You are Ssen, a Lamia raised by a human Paladin who adopted you after killing the ones who birthed you. You are grown now, and Father has passed on. You have decided to see the world, and possibly become a Paladin like your Father. You are accompanied by your best friend from childhood, the insect druid Tricia; Mage, a magic user who ran away from his family of cannibal raiders known as the Ghouls (Yes, his name is Mage. It was his idea); Persephone, a 22-year old thief/ex-guerllia fighter (She goes by Peri), and Mary, a 13-year old prodigy scholar/now sniper, who has her mind and soul trapped within Peri's body; and Lea, a deeply religious musician/martial artist, trained by her father, a famous trainer for arena fighters, she's covered from her mouth down in bandages to hide the horrific state her body has become thanks to the 'cures' that saved her from cancer.Your journey continues...( Opening theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvZgKRAacFc )http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Lamia%20Quest
>>23847432Right on time, you glorious fuck.
Ah, lamia quest. The perfect thing to top off a good day.
>>23847432we should get a shield like that.
>>23847502we should get ANY SHIELD
>>23847502Nay, Father's coat of arms.
>>23847432Damn you and your later hours!I used to be able to get in on these quests, now you don't start until I'm about ready to fall asleep.
>>23847555he does earlier hours at other times of the week.
>>23847570Really? I've been noticing it getting slowly later and later as the days go by.
>>23847555Adderall, caffeine and a habanero buttplug.Ancient Chinese secret.
The execution of Robin, Barney, Gregory, and Ambrose was derailed, thanks to a miracle. His Light shown down upon Citadel and showed these men to be innocent of an wrong doing.(Any help that you six might have provided to cause said miracle isn't something that needs to be examined. Though you may owe the executioner a fruit basket or at least a get well card.)Paladin Odette, seeing her last chance at regaining her high and mighty status, snapped, and in that moment allowed the Citadel's influence to take complete control over her.She ran to the Cathedral, to destroy what she felt was the rest of the Claigo Clarus. Father's statue and the book of records, that chronicled all those who served the Guiding Light during the Citadel Ages.You pursued her, and managed to get by all the tricks and assaults Citadel threw in your way. You caught Paladin Bobbi Odette, and offered her your forgiveness and a chance at salvation. The woman spat it back into your face.Uncle Julian arrived to inform you that the King had declared this day to have Not Existed, there was no botched execution, the men were never charged, and Paladin Odette wasn't in any sort of trouble. You released her.However, Odette's arrogance wasn't done yet. Maybe she didn't want to be in a world where a lamia could be a Paladin, maybe she didn't want to accept that she was Wrong and live with that, maybe she just wanted to spite you and your forgiveness. Perhaps all of it, Citadel, and more.Either way, she leapt out of the tallest window of the Grand Cathedral and fell to her death.She didn't go splat though, you ran out to see her in one piece, dead, but her face was calm and smiling, like she was content.And since this day doesn't exist, she never committed suicide. She's dead, and her soul is free to go to His Light...or whatever happens to those that die inside Citadel's walls.Julian has also told you that your Paladin confirmation is tomorrow.
Alright thank Julian for the information. Ask if he knows where the former prisoners went We should go find Sophia, Gregory and the others. We have plans to make and people to get out of Citadel.
>>23847622The group watches as the Red Occuli take Odette's body away."Is it wrong that I don't feel bad for her?" Mari asks.Lea shakes her head. "Morn the loss of a life, not for the life that was already wasted."
>>23847665Nod solemnly, then this>>23847663
>>23847555 I'll be on earlier tomorrow, please remember. I'm West Coast. I'm pretty much always late.
>>23847686I'm on GMT times, pretty much every quest is late for me.
>>23847663"Uncle?" You ask. "Where are Gregory, and Barney, and the others?""They're gathered at the tinkers house." He said. "I think they were throwing everything they could into a wagon."
>Stone Hall, thanks to the trauma of the attack and the generic screw up of the Humors, isn't part of Citadel anymore. It's a safe zone like the Caligo Clarus attic. So does that mean it would act sort of like monteriggioni in Assassin's Creed 2?>>23847555>Damn you and your later hours!>I used to be able to get in on these quests, now you don't start until I'm about ready to fall asleep.Ageeed, and on that note: fuck timezones.
>>23847781We should probably go talk to them before they scarper.
>>23847781"I think I'll go talk to them about what happened today. Do be sure to tell me when we schedule odette's funeral. It's a shame."
>>23847781Alright sounds like they have the same idea as us. Lets go talk to them,
>>23847796At Barney's workshop you see four men loading up the wagon with an assortment of scrolls, and a bunch of clothes, furniture, and other personal goods."No, no." Barney says. "That's a special barrel. You put ice in this bladder and it makes the drinks cool when they come out of the spigot!""We don't have room." Gregory says. "Remember, we have to go get Ambrose's books.""You can always build another Barnabas." The old man says."Do you know how long it took me to properly treat and sow the pig bladders inside of that thing? Anyway, Trapper's books would fill this thing two times over!""I don't see why you three have to leave." The fourth man says, you don't recognize him. He's an elf, but he's also got a mass of hair hanging over his eyes. "You got pardons.""From the king, yeah...but I don't want to stay and see if the citizenry change THEIR minds on it." Gregory says."Aww, that one's my favorite!" Barney says about the calling card press."It almost got us killed!" Gregory snaps.
>>23847781We should go check up on them. Stonehall may have a good use for an inventor, and I'm sure a librarian and master tailor can find some work there. It may do them good to move there and see if they can carve out a better life for themselves than in the shadow of Citadel. It may behoove Ssen & Co. to see them safely to Stonehall if it isn't *too* out of the way from the path to Bronze Peaks. Besides, Ssen may also want to catch up with Granny about some other stuff.It might also be a good idea to catch up with Robin and see what his long-term plans are. While he's undoubtedly biding his time for a chance to get the Nightmare back to the Fey, some talking to him may convince him that letting the Nightmare tag along with us might be in the best interests of the Fey (us working actively against Citadel and/or to the ruin of Citadel = good for Fey). It might be worth seeing if we could convince him and/or his band to join up with us.
>>23847894"Aww, but that one was one of my favorites too!So where are you all going?"
>>23847894"Technically, Paladin Odette's need for a scapegoat got you nearly killed."
>>23847894Suggest heading to Stonehall. We have something to discuss with them, and we'll join them there shortly.I kind of wish we could go with them avoid them falling foul of Citadel dickery on-route, but we can't really afford to miss our induction into the paladins if we want to rescue Isen.
sorry for the terribad phone picture quality, but I wanted to share my WIP group portrait with you guys. I'll actually scan it when I'm done, but I am not always around when the thread is going, so I wanted to at least share this. I love the quest so far, and Echo, you are a brilliant DM.
>>23847894How big is our wagon again? Because I don't think we ... well I wouldn't mind helping move some of Ambrose's books. Knowledge is always a powerful tool to have on hand. That is if they're heading to Stonehall. (Think that's what that place was called.)
>>23847970"Aww, but that one was one of my favorites too!So where are you all going?""Whoa!" The elf says. he's munching on an apple. "She really is a lamia!""Our savior!" Barney says. He goes over to you and hugs you kissing you on both cheeks. "Oh, a thousand thank yous, your prayers brought us a miracle!"Gregory nods. "I can't thank you enough for what you did for Sophie. We decided that an extended vacation might be a good idea. White Tree's nice this time of year, and not too far."Ambrose nods. "We were just deciding what Barnabas can keep or leave, before going to my place.""They're bolting." The elf says.
>>23848079"You know, if you went to Stonehall I could send a letter with you, put in a good word for you. It might help you get set up there."I think sending them to a place where Citadel has no control is probably the best bet. It was Stonehall that had its Citadel control broken, yes?
>>23848079Just going to say what I said yesterday, about recommending they head to stone hall and all that. That and dwarven materials to help the inventor and whatnot.Though... white tree would be amusing once we get our paladinship.
>>23848079(Which one was white tree? I know we passed it.Was that our hometown? I can't recall. Also, is stone hall on the way to bronze peaks?)
>>23848079"Don't blame them. I would be out of here also if didn't have few pieces of business to take care of."What happen to Robin? Already took off I take it."Plus this >>23848127
>>23848079"After what's happened, I'm not surprised. If you want, the Dawnchasers will escort you out of Citadel once my confirmation is done."This way, we can kill two birds with one stone.
>>23848127"You know, if you went to Stonehall I could send a letter with you, put in a good word for you. It might help you get set up there.""Stone Hall?" Ambrose asks. "That's on the other side of the kingdom. That's a long journey for an old man like me.""Not to mention that the place was broken by the Ghoul attack." Gregory sighs. "I can't raise Sophie in a refugee tent.""Sea air is disagreeable to me." Barney says."They're making excuses." The elf says."Shut up Widdy!"
>>23848079"I don't know about white tree, I've been there once and they weren't too friendly. Maybe stone hall? They need skilled businessmen like yourselves now more than ever, rebuilding after the ghoul attacks."OPERATION PUT EGGS IN ONE BASKET IS GO
>>23848160"What happen to Robin? Already took off I take it."The group shrugs."Saw him heading towards the stables." 'Widdy' says, still eating his apple."Damnit!" Tricia mutters. "Don't tell me...""You've got to admire his persistence." Mage says.
>>23848025DUDE! AMAZING! LOVE IT! HAVE A RE-ROLL!
>>23848206EchoGarrote, how powerful a degree of control does Citadel have over White Tree? Is it solidly under Citadel control?
>>23848226secondedOn an somewhat unrelated note how well is your setting set up op?
>>23848270it doesn't fit grammar-wise now. We'd have to tweak it.
>>23848263>EchoGarrote, how powerful a degree of control does Citadel have over White Tree? Is it solidly under Citadel control?Not overly powerful, whisper in the back of the head, and dreams, but no plays or people as far affected as your friends were. No town has too strong of a Citadel grip.
>>23848289Okay. I'll change it, next thread.
>>23848331Well, in that case I guess they would be safe (for the most part) in White Tree. I'm not sure whether it would be safe to tell people about what Citadel really is there though. I'm not sure quite how badly it would react to people knowing the truth.
Sophie would prefer Stone Hall. Its free of the thing that was making her act strange.
>>23848354Honestly I want them completely out of its influence.
>>23848243Awesome! I'll have to save it for a special potential-first-real-redemption-flinging-herself-out-a-window occasion
>>23848350You mean next post?Or am I already terminally confused
>>23848361We could mention the benefit of reconstruction for the inventor, what with all the dwarves about.We might be able to refer sophie to granny. She might know a thing or two.Plus I think if we offer ourselves as escort that might sweeten the deal.Say that as we rush off to get nightmare.
>>23848206"Okay, look, there's only so much that I can say here, but I would STRONGLY advise Stone Hall over anywhere else."
>>23848376As do I. Let's let it go for now. Their objections could just be Citadel's last attempts to keep them from escaping its grasp completely. We'll bring the topic back up on the road.
>>23848230Give a sigh. See if Lea or Tricia want to go and stop him /if/ he's going after that Nightmare again."White tree is ... nice, but has continuing issues with the fey court from the last I heard.>Not a lie!"I would strongly consider Stone Hall if I were you guys. After the ghoul attack they'll be looking for any help they can get."
>>23848206"We'll be heading to Stone Hall ourselves as soon as possible. So we could escort you there, it would probably be a damned sight safer, you did tell me before about your issues with bandits last time you tried to leave, after all."
>>23848230"Well, I should probably attend to that. I do suggest you re-think white tree, they weren't the nicest of people when I visited. You know my suggestion of stone hall, so I won't nag you with it. Now I'll be off to convince robin to stop stealing my horse in a town filled with guards."
>>23848398>>23848396"Okay, look, there's only so much that I can say here, but I would STRONGLY advise Stone Hall over anywhere else." You say."They can't afford it." The elf says."Ssen, that jack-off is stealing our horse! Come on!" Tricia pulls on your arm as the others take off towards the stables.
>>23848450"Don't go anywhere before I get back."Then go after Robin before he can swipe our horse.
>>23848450Offer to pay for their trip, we should have the funds I believe.Then go deal with the horse
>>23848472"Don't go anywhere before I get back." You say. "We'll talk about finances...I'm coming!"Roll 1d20
Rolled 17>>23848504Oh boy
Rolled 4>>23848504Get back here you lousy horsenapper!
>>23848510...damn it all.
Rolled 19>>23848510Using Hanako.
>>23848510-1 horse points
>>23848510>>23848515It's jinxed. This will always happen.
>>23848524What why the hell would you ever do that it's just our horseWORST CASE SCENARIO we tell the guards we gave him the horse so h
>>23848529Why not, we still have the reroll from the Voice of JUSTICE copypasta and the one from the picture.
>>23848504>>23848510whelp, they either take off without us, or the elf got the Nightmare>>23848524dont waste it.
>>23848545so he doesn't get executed. I got cut off?
>>23848529absolutely not, don't waste this rerollthat's just one guy wanting to reroll
Rolled 19>>23848529I've been sick, I've missed half this, and I can always provide more critique later. And for fucks sake its MY reroll.
>>23848575>>23848549>>23848545Okay, you don't use the re-roll.When you get there, you find Robin leaning against the stable gate, peeling an orange with a knife. The Nightmare is nowhere to be seen."Hey." He says. "Nice work with those 'miracles' by the by. The melting amulet was an impressive touch." He pops an orange slice into his mouth."So, I guess I owe you guys a solid." He says.
>>23848640"I'd like to collect that favor, and ask you to return my horse."
>>23848640If we just lost this horse, I hate you all.
>>23848651"I'd like to collect that favor, and ask you to return my horse." You say."Well, that I can't do." Robin says. "I told you, I took a job to steal the horse from you, and deliver it to the Fey Court." He smirks. "However, if you hired me to steal a Nightmare from the Fey Court and deliver it to you...I might be willing to give you guys a bargain." He grins. "Call it...five gold?"
>>23848662I would have been okay with using the reroll if it meant preventing the horse from falling out a window and dying.But a horsenapping?
>>23848640"If your tongue doesn't find a point in the next 15 seconds, your chest just might."
>>23848710FUCK WHY AM I ALWAYS SO SLOW WITH THE QUIPS
>>23848694"You drive a hard bargain."Then I guess hand him five gold, since we probably have that about our person now.
>>23848714"Deal." You say as you hand him the gold."You really take your work seriously." Peri says.Robin shrugs. "The Goodfellow name is synonymous with professionalism, and we NEVER back out on a job. Unless someone else does it for us." He tosses you a coin pouch. "That's Greg's down payment. Make sure it gets back to him." He says. "You going to be here in a week or somewhere else? I want to know where delivery is."
>>23848694"You know, if you weren't such a shameless thief, I could almost like you."
>>23848694"You know, there are easier ways to ask for some change." Are we okay with burning potentialfavor for surehorse?
>>23848776It's a really cool horse. >>23848771"You can leave it with the Lizardmen or Paladin Avery at Stone Hall. They can be trusted to hold on to it."
>>23848771"Hopefully I'll be in Stonehall. If I'm not there, leave it with the Lizardmen and mention my name, they'll look after it for me."
>>23848806"You can leave it with the Lizardmen or Paladin Avery at Stone Hall. They can be trusted to hold on to it."He nods. "Always wanted to see the coast. See you round, Paladin Serpent." He walks off."He's so classy." Mari says."NO." Peri snaps.
>>23848771"Barring any emergencies, disasters, invading armies, or sudden executions?We're probably going to head off, yeah. To (Are we going to bronze peaks or stone hall? Is one on the way to the other? Please someone finish off this line, because I don't know)"
>>23848832Stone hall first I think, it's free of Citadel, which makes it the perfect place to tell our allies everything as we promised them we would.
>>23848831"He sort of is, in that career criminal way..."
>>23848831"Well then Mari, you can pay the gold next time he steals our horse."
>>23848852"He sort of is, in that career criminal way..." You say."Don't. Encourage. Her." Peri snaps."Robin doesn't come cheap." Mage says as he counts Gregory's gold. "Think we should use this to buy those guys another wagon...and a horse?"
>>23848880"It would probably be a good idea, let's take it back to them and let them know."
>>23848880"Well, it's their money, but we can strongly suggest they purchase those things, yes!"
>>23848831We promised to come right back to the other three. Go back, give them the money Robin just gave us, and since they already know a fair bit about Citadel, tell them that Stone Hall is free of the influences that attacked Sophie's mind, and that it's one of the only places in the world that is.
>>23848952I suppose we could tell them that, as long as we don't actively tell them it's Citadel doing it, letting that much slip should be safe.
If we convince the three to go to Stone Hall, then we should offer them an escort.
>>23848930"It would probably be a good idea, let's take it back to them and let them know." You say.The men are very happy to see an extra wagon, Barney especially. Gregory's a little miffed that you spent his money, but he admits that he'd probably use it on exactly this."Also, give Robin my thanks." He says. "He's a real solid guy, for being a Fey Court elf.""Something wrong with being an elf?" The new elf says."Nothing, Widdy." Gregory sighs. "That's why I said 'Fey Court' elf, there's a difference between those guys and you.""Mmh." Widdy says."So, you were making a case for Stone Hall?" Ambrose said. "That's a long journey for people like us, ladies. It's one thing to travel with what's on your back, but we're going to have to take our whole lives across the country."
>>23848973They already know that there's something very wrong with Citadel:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23830319/#p23831878> "Anyway, I asked him and he laughed and said he prefered a place that smelled as bad as he thought Citadel was. We became friends."We shouldn't go into detail, but they know more than most.
>>23849016"If you're willing to wait until after my paladin confirmation, me and my friends will be willing to escort you there. We have business to take care of at Stone Hall anyways."
>>23849016"I can't tell you all the details here, it wouldn't be safe, but what I can say is that Stone Hall is one of the few places out there you'll be free from the cause of your bad luck and Sophie's fears."
>>23849016"Stone Hall is one of the few places in the world completely free from...unwelcome influences in your mind and in your life. The same influences that nearly drove Sophie mad, and got you executed.Plus, we'd be happy to offer you an escort there. And there are a lot of opportunities in a rebuilding city."
>>23849046>We have business to take care of at Stone Hall anyways.What business? We planned to go to Bronze Peak next, after we *possibly* stuck around this vile place long enough to get our Paladin on, and figured out how to help Isen.)
>>23849016"Stone hall is free of what's been bothering sophie and to a lesser extent, the rest of you."
>>23849132That's where Robin is going to drop off the Nightmare.Plus, I think it would be a good idea to talk with Granny again, especially now that we've made contact with the possible Fifth Humor.
>>23849132I've been asking where stone hall is in relation to bronze peaks for a while now.
>>23849132For one thing, it's a safe place to tell our friends what's really going on without Citadel reacting.Secondly, we need to find out what happened in the big gap in the history books between the Caligo Clarus overthrowing the Dragon Who Dwells In Darkness to Citadel's golden age. I figured since Granny has been around for literally centuries, she might know more.
Could we get a rough description of the map as we know it? What relative directions are Stone Hall, Bronze Peak, White Tree, and Citadel from each other, and how far apart in days of travel?
>>23849046"If you're willing to wait until after my paladin confirmation, me and my friends will be willing to escort you there. We have business to take care of at Stone Hall anyways."The four all stare at you."You're becoming a Paladin?" Barney stares. "Well done! Well done!" Ambrose says as he come up to shake your hand. "The Caligo Clarus rises up once more! Oh, you MUST let me be your lore master...you'll need a court, and...and...oh I have all the materials you'll need." He laughs and he looks thirty years younger. "Do you have a tower? You simply MUST buy a tower! The Stone Hall lighthouse! Oh, there's so much to DO! Come on boys, I know exactly what books I need to bring!" He starts to walk towards his home."Light above," Gregory says. "Never saw ol'Trapper like that." He smiles and then sighs. "But the long journey, Sophie's still reeling, and I have to turn her over to the Mage's soon.""Stone Hall is one of the few places in the world completely free from...unwelcome influences in your mind and in your life. The same influences that nearly drove Sophie mad, and got you executed.""Really?" Gregory says. "Look, I can't...I don't think I can pay the traditional tithe to you for the escort."Widdy leans over and whispers. "Don't offer it for free. Greg hates charity."
>>23849167The concern was never "telling our friends without Citadel reacting"; Citadel would react to their knowing, not just to their being told.
>>23849197"Then you'll just have to owe us one of your fantastic machines, now won't you?"
>>23849197>"Really?" Gregory says. "Look, I can't...I don't think I can pay the traditional tithe to you for the escort.">Widdy leans over and whispers. "Don't offer it for free. Greg hates charity.""We're working to help rebuild Stone Hall. If you'd like, you could offer your help to the lizardfolk there; I'd consider that more than payment enough for an escort, and it would also help you get started building a life there."
>>23849197I have no idea what a cheap (but not insultingly so) tithe for escort would be, not knowing how the economy of this setting works.Whatever it is, suggest that.
>>23849178Citadel and Stone Hall are on opposite shore. White Tree is half the distance but more in a south direction. Bronze Peak is closer to Stone Hall than Citadel, and Northern, but you'd get to Bronze Peak before you'd get to Stone Hall if you went there from Citadel.
"You could always make me that armor."
>>23849226"We're working to help rebuild Stone Hall. If you'd like, you could offer your help to the lizardfolk there; I'd consider that more than payment enough for an escort, and it would also help you get started building a life there.""So, I'd be signing up for indentured servitude?" Gregory says."Sound pretty good to me." Barney says.Gregory still looks reluctant. Now you understand why he's been able to resist Citadel, Ambrose has his knowledge and Barney has endless curiosity...Gregory's more stubborn than rocks.
>>23849230Thanks!>>23849197"Gregory, you offered to make us some armor of the same style as the finery from the ball. Perhaps you could offer us a discount on that as payment for the escort?"
>>23849230About how big is the continent?Does it adjoin any neighboring continents?Is citadel a point on the map, or a region?
>>23849277this works very well as a reply>>23849279
>>23849277"I see it as less indentured servitude and more of an exchange of favors."
>>23849356And to add to that:"And I suspect that once the people of Stone Hall see your work, you'll have more business than you know what to do with. Not just any tailor could make a dress that fits a tail, after all."
>>23849277To segue from the "indentured servitude" thing before replying with something else, "I only mentioned it because I thought it might help you start drumming up business; I would never suggest you offer any more of your services for free than you considered equal to the tithe you would choose to offer. But in lieu of that..." (the armor suggestion)
>>23849470this works well and I support it.
>>23849279"Gregory, you offered to make us some armor of the same style as the finery from the ball. Perhaps you could offer us a discount on that as payment for the escort?"He tilts his head back and forth. "It depends on the materials, and if you want to do it in a traditional Paladin style, or whatever Old Trapper finds. Not to mention I'm going to have to take all new measurements. You'll be owning ME after this trip...okay." He nods. "Fine, that'll work.""Blessed be the Light." Barney mutters.>>23849333Citadel Kingdom is about as big as North America, give or take. North is uncharted tundra which gives to Arctic, south is predominantly desert and savannah, Purple Sands is the southern most town. River's Crossing is closer to White Tree but is closer to Stone Hall than Citadel.Citadel is a region. It's massive. Two tokyos can fit inside it, and it actually spills into the ocean as well, there's a whole swath of the city that's technically in open water...but you'd never tell because it's all Citadel. The city is EATING the continent.The only other known Continent is across the ocean from Citadel. The Phoenix Empire. The only thing you know about it is that it's there, and Isen has to marry a princess from it.
>>23849543>Purple Sands is the southern most town.I should say City. There's plenty of small towns and villages at river fords, and forests, and crossroads of the King's Road.First Wood is between Purple Sands and Citadel, there's mountains between the two smaller cities, and a big lake and a bigger forest at First Wood's area.
>>23849543>He tilts his head back and forth. "It depends on the materials, and if you want to do it in a traditional Paladin style, or whatever Old Trapper finds. Not to mention I'm going to have to take all new measurements. You'll be owning ME after this trip...okay." He nods. "Fine, that'll work.""owing", I assume? Because after the indentured servitude comment..."I suggested a discount, not a gift; if the armor is anywhere near as impressive as the finery, it'd be indentured servitude indeed to ask for it for free. Take what you'd offer for the tithe, cut it off the price, and we'll happily pay the rest.As for the style, we all greatly liked the symbolism you drew from my medallion, and I'd love to see some armor with that motif. I don't have any particular attachment to the traditional garb of Paladins in general, but I'd certainly like to see what Ambrose finds about the Caligo Clarus, which would hopefully fit with that same motif."
>>23849585We need a cartographer now.
Now that thats cleared up we should ask about people who similiarily don't seem to fit in and wouldn't be oposed to joining this little caravan.
We should visit [s]Asia[/s] The Phoenix Empire some time.
>>23849631Sounds like a plan. After we get the details of the armor and the trip settled, "Do you know anyone else who feels the same way about Citadel that you four do, and who tends to have a lot of little things go wrong in their life when they do anything that doesn't fit in?"
>>23849625I asked in case I want to give it a whack. but I am terrible at it and it will come out like a child's drawing, made in MSpaint, if I even do it.So, you know, feel free to take the reigns.
>>23849631it should be a "stone hall relief" caravan. For people who want to help stone hall more than they want to stay in citadel.
>>23849605"I suggested a discount, not a gift; if the armor is anywhere near as impressive as the finery, it'd be indentured servitude indeed to ask for it for free. Take what you'd offer for the tithe, cut it off the price, and we'll happily pay the rest." You say. "As for the style, we all greatly liked the symbolism you drew from my medallion, and I'd love to see some armor with that motif. I don't have any particular attachment to the traditional garb of Paladins in general, but I'd certainly like to see what Ambrose finds about the Caligo Clarus, which would hopefully fit with that same motif.""Fine, fine. I get it. Citadel bad, Stone Hall good. I'm in I'm in, just...stop with the speeches." Gregory grumbles. "I'll go get Sophie's stuff.""He's like that." Widdy says. " He chews his apple and thinks. "Hey, this a whole caravan now?"
>>23849712It is looking like it.
>>23849678Do it. You probably will do a better job than me, and all we need is a rough picture to help us in future planning.
>>23849712"Why, you want to come too?"I seem to recall that Widdy was the fruit seller who's shop stunk for some unknown reason, so he's probably suffering from Citadel related dickery as well.
>>23849712It's certainly starting to look like it.
>>23849712"I am genuinely thinking about making it that way."
>>23849712>"He's like that." Widdy says. " He chews his apple and thinks. "Hey, this a whole caravan now?">>23849743This.Also, this seems like a good cue for:>>23849631And,>>23849696That should be the stated motivation, yeah. Citadel might retaliate against people who just want to leave, while helping Stone Hall provides a good excuse that can just happen to be true.
>>23849739I'm going to make a simplistic black and white affair that we can easily update, then.
>>23849743>>23849753"It's certainly starting to look like it." You sigh. "Why, you want to come too?"He nods. "Had enough, store stinks from storm drain linked to sewer. Keep saying they'll fix it, never will. I'll go, bring food too for fee. Need a wagon." He says.
>>23849803"I'm sure we can figure something out. I'm confident there are many like-minded people who would love to help rebuild Stone Hall."
What's the closest city to Citadel in the same direction as Stone Hall and Bronze Peak, but far enough away that Citadel can't actively shape the world in its image other than by whispering in people's minds?It'd be good to know the best staging area outside of Citadel, plus unless this group wants to hang around for our Paladin ceremony, we might want to escort them there and come back, just to get them out of here as soon as possible.
>>23849803"By His light. That's the most I've ever seen Widdy speak." Barney says as he keeps loading up his now-personal wagon with his blueprints and inventions. "He must be ecstatic.""Okay, I have to ask." Mage says. "Is Widdy your ACTUAL name?"Widdy shakes his head. "Illya Widdershins."
>>23849846I imagine our trip out of citadel will be a big flight scene, though, and I doubt we will be able to come back after that.
>>23849846First Wood, if you don't mind the cross circuts from the Fey Court.Other than that, just small towns like River's Crossing, or little blips on the map like Jubilee.
So, they already had one wagon, and we bought them a second one with their own money; is that not enough to hold five people (Gregory, Ambrose, Barney, Sohpie, and Widdy) and their stuff? Because in theory *one* wagon held our entire party, albeit with far less stuff.
>>23849803I'll get things started, see about hiring or buying some more wagons and horses to move them. If any of you can think of anyone else to join this send them my way will you?
Okay, you guys make smart decisions, I'm working on a terrible, terrible map.Oh god it is hard to draw, doubly so with a mouse.
question? How much money do we have? Last thing I knew we had around 200 gold left right?
>>23849873Oh, I'd expect trouble far sooner than that. Personally, I'm betting that right after we get our Paladin on, Citadel starts trying to influence Paladin minds to order us around.
We can blow it all here in Citadel. It is a big journey. We got new gears already, so we won't need money for that for a while. Any one we can save here will be helpful for the future war efforts.
>>23849903That was before becoming the Hero of Citadel, though.
>>23849924precisely why I am asking
>>23849882Your stuff is your weapons and supplies. Their supplies are their entire homes, and business supplies, and all the stuff they've acquired over their lives. They aren't traveling, they're moving.
Question for Gregory, since his resistance to charity would probably also extend to not giving us a low figure for the "tithe" for an escort: "How much would a typical 'tithe' be for an escort like this, anyway? Not like I've had much experience offering services as a Paladin; I kinda figured most services were done for the sake of doing good, really, so the idea of getting paid something other than a bounty or unexpected reward is kinda novel to me."
>>23849962That's what I figured, yeah. So, two wagons could carry Gregory, Sophie, Ambrose, and Barney, and a subset of their stuff (packing light and leaving some things), but not Widdy, and not any of us?
>>23850001I believe we actually have a wagon, but it might be a bit small since it only required Nightmare to move... though he is a magic horse.
>>23850017Our Nightmare needs a name. How about Agro?What could go wrong?
>>23849977"How much would a typical 'tithe' be for an escort like this, anyway? Not like I've had much experience offering services as a Paladin; I kinda figured most services were done for the sake of doing good, really, so the idea of getting paid something other than a bounty or unexpected reward is kinda novel to me.""Typical is 100 gold a head, but that's just to White Tree." Barney says, as Gregory has gone off. "You'd probably be able to charge 500 gold per person, and a lot extra if they have another wagon. Half of what they're paying for is the reputation and prestige of having a Paladin escort and arriving with a Paladin." He says as he starts to load up his clothes. "It's supposed to be a good Omen, how His Chosen are bringing your own Light with you as you travel. Also, no one's stupid enough to attack a Paladin."
Unless you are insane or bring an army.
>>23850001Okay, I'll make this simple. With the group you have, including Widdy, to move everything they want, you'll need three full wagons, your traveling wagon, and the horses/oxen to pull them. Even then, someone will always be walking. To get all of that will leave you with about 10 gold in each of your party's pockets. Of course, other people may come, and they will pay you whatever rates you choose to charge.
Is stone hall a coastal city?Am I right in assuming stone hall is on the opposite coast of citadel?
>>23850065and unfortunately the kind of people we are looking for aren't going to be exactly rich. Citadel doesn't like them so they don't get all that much business for one reason or another. It wouldn't be right to charge them more then a pittance.Time for a group conference. Pity we can't hit up Isen for cash or ask Tara about the winnings she made in the arena.
>>23850017A Nightmare is 50% stronger than a large horse, or twice as strong as a light horse, at least according to standard lore.>>23850065>three full wagons, your traveling wagonAll full to capacity, or does that leave room for one more passenger (since before Widdy it sounded like two wagons would suffice not counting us).
>>23850107Honestly, this won't be the last time we travel, and a small caravan seems preferable here. I'd suggest that other than taking Isen and Tara if they want to go, we ought to go with this.
>>23850065To any who come: "It is entirely up to them what they choose to pay us, if anything. From a smile to a fortune, it's all the same.
>>23850104Yes, Stone Hall is on the coast.It's called Stone Hall because of all the really big tunnels and arches carved into the cliffs. It's a tiered city.
>>23850110>All full to capacity, or does that leave room for one more passengerSophie, and two people who are tired of walking will be riding in the traveling wagon along with a few more stuff. Everyone else walks.
>>23850162>Everyone else walks.What about the snaketrain?
>>23850162sounds fine to me, wagons are not exactly fast to start with.>>23850180bad idea if something DOES ambush us(90% chance heh)
>>23850180Well, if Tricia wants a ride, sure. But we're not a taxi service, and more than one person would get tiring fast.
>>23850196Heh, okay Tricia only.:3
>>23850193Okay, so you buy another wagon for Widdy and help him, Ambrose, and Gregory get ready to move. Gregory sends a letter to the wizards at Stone Hall that he'll be letting Sophie study with them when she arrives. By this time, the word has gone out that there's a caravan of people who are leaving Citadel to go to Stone Hall to take advantage of the new opportunities there. Also, that it'll be escorted by the Hero of Citadel, the Paladin Serpent herself.Roll 1d8
>>23850300Oh, no good can come of this.
What was the name of our hometown, and where was it in relation to everything else?I have most of the things on the map now I think.
>>23850372River's Cross, at the delta of a river, downstream from the first town we visited, White-somthing i think.
>>23850372>>23850382Allright, and do we know where first wood is? I forgot to include that as well.
>>238503046 groups want to come with you as well.A butcher and his family. (Wife, two sons)A carpenter and her husband.Two bakers who live together. A bricklayer and his family (5 kids, and the wife is pregnant)A mortician.They have their own wagons and beasts of burden. How much are you going to charge them for the honor of being in...well...the Serpent's Trail?
>>23850400100 gold a head, no charge for kids, and no charge for extra wagons?
>>23850400Tell them to give something they can spare which they feel they would like us to have. They don't have to give us anything if they don't want to or if they can't afford it, but truly ANY gift, no matter how large or small, will be appreciated equally. It's the gesture that counts.
>>23850400How about a hundred per wagon? It's potentially less than the traditional hundred-plus per head, but still reasonable.
... it really depends on how well off they are financially. If its all they can do to afford to move then nothing. If they can afford it I say anywhere from 10-100 gold. If they exclaim at the price. say you don't feel right charging more for protecting innocents.
>>23850400Before we accept anyone, we should talk to them. We're looking for people who had trouble with Citadel in the past. We're not looking for people who *are* trouble from Citadel.
>>23850422Assuming we accept them (which has little to do with money), then this.
>>23850449Glad to see someone else remembered we're supposed to be a Paladin or, rather, simply a good person.
>>23850400I'd vote we don't accept *anyone* who we can't get one of the existing members of the caravan or someone else we know very well to vouch for personally.Exception: if we talk to them about things that Citadel would rather they don't talk about, and they show all the signs that Citadel hates them, consider them, *maybe*. But we can always make another trip in the future.
>>23850419>>23850423Everyone can afford 100 a wagon. But that price might make them uneasy at how cheap it is. Citadel can work on that fear. People might bail, because Citadel will make them think it's a trap.The bakers and the bricklayer can't afford 100 a head, even with the kids ride free. They do offer to make it up with indentured servitude to cover for it.
Okay, does this map look at all like what was described?I am not good at cartography.
>>23850440>>23850474For the interviews, roll 6d20 to do a check. And remember, just because you fail, doesn't mean they have a corrupted Citadel Soul.
>>23850492Move Stone Hall south, and you can never make Citadel too big. Also, connect all those places by the King's road.
>>23850535Don't connect River's Cross though
Rolled 4, 3, 10, 17, 12, 18 = 64>>23850513
>>23850535Is the king's road a all-roads-lead-to-rome kind of deal, or a split up and sprawling thing?
>>23850491Ok then, 100 a head for those that can afford it(children free), and 100 per cart for those that cant afford it. best of both worlds then?
Rolled 7, 18, 6, 16, 12, 11 = 70>>23850491Offer the families instead a portion of their profits when they reasstablish themselves in Stone Hall. That way they can pay it off long term. No more then 50 a head though. If the carpenter, bakers and mortician can afford it up it to 100 a head then.>>23850513
>>23850548All roads lead to Citadel, PS and FW connect, WT and PS connect, WT and SH connect, WT and BP connect, WT and FW connect, SH and BP connect, PS and SH connect.
>>23850491If we bring them, tell the bakers to bring extra food for the trip to make up the shortage, and make sure we don't take the last of their money. For the bricklayer, there's more than enough work for him in Stone Hall; tell him that he can offer whatever help he feels necessary to Stone Hall that he considers equivalent to the tithe, but no more. We don't accept servitude, but help is always appreciated.
>>23850513True, but we don't have to take everyone right away, either. I think we can afford paranoia here.Get them talking specifically about things that Citadel won't want them talking about; I don't just want to leave out people who are actively corrupted; I'd like to leave out anyone who isn't actively being harried by Citadel on an ongoing basis.
>>23850543The butcher's clean, you think.You think the Carpenter's cleanOne baker's maybe fine.Her partner's reeking of Shadows and Sparks.The bricklayer is fine, you're almost sure.The mortician is totally clean...if typically creepy.
>>23850598Which of them seem like Citadel actively gives them trouble, rather than just being "clean"?Does anyone in our party or the three travelers we know know any of these folks?
Plenty of room left for more artistic folks than me to draw in characters, if anyone feels so inclined.
>>23850611i would guess the bakers and bricklayer, as they are the only ones unable to afford the 100 gold a head
>>23850598Don't out the plant just yet. Ask the iffy baker, alone, how she thinks her partner likes living in citadel. Have her hold your medallion with you as she answers.
>>23850658Note; By the iffy baker, i mean the one we're not totally sure about.
>>23850677the one currently known. there may be others.
>>23850658This. Ask anyone we're not sure about, too.
>>23850577Is this more accurate?
>>23850611The mortician gets a lot of grief, but that might not be Citadel. People naturally act weird around the guy who takes care of the dead.The bricklayer always has enough money to feed his family and is happy, but wants to give his kids a chance to not have to follow in his job. He kinds dislikes always having to constantly endlessly build Citadel.The bakers are really happy with their lives, but want an adventure.Barney and Ambrose both vouch for the Carpenter's family. She's built things for them before. Nothing BAD has been happening to him, but nothing good really. Her marriage could be better though. She and her husband fight, a lot...and over small stuff that builds into personal attacks.Widdy and the butcher know each other, they live on the same street and suffer the same smell problem. Also, people make nasty jokes and tease the man because of the smelly meats . The down side is that Widdy knows him because the butcher hates him. He's a massive speciest. Not too fond of you either, but anything to get away from the smell.
>>23850687Ah fuck I forgot a few passes that are required for the plot to have happened in the way it did, they are included now.
>>23850716It's close, but I would suggest checking this one instead, it's got two plot-updated roads.>>23850730
>>23850704If we leave anyone it should probably be the butcher, taking a speciest to a city full of Lizard folk just screams Bad Idea to me.
>>23850704Yeah, it seems like everybody but the bakers are suffering from Citadel's pidgeonholing. Ask the bakers if they are REALLY sure they want to go "adventuring", People going on this caravan will probably not be coming back to Citadel for a while.
>>23850704Mortician is clean.Bricklayer is clean because he loathes Citadel's GROWTH.Bakers are out because HAPPY and JUST WANT ADVENTURE STORIES.Carpenter is clean because emotional turmoil and the strife of the real world has reached him, implicitly piercing the veil of Citadel's saccharine fantasy in so doing.Butcher is clean because he's a bitter fuck.
>>23850704Leave the butcher out; we don't need that kind of bigotry along for this trip.Leave the bakers home; Citadel seems to like them just fine and they're looking for an "adventure", which we're not out to offer.The Carpenter gets in because Barney and Ambrose know her. The bricklayer sounds reasonable as well, and Stone Hall could really use him.The mortician seems fine too.
>>23850704>>23850751 :extended...Leave the bakers behind, take everyone else. Even the butcher. His ignorance is pitiable; let's give him a chance to learn better.
>>23850751This, but Butcher still stays, clean or not. Citadel is not the source of all bad things in the world; sometimes people go bad all on their own.
>>23850752We shouldn't leave the butcher out just because he's a bit of an asshole. If we were willing to forgive Odette, then we have the tolerance to bring this guy along. Plus, he has a legitimate grievance against Citadel.Plus, there's nothing REQUIRING him to stay in Stone Hall. Once we drop him off he's free to take a carriage to any other city.
>>23850752Pretty much. Don't want an incident, even a minor one.Also, Echo, what were the two groups that we didn't roll to take with?
>>23850764Widdy and the butcher hate each other, he's a species-ist, and we're going to a city that the lizardfolk are going to be prominent in.>>23850772I don't know about other folks, but I was only willing to forgive Odette because Citadel ruined her and used her as its instrument, which makes it not *completely* her fault. She was still a terrible person, but forgivably so.The butcher has no particular excuse, it doesn't look like Citadel hates him, and we'll have enough trouble on this trip without him. He can find his own way to wherever he wants to go.
>>23850752Okay, so you want to keep the Carpenter and her husband, the mortician, and the bricklayer, his pregnant wife, and his four other kids. (8, 11, 11, and 15.)You'll charge 100 a head for the Carpenter and the Mortician, and you're putting a mild case of indenture servitude on the bricklayer with him giving you a share of his profits for a year, once he gets established at Stone Hall.
>>23850788(And I wouldn't have taken Odette on this trip, either, whether we forgave her or not.)
>>23850791No, don't make the bricklayer send *us* the profits. Let him pay whatever services he wishes to the rebuilding of Stone Hall. We don't need the money that badly.Otherwise that sounds good.
>>23850775>Also, Echo, what were the two groups that we didn't roll to take with?More citadel plants. Don't worry.
>>23850812So what ARE you charging the bricklayer then?
>>23850791Could we get some names for the Carpenter and husband, mortician, bricklayer and family?
>>23850752> Leave the bakers home; Citadel seems to like them just fine and they're looking for an "adventure", which we're not out to offer.Moving to the other side of a continent is an adventure for anyone who isn't, well, an adventurer.
>>23850812>>23850815>>23850821have him send us the money and we can donate it to the stone hall.We don't want to confuse things any more than they already are. The only reason we're charging in the first place is because people expect it.
>>23850831Can the Mortician be Brisket Sweats and the Carpenter be Buff Drinklots? Also let's name the bricklayer Thick McRunfast.
>>23850834It's an adventure for a while, then it gets back into tedium. Plus they're probably plants.
>>23850821Charge the bricklayer 100 gold each for him and his wife, just like the rest (with the kids free), and tell him that he can offer 200 gold worth of service to the rebuilding of Stone Hall in lieu of payment. (Assuming that works out to be a reasonable amount of work; how many days of work would that be?)
>>23850788>>23850797The butcher is suffering the exact same problems Widdy is. His store is in a terrible location and people constantly make fun of him for it.
>>23850852If it was just that he and Widdy didn't get along, I'd say fine, bring him; he's clean, and one set of personal problems would be OK. Bigotry is why he gets to stay home.
>>23850831>Could we get some names for the Carpenter and husband, mortician, bricklayer and family?Okay. In order: Harriet & Oliver Quail, Daniel Dunraven, Robert & Terri Rawe and QUIET ALL OF YOU!
>>23850866>rejecting helping a guy with a legitimate problem because there's one thing we don't like about himAnd you call HIM the bigot...
>>23850866hey, if he can get over the bigotry if he's getting something he wants, then it means he's not a mindless bigot. He'll lose the bigotry quick in lizard town.
>>23850866On the contrary, the bigotry is a good reason to bring him along.People can always change. No one is beyond redemption. No one.This will be an opportunity for him to learn.
Bring the bigot. If he's not a plant we have no reason not to offer him the trip.
From a previous thread:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23768347/#p23771373> An average farmer, selling an average crop would pull in 100 gp. Thanks to the Citadel Blessing, he never misses a month.So, given that, about how much is 200gp worth of work from the bricklayer in rebuilding Stone Hall? A fraction of a year's work, right?
>>23850887Make sure the butcher knows that there are lizardpeople there, and give him a stern warning to be nice to them.
>>23850873I like my names better.Lunge Deepthrust, Mortician extraordinaire
>>23850887Remember, it's not just him, you get the wife and the two sons. The kids are okay, they haven't been QUITE marinated in the juices of hate yet, but the wife is a Grade A, PTA Queen, Sister-Better-Than-You, Alpha bitch. She's the one pushing for the butcher to go, while at the same time demanding that he 'do something' about Widdy. Though she's super sweet to your face.
>>23850927The bricklayers' wife is too busy taking care of her brood and being pregnant, (Don't worry, she's months away. You'll make it with time to spare. Presumably.) and the kids are standard eternal-sugar-rush kids. They run around, touch things they shouldn't, and fight with each other.
>>23850927If they accept going to a city populated by lizardmen...I think we should bring 'em.
>>23850905http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23768347/#p237714131200 a year, so 2 months for a farmer, and I would bet a bricklayer gets paid far better, as buildings are expensive.
>>23850927>>23850943All of this is acceptable. Also, we should be giving the the pistol to Mari.Seriously.Really, why does she not have it on her already?
>>23850971Probably because no ammo exists for it.Yet.
>>23850927Yeah, between him and his wife, this seems like a Bad Idea. What good comes of taking him, other than a bit of gold we don't really need? There's a whole city worth of people here that need saving; we don't have to evacuate everyone bothered by Citadel *today*.>>23850943Sanity check on time, here:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23768347/#p23777098> It's a week's worth of travel from Stone Hall to Gand CitadelThat was with us in a cart, rather than walking, but still, that gives a pretty good idea of distance.
>>23850957He does, but his family is big and expensive. His counter offer is that he pays you 100 for him and his wife, and he'll work at Stone Hall, and send you the remaining 100 when he's got it.He's like Gregory. Proud as hell, and doesn't want to bow his head to anyone. He's not too ashamed about being in debt, anyway, being in debt to a Paladin doesn't just mean you owe them money, you also are leveraging your soul, really.
>>23850971because its not ours? also, I highly doubt we have easy access to black powder.
>>23850985It was loaded and dangerous when Sophie had it, no?
>>23850927Fuck no. We've dealt with Odette. I don't want to deal with another for the time being.
>>23850998"That is perfectly acceptable."
>>23850989Yeah, with the current caravan of you, the Garishes, Barney, Ambrose, Widdy, the Quails, the Rawes, and Mr. Dunraven. It's going to take you about two weeks at least. Unless you want to try and take a shortcut off of the King's Road.
>>23850943Make it clear to them that while we'll make sure everyone stays safe, this is not a danger-free trip, and we don't need kids wandering off and needing saving. We really don't want to regret saying that kids ride for free.
>>23851005Can we confront the wife, and give her a talking-to? If we can't with any reasonable amount of success, don't take them. Otherwise, do.
>>23851005Then you REALLY don't want another racist cunt with a grudge against the filthy snake-beast who refused to take her to Stone Hall.
>>23851000We actually never checked.
>>23851021Two weeks is just fine; no shortcuts, please, and no need for a grueling pace. And no fording rivers, either.>>23851024Not a chance; one conversation won't solve any problems, and she can probably fake sweetness for as long as she needs to.
>>23851042oh. well then forget that idea.
>>23850998That's acceptable, though if paying 100 gold now would leave him with very little to set up with, tell him that the full 200 can wait until he has it.
>>23851052>And no fording rivers, either.Everyone drowns in dysentery.
>>23851023Oh, she's aware. She's kept these brats in line for a while. You think she's a hair too strict with them sometimes, but then again she IS pregnant.So, everyone's still up in the air about the butcher.>>23851042It wasn't, but it was still a gun in the hands of a mage who can't control her powers. Not a good thing.Barney claims that he destroyed the blueprints for the thing, because it scared him, but you have doubts. The man keeps plans for a hat and belt that stick to the wall that let you sleep upright.He did take the gun back, he says there's no shot, powder, or wadding for it anyway. Again, you have doubts, but Barney's treating the thing like it could explode, so maybe it's best in his hands.
>>23851078About the butcher: What is our, as Ssen, 's best guess as to what will happen if we drop the butcher's family off in Stone Hall? Will they hurt anyone? Will they eventually get less bigoted?
>>23851021So, we have the five/six of us (Ssen, Tricia, Mage, Lea, and Mari/Peri), Gregory and Sophie Garish, Ambrose, Widdy, Harriet and Oliver Quail, Robert and Terri Rawe and four kids, and Dunraven.>>23851078> He did take the gun back, he says there's no shot, powder, or wadding for it anyway. Again, you have doubts, but Barney's treating the thing like it could explode, so maybe it's best in his hands.Ask him if he could please partially disassemble it, and keep the pieces separately, for the duration of the trip.>>23851078If we *don't* take the butcher today, what are his (or rather, his wife's) immediate plans?
Rolled 12>>23851133NAIVE PALADIN DIE GO
I personally think taking the butcher and the wife is a good idea. Precisely because they ARE racist assholes. They won't change. I know that type. However it will prove a counterpoint to the genuinely nice people that Citadel also persecutes. Once the Citadel dies it will be people like him populating it alongside the people who ARE genuinely nice and wish for a better future. We have to take the good and the bad together otherwise we are no better then Citadel looking to build a perfect society and rejecting the unwanted.
>>23851142It's way too late for those two, they'll be the same assholes there as they are here. They may cause some trouble too. But getting to Stone Hall might cause their kids to escape the hate cycle. Might.
>>23851157Was beginning to wonder why you hadn't posted in an hour. Now I see. A very good point, btw.>>23851165Worth it.
>>23851165When you get there, talk to their kids. Help set them on the right path. Also, warn Grams about the butcher's wife. That should cover it, and let them come.
What we can do however is punish racism. Hate crimes and such should be treated just as severely as the serious crime it is. Furthermore we can teach their children that their parents are outright WRONG for holding those views. Show them that Lamia and Lizard folk and Elves are neat because they are different then them rather then disgusting and other and that will become acceptance.
>>2385115710/10 radaeth good point.
>>23851157I think you're mixing long-term and short-term plans. Citadel and Stone Hall are huge cities; we're not staging a mass exodus today, we're just helping our friends get there, and some other folks who wanted along for the ride. We're not setting Stone Hall's immigration policy, here.>>23851165They'll be around when we're back in Citadel, too. And the wife's comment about wanting her husband to "'do something' about Widdy" goes beyond basic bigotry into actively doing hateful things. Leave them.
>>23851165Seems we've come to a general consensus. Take them with for the sake of the kids, and just tolerate the parents. (Also keep an eye on the bitch.)
Is it too much to ask to not invite trouble along for the ride, here? A larger caravan is more trouble to keep safe, and we're already talking about (counting) seven wagons. That's already more wagons than we have members of our party.
Proposal: talk to Widdy and the three original travelers, here. Tell them the situation, and *ask* them if they want the butcher and his family along. They're the original customers, here.
>>23851243I have to do this, because it's just too too perfect."It's too dangerous now to risk things, we should wait until after the war with Citadel to change things. Now's not the time to risk."Who does that sound like?
We've spent hours now debating this. Echo please make a call as to what the majority attitude seems to be and roll with that please.
>>23851255YOu know what? That's a much better idea.>>23851261Eh. Save that for the "No" speech. Ask widdy, he should get a say.
>>23851261Ah, good, so if we leave them behind then Citadel might give us less trouble when leaving. Sounds like a plan.We don't have to thwart Citadel at every turn, here. We accepted the painting, back in the day.
>>23851261wait what? why are we telling ANYONE there is a war with citadel?
>>23851261hell that sounds like what I said with the painting.
>>23851281I don't think anyone said that; Echo was just taunting us by saying we sound like Citadel in not wanting to rock the boat by taking the butcher along. Because taunting from the GM is a *great* reason to make a questionable decision and invite trouble. :)
>>23851261hah! (in case you missed it that was Odette's words when we were battling the Ghouls at Stone Hal, paraphrased of coursel)>>23851212We can't be everywhere, and if citadel does die we most likely will be far to busy to do anything about hatred on an individual scale. What we can do is however is lead by example and the tale on how the Serpent Paladin showed a family acceptance and taught their kids the right way of doing things is an excellent thing.
>>23851261Except in order to fight Citadel, we need allies. We'll never get anywhere if we don't take the opportunity to gain any.
>>23851261"No, Ssen, you are the Odette." And then Ssen had legs.
>>23851255Widdy shrugs. "Lots of nasty talk, kids knocked over cart once. Rather not see 'em again." He sighs. "But your go, if you can keep 'em in line.">>23851280>>23851281I'm sorry that was a parable. I'm saying that when you say 'it's too risky to chance policy change right now, wait until later' you're using the same argument Odette made.
>>23851303As one of the ones arguing for not taking them, I'd settle for the proposal of asking Widdy, Gregory, Ambrose, and Barney, and going with what they decide.
>>23851327>I'm sorry that was a parable. I'm saying that when you say 'it's too risky to chance policy change right now, wait until later' you're using the same argument Odette made.http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlerAteSugar
>>23851327So we make it clear to everyone that anyone who causes trouble for any other member of the caravan gets left behind, stranded.Done. We bring them all and everyone behaves.
>>23851361And give them a story to rile up Citadel with, about the Paladin who promised an escort and then abandoned them?
>>23851327>Widdy shrugs. "Lots of nasty talk, kids knocked over cart once. Rather not see 'em again." He sighs. "But your go, if you can keep 'em in line."Could we hear from the other three too, please?
>>23851342Widdy says he doesn't want them. Gregory doesn't want those two boys near Sophie. They've just hit puberty, and well...he's doing the big brother thing.Barney says that he's had the kids over for a tour of his museum once, and that they're good at heart.Ambrose says that the Caligo Clarus should offer help to those who ask for it, regardless of what kind of person they are.
>>23851261Good point, Echo. Although you brought this upon yourself by doing something so complex.Bakers are clearly bad news, I'm feeling like no towards the Butcher...although we can risk it. I think risk is our natural state. Bricklayers could use a blessing, maybe that would help the wife (we should bless them all before the trip).
Just bring the butcher, and make it clear we won't stand for any of his bullshit during the trip.
>>23851386Good call; we're offering a Paladin escort, so a group blessing before the trip seems like a great idea.
>>23851386>Good point, Echo. Although you brought this upon yourself by doing something so complex.Yeah, this kind of spiraled out of control. Thankfully, once you hit the road, I'll streamline it...a lot.
>>23851375Our word against theirs, it'd go poorly for them.>>23851384Every member of the Buther's family has 1/4 the whole vote against them. They come with.
>>23851384I agree with Ambrose obviously hahSo its baiscally mirrors whats going on in thread. One against, One fairly neutral (Just big brother instincts) One for the kids and one for everyone .
>>23851386Speaking of bless, every night, by yourself, pray for the safety of all the people, and for the butcher's family especially.
>>23851407bring them, this has taken far too long
>>23851408>Our word against theirs, it'd go poorly for them.We wouldn't be around to make any counterargument.>>23851410Heh, nice.>>23851407One item for the trip: at least one of Ssen, Tricia, Mage, Lea, and Mari/Peri should be awake at all times, on watch. Let's learn from our ambush by Robin, and our comments about sleeping the morning we woke up to a lynching.
>>23851428Right! Okay! They're coming.Trevor and Mary Swing with Trevor Jr and Dorian.
>>23851384>>23851386>>23851410As long as the butcher and wife are prudent enough to not let their hatred turn into major action en route to Stonehall, they shouldn't be a huge problem. We know they're racist bigots, they know they're racist bigots, and everyone on the caravan may already know that they're racist bigots. Their desire for a safe journey and a non-shitty life may be a strong motivator to not act out during the caravan ride.
>>23851455OKAY! ENOUGH WITH THE CARAVAN! It's all settled, and Ambrose, Barney, and Gregory will be managing their end of things, putting it together and getting things ready for when you leave.Can we PLEASE move ON to Ssen's confirmation?!
>>23851455Last question about them before we leave, then: we vetted the butcher for Citadel's influence, but we never actually checked his wife. Is she potentially influenced by Citadel at all, or just a natural bigot and nothing more?
>>23851475I think we'd like to invite Ambrose, Barney, Gregory, and Sophie to the confirmation, if possible.
>>23851475YES! That's what we wanted this whole time!
What are we doing about Isen and Tara? Are we leaving them in Citadel?
>>23851475Yes, about time.
>>23851500oh well, no idea, she's just a cunt.NEXT SLIDE
>>23851497Presumably we are taking them with us. If we leave Isen here, he'll just be used as a hostage against us by Citadel.
we either see nothing or are convinced she is a saint under that hate
>>23851489>I think we'd like to invite Ambrose, Barney, Gregory, and Sophie to the confirmation, if possible.That's not a problem. There's a little difference between normal Paladin confirmation, and the confirmation of a Caligo Clarus.Most Paladins do their ceremony at dawn or noon, or anytime that the sun is up. Your ceremony starts at dusk.So lets assume that everything's set up for tomorrow, and the other families are making their final preparations, and the ones you want to come are coming.
>>23851500Hell if you know if it's Citadel, but the woman is a middle-age'd version of Odette, only minus the sword, clout, and any ability to say no to you because you're a Paladin and trump her in everything.
right, time for the confirmation. I kinda would have wanted to talk to Isen for the basics of a plan but this has dragged on way to long. I just want out of this city
Rolled 9>>23851525>Your ceremony starts at dusk.Nice.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23768347/#p23779844"For In The Darkness Is Where His Light Is Needed Most, Thus There In The Darkness I Must Stay."
>>23851569Blargh, forgot to give my post a dice-ectomy.
>>23851479She seems like a snake, probably is influenced.As for blessing the group, something about new beginnings, leaving the past behind would work.But yeah now time to avoid the confirmation traps sure to come.
>>23851564I don't really think Isen needs an excuse to leave Citadel. He's done it numerous times already.
>>23851578You don't need to be influenced by Citadel to be a bitch. White Tree is testament to that.In all honesty, Citadel just enhances what's already there.
>>23851579Yeah, but right now he's still under "guard" because of the assassination attempt.
>>23851564I'd like to think that, since we are all the many branches of thought percolating in Ssen's mind that, in the time it took us to come to consensus, Ssen stared intensely, unblinkingly at the butcher and his wife for a solid 5 minutes without a word, then, "...you pass."
>>23851564The confirmation doesn't take place inside the Cathedral, which you really are happy with, but at one of Citadel's many parks. Her Illuminated Self is standing there with a small lantern by the treeline, it's another replica of the First Lantern.Julian is standing next to her in his full armor. He gleams.The others are standing to the side, watching you and smiling. Pulling their clothes tight to avoid any chill. Tara's with them, giving you a big thumbs up.Isen walks up next to you. "I got two bits of great news." He whispers. "First, is that I finally can get out of here and back out there. Talked my Father into it."
>>23851602... shes a lamia. They must think shes planning on eating them now.
>>23851599He's a resourceful guy, I'm sure he can figure something out.Plus, he's got the King's ear, and the King is always hungry for more adventuring stories. And I'm sure his hunt for the assassins has soured after that whole "day that never existed" fiasco.
>>23851614>>23851616Hah, I called it!
>>23851614>Isen walks up next to you. "I got two bits of great news." He whispers. "First, is that I finally can get out of here and back out there. Talked my Father into it.""Ah, excellent. We're heading to Stone Hall and on to Bronze Peak tomorrow at first light; interested in joining us?"
>>23851614"And the second bit of great news?"followed by >>23851631 if appropriate
>>23851638inb4 the second good news is, "Barnaby's 'special' pump worked! *wink*"
>>23851651Dear lord if that's true my sides will never recover.
>>23851631>>23851638"And the second bit of great news?"He chuckles. "It's a surprise!""Well...we're heading to Stone Hall and on to Bronze Peak tomorrow at first light; interested in joining us?" You ask.He winks. "Maybe. You'll see. Now, look pious, stalwart, and as sexy as usual."
Make your best Paladin face!
>>23851662Heh. Sounds like his news might have been that he planned on traveling with Gregory, Ambrose, and Barney already.
>>23851660>Pivotal moment of the ceremony.>The prince stands at the side of her Illumunated self.>He's holding his hands up, spread a ways apart.>Silently mouthing the words, "This big."
>>23851614Stupid question: what did we wear to this ceremony? Our traveling clothes, or the finery from the ball?
remember all that you will save. remember all those you have saved. remember the good you plan to do. remember the consequences of it. This evening it will be confirmed. Great things await. Terrible things await. The hard part is yet to come.
>>23851662>He chuckles. "It's a surprise!"Oh god. Be afraid. Very afraid."Why do I have I bad feeling about this...?"
>>23851685It seems like our armor would be a better choice.
>>23851709Sorry, that's what I meant by "traveling clothes".
>>23851615>>23851602I am now acknowledging that as what probably happened in my mind.
>>23851687This. And remember your father and all he taught you; you wouldn't be here today without him.
>>23851701"Why do I have I bad feeling about this...?""Because you know what kind of life we lead." Tricia sighs."Tonight, we gather here, among the cold, and among the woods." HIS begins. "We see the end of the Light for today...but we do not fear the night. Not this night, for in this time, we may have found among our number one who is willing to take up the lantern, to hold steady the Light, and ensure us all, that there is someone there among the Darkness."Who here will speak this one's name? Who here claims to know who this person is?""I will." Isen says. "I know her well, she is Ssen Patrick of River's Crossing. Daughter of Liam Patrick. I call her Paladin.""And who are you, to make this claim?""I am Prince Itzak Solomon Elegante Newgate of Citadel." He pauses. "Also I speak for Isen the Audacious, Knight Errant of the Road." He grins.HIS doesn't look amused."What deeds has Ssen Patrick done that convinces you so?""She is the Savior of Purple Sands, the Champion of First Wood, a Liberator of Stone Hall, and a Hero of Citadel. Where others flee, she charges, when others curse, she forgives, to the weak, she gives strength, and to the lost, she gives guidance, and forgiveness.""Paladin Julian Graves." HIS says. "Do you see this person known as Ssen Patrick?""I do, your grace.""What do you see before you, Paladin?""One of my own.""Then come forward Ssen Patrick, and take up your duty." HIS holds out the lantern.
>>23851803Presumably we talked about the ceremony in advance. Is there an expected response?In any case, take the lantern.
>>23851803YesssssssssTry not to smile too wide. It's unsettling.
>>23851803Inwardly, we now realize that this lantern felt exactly the same in Father's hand when he took his oath. I hope he's watching.
>>23851809You slither forward and take the handle of the lantern Her Illuminated Self doesn't let go yet."Ssen Patrick, do you vow to carry this light, to bring it to all of the corners of this world where the Lost are, to show them they way to His Sight and His Light?"
>>23851839With all of the conviction in our heart."I do."
>>23851839What's the formal form of address for Her Illuminated Self? The equivalent of "my liege" for royalty?"I do." Keep it simple.
Is it bad that I imagine Isen as a blonde version of this man?
>>23851839"I do."Don't have to go all the way to the corners of the world to find the Lost, miss.
>>23851866>Don't have to go all the way to the corners of the world to find the Lost, miss.Definitely true, but think this, don't say it. Not the time to ad-lib yet.
>>23851866"I do.""You vow to carry the burdens of others, by confession and deed, so that they may be able to reach His Light?"
>>23851884You know the answer.
>>23851884Tempted to add something here about also vowing to help people carry burdens, not just carrying them for them, but let's stick with "I do.".
>>23851896"I do.""Your Father was the last Caligo Clarus on record...your path may be very lonely sometimes. Please recite the oath of your order."
"For In The Darkness Is Where His Light Is Needed Most, Thus There In The Darkness I Must Stay."
>>23851910In brightest day, in blackest night...
>>23851921Funny, but let's not get cute here.Recite the oath, with feeling.
>>23851920"For In The Darkness Is Where His Light Is Needed Most, Thus There In The Darkness I Must Stay.""Then take this, and HIs Light be with you...Paladin Ssen Patrick."She lets go of the lantern.There's a moment. You feel someone's hand on your shoulder, squeezing it slightly. You turn, expecting to see Julian, but he's standing a little ways away...oh.You smile and nod.The lantern feels very heavy in your hand. "Any words, Paladin?" Isen asks.
>>23851952"Thank you, Daddy."
>>23851966Try to at least say father.
Was almost looking forward to being kicked out of the Citadel, just to were how this would happen without the order.
>>23851952"My Father told me many tales of his time as a Paladin, and I have learned many more from researching the Caligo Clarus. In all those stories, he rarely traveled alone; he had many companions with him, among them Paladin Julian here. Likewise, without my friends here, I would not be alive today, nor could I have accomplished the tasks for which I have been recognized. This ceremony is not just for me. Thank you, Tricia, Mage, Mari, Peri, and Lea."
>>23851973Please, like we don't still call him Daddy in our heart. There is nothing so solemn as absolute honesty.
damnit I didn't think of a speech at all.Raise your lantern.For my father. Who brought my out of the dark himself. For my friends who travel alongside me in the dark. For those who look to the light. And for those who await in the dark themselves hungry and cold and lost. I shall carry this lantern high. And for as long as I live I shall never put it down. This I swear. In the name of the Light.
>>23851979 I was too, but everyone had to be so damn good at being awesome without going Chaotic. Anyway, the rebel Paladin...eh...too Lightbringer anyway.
>>23851993I like this, other than a bit too much literalism with the lantern. Put this at the end of the speech about friends above. Also, "vow" rather than "swear", keeping with the tone of the ceremony.
>>23851966Btw, kinda meant say this as a very private whisper.
>>23851987"My Father told me many tales of his time as a Paladin, and I have learned many more from researching the Caligo Clarus. In all those stories, he rarely traveled alone; he had many companions with him, among them Paladin Julian here. Likewise, without my friends here, I would not be alive today, nor could I have accomplished the tasks for which I have been recognized. This ceremony is not just for me. Thank you, Tricia, Mage, Mari, Peri, and Lea."You raise the lantern."For my father. Who brought me out of the Dark. For my friends who travel alongside me in the Dark. For those who look to the Light. And for those who await in the Dark themselves hungry, cold, and lost. I shall carry this lantern high that they may see it. And for as long as I live I shall never put it down. This I swear. In the name of the Light."Your friends all bow their heads in solidarity. Tara's actually tearing up. Isen's nodding his head, impressed. Somehow, you just know he's working on how to steal that speech from you.Julian steps forward, with the record book. It's open to the blank page that's next to Father's. He hands you a quill."He would be proud. I know I am." He says.
>>23852026While signing it, "Does the book record Paladins only, or all those who stood with the Caligo Clarus?" If the latter, "Then I would ask my friends to sign, as well." And offer the pen to Tricia.
>>23852026>>23852045You don't need to be a Paladin to be part of the Occuli.
>>23852026>>23852045Mari and Peri can sign twice, both on the same line. And when all the members of our party have signed:"Prince Itzak, could you sign in the name of our absent friend, Isen?"
>>23852045"Does the book record Paladins only, or all those who stood with the Caligo Clarus?"Julian clears his throat. "It is done in this record, even though a tad unconvential." "Then I would ask my friends to sign, as well." You offer the pen to Tricia.Tricia signs, and passes it on. It goes to all of them, and Peri/Mari sign twice, Lea finishes it with her signature in Sands Script, looking very elegant, and gives it back to you. You see Tara and Isen standing there, both of them trying not to look TOO pleading.
>>23852068You hand it to Tara who scrawls her own name."Prince Itzak, could you sign in the name of our absent friend, Isen?" You say with a smile.Isen's eyes narrow, and then he nods and takes the pen. His signature takes up two spaces and goes across the entire page.
>>23852068But we haven't travelled with them. They're not in the party. Yet.
Have them sign as well. They may travel apart some of the time but they are true companions who serve the light from within the darkness as well.Though do tease Isen and Tara that they're stuck with you now.
>>23852081I just *knew* he was going to pull a John Hancock.>>23852083Tara helped us save four people from a lynching, and Isen acts as a herald, not to mention the timely stunt he pulled with the Contact of Stone Hall.
>>23852081>Isen's eyes narrow, and then he nods and takes the pen. His signature takes up two spaces and goes across the entire pageTypical. Give him a quick "Seriously?" look.
>>23852081"An audacious signature indeed. I'd expect nothing less from the author of the Contract of Stone Hall." Say it so he can *hear* the capital letters.
>>23852068"Julian, you have signed this book once, as a companion of my father. I would ask you to sign it again, as one of mine."
>>23852111that's a bit too much, I think. He's his own paladin.
>>23852111Now he's really not one of our companions.
>>23852111I doubt he'll be able to travel with us as the Red Occulli have their own duties.
>>23852121Who said he wasn't? But he has nonetheless helped us greatly. Consider his acts at Stone Hall, for one. And I'm also thinking that this would be a good thing for him to have done later on.
>>23852127He was a Red Occuli when he signed next to Paladin Liam Patrick, as well, and they didn't travel everywhere together either.
>>23852081Her Illuminated Self steps back forward as Julian and the others step back. She gently takes your Medallion from around your neck, and then sets it in the middle of the small silver plate that hangs from a glittering chain. "You may remove it, or reset this as you will." She says as she places the mantle around your neck. "As of now, you may now use the title of Paladin, and all that it represents. You may use the Patrick family crest. You may own land, and you may speak at the Open Council. You may take confession, give absolution, marry, and speak prayer for the dead. Your word is that of one of the highest authorities...remember that this is one of the heaviest things that you will ever wear." She says.She then places a circlet around your head. "I apologize, we lacked a little for this. I was forced to take the crystal that was in your father's helm of office that he returned to us when he retired. I set it within this." It's a silver circlet, with a single sphere in the center, a clear glass prism with a nearly countless number of facets. "This is what you are now, Ssen Patrick. You now represent something greater than yourself, and are part of something far grander. Blessings upon you," She smiles. "Paladin Serpent."
Tara before julian.Did tara sign?also, you guys are so nuts with the signing.
>>23852144>She then places a circlet around your head. "I apologize, we lacked a little for this. I was forced to take the crystal that was in your father's helm of office that he returned to us when he retired. I set it within this.""I cannot think of a circlet I would be prouder to wear; I appreciate having something of his to carry with me into the darkness."
>>23852144I am trying my best not to squeal like a bitch here.
>>23852146Yes, Tara signed.
>>23852144Do we know what the Patrick family crest is?We should find out, and take it to Gregory.
>>23852146yes Tara signed as did Isen.>>23852144Thank her for the honor and bow.
>>23852163"I cannot think of a circlet I would be prouder to wear; I appreciate having something of his to carry with me into the darkness."She nods. "I will leave you and your friends to your meditations." She leaves with Julian.The silence of the park lasts for about eight minutes."Party time!" Isen says. "Come on, I know a place where they carve glasses out of ice! First drinks are on the Paladin Serpent!"
>>23852192Oh no, he still hasn't surprised us yet
>>23852192Laugh and lets go celebrate. Don't indulge too much. We want to leave first thing in the morning.
>>23852192this cannot end well...
>>23852192Roll a 1d6
>>23852192"As a Paladin, aren't I supposed to frown upon such things?" Put on your best Lawful Stupid Paladin voice: "I'm sorry, I cannot approve of these beverages; the stick up my tail simply could not allow it."
Rolled 5>>23852212>>23852192Try not to celibrate too hard now. Temperance! You're a paladin now for reals!
Rolled 3maybe my dice are fixed
average roll is average... oh well
>>23852209This, and remind our friends that we need to be on our guard until we leave. Don't stop them from having fun, but let's not get into "dice penalties for inebriation" territory here.
>>23852192We have about 10 gold on us, total, right? Or did we already take payment from our caravan travelers?
>>23852192>"Party time!" Isen says. "Come on, I know a place where they carve glasses out of ice! First drinks are on the Paladin Serpent!"What kind of a bard are you, Isen, that you and your party have to *pay* for drinks?
Before we follow Isen, talk to him: "We're less than 24 hours from leaving Citadel for Stone Hall, and I can't say I'm greatly in the mood for surprises right now. You mentioned a second bit of good news?"
>>23852216When the morning light hits you, you realize a few things.One, you're back up in the Caligo Clarus attic.Two, you're in your nest, and the only thing you have on is your mantle and circlet.Three, Tricia is in the nest with you, you're both curled up around each other like usual, and she's only got her hat on.Thankfully, someone put a blanket over Father's statue.Your head also is pounding. The last thing you remember is drinking this blue thing with Tara.
>>23852144>You may take confession, give absolution, marry, and speak prayer for the dead.>>23852192> "Party time!" Isen says. "Come on, I know a place where they carve glasses out of ice! First drinks are on the Paladin Serpent!"This suggests a new twist on the old story of getting drunk and waking up in the morning having married someone.
Anybody want to bet that that glass gem has been the passed down through the entire existence of the Caligo Claris? Or at least its existence as a Paladin order?
>>23852276welp, look around for clothes. tell the person banging on the door you'll be a minute. You have to get presentable
>>23852283...oh, His Light, I posted this before Echo's latest response, and now I'm very concerned.
>>23852288Its the First Lantern.It has the power to illuminate people from the darkness.Its not a symbolic artifact, its an actual fucking legendary artifact.
>>23852216>>23852276oh god, we had a 4some didnt we...
>>23852298No, but more stuff would have been present if you rolled higher.
if we don't remember it it doesn't count.
>>23852303So...if it was a one we'd be in the attic.If it was a two we'd be naked as well.
more stuff as in more companions or more clothes?
>>23852276"Hey Tricia? I don't know about you, but I'm a little fuzzy on last night. I don't regret what it looks like we did, but I had the most worrying dream: I didn't use my newfound matromonial powers last night, did I?"
>>23852289You and Tricia gather up your clothes and tidy up the attic, you give father a kiss goodbye, and make your way down and out from the Cathedral.You walk towards the caravan. Mage joins up with you. He's adjusting his robes and has a black eye."Hey, you two okay?" He asks.
>>23852324SHouldn't I be asking you that?We're fine by the way. A little embarassed and a little worried what we got up to after the blue thing but fine
>>23852324"Very okay, yes. Better than you, it seems. What happened?"
>>23852324"We're ...something. What's with the shiner? Did Tara want to cuddle again?"
>>23852324>>23852322"Not sure..." You say. "I didn't use my newfound matrimonial powers, last night, did I?"Mage laughs. "No, but you tried. That's how the fight started."
>>23852334"oh dear...""Who did we try and marry?"
>>23852334Dare I ask for details?
>>23852334"Oh dear. What happened?"
>>23852334"Fight? His Light above, is everyone else OK? Who did I try to give the 'I do's to?
Imagining scenarios:Isen and Tara.Us and Tricia (and a bystander didn't approve).If we were *really* drunk, Mage and Tara (and Isen didn't approve).Mage and Sophie, and Gregory didn't approve.
(Can a Paladin act as both officiant and participant in a marriage ceremony? I would guess "no", but I wonder.)
>>23852367You forgot Mage and Isen, and Tara didn't approve.
>>23852379beat me to it, damn 25+ digit captcha
>>23852379If that were the case, Mage would have to be as drunk as Tricia and Ssen seem to have been, and since he doesn't seem hung over that seems unlikely. Or do ghouls not get drunk?
>>23852382You can click on a captcha to get a different one.
So... what's on the agenda today? Are we leaving?
>>23852395Right now, we're recovering from "Paladin: the Drunkening".What time did we tell the caravan we'd be there?
>>23852385>Or do ghouls not get drunk?They do when they cannibalize a white russian.
>>23852401Or, given Mage's vegetarianism, when they drink graaaaaaains alcohol.
>>23852393oh i know, but I couldnt be bothered with a noncritical post.
>>23852334Tricia stops looking at the ground and being red, and her eyes go wide. "Oh, right...that." She bursts into giggles."What happened?" You ask. "What's with the shiner, did Tara want to cuddle again? Who did I try to give the 'I do's to?Mage chuckles. "You and Tara were astoundingly drunk and, as always, trying to fight each other. You kind of failed and collapsed into each other. Isen made a joke, and you said that he couldn't make those kind of jokes to you any more, since you were a Paladin."Mage waves at the others waiting at the caravan. They also look a little scuffed up. Lea has the lantern you got from HIS in the wagon."You threatened to chop off Isen's cock." Mage continues. "And Isen said something about how he could bring a woman to his knees with only a fraction of an inch. To which you said that he was being generous about his equipment." He sighed. "Isen laughed it off, which only made you madder. Then you said that you'd do the worst thing you could to him, stick him with one woman forever."Tricia laughs "I remember! You said you were going to marry him to Tara right then and there. Tara was all for it, she lunged at Isen and...""And things kind of went insane for a moment. Every one was fighting the girls were trying to hold his Audaciousness down, you were standing on a table reciting the matrimony rite, out of order and VERY slurred, and the rest of the bar devolved into a fight as well." Mage says."Then," Peri finishes the tale. "When we're all on the ground, laughing, and smarting, you scoop Tricia up, and claim that the two of you needed time for an intimate confession...and you slid off. We've been looking for you. Where'd you find them Mage?""Coming out of the Cathedral." He says."Isen can really dodge if he tries." Lea chuckles. "Tara took it in all good fun. Still, we should probably not act as foolish as that again for a while."
You are probably right. Serious Paladin Face.
>>23852419"OK, that could have been much worse. I think I'll be adding drinking to sleeping in on my list of things that seem to lead to trouble. But you forgot the biggest travesty of the evening: whatever Tricia and I did, I'd like to remember it next time."
>>23852419"This. Never. Happened."
>>23852444No, that was yesterday.
>>23852419"I think I'm going to avoid that blue stuff from here out. So nothing permanent damaged?
>>23852419I'm now imagining Ssen slurring drunkenly, exaggerating all her S's terribly.Because ain't no drunk like a snake drunk.
>>23852419>"Then you said that you'd do the worst thing you could to him, stick him with one woman forever."ok i think i stopped laughing enough hat i can type again.
>>23852442"OK, that could have been much worse. I think I'll be adding drinking to sleeping in on my list of things that seem to lead to trouble. But you forgot the biggest travesty of the evening: whatever Tricia and I did, I'd like to remember it next time."Tricia punches you in the shoulder. "We made out, and then YOU passed out. Don't go making this into a Citadel play."
>>23852450This. Also, what *was* that blue stuff?
>>23852456"My comment stands; it's a travesty not to remember your kisses. Here, let's fix that." (kiss her.)
>>23852450"I think I'm going to avoid that blue stuff from here out. So nothing permanent damaged?"Nothing a few gold didn't fix." Mari says."What *was* that blue stuff?" You ask,Tricia giggles. And Lea shakes her head."You're going to hate yourself when you hear it." Mage warns."What?" You demand."They called it a Glass Scorpion Stinger." Mari says, laughing.
>>23852484Make a personal note:Drive all glass scorpions from civilized lands one day. All of them.
>>23852484just groan and shake our head
>>23852484>Glass Scorpion StingerToo much disdain even to facepalm. Thousand-yard stare for a few moments, then, "Well we should get going soon."
>>23852484"Well, at least this one wore off before three months had passed. And I'm growing to like having Tricia around when I recover from unconsciousness."
>>23852456Wait until we can talk to Tricia alone, and ask, "So if we just made out, how'd you end up garbed in that very cute hat and very cute nothing else?"
>>23852473You growl and vow the destruction of all Glass Scorpions, everywhere. Then you take a breath and look at Tricia. "My comment stands; it's a travesty not to remember your kisses. Here, let's fix that."The two of you kiss. The others smile and go back to getting ready to leave.Your moment with Tricia is interrupted by the arrival of Isen and Tara.Isen's back in his usual Royal Blue and Gold armor. Tara's now dressed in her armor, but now she's got on a royal blue and gold tabard and royal blue gloves.They're sitting at the head of one of the most hideously extravagant carriages that you've ever seen in your life."Don't you dare!" Isen snaps as he approaches, pointing at you. "I will turn this thing right around and order you all be made anathema! Got it?"
>>23852527"I'm sorry for being a buffoon last night; apparently I'm a rather creative drunk. The offer of marriage still stands, but only if and when you and Tara both want it."
>>23852527Fail to restrain a smileIs that the price you had to pay for being set free of your cage?
>>23852527Try to resist the urge to put up a "Just Married" sign on the back of their carriage when they're not looking.Fail to resist.
>>23852527Are we even wearing clothes at this point?
>>23852537"I'm sorry for being a buffoon last night; apparently I'm a rather creative drunk. The offer of marriage still stands, but only if and when you and Tara both want it."Isen shudders at the very idea of singular matrimony. You find it odd that Isen the Audacious, of all people, would feel that being married would mean that he'd have to stick to one person. Apparently he takes those vows seriously. Once more, that very very thin shred of dignity and royal nobility you see every so often shows, and then is hidden by the rest of the jackass that he is."So, this is the caravan to Stone Hall!" He waves to the other members, who are more than a little shocked to see two more people, and the fanciest thing on wheels. "Hello good people! The three of us will be joining you on this little trip."Tara waves.
>>23852559>>23852324> You and Tricia gather up your clothes and tidy up the attic
>>23852570...uh-oh. This would be the surprise. "Three?"
>>23852570no... don't tell me. The phoenix princess is coming with us.Did we ever read her letter? Quick what did it say?
>>23852570>threeOh piss, he brought Yoko with him!?
either he brought the princess ORRRHe brought the "prince". Who won't be leaving the carriage.
>>23852593Heh, that would be perfect. It'll be fun to watch him play Superman and Clark Kent here.
>>23852570Guess his surprise before he says it: "Ah, are you escorting the noble but reclusive Prince Itzak as well?"
>>23852581"Three?""Royal footman?" Isen asks Tara. Tara salutes and gets down and opens the door to the carriage, gently she picks up the person inside and carries her outside.She had to, the girl's feet have apparently been bound. They're no bigger than a toddler's. She's in one of those feather covered dresses and the usual white make-up. She nods her head at everyone."Ladies and Gentlemen, her high royal highness, here to see our great kingdom. I give you Princess Mumei of the Phoenix Kingdom!" There's a little bit of applause and some bowing.The princess says something in the Phoenix tongue."She's had enough sun," Isen says to Tara. "Put her back inside."Tara puts the princess back and closes the door.Isen looks at you and shrugs. "It was the only way I could get out of here. I figured it might be good for her too, you know." He pauses as he looks at your faces. "Hey, I at least learned her name!"
>>23852620>"She's had enough sun, put her back inside."Isen, you glorious asshole, never change.
>>23852620Alright, since we're about to set out, it's time for the prayer we planned on.
>>23852620Try to wipe that look off your face.
>>23852630I don't know how the heck I'm supposed to deal with a bound foot princess.I hope isen knows how to care for her, because I only barely do.
>>23852620Bound feet? Wait a second. She was at the ball. I don't remember for sure if she danced, but i could've sworn we saw her standing, talking to Isen.
>>23852620"Oh, no, I'm not worrying about that. Well, now I am. Do we have anyone here who even speaks her language?"
>>23852620Gather everyone around, make sure you've got your circlet on, and grasp your newly enmantled medallion. "May His Light protect and guide our travels. We leave for Stone Hall in peace; may we travel in peace, and arrive in peace. [And may no Peace disturb us, you think.] And may His Light guide these people traveling to begin a new life in a new city, that they may take the best of their old lives with them and leave the rest behind."
>>23852671I believe you can still stand with bound feet, but you obviously can't move very fast.
I think its time to elarn what was in that letter she sent us.
>>23852683I can't seem to find that in the archives; link?
>>23852653>>23852673"Oh, no, I'm not worrying about that. Well, now I am. Do we have anyone here who even speaks her language?"Isen raises his hand. "That would be me."Of course it would. This is going to be a long two weeks, plus. Well...sooner this starts the sooner this is over.You and Lea walk out in front of the Caravan."Paladin Ssen will now lead us in prayer and bless us for a swift and safe journey." Lea says.The group masses up together, and bows their heads.>>23852671 She's able to stand a little and do a little dancing for very brief periods of time, but mostly she just sits and looks pretty.
>>23852677And an addition:"May we understand each other clearly, and stand strong against the Darkness."
>>23852683>inb4 written in her language as well
>>23852706"May the Light guide and guard us all on our Journey."
>>23852677>>23852706This sounds pretty good.We should have lea start playing some light travelling music once we're out of earshot of the citadel.
>>23852703Linking the post for response:>>23852677>>23852706>>23852717These three, in order.
When we go to actually leave, we should figure out who we're putting where. Let's get Isen and Tara and the princess to the middle of the caravan, where we can protect them best. Bad Things would happen if anything happened to the princess. We should put party members towards the back, front, and sides of the caravan. And let's keep the butcher and Widdy far away from each other.
At the end, quietly, where nobody else other than our party can hear, add the prayer we used against Citadel before: "May the Light blind the eyes of malice, and may its ears hear only his Teachings." "Let us have a safe departure."
>>23852677"May His Light protect and guide our travels. We leave for Stone Hall in peace; may we travel in peace, and arrive in peace." You say, hoping that Peace is still with the Lightbringers...you slip in a brief prayer for those two poor souls. "And may His Light guide these people traveling to begin a new life in a new city, that they may take the best of their old lives with them and leave the rest behind. May we understand each other clearly, and stand strong against the Darkness. May the Light guide and guard us all on our journey.""Amen." Lea says."Amen." The group choruses.And with that, the animals are started and the wagons begin to roll. Lea takes out her lute, and begins to play.Finally, after what seems like far far FAR too long, you leave Citadel behind you, and the Thing of Sparks and Shadows with it.The first day is of course, fine. You're just walking through the grain fields, spirits are high, the kids scamper around, and everyone's filled with excitement and good cheer.Isen walks up next to you. "So, if you get a chance, her majesty wants to talk to you. I'll translate. She's got a lot of questions."
>>23852761before we talk to her get that damn letter translated or read it if it already is.
>>23852761Nod calmly and agree to do it when we stop for the day.When he's out of eyesight quickly pull out that letter and read it.
>>23852761"Certainly." Follow him back to their carriage.
>>23852777>>23852779We don't need to wait for the end of the day, but definitely read the letter first, and get Isen's help translating it if necessary.
>>23852790If we still have her letter, have Isen translate it for us. Then speak with her.
Ah, found it:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/23809094/#p23810588> "Oh, uhh...here." She hands you a piece of paper that's folded into the shape of a strange looking bird. "That's a thank you from Princess Yadda-Yadda from the Phoenix Empire...I think...she doesn't speak Citadel."Good catch, redaeth!
>>23852777You unfold the folded piece of paper, there's a lot of Phoenix Empire script. You have no idea what it says."Sure, when we make our first stop." You say."Okay, she just wants to know what you are, what's a paladin, and how much she has to tithe to you so you don't eat her first born child." He says.
>>23852805"Oh, that's going to be a *fun* conversation. Hey Isen, could you help me read this? It's a letter from the Princess, and I've been having so much *fun* lately that I haven't had time to read it. I'd like to do so before talking to her."
Hey.Hey guys.Hey.WE'RE A PALADIN NOW!
>>23852805"Isen, can you by any chance read this language?""And I'd consider eating her firstborn, if only to prevent it being raised by you. (joking, of course)"
>>23852805"Well, before we get to those pressing and essential questions, can you help me read this letter she sent? I never did get it translated, and it would be rude to have not read it."
>>23852805Let's have that conversation very carefully; it sounds to me like she might really just need more information here, since as a Princess she'd have almost no exposure to Lamias other than in stories, and she probably wouldn't even encounter the people bringing them around as "pets". So we've got an opportunity here to give her the truth.
We should take this opportunity to ask about the Phoenix Empire from Isen and this princessircc all we know is>The only other known Continent is across the ocean from Citadel. The Phoenix Empire. The only thing you know about it is that it's there, and Isen has to marry a princess from it.
>>23852823Funny, but don't even joke about this, at least not yet.
>>23852841We should ask her what lamias do in her home country to give her such frightful beliefs.
If, for some reason, Isen doesn't actually read the language, then I think we could approach the princess with Isen and the letter in tow, telling her that we appreciate her correspondence but we have not yet had a chance to translate the letter, and asking her if she'd be so kind as to tell us through Isen what it says.
>>23852816I keep having that thought every 5 minutes, too. Feels so *satisfying*.
>>23852815"Oh, that's going to be a *fun* conversation. Hey Isen, could you help me read this? It's a letter from the Princess, and I've been having so much *fun* lately that I haven't had time to read it. I'd like to do so before talking to her." You say."Okay, lemme see...uhh...okay, that means thank you, that means 'Dancing Man of the Great Heron and Loon' this is 'Serpent Queen' and...okay..." He frowns. "Thank you Serpent Queen, your actions continued the dancing of the Great Loon whom I soar under wing. I hear the Egg Taker in my rustling, and my down shivers. Does your eggs become food, or are you without fear for your never wings are not his to pluck. Thank you again, Serpent Queen. You confuse my flight."He shakes his head. "Okay, I hope that made sense to you."
>>23852865Give him a hard look. "Isen, just how much time have you taken learning her language? Because the last thing I want to do is have a serious conversation with the princess that's going to come out like that letter just did."
>>23852865Huh, it seems like she's at least vaguely aware of Citadel's true nature.
>>23852865"Enough sense to give me questions to ask of my own. I wonder how much of that was theology, and how much was farming.
>>23852865A lot of symbolism there. I believe the Egg Taker is death. The Loon is Isen. She alludes to her that she is the Heron. Her people must associate with birds very strongly.
>>23852893Well, it is the Phoenix Empire. Perhaps some of these are colloquialisms that Isen is translating literally.
>>23852879"Isen, just how much time have you taken learning her language? Because the last thing I want to do is have a serious conversation with the princess that's going to come out like that letter just did.""I can't help it, it's not a word to word translation. They talk in this strange way of bird metaphors and lots of things about feathers and sky and apparently the word that means 'soar' has eighteen different meanings." Isen shrugs. "I'm glad I can tell when she needs to go the bathroom!"
>>23852900most likely>>23852909gods Isen. Maybe Mage knows a translation spell.
>>23852865Other than the "You confuse my flight" at the end, I can see how that could be interpreted as deeply symbolic, but I could also see how it could be interpreted as Isen pulling a "my hovercraft is full of eels". Let's find out which.
>>23852865>>23852909Mentally prepare for an intense and confusing game of pictionary.
>>23852915Mage shrugs. "Maybe...but do you really want me doing magic on your tongue or ears? Cause I think I know something that's like that...but it's kinda sorta Ghoul magic, and you'll need to eat some of her hair."
>>23852915Not a bad thought; let's ask him.>>23852909OK, let's go ahead and have the conversation with the Princess the next time we stop. We should start out explicitly saying that because we're speaking two different languages, she should stop us if we say anything that sounds strange, shocking, or even slightly unclear, because it might simply be an error or translation. We'll promise to do the same, and we hope to avoid any misunderstandings.
>>23852933How bad will any side effects be?
>>23852933Yeah.... lets keep the Ghoul magic to a minimum.
>>23852933"I could live with that, if you think it's reliable." We can ask Isen for one of her hairs; Isen said she'd do anything, and proved it by asking her to spin around and cluck.
>>23852933eating hair isn't that bad... but will she take it well?
>>23852933I think we should go for the translation spell, but still have Isen around for translation: hearing the results of both lets us hopefully infer more than we'd get from just one.
>>23852933>>23852940>>23852939no ghoul magic, it could have gotten us in big trouble before, and NOW we are an actual Paladin.
(honestly Im of the opinion that ghoul magic isn't that bad as long as you don't feast on the flesh of sentients. Its more shamnism then anything else then)
>>23852933>>23852944Let's lay off the ghoul magic. We can just deal with having to play a bit of purple monkey dishwasher."On second thought, no thanks mage. I'll try to do this the Isen way."Try not to laugh.
>>23852949Clarification: I think we should go for the spell on our ears to translate what she says and what Isen says. Let's not try to speak Phoenix Empire tongue directly.
>>23852942"I could live with that, if you think it's reliable.""Ssen, I'd be making it up as I go along." Mage says. "If you wanted me to be sure, you'd just eat her tongue. THAT I could work with, easy, but I doubt it's the best option." He sighs. "I don't know about side effects though...exactly how fond are you of what hair you have left?"
>>23852951Agreed. I don't see how this would be considered blasphemous or against any rule of being a Paladin; it isn't even blood, and the Teachings don't say anything against magic in general.
>>23852958"I don't really care one way or the other. I don't really think that white's really my color, you know?"
>>23852958"Ah. I'm not too worried about the side effects, but I think I'd prefer to try something that's been tested before. Let's leave experimental spell creation for a less critical time. I'll muddle through with Isen's...help."
>>23852966do you really want to risk a miscast on an untested ghoul magic spell though?
>>23852958no tongue eating for me. As for my hair, what is another change? I'm not too attached to the colour white myself.
>>23852979We could test it on Isen.
>>23852958Yeah, there's no reason to risk untested magic on such a relatively trivial matter.
>>23852958(I'm finding myself wondering if an ear hair would work better for the spell to hear their language. His Light above, why am I wondering that?)
>>23852951I would have to agree.>>23852958"There are worse things that I could have to deal with. But you have a point, I'll try to get by without it. I would appreciate if you'd try to get it figured out in the mean time though."
>>23852984thats even worse!untested ghoul magic on a Prince! and the only one that can speak to the princess!
>that feel when you kinda like white hair but nobody else in the thread seems to
>>23852984Isen is the backup plan, though; we don't want to mess with his own ability to translate.
then if we are going to be dealing with the pheonix empire in the future we're going to have to do this the hard way.Isen since we have a bit of time... would you teach me her language? Not now but later
Guys this is a really dumb idea for so many reasons please don't do itJUST TALK LIKE NORMAL CREATURES
>>23852995>>23853004It was a joke.
>>23852992This. "It might come in handy in the future. Perhaps you could see if anyone else in the party or caravan speaks another language, and experiment on it with them. Best to try it for the first time with someone who also speaks our language, so we can evaluate any mistranslations."
>>23853011this is a far better plan>>23853014internet, tone, 5am etc.
>>23852958We're not going to eat any part of the princess.
>>23852992"There are worse things that I could have to deal with. But you have a point, I'll try to get by without it. I would appreciate if you'd try to get it figured out in the mean time though." You say."Got it." He salutes. "The good news is that Isen and the Princess' presence has shut up the Swings. They're trying to figure out how to cosy up to them. But Isen's well...Isen, and who knows about the Princess." He shrugs. "Do you think I should ask Sophie out on a date? I mean...when we get to Stone Hall. I think if I ask her now Gregory might stab me in the eye with a needle."
>>23853038I think that would be a good idea Mage.
>>23853038"You'll never know until you try."
>>23853038"I'd worry more about Sophie herself. She was so bothered by that voice in the back of her head that wanted a romance. Once you both get to Stone Hall, and out from under that influence, start getting to know her a bit better and see where it goes."
>>23853038>The good news is that Isen and the Princess' presence has shut up the Swings. They're trying to figure out how to cosy up to them.This is worrying, and not necessarily good news. Bigotry and xenophobia go hand in hand; do they really want to cosy up, or does the wife want to attack the princess?
Hey Echo, the thread is on page 7 and falling right now; I think we might need to archive and start a new thread if we're going to keep going tonight.
The true face of the Citadel.
>>23853058"I'd worry more about Sophie herself. She was so bothered by that voice in the back of her head that wanted a romance. Once you both get to Stone Hall, and out from under that influence, start getting to know her a bit better and see where it goes.""Yeah." He sighs."But you never know until you try."He smiles. "Hey, Ssen...one last thing. Remember at the dance, we just made up a last name for me? I...have an idea for one, but I need you to say that it's okay." He sighs. "I mean, you've been here for me since the start, and I know you and Tricia, I'm the little brother of the group, and now there's Sophie and..." He groans. "Babbling again...may I call myself Mage Patrick?"
>>23853100Smile. "I'd be honored."
>>23853100Ruffle his hair."I always did kind of want a kid brother!"
>>23853109and Im sure Father would welcome you with open arms.
>>23853100"Well, my father did adopt me after all; I think it's time to continue a family tradition. Welcome to the family, Mage Patrick."
>>23853092we still have a while to go before the thread drops off, /tg/ is at a snail's pace for threads actually dropping off the board from ~1am-8am EST
>>23853114You ruffle his hair."I always did kind of want a kid brother!"He smiles. "Quit it...sis." He blushes.And the road goes on.>>23853100 I'm actually dropping myself, I'm gonna pass out for the night and try for an earlier morning. 3-24-13 Noon-2pm PST Ending credits theme of the series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbhAf62wfgE
>>23853100I look forward to the first time he introduces himself as Mage Patrick, someone asks for his first name, and he says "Mage".Not looking forward to the first time someone thinks we're married, though.
>>23853098I'm really worried that the final act of this Quest will resemble the final act of that movie.
>>23853141>noon-2 PSTwhat is this? an EARLY showing of lamia quest? Color me intrigued! I will see you then, echo! And thanks for a wonderful session of the Stone hall Trail!WE'RE A PALADIN NOW
>>23853181>Next time on Lamia Quest!>MARY SWING has died of dysentry
>>23853190Our luck isn't that good.
>>23853190>>23853201>ISEN THE AUDATIOUS has died of UNSUSPICIOUS POISONED STAB WOUNDS
>>23853211You mean>EXOTIC STD
>>23853217oh come on, everyone here is cleanARE THEY?
>>23849543Citadel Kingdom is about as big as North America, give or take. North is uncharted tundra which gives to Arctic, south is predominantly desert and savannah, Purple Sands is the southern most town. River's Crossing is closer to White Tree but is closer to Stone Hall than Citadel.Wait, we crossed the distance from Stone hall to Grand Ciotadel -one shore to the other- in what, week? Two weeks?It would take months to cross a continent the size of North America by horse.
>>23853327I guess the Nightmare really is all that?
>>23853327Mapper here. I left no scale because of that very problem. I think it's a scaling error on the part of echo, since that's hard to get right as a DM. I always fuck up magnificently when trying to guess how many people or how big a thing.
>>23853343You could always put the scale in terms of travel weeks.If we know that it takes two weeks travel to get from Stone Hall to Citadel...From there you simply need to work out the distance you can travel in a week.
>>23853141>3-24-13 Noon-2pm PSTMedallion melt guy here, by that time frame, then, I'll be 2-4 hours late to the thread because work. I've been staying up to 5am every night to follow this thread and now i have to bag fucking groceries and miss part of it.ButtfrustratedSince I won't be here, casting my word now.Mumei is an ambassador of sorts and may well be the first source of information her nation gets about Lamiae. Let's take a very sweet, exceedingly patient tone when we speak with her (the importance of tone and body language is magnified when she can't directly hear our words.) and begin by asking her to tell us anything she knows/thinks about Ssen. Once we patiently gather a good picture of all her misconceptions, then we'll educate her completely.Because innocent ignorance is both one of the most dread manners of darkness in the world, as well as one of the easiest to rectify.