jeremy asks.
>>24164823I HIGHLY doubt we are interrupting a cutscene with this.>>24164818It doesnt irritate me. What irritates me is ppl acting like bad things will happen to us if we dont have our precious "re-roll shield". Thats hilarious.
>>24164829"They're the Dramatae. They want you to join them and be the new Rage. That is why these things have been happening. They wanted to test you and force you to be loyal to them."
>>24164829this>>24164854plus"The ones ultimately responsible for Helen's condition."
>>24164829Men who seek to kill thousands of innocents in order to ensure the stagnation of the world. Liars and deceivers all. They're the reason for everything that's been happening around you as of late. The reason for Helen.
>>24164829"Well, the short explanation is they just admitted to supporting the suspect aliased as "passion", behind the necromancy scare. The long story is inconsistent and confusing."
>>24164863Yes, this. Also, "The man who was controlling the vampires, including Helen, Olivia, and Penny, was Passion, one of their followers. Meet Peace, Comedy, and Tragedy. They're controlling the story of your life. Notice how everything has been going badly for you lately? They'd like to make it all better, and they won't tell you they're the ones who made it worse to begin with. And all it'll cost is your soul."
>>24164829They are the ones that hurt your women!
>>24164853>that's hilariousOh man are you in for a bad time.
>>24164889Nah, id actually approve if he started killing off the party. Would be a LOVELY change of pace foe once.
>>24164829Are we frozen?Like right now?We have a legitimate crack at peace. It's way early, and he probably has like 50 magic protections, buuuuut....
>>24164854"They're the Dramatae. Men who seek to kill thousands of innocents in order to ensure the stagnation of the world. Liars and deceivers all. They're the reason for everything that's been happening around you as of late. The reason for Helen. They want you to join them.""The man who was controlling the vampires, including Helen, Olivia, and Penny, was Passion, one of their followers. Meet Peace, Comedy, and Tragedy. They're controlling the story of your life. Notice how everything has been going badly for you lately? They'd like to make it all better, and they won't tell you they're the ones who made it worse to begin with. And all it'll cost is your soul."Jeremy gets up and stands behind the both of you. "Why me? I'm...I'm no mage or warrior. I'm a son of a whore, who runs a brothel inside of a mountain. What do they want with me?"
>>24164903Oh no, he's not going to do that. He's just going to add more suffering. Like he does every time we fail.
Rolled 8, 15 + 2 = 25>>24164721>tg/ GM he wont let anything bad happen to his mainsYeah, it's not like we jumped in front of crossbow bolt poisoned with the only substance that could actually kill us.And it's not like we survived, but were disfigured by the effects of the poison.
>>24164906Nope feel free to start swinging at it.
>>24164906You mean snipe one of the Dramatae with an arrow? We'd need a high roll for that.
>>24164913And its not like we weren't in a coma for three fucking months.
>>24164912And you have just proven my point. RIGHT THERE.>>24164913And its not like we werent cure instantly with mystical bullshit from Granny. NOR did having such a poison in us for a LARGE amount of time affect our stats in ANY way.
>>24164913or nearly died from poisoned paralytic arrow crits, and where only saved by Tricia rolling well with her cure poison/heal, and the rest of the party zerking out.>>24164906bad idea, we just get refrozen, or dead.even if we did bite peace, the other 2 would tear us apart.
>>24164927>>24164913and it's not like that coma didn't result in the near death of many of our friends, the actual death of olyvia, or the mass culling of the first "new stone hall" while we were out.The death toll on that is at least the dozens.
>>24164935> affect our stats in ANY way.We have stats?
>>24164908"They don't need powerful mages or warriors. They just need suffering and sacrifice, just like the monster they feed. The last Rage died because he wanted to stop his home town from being destroyed."
>>24164935>prove your pointNo, actually, your point was waaaaaaay back here.>>24164682you didn't specify death until recently, you dishonest goalpost changing contrarian.
>>24164942Of course we do. How else do you think the GM keeps track of our progress. Hes said several times that we have barely succeeded due to our +1s and 2s.
>>24164942We have different bonuses and hit chances for different attacks and weapons. The whole party does.
>>24164908"I am unsure why they chose you exactly, but your history as a Cups healer of high renown probably has part to do with it."
>>24164952If he kills off NPCs or adds "Misery" to our quest it wont have any real effect on the players. Hell /tg/ whined about the disfigurement until Echo cured it with Granny's Magic, so really that is apparently devastating as well.
>>24164908>why me?"You matter. And you wanted to help."
>>24164908"That's exactly why they want you, Jeremy. Power they already have; they want normal people, who just want the world to keep on turning exactly as it has with no changes, no matter who they have to kill or sacrifice to keep it that way. You just want to take care of your employees and your friends, and take revenge on whoever hurt them. They think they're taking care of all of Citadel the same way.">>24164952Good idea."They killed the last Rage because he didn't play along with them. Now they want you as the new Rage. As long as you play along."
>>24164986Sure bro, keep ignoring inconsequential deaths. They didn't matter.
at some point we have to turn to the humors"Yes, I know I'm badmouthing you to this guy, if you wait a moment you'll get your turn. I am very dissapointed in ALL of you!"
>>24165009Well then whats deaths mattered to you so much? Please tell me.
>>24164979Should we bring up the "ritual" he does that the Dramatae expressed an interest in?
Just stop replying to him.
>>24165024olyvia, first stone hall massacre, and those damn vampires are currently weighing on me. Also that riot we caused a little.You don't know how much I worredly paced when those things were going on.
>>24164947"They don't need powerful mages or warriors. They just need suffering and sacrifice, just like the monster they feed. The last Rage died because he wanted to stop his home town from being destroyed.""The worst kind of power, the worst kind of atrocities are done by people who just want to 'fix' things...to make things 'better,' to...to..." Lea pauses and staggers. Blood starts to drip out from her eyes."Enough. No more speeches." Peace says, their hand is outstretched and pointing at a twitching Lea.Comedy and Tragedy both laugh softly. "FI-nally!" Comedy says."This I will enjoy." Tragedy says."No...no stop this! Stop it now!" Jeremy says. "I'll...I'll join you. I'll...urk..." Blood starts to drip from HIS eyes now and he twitches."Oooh. I see what's happening!" Tragedy says."Love, love it! Oh Peace, you are never ever wrong. Art! Pure art!" Comedy says.Peace looks at him. "The moment passed. You are not what we need." Peace looks at you. "You have disrupted our work for the third time.""Fourth" Tragedy says."Personal issues don't count." Comedy says. "I didn't bitch about my baby Donnie!""You know what I will say next, lamia." Peace says. "So just tell me which one you want to keep."Comedy and Tragedy both draw swords. They glow blue. "Try anything on Peace," Comedy says."And we'll make sure that it's YOUR corpse on the ground." Tragedy finished."Not what I was going to say, but close. No third option, bitch." Comedy says. "Pick one. Now."
>>24165039Yeah, okay. If he doesn't recognize the validity of olyvia and first stone hall, then he's not really worth it.
>>24165047How does a massacre or a plot twist that we have nothing to do with and literally could not do anything more to stop than we did weigh on you? Srsly what?
>>24165060We pick Comedy.
>>24165060>>24165073I am having a really hard time choosing between a humor and lea. Specifically, peace or lea.Sandover, you are a great guy, but it's lea bro. Sorry we got you tangled up in this shit.
>>24165097If this is the case why did we bother wasting the re-roll?
>>24165097To further build on that:I want to come out of this with lea, but I don't know which one to pick. They might be "Oh, you picked lea? okay, she dies!"
>>24165103It means they still lack a Rage.
>>24165103From a pragmatic or a moral viewpoint? Because we are gaining a significant pragmatic boon by denything them a rage, and there was significant moral backing for it as well.
>>24165060Lea, and hope he does not kill our choice.also pray to the Light.
>>24165110Umm how. We are apperently turning to save Lea. So Sandover will become Rage. Therefore all of those re-rolls were wasted.
>>24165126please read the last, like, three echo posts over again.
>>24165126Pretty sure they just said they don't want him anymore.
>>24165122If you want that, say it explicitly: "Lea lives. I'm sorry, Sandover.".Either that or we say something like "You could kill us all at any time. Why should I play your games?"
>>24165060Lea. She's our comrade in arms. As a leader, our responsibility is to her. We didn't kill Sandover, they did.
>>24165060"I obviously choose for Lea to live, sorry Sandover, but why are you even doing this? Surely you didn't have to orchestrate this easily disrupted ridiculousness just to convince someone to join you."
>>24165160no, we didn't kill him, but we DID play into the dramatae's hands, thus ensuring he died.Therefore: Add one to the amount of vodkas we need to dump on graves on our yearly vodka grave dumping day.All paladins have something similar.
You know, if they can directly kill people, why do they go to so much trouble to act indirectly?It looks rather high-stakes, but I have to wonder if this is either an illusion (entirely mental) or them not actually going to go through with it.That said, I don't know how to *act* on that wondering.
>>24165167You're entirely right; they know how this story plays out. Might as well call them on it. "So, either I pick Lea, because we've traveled together as friends and companions for longer, and Sandover gets pissed that we don't choose him and becomes Rage, or one of my friends dies? Sorry, Sandover, but that's not really a choice, and I hope you see why. Lea lives, if this is even real."
>>24165170>The few sad limits of foresight:You can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved.You can't save someone from themself.Your can't save everyone.
Wonder if we could pick Comedy's head with an arrow at high speed. That should be a barrel of laughs.
>>24165060Linking to Echo's post:>>24165190
I just... can't write a good pithy response to these maskmenI keep trying.
>>24165167>>24165160>>24165136Imma play the devils advocated and say save Sandover or kill Peace.
<Killing Jeremy will do nothing but slow them down.> A voice says in the Lizard Tongue. You see something behind the Dramatae. It's in the reflection of one of the frozen fountains. It's the Fifth.<Keeping him alive will hurt them. It will start a chain of events that will free Bronze Peak. Your foothold will solidify, and we can begin our attack on them. Did you think you could win this war without losing a solider?>You ignore the Fifth and look at Peace. "You could kill us all at any time. Why should I play your games?"Peace doesn't say anything."It's not for a monster to question our methods!" Comedy snaps."We serve Citadel! It's needs and Wants are greater than any...even ours." Tragedy says.Ahh, so even the Dramatae are stuck in their own little web. They WANT to kill the Dawnchasers, swoop in and smother you all in your beds...but that would be boring...wouldn't it? And Citadel HATES boring."If I say, 'I choose Lea' does that mean you're just going to say 'Okay, Lea dies' or if I choose Jeremy you say 'Okay, Jeremy lives. Lea dies.' That kind of trick?"Peace shakes their head. "You are exceptionally bright, and infuriatingly dull.""Just kill Sandover, and get ON with it." Comedy says."No, the bandage zealot." Tragedy says. "Never go wrong with one less Caligo Clarus."Peace turns to look at the two of his subordinates.This is your ONE shot. A tail swipe can knock both Jeremy and Lea out of Peace's grip. You'll only get one shot at this. Tell me who you're trying to swipe out of the way first, and then I'll give you your rolls.
>>24165193>>24165073Kill Comedy.I don't think we can take Peace while he's got backup, and I'm damned sure his cronies aren't nearly as badass as he is.
>>24165207>Kill peaceDad made the same mistake
>>24165213If we have a chance at both, swipe Lea first then Jeremy.
>>24165136>>24165160>>24165167>Pity Sandover, try to form a bond with him, waste two of your Precious re-rolls" on him.>As soon as your waifu is threatened drop him like a hot potato.Never change /tg/
>>24165220>>24165226...Is this what Lea would want, though?
>>24165213Lea then Jeremy. I still don't trust the fifth and even if we fail...We never negotiate with terrorists.
>>24165227you mean our rider, right?
>>24165213(I'm assuming that there's no chance that swiping at Peace will break its hold on both. Safe assumption, yes?)
>>24165227>Sweet talk suspect, come to find he's not that evil just pathetic.>save loyal soldier over a pimpNever stop missing the point, anon
I excuse myself from this decision making on the excuse that I am going to go vomit now. Paladin work does not agree with me.
>>24165244(Too far away)>>24165220>>24165226>>24165234Roll 1d20
Rolled 18>>24165254Here goes.
>>24165258Roll 1d20 again
>>24165213Wait, we can do arrow and tail swipe together cant we Echo. Why not both
>>24165249Apparently you cared enough to waste ALL of your re-rolls on him, so no i dont think im missing the point here.
>>24165271>>24165277FUCK YEA I PUT THE "ME" IN MEDIOCRITY
>>24165287Well at least its above ten.And we've got bonuses to it, right? +2?The target number is 15 yeah?
>>24165272Yep. He's important.Lea's more important, though. Especially since her death has been foreshadowed like twice so far.
>>24165272WE didn't waste them on Jeremy, we used them to avoid another Rage.
>>24165213"I reject your story Peace. I am a beacon that shines in your darkness. It is my way to save all that I can, not Sacrifice to placate a monster.
>>24165296No idea. These are not ordinary circumstances.
>>24165306actually, I was sort of hoping to capture a living jeremy.He's invented new medical procedures inside of citadel space. That's impressive to me.
>Dramatae specifically forcing the paladin to choose between these two options>at the behest of citadel, who insists on making paladins fall>they would have been smart villains and killed you already otherwiseCitadel, you are the most that DM. The most.
>>24165337The one reason you need to know that a Paladin can never be forced to fall:There is -always- a third option.
I'm presuming we have Beacon and Clang with us. Right?
>>24165271Peace turns and the moment that Peace does, they realizes that they've made a mistake.Comedy and Tragedy take a step forward, blades pointing out blue-black hellfire leaping from their blades to stop you.But you are a Lamia. Heir to those that dominate the sky and sea. The Beautiful One who wears that insult with pride. The degenerate offspring that's become one of the most important people in the Kindgom.And you are a fast motherfucker with your tail.Your side slams into Lea and keeps going pushing her into Sandover and forcing them to the side.They both land with a crash into a stand of time-frozen fish and ice.Then with a nasty jerk that you think made your ears pop, time returns. The Dramatae aren't THAT all powerful it seems. That or you broke Peace's concentration.The crowd stares at the scene. Two people lying in a heap of fish and ice. The Paladin Serpent standing there...and three strange people in Masks. Two of them with flaming swords...pointing at a known Paladin."Thats. IT." Comedy says. "Kid gloves are off bitch!""I will see you and your Order BURN." Tragedy says. "You are an unending insult!"You point Beacon at Peace. "I reject your story Peace. I am a beacon that shines in your darkness. It is my way to save all that I can, not Sacrifice to placate a monster."Peace looks at you, and you get the sense that you've actually caused the being behind to mask to feel an emotion for the first time.There's no need for a Rage anymore...they have enough between the three of them to make up for it.Peace snaps their fingers and the three vanish.
>>24165358>implying we ever don't have clang with us
>>24165376And that my friends is how you paladin
>>24165376Attend to your friends."Hey! You two! Can you hear? Can you see?"If this doesn't work, begin operation snaketrain and get them back to the caligo headquarters STAT.
>>24165382>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53CPuFgBK7E#t=2m21sNo, no, you forgot.Those two vampires, and that occuli.We don't have an "everyone lives" yet.
>>24165376and THAT was worth 2 fucking rerolls.
>>24165399no, no, I gotta say. Most of the best paladins would have sacrificed themselves there.Our saving grace is we aren't the very best there ever was.
>>24165420I guess ill have to give you that.
>>24165376Not only have we saved both of them, but we just showed an entire crowd the Dramatae, furious with us.(And we have a clearer explanation for why they can't just snap their fingers and kill us all. Gotta respect the story.)This is a good day.>>24165258>>24165271*hugs /tg/ dice*
>>24165415"Just this once, everybody lives.""Just this once."
>>24165376FUCK YEAH MOTHERFUCKER!FUCK YEAH!
>>24165376I really hope we get to take a shower before the end of the thread.the crustiest of armors
>>24165461Just another paladin indignity, gladly suffered.But yeah, probably need some cleaning off before we sit or lie down on anything.
>>24165382"What happened?" Jeremy moans."Ssen did." Lea says, slipping on the ice and fish. "You think you get used to it...but not really. Because just when you think you've gotten a hang of it...you find that you have a dead mackerel stuck in the bandages that bind your breasts." She says. Dead. Must sleep. next threat 1pm-3pm, 4-10-13. Archive. Thanks. His Light be with you.
>>24165473Archived, you crazy bastard
>>24165473>4-10-13tomorrow?TOMORROW?We get two in a row on a not-weekend?I am more grateful than you know.
>>24165473"Have Jeremy help you with that. I'm sure he knows his way around bindings, given his profession."
>>24165473His Light be with you too. It certainly shined on your quest-running today.> dead mackerelMmmmm, tasty fish for the newly discovered half-leviathan.
>>24165473Thanks for the thread Echo, this is the most anticipated /tg/ quest for me now (especially since most of the others I like are few and are between).
>>24165488"today", for most of us. Worth every second of missed sleep. And that's a lot of seconds.>>24165502This, ever so much this.
>>24165502man I am super glad I dropped into the first thread.IT was almost immediately my favorite.
>>24165473Hoooooly shit. I need a nap. Also pretty sad that the thread starts RIGHT when my shift starts at work. Feel free to start it at the later end of that time window, Echo and get some extra sleep.
>>24165516>no, it's today now>check clockOh dear god
I was just about to go to sleep when I realized-Citadel is interested in our story.Citadel is forcing us into moral decisions.Citadel... thinks of us as potential lightbringers.
>>24165626>no 4chan you are the citadels
>>24165626While it's probably not quite right what you said did make me think.If Citadel thinks of us as potential lightbringers, and our enemies are the Dramatae, I wonder how the Dramatae would react if they realised that Citadel expected them to die to complete the latest lightbringer story.
>>24166291Poorly, i bet. Although tragedy might just accept it. They seem to display some deep-seated regrets over past failings. Likely in a position similar to that in which Ssen and her cadre find themselves. Chances are, they deeply resent Citadel.