>Love /tg/s and want to play them>Dislike people too much to be able to enjoy the group activity>Can't play aloneWhat is this bullshit?
Create people in your imagination. Play with yourself. There you go.
Play solitaire.Or play online games. When you stop wanting to play with people you can just log off.
Develop some sort of multiple personality disorder so you are never without friends.Or go full autist and just sit on piles and piles of games and never play them.
>>23098241dude. Just find friends. Not everyone is retarded you arogant fuck. If you go to YFLGS not every one is dumb.
You need to find better persons to play with. People suck, that's universal, but when you separate them from the group and get to know the better individual Persons, some of them are downright tolerable.
I once played a campaign using a technique known as character splitting. It's a thought process authors use I write for a living, and employe it myself in which you take a portion of your mind and section it off. You then allow it to act independently, having thoughts parallel to yours. At first it takes concentration and you most likely will only be able to do one without getting the thoughts of you and it muddled and returning to a singular state. The thoughts themselves don't have to be different, but they must be thought in different ways. It will take a few weeks to get to a state where concentration is not longer required to keep one going, and you can do it as a background thing while performing other tasks. At this point I am able to maintain seven at once while writing. The campaign I spoke of consisted of me as GM, and four sectioned off "people" as the players. It was very fun.Also, attempt to avoid inducing schizophrenia.
>>23098279>If you go to YFLGS not every one is dumb.That's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever read on /tg/.
>>23098479Not really a friendly local game store if everyone's an asshole. It's just a LGS.
I've always wanted to get into table top gaming, but I don't know any people to play with.
>>23098479I call double bullshit.We must now decide this with a duel, and because I am the challenger you must choose the weapon.
Sounds like you want escapism, but not social activities.Tell me about your mother.
I've played with several groups.I've had one where the group are acting like kids not wanting their action-figures to get harmed while the GM explains how everything explodes in fire and is so awesome it's incomprehensible.Others where there is just no mood or exitement, where it feels like everyone just wants to go home and stop playing.I'm in one now playing Pathfinder, and everyone in the group besides the DM acts like they're playing characters from some hack n' slash comic strip. Shallow and merry no matter what. It's like they're hardly even characters at all, and the players are loud and unfocused.Not to mention they don't have a single clue of what the fuck they're doing, cause reading the few basic parts of the core rulebook is too much for them.
>>23098522She's dead, I never knew her.Also fuck you.
>>23098469That is literally tulpa creation. It's induced schizophrenic hallucinations/delusions. While it's very effective, make sure you keep a damn good grasp on reality. I worry for your mental health. I often do the same thing with new characters in my stories. I'll fast-forward from their introduction to some pivotal moment with previously introduced characters, as well as to-be-introduced characters, and act out scenes in my head. I switch around my thought process as appropriate for each character, as they speak or do something.Then I realize it's been forty-five minutes since I started, and I'm still sitting on the toilet, my ass going numb.
>>23098542I'm a horrible person for laughing, and I'm sorry. I've been here too long.
>>23098519French Ticklers at dawn.Let this be our final battle.
>>23098579It's okay, like I said, I never knew her.
>>23098551Don't worry, after a while you don't have to turn them off anymore. It's not like they can get control of my actual body probably, there have been a few incidents, but they just make good stories. Make my mind a labyrinth, trap them inside then go after them when needed. It's gotten a bit odd lately and the internal structure has been defined into something far more complex and overall complicated than I would have thought, but that's not bad. Also the interactions are a bit odd as of late. When I began it was merely voices and stuff, but sometimes in my minds eye it feels like I really am somewhere inside my own brain. Like it is a dream, but as real as real life. I can meet the people in my head. I don't know... it's odd.Seriously though, don't worry.
>>23098619I wish you luck, this war shall finally end.
>>23098711Ummm... this is one of the fucking creepiest things I have ever read. Are you sure you're ok dude?
>>23098711Can one use this technique with waifus?My... uh... friend is curious.
>>23098730This.Entirely creepy....but, I want to hear more. maybe it's my inner /x/ talking but I've always found the idea of multiple characters interacting with each other through one body as interesting.
>>23098777Are you willing to step into the jaws of madness to see your waifu? Even is doing so risks her rejection.
>>23098826Then just do what the guy says, you'll be insane, but you'll find your waifu.
>>23098798I'll answer questions if you want. What do you want to know?>>23098814Not trying to be. I apologize if I offend.
>>23098856I'm pretty sure I already do this... though I do it with the perspectives of gods Which one could say I have or have not "made-up" Two out of three are condescending as all shit, and the one nice one, isn't exactly nice to a fault...
>>23098856I demand story time you crazy fucker.
>>23098856I'm horrible at asking questions so I suppose some stories would be nice if that's not to much to ask bro
>>23098950>>23098966Well, stories are a tad personal. These are all reflections of myself in my own mind. Even the portions of the events that have proceeded into odd happenings...The thing is I can find people in my mind, people I have created from scratch than now have life of their own. I may or may not have feelings for some of them and fear the day I must turn them off for good. The times I have let someone else hold the reigns to my body have been terrifying, knowing the feeling they have of simply being another marble in the pile. I don't know if they can turn me off, or if only I have the power. I don't know what it feels like to be turned off, and most of them are reluctant to tell me, and those who do have unlatching stories.My mind has become a weird place lately, but at least life isn't boring.
>>23098241>>23098542Well OP if both of these are you I'd suggest sacking up and not being a limp wristed over sensitive douche about things.
>>23099015I would legitimately watch a show about this. It sounds fucking interesting.
>>23099015>>23099037The idea here Anon, is one of two concepts.One is just the ability to roleplay as well you can do it with yourself, and thus run simulation conversations through your head. Nothing /x/, magical, or neat about it. Its just called being a good actor and knowing what people would "do" in a situation, so you can just think a conversation between two fictional people in your head.THEN, theres what this faggot is talking about, which is trying to shatter your mind into schizophrenia for fun and profit.>Trust me, I know. I come from /mlp/ and the more sick people from there have been trying to use these mystical irrational techniques for months trying to create pony waifus.>You can vomit now.
>>23099082Yes, but none of them succeeded now did they?It seems /tg/ once again proves it's superiority by producing the first man who can create his own waifus. Truly a visionary.
>>23099112>Yes, but none of them succeeded now did they?Have you even been on 4chan, much less the internet for the past few years? Of course they succeeded (or at least post elaborate stories about how they succeeded) and stories of it has seeped into every nook and cranny of the internet by now
>>23099112I can't vouch, and personally think its impossible, but one person claimed it worked.>Except his Pinkie Pie waifu went crazy and started screaming, non-stop, for hours and hours, and he couldn't figure out how to make it stop.>He didn't return to the thread after a certain time I think.>I can only imagine he was either trolling, or the Warp overtook him.
>>23099129Oh, never mind then. This is the first time I've heard of it actually. Though how bad can it be, the guy seems stable enough now doesn't he?
>>23099151Go read up on tulpas instead of posting here. Use wikipedia or something.You tell me if its a sane thing to do after.
>>23098814>hurrdurr that guy said something that someone is gonna find interesting, what an attention whore>goes back to fat, cisgender, white, american, male, /k/publican, natty-light-drinkin' life
>>23099182I said stable, not sane. I'll give it a look though. Still would watch a show about a guy who did this though. It would make a good series.
>>23099201Its called Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends
>>23099136So people will truly march into the jaws of madness to find their waifus. Humans really are fickle things.
>>23099214I meant one not meant for children, but ok.
Ok guy, I'm the the guy who has done this. It's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. It's basically like sharing the space with a few other individuals. As long as you maintain a really strong sense of self and assert your dominance over your own mind nothing bad will happen. Also only let someone take over the reigns in the most extreme of circumstances.My mind is not shattered, merely cracked, and through the cracks I can find things others can not.
>>23099214>Foster's home is a show about tulpas..........
>>23099240Bro, you're sounding more bats hit with each post.
>>23099240Assuming>Big ifYou're telling the truth. You literally created lesser wills within your mind, breaking your mind apart.Nigga thats dumb.>"As long as you can remain in control, nothing bad can happen.">Nothing bad can happen>Nothing bad can happen........>No....thi.....ng bad can happen.......
>>23099240I like you but how did you do this, through sheer will power, drugs, deals with demons, how could you achieve such a thing?
>My mind is not shattered, merely cracked, and through the cracks I can find things others can not.sounds like BBEG talk to me
>>23099282>>23099279We all know how he did this.
>>23099240Will you fuck me as all your different aspects? I'll let you squirt your crazy sauce inside me.
>>2309924010/10, will use in my next campaign.
>>23099263I've been doing this for a long time. Besides, nothing ventured nothing gained. Risking madness for the sake of my art is something I am willing to do. If my mind is cracked, or even broken, as long as my work does not suffer it does not matter.What are people anyway? What defines an individual as a rightfully inhabitant of our world? Who begets my emotions, feelings, and memories as more important than those who I have created. Just because they did not originally exist makes them any less real? If I so choose they can control the body, then can be 'real'. They now have just as much right to exist as I do, they are beings of thought and consciousness. I would not being doing my duty as the one who as made them if I simply destroyed them. A voice among the many must merely shout loudest.
>>23099308omg fucking schizo chasers
>>23099322do you mind if i use you as a character in a campaign
>>23099322You are either completey insane, or so far in-character as a BBEG you can smell Orcus's ass from here.I think we as the human race can simply state as a body, that your other "personalities" are not true other intellects, but instead merely mad deviations of your own mind. They aren't autonomous yugioh-style second minds, they are you. Being crazy. With yourself. For AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAART?
>>23099279Thought, one only needs thought. The human mind is more powerful than any drug. You can do it, each of us can, the power is already within us and minds are ready to be born. Fledgling creatures pulled freely from nothingness. Being able to prune and mold a complete consciousness from the get go is quite the rush, if I do say so myself.Wouldn't it be beautiful if more could do this, retreat into their own minds and instead of failing in their strength, intelligence, and willpower have in themselves those who could do it for them. Personalities with the power that they do not. I honestly think it is a beautiful thing.
>>23099282So real life has a BBEG now? Right, where's the nearest tavern, I need to hire me some mother fucking HEROES.
>>23099375You're saying "My insanity is beautiful" but all I'm hearing is"Please mister Paladin, please kill me, I love being evil and advocating madness, Gods this armor makes me look fat."
>>23099375You sound like a BBEG. I can only assume the original lost the battle and mad-man is now at the helm.this could be a great twist if this is realized only late into the game.
i've actually considered making a tulpa of myself who's motivated and actually does things, but i know he'd eventually turn on me and murder me to become the dominant personality by playing off my belief that i would never kill me
>>23099395>One of the sympathetic minds in the head of the BBEG is against the evil going on in his head, and contacts the party>During its limited time at the forefront, begs the players to put an end to its imminent madness, and gives them a way to enter the mind of the BBEG>The players confront the personalities, all abstract and real, looking for the "true" one The players find the true personality locked away in a lost corner of the mind, scared and alone, afraid to confront the world and has its personalities do everything they can to protect it.
>>23099346Of course not, go ahead.... but why exactly do you want to?>>23099352Who knows, they might be, they might not. In all honesty at this point I do not care. I have created them, and even if they are not full people it does not mean I can try and and make them people.A person is only a legacy. The way I live my life, my happiness or emotions do not matter in the long run. How I have changed the world, the people I have changed, and the paths that I have walked. My goal is to be remembered, a hundred or thousand years from now; I wish to be remembered. Because all the people within me are at least born of me, it will be my name that is recorded. Even who is at the helm does not matter. I have evened the odds, instead of one against billion, it is now seven.Now doesn't that sound easier?
>>23099436No. You're using irrational aesthetic ideals to justify destroying your own mind. >And thats terrible.
>>23099436....guys....I'm being fucking serious right now when I say this guy scares the shit out of me. He is went full BBEG, and if he is faking this he sounds damned convincing. Real life has a BBEG... we are so fucked.
>>23099436You sound delightfully mental.You'll do good.
>>23099436have you ever asked yourself if you're currently you?maybe one of the personalities you made is posting right nowand it won't want to believe this, because it thinks it's you, it's you in every way, but it's not
>>23099447And what? My happiness and the state of my mind matter? Will people remember that I was broken a hundred years from now?No! They will remember the deeds, the battles fought, speeches given, things accomplished. We do not remember our heroes or villains as people, we remember them as ideas. You are a pile of your accomplishments and failures, nothing more.My mind is as sound as it every will be. Even if I see it destroyed, or it already has been, a new one will take its place. Strength is never forged without hardship.
>>23099322You still ain't told us HOW you did it, meditation, drugs, trauma, sheer determination?
I can already see the story with the guy not only fighting for inner control, but believing the personalities are so human that everyone that wants to cure him/eliminate them is a murderer.So really it was just self-defense when he-Aw man there's so much material here. And it all comes back to the sad lonely writer backstory. Genius.
>>23099475I do believe you. I am talking to them as we speak, clearly drawn lines in the sand separate us but bleed over is always possible.However, the point is... why does it matter? They are created of me, and me of them, so no matter which of us does it. It is still I who have been the one to create.
Meh he's faking it. I can tell from the hamminess and from seeing a lot of horrible pretenders in my time.
>>23099436>My goal is to be remembered, a hundred or thousand years from now; I wish to be remembered. "...My name is ozymandias, king of kings..."
>>23099504I don't fucking care if he is faking or not. This stuff is gold either way.
>>23099490Not him, but what mister BBEG is doing is called "tulplaforcing". It basically involves imagining an alternate mind while focusing really, really hard, over and over again for like a few weeks or months, eventually culminating in hallucinations and (Hopefully) insanity and schizophrenia.This, assuming that the technique actually works (Which I don't think it does, I think we're being trolled).>>23099485BBEG. So....so hard.
>>23099499Sounds like tumblr.
>>23099508Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair
>>23099516You have no idea what trolling is, do you?
>>23099522tumblr only CLAIMS to have a bunch of people in their heads to be specialthis guy actually did it and i gotta applaud him for that even if he's insane
>>23099490As I said it started as work to help my writing. Though, long hours of thought and keeping them inlace is what created it in the beginning. When you first start it is hard, but as you go on the entire process become automatous. As long as you do not switch it off it grows continuously until reaching a plateau. Drugs aren't needed, neither is trauma. Tools for the weak I say.
>>23099531Trolling is going on the internet, and doing things just to get a response, whether good or bad. It either means lying to get everyone go pity you, or lying to get everyone angry for no reason, or some other such thing.Trolling is going on the internet fishing for emotional responses.
>>23099549But I neither pity or am angry at this guy. So... what is he doing then?
>>23099537It worked too well for one of your characters is at the helm now and you can't even tell.
>>23099537I like your guts, mad or not.
>>23099388Craigslist. Or you can reach me via email. I do everything from rescues to sabotage. Murder and theft come with extra prices. I'm more of a TN guy, so we can make a fair, reasonable deal somewhere.
>>23099555Trying to get the responses like I'm giving>Nigga you crazy.Or like some others are giving>"Oh this is neat, how do?"He's probably just trying to get attention.
>>23099555It is fun to talk to him regardless though, is it not?Maybe he is having fun as well.
>>23099549Nobody asked you for a definition. And even if you are the same person as the one who claimed some random storytime guy was a troll then you just went and shot yourself in the foot.
>>23099504Believe what you will. Not as if it matters to me. Though I will say I enjoy the drama, an air of glamour around oneself. It helps as long as you can draw others in. People want to believe life is a show, something of an adventure that is just waiting to happen to them. As long as you make them believe that, even if for the smallest of moments, they will follow you.Those paths exist no longer in the world, at least not in any society on the planet worth mentioning. One must make the path for themselves, and it is a one man street. You can not bring others along with you, but merely show them glimpses, to try and force them to carve their own.
>>23099586He implied I didn't know what trolling was, so I defined it. And I'm not doubting this would make a good story. Just saying he's probably lying.
>>23099490Ok you responded my bad...I'm off to the limits of my mind and take a jump off the bed
ITT: One guy talking to himself without knowing it
>>23099610>so I defined itAnd made yourself look like an idiot since the definition you made meant he was not a troll.
>>23099597Would you consider yourself an idealist or a pragmatist?
>>23099614That would imply you are him too... and so am I.
>>23099614oh god how could I forget about this old twist.
>>230996144chan is only me and you. And you can't prove I exist.
>>23099614hey, mind prime, if i'm just a splinter can you make my life comfier?don't give me any of that "realism" shit, i'm tired of all this bullshit you put me through, there's no point to this
>>23099622Someone needs to cross out irony and insert hipster
My problem is similar>Love /tg/s and want to play them>Everyone's too fucking busy to meet and play>Can play alone but it's pretty sad and one-sided cause I always win anyway.Though I have to admit, pitting two of your armies against each other is useful for finding out tactics and it's fun to go full cheese with both armies.
>>23099619But it did. See>>23099581
>>23099647>hipstermore like special-snowflake syndrome.
>>23099622No human being can ever be purely one or the other. For some things I believe I an idealist, or at least reaching for goals that are idealistic in nature. On others I am pragmatic, knowing that which is beyond my limitations.The point is one must not have unrealistic ideas as to what they can do, wishing for something, an ideal, that is far beyond them. Instead they must create within themselves the means to do that which is beyond. I have done so, I have created these minds, and they have shown me that my dreams were too small. I can look for more now, horizons I never even glimpsed with my face pressed against the ground for so long.You can see it too, you need only look up.
>>23099664He seems to have more like the opposite. >>23099669 Because he thought he wasn't special enough he made people in his head who were... or something?I don't know, but this is amazing material for a BBEG in a modern campaign. Raise your hand if you're gonna steal this.
>>23099683I know I am, and I'm going on Craigslist to find some adventuring buddies to stop this fucker.
You've gone too far madman!
>>23099773You heard him though... he only wants to be remembered. Only...Remembered...So isn't us doing this only playing into his game?
Would it be possible to make an improved version of myself, let him take over and just dissappear myself? I've always wanted someone more worthy to take my place.
Id say write a novel but this thread is much more interesting
>>23098935I think I do this "tulpa" thing too. I've been able to have conversation out loud or in my thoughts with myself for something like 10 years now. It's not just me talking, as in I would be ranting to myself about a problem and then I just start talking differently, countering my own arguments and finding pros and cons and all sorts of details I missed. I give my own self peace of mind or different viewpoints.Also, I have this "council" of sorts. I've always treated them as mental manifestations of my own moods, emotions, ways of thought etc. Like for example I have a version of myself in full plate armour, the Knight, as my honest and good side. I have an undefined amount of these characters but it feels as if I can talk to them separately and all together at any time, like some weird forum in my head. Also, anytime I'm in a mood, I feel more and more as if I'm taking the respective character's being as myself. I feel as if I cease being Normal Anon and, when I wish to do pure good, I feel more like Knight Anon, far far different than normal me even in tastes, speech and train of thought.I don't visualize in real life nor have I ever heard voices though. Is this Tulpa shit?
>>23099789That's even worse than Mr.BBEG. At least he is going crazy in a productive direction.
>>23099789You can always take the shortcut and change yourself.
>>23099804Becoming a better man is not productive?>>23099811That's work. I'm too tired.
Ok, I don't know who Mr.BBEG is, but I have a question. Do you ever have hallucinations? Because I'm curious about them if you do.Are the people you see different from you, looks wise? Also are there in girls in there?
>>23099801I remember that Doug Funny episode where he consulted his inner council consisting of Doug Indy Jones, Quailman and a few others I think.
>>23099819More the creating a better man instead of just changing yourself. Making a person seems like it would be difficult as fuck.
>>23099829Well at least it's comforting that Doug took the piss out of my thing. I love Doug, man.Also, I think this is why people tell me i'm a good actor. They always say shit like "your take is very believable" "It's as if you actually are that character" etc etcJoke's on them that I'm probablyfucking insane
>>23099824Yes I do, those with me walk beside me. They are me, but they must have a presence themselves within the world. It is easier to speak to them if I can see them, is it not? Though it is just as easy to put these others away, of course it has been getting harder lately, but that is to be expected.Sometimes they pop out when they shouldn't, coming out to see what I am and what not. It's rather annoying if I am to be perfectly honest. They disagree of course, especially Maria.Yes, there are three females, and three males besides myself. I decided it would be better to have an even split, perspectives and what not. Yes they look different than me, in the beginning I created what they look like, but as they gaining an automatous realm of thought they built themselves. Most have a constant form, one that is who they are. One does not, he prefers change and trying new bodies. I am unsure if I want to go into more details however. Even the name, Maria, is dangerous.
>>23099875Even if you are, you're presumably adequately functional in human society and getting added benefit out of it.Seems like a good deal to me.
I'm getting a comedity vibe from this thread. if anyone even remembers that shitty comic.
>>23099920Thanks for contributing Senator McNutsack.
>>23099930It isn't exactly the most serious of threads, is it?
>>23099891True enough yes. It's pretty fun, if weird even to me sometimes.Though if I start seeing people and hearing voices then i'm getting myself checked asap.
>>23099949then better not turn around right now, Dan.
>>23099945No, but I liked the whole BBEG vibe the guy was giving off. The fucker seemed perfect to add into a game.I mean come on; a lonely writer who broke his own mind for his art, and then went down the path of world domination.The glamour shit, the "I will be remembered", stuff about the one vs billions to seven, the belief people are just a pile of deeds. It's all perfect for a bad guy. Honestly if the few posts here he wrote a better villain than I have ever been able to.
>>23099959Dan? Nobody's named Dan. Fucking kill yourself.
>>23099949Don't, take the plunge. Go into the world you are on the presuppose of, take the power for yourself. How else will you know what you are capable of?Fear is the poison of great men. Don't drink of the cup willingly.
>>23099972Then ask him questions and get more out of him. I asked him 3 and got gold. I had my fill and I am now lurking/dicking around.
>>23099986but you are, danand so am iand so are wewe are dan you are dan i am dan dan is dan dan is all
>>23099801Talking to yourself, no matter how you think about it, is a great way to wrap your mind around new things. You can analyse things with ease, reach new insight and improve on your thinking by doing this.But please don't kid yourself by thinking you're talking to anyone but yourself.
>>23099972It's as they say, real life writes the best stories.Well in Germany they do anyway.>>23100002But then who was boobies?
>>23099998I can't think of any good questions... You do it.I don't know what else I wanna know.
>>23100008It is also incredibly common for people to talk to themselves.
>>23099959There's nothing there. There is only me. Maybe that's my curse, y'know? I've always been a loner type. I have so many sides to my personality, inner beings and all but in the end... I'm all alone.Except i'm not really, i'm a handsome and sociable motherfucker
>>23100013>old as hell facepunch joke
>>23098241>Dislike people too much to be able to enjoy the group activityThere's your problem, anon.Also, people who dislike just about everyone else tend to be massively huge assholes. Chances are you are actually one.Note how I'm not saying "tend to be seen as", but "tend to be".
>>23099995But how do I do that? Is it actually possible to be conscious of such things and will them to reality? I'm talking genuine psychology and mental health shit here, not fucking "FOCUS YOUR CHAKRA AND IT SHALL BE DONE" shit.
I think I might have made one of those tulpa thingies or something by accident. Ever since I was young, I've been pretty much unable to get mad, no matter the circumstance. If someone picked on me, bad mouthed me, knocked a drink out my hand etc etc, I would respond with a smile and a it's okay, I don't mind. That was the case until I was about 20 years old. I was out having fun in town with a couple of friends when some guy bumped into me and said "watch were you're going" and knocked my drink out my hand. I could literally feel myself sinking into the back of my mind as I watched what unfolded. I felt a sensation of floating as I watched through my own eyes without any power over my own body. Long story short, I had beaten him until he passed out, then I broke both his legs by jumping on them, and for some reason I found a small sharp rock nearby and carved a smiley face on his cheek.I'm now 25 and I haven't had incidents like that again. Whenever I get that fleeting sensation of someone else taking over, I just keep it back whatever it is.I might just be fucked up in the head, but who knows!
>>23100014Alright.Hey cracked-mind/BBEG if you are still here riddle me this; You said earlier that tools are for the weak. Is this mindset not a weakness of itself? The weak may use tools to compensate, but if I gave a 100% is it not a strength to use a tool to reach 110%?
>>23100042Of course it is. I did it after all. I am special in no way, merely a man who has seen the light. The light is beautiful, and I find it illuminated many more things to be discovered. Come on, it would be better if I was not the only one to experience these things. To never be alone, to have comrades to walk along the same path, to fall back into your own head and find arms ready to embrace and support you. Comrades, friends, a world within yourself ripe for plunder. Don't you want to find it, take the journey?If not you will only go back to a life, a life of pain and monotony. Is that really what you wish for? The same thing day in and day out, going to work, coming home, eating, sleeping, shitting, fucking... Nothing beyond such simple things. Sixty years on the rat race, trying to stave of death. Telling yourself it is never safe to do those things, or that it is merely not the time. No! Come to a new world. It is a leap of fate, but be strong. You are not the first to carve this path, and with each one it becomes a little wider. Pave the way for those to come, as I have.Create a new world, with me.
>>23100042>>23100106This is how I imagine cults are started.
>>23100124I'd join, seems like a fucking cool cult.
i would consider doing this just to have people to play tabletop games with, but i don't think my family would approve
>>23100136Introducing them to the new girlfriend must be a whole new level of spaghetti.
>>23099435They then realize that they can not get out, and must accept that either he somehow trapped them in his mind or from the beginning they were also thoughtforms that BBEG made to make himself confront the reality of who he is...
>>23099435>>23100151I like this so much i'm going to write a movie concept about it and present it to my media company.
>>23100073I see your point, and counter with something very simply. I don't care. Rules set for myself, guard rails and regulations, things that can and must not be done to preserve the integrity of my own accomplishments. Those thins, tools of outside the body, if I am to do them than my legacy will be spoiled. My own state of mind does not matter, but my deeds and how they were done do. I carved a path to a new world, a better world, with my own cracking. If I was to do it with drugs, such sickly humors, or trauma. Some artificial tool to crack what is within me... that wouldn't make it my history destroyed!My remembrance would fade, the world would see and scoff at my accomplishments.My path much be forged with me and that which is within me. My friends, those who I have created for these duties. The seven of us shall see this through to the end, and you will hear my name ring for ever more.
>>23100189Dude, BBEG should be on the writing team. He said he was a writer didn't he?
>>23100014>>23100073>>23100197See? Fucking gold.any monikers from the thread you prefer for the sake of easy address?Counter-Counter-Point, We only make progress by standing on the shoulders of giants. To forsake tools and advances is a fool's game. If you care about legacy, then you must realize no one will care if you rediscover fire?
>>23100210And by meeting new people and becoming successful in general, the writer doesn't have to be lonely anymore and his personalities can disappear without a worry.The End.
>>23100264>and by accumulating wealth and power he forms a cult of personality and begins his world takeover.
>>23100249Giant must be torn down. Their shoulders are high, but their shadows are longer. Why would I try to balance on their shoulders when I could be the cornerstone for a tower anew?
>>23100273Shhh that's the sequel. I want people to stay after the credits for the cliffhanger.
>>23100273He succeeds and a new civilization is born where people shatter their minds and use all the personalities as fall backs for their shortcomings.
>>23100295this sounds like one of those "terrifying utopia" things, like demolition man
>>23100303This movie keeps sounding better and better. Each squeal would switch genre... representing another personality within the main characters head. What about the love story between him and one of the people in his own head?There could be a really intense romantic scene, between him and a hallucinations. Then suddenly the scene cuts and the guy is just sitting alone in a room in the dark, his food at the table eaten, but the other just sitting cold and the cable just having gone out.
Honestly, in regards to the multiple personalities / tulpas / thoughtforms / what have you, I think it sounds like a really interesting and personal experiment. Every distinct personality you create is a chance to step outside the box of your common currents of thought and get fresh perspectives on nearly anything you experience, while simultaneously giving you the guarantee that all observable data is 100% in sync between all 'witnesses' to said data. You would have to work pretty hard to get the process down; devote your entire focus to conversations between the 'characters,' entirely internal, so that you can shape and define the different perspectives, and also normalizing the process of holding multiple lines of thought via 'conversation.'I think I am just interested enough to try this myself. Like, not just passing interest, but hardcore devotion, at least until I can determine if there will be substantial results.
>>23100283You have been amusing cracked-mind, but I am done with my questions. Others please I encourage you to continue with questions. if only because he is so unique.
>>23100326The end twist is that he's in a coma and all throughout the movie/s, there would be loads of hidden signs. Like he has the inability to remember much from "last night", like a running gag. People assume he's just drunk cause shit, there he is with a beer in his hand! but nobody realizes it's actually because his brain is slowly dying.
>>23100326>There could be a really intense romantic sceneTHE most romantic masturbation scene in existence.
>>23100326*candle, not cabal. I can't fucking sleep.>>23100365Wasn't thinking he'd jack off. Probably would do that after the hallucination broke and he's just sitting alone.>>23100356We need to write the script to this move. Mr.BBEG, wanna help?
>>23100356but then it wouldn't be nearly as gripping because "pff things are kinda weird in a dream, whodafunk". I dunno, just seems like putting an unnecessary layer between the audience and what's happening.But the man himself, being a writer and everything, will probably know best.
>>23099485>will people remember that I was brokenYes. You will be more popular with psychologists if you make it big than with the artistic world.Also I think you're full of shit.
Interesting thread...I have been thinking about going down this route more lately myself.I have noticed the ability to entertain myself and be happy, playing with my own mind. I don't have distinct personalities, I am just able to outrace my own thoughts. To have my subconscious mind outpace my conscious and be standing there ready with the answer.I have been a bit hesitant to dive into it fully, to allow myself the luxury of not finishing my thoughts, of being able to go down ALL of the tangents simultaneously instead of thinking linearly.And you are right I am so much more creative when I don't force myself to think in this framework of normal linear logic.
>>23100373I think he meant it's masturbation because that personality you're flirting with is technically still a part of yourself.
>>23099730That's not what I meant.I mean he meant.
>>23100381Anything can be done if done well. It can't be overemphasized or too scattered.
>>23100393Ah, the movie though, it would be so good.
>>23100384The only alternate personality I allow into my mind is the idea of the sublime.When the random events around me come together in such a beautiful way that I see beauty that I could never have conceived of before.Like a familiar voice that shares that unspoken silence when nothing needs to be said and everything is perfectly understood, like between old friends.
>>23100384eh, that sounds like a simple oddity to me. Like me sometimes thinking I can look into the next few future seconds when I'm having something akin to deja vu.Then one day I wasn't stunned by the effect anymore and did something contradicting prediction, and lo and behold the world stopped being in line with it as well.
>>23100393So what happens when you rape another one of your personalities?
>>23100384I said to the other man come with me on my journey. We need others like me, others who seek a legacy. Come with me friend. Though our bodies may die and decay, and those within us will fade with our bodies, the legacy shall stay forevermore. To bring something that has been stereotyped, wouldn't you like to see how deep the rabbit hole goes?
>>23100435You can rape yourself. Ever been jacking off, then something breaks the mood, but continue because you feel like you need to.
>>23100423And then I try to be a nice guy and talk to people like equals instead of manipulating them, because I can see what they need, what they want, what will make them happy...So far people have not been very appreciative of that, it seems like they prefer to be manipulated, controlled, have their thoughts guided. As long as I can keep things novel and entertaining and show them truths that they have never seen before they are willing to have me lead.I guess its not rape if they ask for it right?
>Read this thread and learn about tulpas>Google it and find communities of people who make the fucking thingsI find this to be an extremely disturbing concept.
>>23100401Or actually the coma twist is too overused when you think about it. Less creative. How about the "go into mind bbeg's mind" thing and finding out the real BBEG personality trapped and scared is a mere child unable to cope with the loss of a parent, sibling or beloved pet?Basically, the child creates an entire alternate dimension in his head where he is every person populating it, each character a separate fragment of his psyche. They could be named after things relevant to his life and the audience would just consider them nicknames, especially if the movie has a modern setting with a gang of good-hearted street gangstaz or something fighting some corporate bigshot or whatever. the good guys AND the bad guys and everyone in between are aspects of the child's mind.In the end, he breaks himself out of it. Could have a positive message about depression or mental illness, in that you should never give up trying to help yourself but also accepting help and being a good person in general to those who need it. A somewhat deep movie that hardcore moviegoers and families can enjoy.Could also work as a videogame, with multiple endings. good guys win, kid becomes normal again. Bad guys win, kid gets locked up in a mental asylum all his life or becomes some ultraviolent sickfuck. The guy down the street who owns the cornerstore and doesn't give a fuck ends up on top and kid becomes a wanderer, travelling the earth and sampling all of life's guilty pleasures etc.
>>23100455I suffer from body dysphoria, and my body sometimes has 'needs' that my mind really doesnt want to do.And it's like raping myself.I used to feel really sick after masturbating. Therapy has helped reduce it.
>>23100470You merely don't see the world as it should be, you see it as it is. Those without vision, who have their eyes firmly planted on the ground, shall fall away as time moves on. No legacy, nothing to prove you ever existed.You might as well not have existed at all.
>>23100475I like the lonely writer idea better that evolves with him going from protagonist to villain by the end of the series. I think it would be an amazing series of movies.
>>23100427I am not saying that I can predict the future, just think through problems in my subconscious.I will assume that I know the answer, bullshit out some answer, and as I am thinking about the false answer I see where the flaw in the logic is and what is the actual answer as if I really had known it all along.
Mr.BBEG... what is your name? Just the first, the last does matter.I'm curious. Names mean a lot, and if it's something cool then you probably are gonna go full RL BBEG.
>>23100509me too. It makes things that bit more relatable.
I'm planning on running a oneshot in a few weeks and now I want to do this:>>23099435>>23100151So what kind of encounters could I run in a madman's subconscious? I was thinking maybe some Akira-style kids with telekinesis making golems out of toys.
>>23100520I like "crackedmind" that another poster came up with personally.
>>23100444You convinced me, I think it is time I realized that I have left the lip of the precipice long ago and might as well see what this flying thing can do for me...
>>23100530It could have his own split personalities eventually leave him, seeing what he has become and deciding it would better to disappear. The main character desperately tries to force them to stay, but can't. This could happen to the personality he is romantically involved with (the one from the romantic scene).I NEED THIS NOW /TG/
>>23100520I am Alexander, you may call me Alexander Crackedmind if you want to refer to me as something beyond my first name.
ITT: the Dear Esther 2 script.
So crackedmind how open are you about your mental passengers with friends/family?I assume you don't put "I have 7 minds within me" on job applications but is there anyone who knows you personally who know? What about wife/gf issues. Can you imagine caring about somebody so deeply that you let them into the inner workings of your mind? And if so how would you feel about them changing one of your imagined personalities?
Stop being an asshole. It's just that easy.
>>23100634Why would I tell anyone else? I realize most would not understand such things, and most would scorn me as some kind of monster or seek my admittance to a mental institution. Companions like wives and girlfriends, distractions from a goal. I can not imagine it because it will not happen. My family would be the only ones I would even consider it for, and only do I not to let them have an ease of mind. No one can change the personalities, they are mine and mine alone. The world within my head is a kingdom. The only ones who allowed entrances are those already within.
>>23100651Speaking of which, how's the pursuit of your goal coming along?
The fact that crackedmind is an author and is doing this for his art is what makes this ok in my mind.I have heard about blind deaf mute children who don't really need anything, they are happy and content to just rock back and forth in their beds...I am not sure that I would be thrilled about shutting myself up in my mind if it did not allow new ways to see and interact with the world and others in it.
>>23100651Not true, we fool ourselves into thinking that our wills are ours alone, but every conversation is proof that we are capable of being influenced, seeing ideas that we have never conceived of before.Your work seeks to leave that lasting mark on others, why would you deny that others can likewise change and shape you.
Are you discussing the contents of this thread with your council of 6?How much are they contributing to what you write?Also are they as dedicated to your goals as you are?
>>23100735Of course I am, and they are contributing in a meaningful matter, but at the moment it my time to be in control of all of this. We take turns making decisions and generally vote on certain things. I of course have veto power, but I do not abuse it.Most of them are, but they very in degrees. I am the most focused.>>23100684I am not shut in here, you assume I am locked away from the world and fear it. No, I merely have more power now beside me and those to support me. I am not locked in there with them, it is you all, those out in the world, are stuck in this world with me.I wish you luck on that. >>23100709Because how I am to be greater than they, have works far more reaching, than to put myself on something greater and beyond influence.
>>23100864>Dude has this all figured outSomebody archive this thread incase he pulls this off - I know that I will be on the lookout for authors/world tyrants named Alexander from now on.
>>23099245Oh shit, is that Kopek's album cover? Great band. I went drinking with them after a show once, such chill guys.
>>23101064It's 'Bombhead' by Bruce Conner
>>23100864Surely if you want to be remembered for eternity you would not bother with being a writer.You would be better off being a business man making oodles of money. Pump that money into space exploration, first a colony on the moon or even a space ship people could actually live on indefinately. Because otherwise the narcissitic desire to be remembered ends with the English language or the earth itself. Plus you coud name the colony/ship etc, alexandria .. heh Also enjoy being completely mis-represented should history ever take note of you.
>>23101099I do not write for fame, I write because it brings me joy. Fame comes elsewhere.
bump for great justice.
>>Dislike people too much to be able to enjoy the group activityPlay online, don't be a faggot since you probably are some edgy misanthropist.
90% of these posts are the same person. I can tell by the grammar and seeing a lot of dissociative personality disorders in my time.
>>23102126Shut up, me. I don't have any real experience in such matters.
Well, this thread was certainly an interesting read. I don't much into tulpafaggotry because /x/ and /mlp/ aren't really my thing, but I'm fairly certain I've got the bug. My favorite story is "His Dark Materials" by Pullman. I stumbled upon it during elementary school and it started me on two kicks: many-worlds and the seperation between mind, body, and soul. I was fascinated by these things. I couldn't stop thinking about all the parallel universes right on top of ours, and below, that could differ from as much as someone getting up a few seconds layer to the dinosaurs never became extinct and beyond. I also loved the idea that a portion of what made up 'me' was 'other', but still me. My soul could be me, but a different me than the one I was used to. I thought about it, like how sometimes you might suddenly feel something...a gut instinct. Intuition or whatever. But since I wasn't in a world like Lyra's, I couldn't see it. So I set myself to imagining it. Now, I wasn't a lonely child. I've never really been lonely. I'm good with friends. I just wanted to see if I could visualize whatever was there. And sure enough, I could. Whenever I wanted I could look over and there would be the other half of me. I could communicate with her. We decided on a name. Of course there was the whole shapeshifting animal thing, and looking back, it feels kinda furry, but that changed after a few years. I refined my view of her after discovering more things that had similar characteristics. Kingdom Hearts was a big one (them delicious many-worlds) and, god rest my young self, Bleach. She went from amorphous, mood-based animal shape to settling on a large cat, and then into an actual young girl that has grown up with me thus far. As I grew up, though, I realized that this was crazy. I was stuck in a kind of 'permanent imaginary friend, wat do?' state. Still kinda am, I guess. But it's better because I came to an understanding with myself. [Cont'd, field too long]
>>23102703If I'm crazy, I know I'm crazy, and can keep myself in check. It's pretty much just like normal. I think something crazy and just don't do it. It just happens to be that I'm probably crazy while doing that. It also expresses itself in a way I find hilarious.Anyway, skip ahead to present day and my current fascination with String Theory and multiple dimensions, and now I think 'what if she's me, but quantum-entangled through the sixth dimension from an alternate reality or something?' alongside of 'I'm probably crazy.'That's just how it's been for me. Now I job, an apartment, a real cat, good friends to /tg/ with, and a rather fun but somewhat sarcastic conversation partner in my head.I really have no idea how someone like Mr. Crackminded can deal with six of them, though. And the people that try to make imaginary pony friends creep me out.
Just saying, good luck with your personalities, it can be a pain sometimes. I mean, how can you explain you're laughing to yourself to someone else because you have your other you finding a new (unrelated) joke?
>>23102806Just tell them "I thought of something funny"?
>>23102823That's where the "unrelated" part come into play. people don't understand how can you be focused on a Super Smash game and at the same time thinking something funny about religion (not a litteral exemple, but you get my point)
>>23102853Happens to one of my friends all the time.>busily digging a trench>friends bursts out laughing>"What's up?">"Oh, nothing. Just thinking about the pope."In his defense, Pope Palpatine is pretty funny looking.
This seems like the thread for it>want to do an tabletop rpg>have best friend who I play mtg with>have gf who enjoys videya and animeBoth seem like it would be an easy segway into tabletop rpgs, but neither are having any of it. Anyone have a story or suggestions on getting people who are hesitant about trying it to play and them enjoying it?
>>23102126You didn't know? /tg/ is just one person arguing with himself constantly. Though I'm not sure how facets of his mind can know this and not destabilize the whole thing...
>>23098241And to think, the last time I posted this it was mocked as inaccurate.
>>23098241Isn't there that DM software for when you don't have a DM or you're a DM and don't have players? I can't put my finger on the name, but I've seen it on here before.
>>23102952... Neverwinter Nights 2?
>>23100864Woop, Making a Npc for my supers campaign that actually has fully-fledged personas living in his super-powered mind. Depending on the one "In charge", his powers manifest in different ways.
>This threadYou know guys, I was THIS CLOSE to forgetting where I was, I was so close to thinking you guys were by and large average people who just enjoy a fairly niche hobby.But of course this thread ruined that.
>>23102952Mythic GM emulator, it's on /rs/
>>23102977Your mistake is thinking that average people aren't crazy too. You think because you look around you and see everyone acting what you perceive as normal that it's the truth.Something like one out of four people around you also has an exceptionally painful laceration on their anus. Just because they're not screaming and gushing blood out the back of their pants doesn't mean the anal fissure's not there.
>>23098469>>23098551>>23098711This reminds me of the story about the lich who was locked in a room for centuries, and entertained himself by imagining up an adventurer.As I recall, they had a falling out because he decided to retire when he was supposed to be hunting for the crown of red wyrms and settled down with some elvish slut, but the lich still made toys for their daughter, because even half-elves deserve nice things now and then.There was a lot of other stuff. Anybody have a cap?
>>23103004>Something like one out of four people around you also has an exceptionally painful laceration on their anusSure.
I think I've seen something like this before...
>>23103064The only way to know for sure is to pull down everyone's pants and take a look.
>>23103004>I'm batshit, so everyone else must be batshit.No.
>>23103120He's just saying that most people don't openly showcase their weirdnesses, making them all look normal as a result.No need to incur the wrath of hyperbole.
>>23103120>way too defensive, balderdash implicationsScaredy-cat.
>>23103120I never said "batshit". You seem defensive.
>>23103064Anal fissures aren't uncommon. Ask a proctologist.
>>23103120This equates to a worse denial of reality than the tulpatoters.There are people that are crazy, just like someone you shake hands with honestly may have fapped not even 5 minutes ago, or may be casually thinking about what it'd be like to gouge out your eyeball.We don't talk about these things in person because it's weird, because it's not politically correct, and because we're scared of each other.Shh... Shh... It'll all be over soon... Oh, it's not time for that yet...
>>23103205>This equates to a worse denial of reality than the tulpatoters.Although I agree the guy's being silly, I think it's even more silly to try and say his opinion is weirder than the guys that *literally try to induce schizophrenia just so they have people to play with.*
>>23103205Sometimes I think about biting people.It's not that I WANT to bite them or anything like that, I just occasionally look at them and think "Wonder what it would be like to bite them on the face?"It's not like I sit there staring at their face gnashing my teeth or anything. You'd neeeever know I'm thinking about biting your lip or whatever, if you meet me.
>>23103219I don't think they're all like that. Who says someone with a tulpa can't have real friends?
>>23103241The question is could they tell the difference.
>>23103231This train of discussion brings a certain image to mind
>>23103250The better question: With a good enough of a tulpa, would it matter?
How do you define insanity? Are people like this insane?
>>23103264From a fictional standpoint, I suppose not, it could likely manifest or somesuch.In the real world, no, your friends might have difficulty accepting that you want to invite Mr. Bimble who lives inside your finger to the game. Either that or they'll get a little freaked out when the fistfight enthusiast you turn into wants to destroy the modern world and go back to living in his own shit and wearing bloody animal skins because it's more "manly".
>>23100303>> He doesn't know what the three clamshells are for>>laughingsanangelesians.gif
>>23103250Would you listen? Would it matter if they brought their friends, lined them up, and pointed at them, labelling them as 'real', and then pointed at a patch of empty space and called it 'imaginary'?
>>23103260>peanut butter and bacon sandwichesThe King had good taste. Weird, but good.He had a shit manager though. Why would you ever turn down playing at the white house?
>>23103300Seashells. Do you even Stallone?
>>23103303His manager was, by most accounts, a strange guy but very decent to work for/with. At one point he apparently paid the guy who was doing all the grunt work on one of Elvis' early tours much, much, much more than had been originally agreed upon, simply because the dude had been working hard and he thought it was fair.Guy said Elvis' manager took him to a back room with a couple of guys (scared the shit out of him), then dumped all the money they'd made on the tour, in cash, onto the table. Then he slammed his cane down in the middle of the table and swept half the cash to one side and half of it to the other, pointed to one of the stacks, and said "That's yours."
>>23103330He also turned down playing for the president because, quote, "Elvis doesn't play for free."
>>23103309Why? Both of them are insane. It doesn't matter if one can tell the difference.
>>23103352So? Why does the President get free shit?
>>23103352>>23103330What a badass
>>23103267I know I'm insane. Didn't read trough the whole thread, but I get the twist of things. Granted,my insanity isn't from tulpas.
>>23103389I can't be the only one that every time I see that word thinks we're talking about tulips.Then my next thought is we're talking about horses because of this series of urban fantasy books I read.
>>23103389How can you know you're insane? Wouldn't it just seem normal?
>>23103400>"Insanity from tulips" There's a good name for something.
>>23103415When I get back to my game I'm going to have my players run into Insanity Tulips.
God, I decide to try out the tulpa thing after being weirded out by those guys on /mlp/, and now it's on /tg/.When will it end?
I've had a tulpa since I was very young. I experienced something really traumatizing in my early childhood to the point that the memory is completely repressed. But since that point, I've had two personalities in me, basically. I'm in love with her.
>>23103465I'm not sure which you're a new and disturbing variety of... Forever Alone or That Guy.
>>23103502I've never really considered myself to be alone, and it's not like I actually tell people in real life I have a tulpa. I'm just emotionally incapable of loving anyone but my tulpa.
>>23103412Just realized it last year. Everything was normal to me before, then I realized something was wrong.Here's a picture of my insanity that I've lately come to like. I heard some time ago about a concept of time that some african tribe had. They imagined that time flows from behind them to their front.Why? Because they can "see" to the past. Remember. Future cannot be seen, so it comes from behind. My insanity has a definite form in this picture. "He" stands 3 years in the past. As I move backwards and thus create new memories, he too walks forward.Beyond him, I cannot see. I have only memories from the past 3 years or so. I never really thought it as strange, since I knew that I must have had a childhood because I'm now an adult. I just couldn't remember it. I didn't think much about it.Then, I got into a fight with my father. He had asked what my age is and I'd answered with "I don't remember." He thought I was kidding and just being an ass. After a while, he started talking about my childhood and how he had taken care of our family and asked why doesn't that memory mean nothing to me.I tried to remember and collapsed in a panic attack.If I try to see past that "man" that's walking after me, I get hit with a massive wave of despair and literally drop on the spot from the pain.Now I'm trying to find out why I can't remember.
>>23103524That Guy, then? Falling in love with a tulpa sounds just as bad as the people that take that waifu stuff seriously. It isn't real, anon. You can have a realtionship with it. But not like that.
>>23103544AND IN TODAY'S EPISODE OF "REAL LIFE PCs ON /tg/"
>>23103575I don't know what to tell you, anon.I've known my tulpa for essentially my entire memory. I can't exactly brush off these feelings. What's the point of being normal for the sake of being normal if it just makes me unhappy?
>>23103607Because it's the only way to stop the horrors eroding your mind.
>>23103607Don't listen to that normalfag Anon. It's not his fault, it's just how he was raised. If a little splintered part of your broken mind makes you happy, then by god you find a way to put your dick in it and build a life together. To do anything less would be UNMANLY
>>23103607SANITY IS FOR THE WEAK!
>>23103607You can't look at it like that. It's not "normal for the sake of being normal", it's "being sane for the sake of being happy in other ways".I mean I guess there's nothing objectively wrong about having a relationship with an aspect of your own psyche and forsaking other relationships to do so, but you have to consider whether you're doing that because it makes you happy and fulfilled or if it's just easier for you than looking outward would be. (Sort of like all the Japanese incest and pseudo-incest stuff... being romantically involved with someone who you've known your entire life and whose love is assured is less emotionally risky and rocky than developing a relationship with someone new that you'd have to get to know.)You have to consider whether you're keeping your "tulpa" and centering your emotions around, um, her just because you feel you won't get hurt that way and because you don't have to be challenged that way. If it is, then it's not healthy... not because it's"not normal", but because it's an unhealthy relationship.
>>23103544Sounds like repressed memories, the problem with trying to remember too hard is that your brain will paint in the details.If you can deal with the pain, really make yourself be able to accept no matter what actually happened, it will make remembering easier.Since you are on /tg/ try role-playing trough it by writing different fictional stories about your past, in which nothing contradicts what you know about your life. Sometimes making up a lie that you admit to yourself is not true will force your subconsciousness to remember.
>>23103607Is it real happiness if you are merely ignoring the unhappiness reality brings you? Is it not like giving up, since you would rather a construct of your mind than carve it out of the life you have?
>>23103599>>23103603Well, the picture has given me a bunch of nightmares too, It's where I originally got it when I first heard the "time flows from behind you when you move backwards and see to the past, which is in front of you" thing. I tried once to just fight trough the panic attack and try to remember something. I got almost a week worth of nightmares where he suddenly stands still and lets me have my memories back. Few moments of happiness and childhood memories, then he takes a step. He starts running after me, while I try to run backwards away from him. Then I wake up because fuck this fucking fuck.
>>23103650> being romantically involved with someone who you've known your entire life and whose love is assured is less emotionally riskyUh, I don't know how new you are to the idea of incest, but taking it to that level is actually pretty fucking riskyAlthough that tends to get skimmed over in your typical eroge so your point remains somewhat valid
>>23103653But what is reality if not our mind's interpretation of it?
>>23103652The guy running after me, destroying everything and me remembering something I wish I didn't are really the two things that make this whole situation so fucking fantastic.Medication and therapy for now. Not gonna even try to fight trough the pain again. At least any time soon.
>>23103653>Implying your reality is any more real than his
>>23103607Well maybe she is ok with 3 somes, you should have a heart to heart with yourself.I mean she can't be jealous of the real girl since she will always share something with you that is impossible to duplicate.And maybe she could "inhabit" the other person and teach her (through some hints on your part) how to get you to fall in love with her.
>>23103709I think that person would have to be the most open-minded woman in existance
>>23103691Yeah, it's the fantasy of it that's important to showing the mindset, not the actuality.
>>23103731In fairness, most women aren't in her unique position
>>23103653I've never really been unhappy though, I love life, in fact. I've always been with my tulpa, from as far back as I can remember. She's as real of a part of this world as I am as far as I'm concerned. I don't even know what it's like to not be with her, not do I have any reason to get rid of part of my and my happiness because it isn't socially acceptable. I don't see what's so inherently wrong about love when it doesn't fall into your restraints.>>23103650I'm not forsaking any relationships. I have a healthy social life. I just don't have romantic interest in any but my tulpa because I'm simply just not attracted to them.Why does a relationship need risk in order to be considered legitimate?Why do you assume I'm taking the easy way out?
>>23103675I had a dreamIn this dream a person was walking towards me that looked so familiar I could weep...He said to me "Friend, I have known you for an eternity, but the more that you come to understand me the more I will forget you." And at that moment I understood that this was a good friend of mine that was living backwards in time, and in the future, many years from now, I would come up to him and say:"Friend, I have known you for an eternity, but the more that you come to understand me the more I will forget you."
>>23103703>>23103708Reality is not subjective, goddammit, stop it. You sound like idiots who got ridiculously stoned and watched Ghost In The Shell too much.
>>23103751>Why do you assume I'm taking the easy way out?Because you shy from the idea of emotionally risking yourself like a horse shies from fire.A relationship requires risk to be legitimate because that's the only way it occurs between human beings. Conflict and the risk of conflict is how we grow as people, even with those we love. It's differences and resolving those differences that allow us to develop and grow closer.You're afraid of that.
>>23103756Fact: Reality can only be determined by the senses available to those who experience itFact: Those senses can be adjusted, malfunctioned, manipulated, and toyed withResult: Reality is subjectiveBrain in a vat. Deal with it, nerd
>>23103782Well, you said so, so it must be true.
>>23103756Views of reality are subjective, though. Even if reality itself follows rules and isn't.
>>23098241Tunnels and Trolls (which is a system with more d6s than you can shake a stick at) has these play by book solo campaigns from the 80s that you can find online.
>>23103709Think about it from my perspective,Since childhood, you've had a friend. Your friend has always been with. Words have always been unnecessary between you. You always know what the other needs. Regardless of the situation, your friend has stuck by you. Regardless of the situation, there's always a warming mental embrace when you need it. This friend was always the perfect medium to bounce your ideas off, and you served the same purpose for that friend. You would always each offer each other new insight into things.I'm just satisfied. I have everything I could want. Why would I try to form a relationship with a woman I couldn't truly love and just end up hurting her?Why should I abandon a life long friend?
>>23103788Even if you're a brain in a vat being fed electric signals, that does not make the world you perceive due to those electrical signals real. It just makes it a very convincing falsehood.If your brain is damaged to perceive white things as black, it does not mean that reality has become subjective and white is actually black. You're just wrong about how you see things.Existence does not center around you. Deal with it, idiot.
>This thread>This glorious fucking thread.SO. MUCH. MATERIAL.
>>23103805>Views of reality are subjective, though.That just means some people are wrong.
>>23103782But would he be any more normal if he, for your sake put on a show and started a relationship with a person he does not feel drawn to under what amounts to a false pretense.My last GF broke up with me because however wonderful our relationship was she was feeling like the replacement rabbit. And I admit that I still vividly dream about my first love who lives on a different continent and with whom I have not spoken in years.I agreed with my GF's assessment and am dealing with my issues right now.How would it be any different for the poster up above - any girl would be trying to fill in for the imaginary girl he is in love with.
>>23103819>Even if you're a brain in a vat being fed electric signals, that does not make the world you perceive due to those electrical signals real. It just makes it a very convincing falsehoodRight. So, who's the one who can tell the difference? You? A brain in a vat *next* to you?>If your brain is damaged to perceive white things as black, it does not mean that reality has become subjective and white is actually black. You're just wrong about how you see things.And yet if everyone's brain was "damaged," it would be accepted as normal and ordinary. Your "correct" interpretation would be considered absurd and demonstrably wrong by anyone with their "damaged" brainGET OWND FAGET
>>23103782But I DO have friendships with people and a social life.Why must a relationship with a woman be the end all be all of my life? Why should I hurt some innocent woman out there that I don't really love in order to fit your definition of healthy and normal?
>>23103832Yes, and?That just means that some people live false lives. Piling their hopes on dreams and nothingness, trying to attain things that are not possible. Place for their soul, happiness to all, destruction democracy etc. And they will all claim to be right. Even if they aren't. How is this news to anyone?
Eh, my main (and only) personality still isn't and doesn't feel any real - and people are lucky enough to have multiple of them. Screw you./x/-lite, I don't even need other boards any more.
>>23103809So does their MSPE game. And CoC. And Dark Eye.
>>23103856>for your sakeSee, this is the defensive stuff here, the people that say I think he should have a healthy mental life "for my sake". That having a healthy mental life is just something you do to fit in, to make everyone else comfy, instead of it actually, y'know... being healthy for its own reasons.I mean, you can moon over your first girlfriend for your whole life, no skin off my nose. It doesn't actually bother me because it doesn't affect me any way. But the fact that I ultimately don't care won't make dwelling on it any healthier for you.
>>23103859>So, who's the one who can tell the difference?Reality.>And yet if everyone's brain was "damaged," it would be accepted as normal and ordinary.But still wrong.
>>23098241>not embracing the group of stinky neckbeards and becoming their leader>not becoming their goblin king, standing apart with clear fashion sense, hygiene, intellect, and social skills.ya blew it OP. you could have what I have. you could lead them, improve them, dominate their meta with your whims and suggestions.
>>23103864>Why must a relationship with a woman be the end all be all of my life?Welcome to manhood, where your pursuit of an imagined woman is painted as running away, being afraid, and excluding the world to pursue your own desires, while a pursuit of a real woman would be viewed as wholesome, healthy, and desirableYou exist to serve society and perpetuate the status quo. Don't like it? God, what a weirdo. Why can't you be more normal, weirdo?
>>23103864>Why must a relationship with a woman be the end all be all of my life?If you don't want a relationship with a woman, why are you filling the slot of a relationship with a woman with an aspect of your own psyche?
>>23103859>So, who's the one who can tell the difference?Whoever keeps putting these brains in jars. >your "correct" interpretation would be considered absurdIrrelevant, as it would still be correct. There's a difference between perception of reality and actual objective reality. When everyone believed the earth was flat, was it really?
>>23103912In before he resorts to "Hurr >implying the world isn't flat".
>>23103892>Arguing in circlesWell hey this was a very productive conversation with a clear intellectual giant. Was a great chat dude, now give yourself a big pat on the ass and crown yourself victor, I am officially too tired of talking to you to continue>>23103912>When everyone believed the earth was flat, was it really?Nobody ever thought that, it is a popular misconception and you even bringing it up calls into question how well read you are on subjective reality>There's a difference between perception of reality and actual objective realityAnd yet the actual objective reality wholly depends on our perception of it to be viewed. Funny, thatSo yeah, discussion was nice
>>23103911Because that aspect has always been there. My tulpa has basically been there for as long as I can remember. I never really had a choice in the matter.I say I'm in love because I don't how else to describe the emotion I feel due to my lack of eloquence.
>>23103859There is some objective reality that we share with other beings, allowing us to influence each other for better or for worse.This causes conflict between the self and the not-self.We have an instinctive fear that the not-self will overcome us and our existence will end. Because of this fear we value the things that we see as helping us win that fight against the not-me that we suspect might be threatening our existence.The idea of a subjective reality is a comforting myth we build up in our mind. In the distorted view argument we placate the fear of this external reality by saying that it only exists in (or rather manifests through) our minds.But it does not matter what the objective reality is - the key issues are: does it exist, and will it defeat me.Death, we are all afraid of death.
>>23104018And I guess I spent too long typing this and the two guys are done arguing now.Oh well, I will go back to trying to realize my immortality.
>>23103962>And yet the actual objective reality wholly depends on our perception of it to be viewed. Funny, thatWhat? No, it doesn't. That's the whole point. Our perception of reality is subjective and can be manipulated, but reality itself is objective. The objective world exists separately from us. It does not depend on us in any way, shape or form.
/tg/ - Ontology
>>23104084Well, >>23104002 pretty much summarized it, and both sides are basically just saying "NUH UH" "YUH HUH" at this point, so yeah