Go hunting!

Oh man, those hunting rolls from last time could not have worked any more perfectly than they did.

Does the Sheff estate have a library that we can look at?

read a book on alchemy.

>>7142989
It has a small library with scrolls on a multitude of topics.

>>7142988
More hunting?

>>7143013
Just going off to hunt by ourselves on another lord's land seems incredibly sketchy. Not too mention pointless considering we just came back from a hunt.

My vote is going to the library and reading up on some mythology, legends, etc. When we get our estate in order, we're bound to get bored eventually.

>>7143010
The library isn't large enough to have anything so valuable as books in it. It's a collection of scrolls on various topics, precisely organised by a scribe.

TALK TO URIST.

>>7143025
are there any scrolls on the subject then?.

>>7143030
seconded.

>>7143030
Am I the only one that think that it is a good idea to see what kind of condition Urist is in, and get the full story of what happened from his point of view? He's been captive for months apparently, and all we have heard up to this point is hearsay and conjecture.

>>7143030

This. Also talk to Sheff or someone of his household to make sure that our merchant friend is being taken care of, given access to food, cleaning facilities, whatever else is necessary for him to recover from his imprisonment.

>>7143030
You talk to Urist, who is in the care of a Exidaid priest. He's incredibly thankful to you, and apologises for not making it with the vegetables in Wrecktember. According to him, he owes you a debt, and offers to become your private merchant, allowing you first pick at his wares, and selling your wares for you.

>>7143038
You talk to the scribe, who introduces himself as John, and he directs you to the alchemy section. However all the scrolls are missing. John is quite perplexed as to where they may be.

>>7143089

An offer we'd be glad to accept. A regular trading agent would be most helpful.

As to the scrolls... there's one possible culprit who's stalked off in a fit of pique, and is known to be crazy enough that he might just steal from his gracious host. Was Sylem seen around the library before he left?

>>7143103

Alternatively either Sheff's daughter or perhaps Sheff himself has removed the alchemy section - the former out of academic interest, the latter hoping to foil such unseemly academic interest.

>>7143103
Lol, my first thought was that Sarah snuck them off to study them.

It would be a good first step to ask her if she has seen them. Either she does have them, or she will be most sympathetic to our cause of getting them back.

>>7143080
Urist tells you that he was buying some carrots from the peasantry in Erondia, when a half dozen local toughs in uniforms arrest him on a dozen trumped up charges. After beating him up they took him before a Sylem's court, where they were paid a bounty for bringing in a dwarf, and then he was caged. Sylem personally oversaw his treatment, treating him like a caged animal, whipping and starving him, only feeding him enough to survive.

>>7143089
>However all the scrolls are missing. John is quite perplexed as to where they may be.

First thought was Sarah, but didn't she have permission from her parents to dabble in alchemy? Perhaps Sylem decided to try and set us up after hearing us talk about alchemy at dinner?

>>7143103
No you fucking dipshit. The OP couldn't have been more obvious that it's Sheff's daughter who took them.

Also, I don't suppose Scribe John is a reference to the writefag who goes by that name?

>>7143128
Does Urist have any idea why Sylem has a bug up his ass regarding Dorfs?

>>7143118
You wonder about the castle, looking for Sarah, and eventually find her and her mother embroidering. Sarah is obviously bored, and jumps up with excitement when she sees you. "Oh! You're back! I heard you and Lord Sylem got in a duel! And then he came back in a fury. He looked as angry as I've ever seen any man." Her mother doesn't say anything, but looks disapproving.

>>7143179
Shit. Her mother will not be pleased with talk of alchemy.

Perhaps we could explain what really happened. That Sylem had most unjustly imprisoned, caged and tortured a friend of ours and that we did what we could to get him free with assistance from her father and Lord Lyann.

>>7143179

If we haven't already, offer a heartfelt apology to both ladies for our poor conduct at the dinner. We were somewhat carried away by the excellent fare and charming company, and absolutely did not intend to cause offense.

Do this: >>7143203
Then this: >>7143199

>>7143214
Second.

>>7143152
None at all. Racism is fairly common amongst Erondians, particularly in the southwest, where most non-humans are gobins, orcs, and tend to be bad news. However it's not usually so overt.

>>7143179
"I wouldn't go as far as to say it was a duel. It was simply a friendly competition during the hunt. I'm afraid I was forced to resort to settling a disagreement we had in that manner. See, Sylem had imprisoned an acquaintance of mine by what I could only assume to be an honest mistake. I'm glad he was able to see reason tonight.

Of course, what I came here to say was that I am very sorry for my behavior during the feast. I hope neither of you will judge me too harshly for it but I certainly won't fault you for it."

>>7143179

Give an explanation of the situation, stressing how we could not allow a friend of ours to suffer such terrible injustice at the hands of Lord Sylem, and so with the welcome assistance of Lords Sheff and Lyann we challenged Sylem to a hunting contest; by the grace of Byron we were successful, and the mistreated dwarf was freed.

Make sure that credit is given where it is due, and that we don't come across as a boaster or braggart. It was a tricky situation, but we were simply doing what we felt was right and just.

>>7143203
Your apology is taken well, and Lady Sheff's glare softens some.

You quickly fill them in on the truth of what happened. Lady Sheff looks thoughtful, whereas Sarah is absolutely beaming. She starts to say something, then thinks better of it and instead asks after the dwarf's health.

>>7143263
Tell her that he had a hard time, but that he is doing well now. Then mention how you lucky you feel that he has offered become a merchant in your service.

Do we want to direct the conversation towards the scrolls now, or should we continue with small talk?

>>7143263

Give a matter-of-fact description of how Urist was treated by Sylem, and how he is now recovering thanks to the care of our gracious hosts. To be honest we don't need to overplay how badly-treated he was, the facts speak for themselves. However, we are clearly unhappy with Sylem's actions against our friend.

>>7143307

I think that at the moment we're definitely in Sarah's good books, but we're still trying to atone in Lady Sheff's eyes. As such, any discussion of alchemy should be postponed until she's not around, given that she does not approve of her daughter's studies.

>>7143307
>>7143315
I'd mix these two.

Tell her that he suffered badly under Sylem without actually getting into the ins and outs of what happened. But state that he's getting better thanks to our hosts and the skills of the priest. He should be well with rest and care.

>>7143321
I think we could probably mention that we were looking to read the alchemy scrolls in Sheff's library if we touch it very lightly and then, before we leave, inquire with Lady Cathy if we would be able to ask her chef for the veal pie recipe that was served at dinner?

>>7143307
Sarah states "Dwarves are funny like that. The only things more important to them then gold are their clan and honour. Or so father says, I've never met a dwarf. I would love to do so though." Lady Sheff sternly stares down at her daughter, and scolds her "It's not appropriate for a young lady to be talking to strange dwarves, particularly one's of uncertain reputation!."

>>7143372
Be polite, but we must vouch for Urist's name with complete confidence.

>>7143387
And do you guys think it would be too much of an affront to her mother if we were to offer to grant Sarah's request to meet a dwarf?

It would be a good chance to get her alone for a bit, and mention the alchemy scrolls.

>>7143417
It would piss her off, I think. She's just laid down the law and won't appreciate us trying to over-ride her. Secondly, there's no chance in hell of us getting Sarah away from her unchaperoned.

>>7143372

Respectfully note that we can vouch for this particular dwarf as a trustworthy and honest sort, and his mistreatment by Sylem was entirely undeserved.

I think that we'll need to talk to Sarah away from Lady Sheff in order to have any discussion of more risky things without damaging our standing with her.

For now, I vote for the veal pie gambit, praising it in glowing terms and asking if we might have the recipe.

At the end of the conversation, though, we could remark that we will be spending some time in the library, with a Significant Glance to Sarah. Say nothing overt, but let the subtext speak for itself.

>>7143460

I'm perfectly fine with this,

>>7143364
>>7143387
"I can vouch for Urist, he is a dwarf of his word. In fact he was captured whilst undertaking an obligation for me at some personal risk to himself. "

You then mention that there was a few things you want to look into before the evening's service. Primarily the alchemy scrolls, but you also wish to talk to the Chef who cooked the veal pie at that morning's feast. You wish to get the recipe for yourself.

Cathy says "Oh, it is nothing, I just used extra rosemary. Spices are the secret."

>>7143460
This, but perhaps we could also mention the scribe seem surprised that some scrolls seemed the be missing.

This is probably our best shot but I'm not convinced that Cathy will let Sarah out of her sight.

>>7143432

Yeah, we're still recovering from acting like a boorish oaf at dinner. Though perhaps we could later arrange for Urist to approach Lord Sheff while his wife and daughter are present and tender his thanks for their kind treatment and hospitality. That'd give a pretext for Sarah to talk to the dwarf, and for Lady Sheff to see that Urist is a decent sort.

>>7143501
We should probably not mention the scrolls. If it's Sarah who took them, then her mother might connect the dots when we bring it up.

>>7143504
This is a good point. Urist will most likely be with us when we leave Sheff's lands at it seems likely that Sheff's family would see us off.

>>7143517

This. We don't want to get the young lady in trouble with her folks.

>>7143517
Looks like we've already mentioned it and she didn't mind.

>>7143524
We mentioned we wanted to look into them not that they were missing.

>>7143539
Well, let's not dwell too heavily on the subject then.

Perhaps we could thank Cathy for sharing her secret, compliment her by saying that we wished our personal chef was even half as skilled as her, bid them farewell and GTFO?

>>7143479

Whoops, forgot to mention roll to bluff. 1d10, looking to score low.

>>7143479

The lady has a skilled and delicate touch with the seasoning, certainly. Ask more about the spices - which are best suited to certain types of dish, that kind of thing. Draw her out on what is clearly a subject of interest to her.

Since we now have a resident merchant of our own, if we can discreetly determine if there are any spices she particularly prizes or has a hard time getting hold of, in the future we could try to source a supply of such spices and send them to her as a gift.

rolled 8 = 8

>>7143586
I shouldn't be allowed to touch dice but /tg/ looks to be really slow tonight.

>>7143599
THAT'S RIGHT, YOU ROLL HIGH WHEN I DON'T WANT YOU TO.

rolled 1 = 1

>>7143586

Rolling for bluff, assuming I can get the dice thing to work.

>>7143607
:(

>>7143599

>>7143607

FFFFFFFFF--

>>7143599
>>7143607
I hate when this happens the most.

>>7143599
>>7143573
Cathy notes your lack of surprise when she mentions being the chef, and thanks you for the compliment to her cooking.
>>7143595
However when you continue to engage her in talk about cooking and spices she seems surprised and shares a few tips. She mentions saffron and peppers being hard to find around here, and awfully expensive.

>>7143573
Do this. I think we are beating a dead horse here.

>>7143658

Noted and filed for later discussion with Urist.

Continue the conversation for a while and then I think we're about ready to move on?

>>7143722
Second.

Depending on how much time we have left, find Erik, give him a heads up about the scroll situation in case Sylem has done something screwy and then do some light reading in the library?

I'm starting to think we need a Spymaster, but we're probably a touch too small for that yet.

bump for Quest Lord

Christ /tg/ is quiet tonight.

Sorry, power went out. I'm back now. Sorry it's been so slow tonight.

I personally think we should encourage trade as much as possible, we've already got our own personal merchant and further trade would help us bring in the moolah

>>7143885
No problems bro.

>>7143912
I also want to spread word about what Sylem did if it won't offend Urist. If we can create a meme around Sylem unjustly imprisoning merchants we could probably harm him economically. If he suffers economically he might have troubles maintaining his military and lose status and influence in the region.

>>7143931
Good call brosef

Oh and before I forget, I'd like to make sure we remember to ask Sheff about the priest of Artagus that we have been looking for for god knows how many months.

Ok, tiemskip to the Service. The Sheff Family, Lyann and you walk into a crypt-temple. A lone priest is singing a hymn in a language you don't understand. The walls are covered in vaults, all with the names, birthdays and ages of various Sheffs when they died carved into the walls. You follow Sheff's lead and kneel in front of the altar, with the Sheff Emblem, a Giant with a Trident, carved into obsidian. Beneith it is written "Tolerate no poison, remove it with valor."

Kneeling before the statue you hear mutters in odd voices, and a cold prickling sensation starts on the back of your neck.

>>7143995


...weird, but keep calm and follow our hosts' lead. Maybe sneak a sly glance to either side to see how the others are reacting.

>>7143995
Begin to/continue to go through the motions of the service.

>>7143995
Holy shit. Do we have to make a sanity check?

But in all seriousness, ask Sheff what those voices were.

Suddenly the priest twitches and his voice takes a different tone. The language changes too, sounding almost like an odd dialect of Erondian, but you can't understand what he is saying. Sheff stands and replies in the same tounge, but this time you can understand more of what he is saying.

"We have . . . honour those who . . gone before us. . . present to . . . friendly. . . Sir Lyann of Eastcoast." Lyann stands, and hesitantly walks over to the priset, pauses a moment, then kneels. The priest continues talking in the odd language, intones something with some weight of importance in his words, then Lyann stands and walks back.

>>7144022
No SAN checks needed here. Sheff is standing out the front with the preist, you can't talk to him without interrupting the ceremony.

Maintain composure, continue to listen to service.

>>7144069

Sheff continues talking in the odd tounge.
"And another. . . newcomer. . . worthy and strong . . . Lord Thomas Green of Teajy." The last part is louder, and you look up. Lord Sheff discretely motions for you to come up to where the priest, now holding an ancient blade in his hands is standing."

>>7144111
We trust Sheff. Walk up confidently. Looks like it might be time to meet the Grandparents.

>>7144111
Walk up to the priest, wait for a sign to kneel or perform any necessary actions.

>>7144111
>Lord Sheff discretely motions for you to come up to where the priest, now holding an ancient blade in his hands, is standing."
FTFM

>>7144111
Follow Lyann's example. Walk over and kneel before the priest.

>>7144111
Bitches we be getting some goods.

Also for future reference: get pigs..

>>7144111

Show no fear, but watch discreetly for cues from Sheff.

>>7144127
>>7144133
>>7144136
You walk up to the priest, who is standing there silently. As you kneel before him he starts to speak, and Sheff whispers in your ear, translating.

"I hereby recognise Thomas Green as a friend to the family of Sheff, and would honour him with my blade." The priest dubs you with the sword and speaks, Sheff once more translating. "Friend, who would suck the poison from us, with with valour fight it. Friend who would pull us from the fire, and with compassion, quench it. Friend who would defend us from the final death, and in good faith fight with us. Stand Thomas Green."

As you stand the priest says something, to which Sheff replies, evidently surprised. Sheff then asks you whether you are decended from the Doobs family of Northgate. (you are, mothers side.)

Answer honestly.

>>7144238

Reply in the affirmative.

Clearly we have been done a great honour in being recognised as a true friend of their family, and should be suitably reverent.

Well, a part of my would like to say we're not, because this is really looking like a one choice situation.

Yes, of course we are.

>>7144263
Second.

Did Sheff not meet Doobs when he was our guest?

There is no reason to lie, so tell him the truth.

Gotta say, religion in this world is pretty awesome.

If we can check discreetly, what's Lyann's reaction to this ceremony?

>>7144238
Sheff translates the priest's reply, seemingly worried. "We Sheffs had a blood fued with the Doobs family of old, when they rebelled against King Brachyura in the second treachery of the Sucessor's war. It was but two generations after we inherited Seakay, and they were ever bitter of us slaying one of their mighty Wyverns. We killed the last Wyvern Drake in this part of the world, it was a mighty victory. But the feuding which followed was harsh." He lifts his sword, but before you can react continues talking. After a moment the current Lord Sheff is relieved, and continues translating. "But these fueds end with time, and no hate should last unto perpetuity. I would ask you give blood tonight, as a sign of your friendship and the end of the fued."

>>7144384

hmmm not sure if i trust his last part of the translation

>>7144384
I'm willing. I'm not sure what the rest of the family would think, but since we never learned of the feud, I'm guessing it's not that big of a deal to them?

>>7144384
Give the blood.

>>7144326
Lyann is a little twitchy, but overall comfortable with it. It would seem that he has observed this ceremony before.

>>7144304
When religion has a corporeal effect (ie. is REAL) it tends to notch stuff up a bit.

>>7144384
I think that's hardly appropriate giving we had no clue of the feud.

We're certainly in no position to dictate the actions of other clan members who may still harbor grudge. More importantly, should one of them seek to continue the harm, will it not look poorly on our offering of a sacrifice with no meaning behind it?

>>7144384

go for it, to turn it down would totally ruin all the work we have done so far

>>7144435
If one of our relatives (or entire family, however unlikely) does not heed our sacrifice, will it reflect poorly on us?

>>7144384

"The fires of old grudges are dead and cold; since we came to these lands the House of Sheff has shown us only the open hand of friendship, and so we gladly offer ours in the same spirit. Let this be the last blood shed between our houses."

Hold out our hand, palm open, to Lord Sheff.

>>7144435

We're the head of our household here in the border marches, so we speak on behalf of ourselves and our estate. What other members of our family do outside of our control is not up to us, but this is an agreement of friendship between our demesne and Sheff's.

>>7144479
Negative, he's asking us to end a feud between families.

It's our mother's side additionally, so we are in no position to act in the head of the families stead without endorsement.

>>7144425
He's talking about the wars of succession, from what you learned of history that was a Loooooooooooooong time ago.

>>7144431
Sheff motions you to wait to the side as he takes the sword, and taking off his shirt, cuts a long line down his chest. Not to deeply, but deep enough. He lets a double handful of blood pool within the his hands and then pours it into a hole in the altar. Then his sons follow, each using a small dagger they brought with them to do a smaller cut on their chest. You see that all of them have many scars from identical cuts. Sarah follows, using a small bone needle she prics a hole in her finger, and lets a few drops fall into the hole, before motioning for you to follow suit. Lord Sheff hands you an ancient short sword he's taken from the rack behind him. Dispite being copper, and noticeably ancient, it's blade is still sharp. You do a large cut similar to Sheffs, and after giving your blood, stand back. Most of the family is all standing behind the altar, where you join them, although Cathy and Lyann are still kneeling before the altar.

>>7144500

Given that neither we nor Sheff had heard of this feud, and that DOOOOOOOOOBS never mentioned it while Sheff was visiting, I'm guessing that this is a feud only remembered by the Sheff ancestors. In all meaningful ways it's over, so this is a symbolic gesture to confirm that things are settled.

>>7144509
Railroad away then.

I am, honestly, disappoint. Mutilating ourselves for someone is a tad bit extreme.

>>7144509
If they've done this about a million times before, was there actually a fued or was it just part of the "Withdraw poison with valour" ritual?

>>7144457
It's a little bigger then that.

You speak these words as you walk on over to the altar. "The fires of old grudges are dead and cold; since we came to these lands the House of Sheff has shown us only the open hand of friendship, and so we gladly offer ours in the same spirit. Let this be the last blood shed between our houses. I can not vouch for all of my blood, but I can vouch for all of my household, and all who come forth after me."

>>7144519
The majority of posts did seem in favour of it though.

>>7144537
see
>>7144423
>>7144435
>>7144454
and, at least questioningly >>7144425

It could of at least been further discussed.

>>7144519
Sorry, I did that bit before anyone had expressed major worries.

>>7144520
They've done this many times before, although note Cathy and Lyann didn't get up to give blood. Not saying any more then that.

>>7144549
I should have refreshed and checked that you were all still for it after I wrote that bit out. Still getting used to DMing a quest via /tg/.

>>7144557
Well, you did say Lyann had already done this before and Cathy married into the family.

I'm just saying, it's a bit suspect that their family motto is "Withdraw poison with valour" and then, here we are, having to end a blood feud (poison) by being valourous. Especially when they all have so many scars on them.

I'm not complaining because the ceremony and friendship will serve us well, but still... BUT STILL.

>>7144549

I'm cool with going along with this ceremony. We're forging our own path here, and we've determined that Sheff is a steadfast friend and worthy of our friendship in return. It would be churlish to cling to an old feud that we'd not even known about until now, just on the off-chance that someone wants to kick it off again.

>>7144577

we would have gone for it anyway. spending all that time trying to woo the shefs and then end up offending them would suck

>>7144586
The Sheff Family are a slightly changed version of something I had bounching around in my head awhile. Suffice to say that was what the Sheff Ancestors were trying to symbolise, but they are a bit behind the times.

>>7144605
Again, the major argument against was nothing personal. Sheff has been nothing but a good friend to us.

HOWEVER, we're the second son of a female of the Doobs family, we have no right to speak to the clan.

What's done is done, we need to react. We need to send correspondence to the head of the Doobs family and tell him what we've done. Further, and though I'm sure his intentions are noble, a regional power possesses an amount of our own blood. Are there any magics that deal with such things?

>>7144641
>I can not vouch for all of my blood, but I can vouch for all of my household, and all who come forth after me.

It really shouldn't be needed. We sword for ourselves, our household and our descendants. And consoidering that DOOOOOOOOOOOOBS didn't shit a brick when Sheff came over, it's not a huge thing.

>>7144663
Again, not to us.

It's not a matter of whether we like him or not, it's our right to account for an entire clan on a whim. There is a formal way to do such things, Sheff certainly could of allowed us time to speak to the Doobs before committing them with our blood.

well, whats done is done, now we have to see where this flows to

>>7144704
We aren't accounting for our whole family though. We are speaking for us.

>>7144729
Agreed.

What happens now, OP?

>>7144735
In >>7144384 , Sheff is asking us to end a feud. The feud is between his house and our mother's house. There was never a feud between him and us, because we never knew about it.

Ok, on with the show!

The preist addresses you all with some talk, which Sheff Translates for you.
"Added to the fallen are your brother Gerold, his son will be bringing the bones to lay down in his place soon, so he may join us. His son is of age, you may want to convince him to stay and give blood if he can, let him have a place carved for him also.

Before I go, a word from those older then I.

The forest that walks shall be bound to the giant, and the giant to the forest. Dark blood will strike, but pure sanguine repel and prevail. Give much thought to steel and fire, for it's time is coming. As old steel is laid to rest, new steel will be wrought, and thirstily quenched. Old signs will return. "

With a twitching the Priest falls to the floor, and getting himself up speaks in his original voice. "I guess all went well m'lord, and we have another blooded I see. Will this one be wanting a place?"
Sheff smiles and says "No, I would not be thinking so. Clean up the altar, and wait for the sheets in the morning." Turning to you he continues "Don't go showing those to the priests, they'll take on so, and they won't be able to heal it anyways. Nothing a good nights rest won't fix."

>>7144768
Now, I'm just a tad unsettled.

When in an appropriate place and time, we need to talk to Sheff about this.

>>7144768
>Don't go showing those to the priests, they'll take on so
What do you mean? It's just a cut from a-
>they won't be able to heal it anyways
wat

>>7144793
yes

we and sheff need a good talk.

>>7144820

the scar from the ceremony

so priests wont like it and cant heal it which sounds ominous

anyone else hear the ringing call to arms in that?

>>7144843
Oh my, yes.

>>7144842
"wat" is a general term for disbelieving in something, not necessarily a question.

>>7144843

sure did plus i am intrigued by the forest that walks, what's the name of the forest on our land? not birnam wood by any chance?

the giants might be the bigger trolls?

>>7144875
He mentioned two separate giants, so "it" probably wasn't referring to many.

>>7144793
Nows a good a time as any.

As you walk back from the temple you adress your worries to Sheff. "Oh, that war's long done and over. The old ghosts are never up on the times. That was before you Greens were even nobles. Between the old families it was. Sheffs and Doobs were bitter enemies, and the Sheffs were a new family then. The Doobs are old guard, didn't like the new upstart families taking their power. But it's all ancient history now. Just keeping the ghosts happy."

"Oh and the cuts. Well, the priests of Exidaid don't hold with ancestor worship, most of the newer gods don't. But you said you're a Byron man? From what I know you have no strictures about such things. Sorry it was forced on you like that, I didn't expect things to go that way. It's a great honour though, only other people in my lifetime outside the family to give blood was Lyann and Reginald, one of my father's old guard. He got him a place too, a good man he was. Oh and Cathy, when she married in. Never given blood since, she's of Exidaid, don't hold with it. Only did it for the wedding ceremony, and I took her vows too. She comes down every year though, to keep an eye of the children. She wasn't happy when Sarah took to the old ways, her sisters both went to Exidaid. But now I'm rambling, anything else you want to ask about?"

whats the time Mr questlord?
bed time soon?

>>7144903
Tell him we're honored, but request, as the friends we've become, not to be backed into a situation like that without warning.

If our priest request ever comes through, I'd hate for this to be a question.

>>7144903
Ask about the part at the end. The bit that sounded like a prophecy. Was that usual?

>>7144903
Make sure we let the Doob family know, maybe they'll be happy with what we did?

>>7144903
Ask about MISSING SCROLLS

As far as the prophecy goes, the Giant is the heraldic sign of the Sheff family. The Ent (ie: the walking forest) is the heraldic sign of the Green family, so that part is presumably a reference to the bond of friendship between our houses now.

As far as the rest of it is concerned, sounds like a fight is coming. We should prepare.

um lets see.

A forest that walks is often used to refer to massed spear/pike formations on the march and two giants could easly mean two large empires.

>>7144967
Ah. I completely forgot about that.

Well, we wanted to know about finding someone to supply us with military wares when we came down here. Seems like we have even more reason to find that now.

>>7144925
12:30 here, so I got a bit yet. No work tomorrow, and with any luck I'll get another sleep in.

>>7144931
"Yeah, sorry about that. I'll try and avoid it as I can. I was just relieved it didn't go worse. First time I invited Sylem it almost ended up messy. When the old ghosts started talking about the old fued, I thought I'd have to step in again. The next time I brought him in, the ghosts were quieter, but they didn't like it. The whole giving blood thing held some fascination to him, otherwise he wouldn't have insisted he come again. Lyann might be happy to antagonise him, and be on the edge of war, but I'm not. Every time I take a step forwards to getting the two of them to tone down their raiding, something happens to flair it up again."

>>7144982 talking

>>7144967 is damn good too. iwould go for one of these

>>7144967
That's something I've been saying since the first thread. Does it really take a prophet to tell us that?

Also, this is really dependent on what we're facing, we should avoid making use of Sheff's army as much as possible. Trade with him for arms, maybe except advisers to train our men, but we must attempt to stand on our own.

Especially with this ceremony thing, we have to establish our land as a separate friend, not a indebted subject.

>>7144967

nicely remembered

>As old steel is laid to rest, new steel will be wrought
this perhaps means the end of the old feud and taking up arms with the shef's against the "dark blood"

>>7144952
They usually give some kind of warning, and a comment on the year gone. They've been hinting at something bloody for some time now, but nothing's come of it. Sometimes their prophesies take hundreds of years before they come true, at other times only days. I wouldn't worry yet, but I assume it'll be another war with the tribes, sometime in the next 300 years.

>>The forest that walks shall be bound to the giant, and the giant to the forest.

Alliance between the houses of Sheff and Green.

>>Dark blood will strike, but pure sanguine repel and prevail.

An attack by dark forces; sanguine is a heraldic colour, right? Any houses in the region whose primary colour is red? Otherwise, perhaps just referring to righteousness and valour.

>>Give much thought to steel and fire, for it's time is coming.

Get tooled up, forge armour and weapons and prepare for battle.

>>As old steel is laid to rest,

The old feud between Sheff and Doobs?

>>new steel will be wrought, and thirstily quenched.

A new grudge, perhaps with Sylem?

>>Old signs will return.

...uncertain, but sounds ominous.

>>7145051
pure sanguine is probably a reference to the blood ceremony, a sign that we or Sheff should prevail over what comes.

>>7145029

Perhaps so; hopefully so.

Nonetheless, given that we've royally pissed off one of the region's military powers (who also happens to be crazy), we should probably look to our defences.

>>7145051
>sanguine is a heraldic colour, right?

Sanguine = blood

>>7145091
agreed

Gules is the heraldic "Red" color

>>7144988

>>Every time I take a step forwards to getting the two of them to tone down their raiding, something happens to flair it up again.

We should probably apologise for our part in the latest flare-up. Not that we'd do it differently, given the circumstances, but we do regret making trouble for our host.

>>7145051
Sylem's house is Gules-Red and Sable-Black. Just for note, his house emblem is a gallows corpse with black wings. Arkem's personal touch is a grail in the corpse's hand.

>>7145138
Yep. He's a villain.

>>7145138

He's a pretty creepy mofo, it has to be said.

>>7145138
Probably not him, then. That would be just a bit slow of a ball for you to throw.

>>7145133
"No problem, they would have found something to fight over. It's good you managed to deal with it so peacefully, your uncle almost came to blows with the man in a Tourny I hear. Over some young squire fighting with the nobles or something.

>>7145164
Doobs?

Ok, that was the last night of the month, progressing to the new month now.

NEW MONTH: APRIL

TRESURY
Gold Incoming 23
Gold Outgoing 0.5
Gold Profits 22.5
Total Gold 78.975
Debt 0
To brother 0
One Time Costs 0
Cost 1 0
Cost 2 0

STOCKPILES
Lumber Cut 20
Lumber Used 42.66666667
Lumber Created -22.66666667
Lumber Stockpile 7
Max Stockpile 200
Stockpile Spare 193

Food Grown 55
Food Hunted 27
Food Eaten 23.6
Food Brewed 5
Excess Food 53.4
Excess Stored 40
Excess Wasted 13.4
Food Stockpile 65
Max Food 200
Stockpile Spare 135

Skins Gathered 27
Skins Used 0
Skins Created 27
Skins Stockpile 0
Max Skin Stockpile 0
Stockpile Spare 0
Leather Created 0
Leather Stockpile 0
Max Leather Stock 0

Ale Brewed 5
Ale Drunk 0
Ale Created 5
Ale Stockpile 5
Max Stockpile 200
Stockpile Spare 195

Stone Quarried 5.8
Stone Used 0
Stone Gained 5.8
Stone Stockpile 5.8
Max Stone 1000
Stockpile Spare 994.2

POPULACE 118
Workers 94 Peasants 64 Hunters 10 Peat Gatherers 20 Builders 60

Soldiers 13 Men at Arms 5 Yeomen 8

Advisors 10

NET GROWTH 2
Growth 4
2 locals come of age, 2 miagrants

Deaths 2
One of old age, another in a hunting mishap

LIVESTOCK 24
Cattle 8 Cows 6 Bulls 2 Calves 2 Age(months) 1
Birthed 0 Draught 4 Feed
Goats 13 Nannies 10 Billies 3 Kids 3 Age(months) 0
Birthed 0 Feed
Horses 3
Riding 3 Mares 0 Stallions 0 Foals 0 Age(months) 0
Birthed 0 In use/Away 3 Feed Geldings 3

TOOLS AND SUPPLIES
Carts 3 Quarry 0 Peat 3
Ropes 3 Used 3 Spare 0
Small Ropes (1d5) 3 Used 3 Spare 0
Medium Ropes (1d15) 0 Used 0 Spare 0
Fuses 3
Magic Scroll 1 Months to tranlation 2
Hunting Scroll 1 Taught 1 Untaught 0
LAND
Turnip Patches 30 Units Turnips 15
Rice Plots 10 Units Rice 40 Months to harvest 0
WORK
PEASANTS 64
UNASSIGNED 2
HERDING 3
Goat Herding 2 Goats Tended 13 Goats Escape 0
Cattle Heading 1 Cattle Tended 8 Cattle Escape 0
FARMING 50
Turnip Farming 30
Rice Farming 20
GATHERING 2
Gathering Wood 2
Quarrying Stone 14 Work Done 5.8 Ropes 3 Rope Bonus 15
PRODUCING 5
Brewing 5
OTHER 2
Renovating Town 2


BUILDERS 60
Tannary 60 Rate 2 Draught 4 Carts 0
Total 500 Progress/Month 128 Total Done 218 Total Remaining 282
Lumber Used 42.66666667 Stone Used 0
HUNTERS 10
Hunting 10
PEAT GATHERERS 20
Gathering Peat 20 Peat Gathered 23 Peat Price (gold) 1 Profit made 23
Carts 3
LODGINGS 206 Total Spare Room 43 Homeless 0
VILLAGE 120 Huts (5) 24 Share Houses (10) 0
Some Room Lodgers 100 Room Spare 20
THOM'S MERCY 60 Huts (5) 0 Share Houses (10) 6
Some Room Lodgers 50 Room Spare 10
KEEP 26
KEEP ROOMS 13 Poor Rooms (1) 3 Decent Rooms (1) 5 Good Rooms 5
Poor Rooms Spare 3 Decent Rooms Spare 3 Good Rooms Spare 0
Some Room Lodgers 7 Rooms Spare 6
BARRACKS 13 Size 20 Soldiers 13
Some Room Spare Room 7

HIRED 1 Total Cost 0.5
Mason (Assistant) 1 Cost/Mason 0.5

>>7145220

>>Lumber Used 42.66666667

lol wut

>>7145220
>another in a hunting mishap

Did we lose a hunter? Or did a peasant just get shot in the face by one?

>>7145244
He's using excel. Clearly we used a third of a unit lumber but the system had to round.

>>7145220
>Total Gold 78.975

Shouldn't be this high. Looks like the one time cost values disappeared.

>come of age: 2

Visit them and encourage them.

FOR WE ARE A LORD OF THE PEOPLE.

So when were we meant to make the offering of the amulet we bought?

I'd contend that we add some projects to our list:

- Build a Smithy and procure the services of a decent blacksmith.
- Better equipment for our soldiers. The tannery could help by producing leather armour, the smithy will be able to produce spearheads and metal armour.
- Fortifications. Rebuild and/or strengthen the walls around our keep. Currently I think we've got wooden palisades at best, if we have enough stone to upgrade or reinforce those then that'd be good. How long would it take peasants to dig earthen ditches and ramparts around the keep, if we don't have those already?
- Basic training for every able-bodied man on our estate. Several hours a week, at least, training in staves, spears or bows.
- Outposts at the edges of our territory, or wherever an attacker might try to move in from - we're fairly well-defended from two sides, having a swamp and a river in our favour, but need to do our best to ensure we have advance warning of any approaching foes. Beacon fires should do the job for that - a stack of wood and oil on visible hilltops to relay a warning across the countryside in case of alarm.

did we ever thank lyann for backing our bet with sylem? should do this, prehaps give a gift?

do we need to hire urist? do we get a share in his profits if we do?

>>7145250
A peasant was lost. He was out gathering lumber, when he was shot in the leg. Turned foul, and the preist couldn't save him. One of the new lads was given his place in turn.

You wake up the next morning, your sheets soaked with blood, but your wound healed. A long scar remains where you opened your flesh, but it's healed over cleanly, and there is no scab, just a pale pink line of new skin. Lord Sheff comes down to your room shortly afterwards, and walks in on you topless, running your finger where you should have a long scar. "Told you a nights sleep would do you a world of good. Again, don't say a word to any of the priests about this, they get touchy over it."

Later, at breakfast Sheff asks your plans. "You're welcome to stay on as long as you like, but you'll need to get back to your own estate to keep things moving smoothly I take it."

>>7145318
>- Basic training for every able-bodied man on our estate. Several hours a week, at least, training in staves, spears or bows.

We've been doing for several threads now

>Outposts at the edges of our territory, or wherever an attacker might try to move in from - we're fairly well-defended from two sides, having a swamp and a river in our favour

The swamp being full of trolls, is definitely not in our favor, especially if they attack. The river is bridged nearby and on someones land.

>Beacon fires should do the job for that - a stack of wood and oil on visible hilltops to relay a warning across the countryside in case of alarm.

Something like this was suggested last thread, hopefully it was acted upon. Otherwise, the map didn't show any hills of note nearby.

>>7145335

speak with lyann and thank him for backing our bet with sylem ask if there is anything we can do in return?

speak with urist about getting the stuff the lady sheff wants for her cooking

>>7145335
A case of manslaughter then? We'll need to hear details and perhaps make a judgment when we get back.

>>7145253
They were mostly taken into account. You're making 22 gold 5 silvers a month. Your costs were 15g for the amulets and stuff, forgot them I think.

>>7145276
It will be done when you get back to your estate.

>>7145323
You could hire him, I'm sure he'd be amicable. As things stand though he's just a merchant at your beck and call. So if you want x, he'll get it for you, or if you want to sell y, he'll sell them for you and split the profits (mostly to you, just time and food for him). But for now he's still recovering.

>>7145323
You did say thanks, but a gift couldn't go over badly. Maybe this should be shopping quest? :P

>>7145412

>shopping quest

leave erik to manage our land and spend all day shopping with the proceeds? sounds good to me

>>7145412
15g for the amulet and rings.
40g for the debt, gift and skilled workers search in Erondia.

>>7145461
Oh shi- forgot sorry. New gold as here:

TRESURY
Gold Incoming 23
Gold Outgoing 0.5
Gold Profits 22.5
Total Gold 23.975
Debt 0
To brother 0
One Time Costs 0
Cost 1 0
Cost 2 0

>>7145487
It shouldn't be that low either.

71.475 - 55 = 16.475
16.475 + 23 = 39.475

>>7145523
I need to keep track of previous month's gold better methinks. When I forget something, it all goes to shit. 39.475 it is. Cheers for that.

Is Urist well enough to travel?

We could spend a day or so looking for an armourer and such? Or we could just ask Sheff?

>>7145536

Yeah looking for an armourer makes sense. Train the men, then ready equipment...

>>7145532
No worries, brah.

>>7145536
>>7145541
Not yet. He'll be good to travel in about a month.

You ask Sheff for an armourer, and he sends you to a merchant of some repute, near the north end of the merchant's quarter.

You arrive and the merchant has armour of all kinds from chain vests (10g) to studded leather (4g) to full plate (40g). He has large supplies of basic weapons from steel spearheads (1g for 20) to short swords (2-8g each, very simple and crude to average quality). The merchant intoduces himself as William Bell-hare, arms merchant.

>>7145606
>William Bell-hare

Haha.

Does he have a mother who gets scared easily?

>>7145606
>William of Bel-hare

My god, the Fresh Prince no less?

>>7145615
May-haps. Perhaps a bard amongst you might continue this for a bonus?

>>7145624
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVbQo3IOC_A

>>7145616

No no, he's just the merchant. That would surely be the artisan who creates his wares, William the Smith.

BONUS FOUND:
The Prince of Bell-hair.

Willium Bell-hair was the second son of a border-prince who's princedom was destroyed in a peasant uprising. The uprising was able to happen due to a shipment of weapons they stole. Knowing how much weapons were worth in the world of war, he decided to make his fortune with them. Selling his own guilted sword, he bought a small shipment of swords, and sold them for a great profit to disgruntled peasantry, who paid him after their revoloution. From this he has built up a trade empire, and although he has curbed his rebellion-fuelling weapon sales, he now deals in weapons for the crown, and is a major supplier to the Erondian army. He specialises in making cheap, no-nonsense weapons that do the job.

>>7145669

Does he do much trade with the Sylems, perchance? Just, y'know. Casually inquiring, like.

>>7145684
He supplies most the lords in the region, and the West Erondian army. Sylem however makes much of his own weapons, but the rest he buys from Will.

>>7145702
He makes his own? Interesting. Does his land have many mines, or does he import the metal?

Could we get a list of the armaments we already have and a basic list of equipment the Men-at-arms and yeomen have?

>>7145713
Will can't tell you that, but notes that when he has purchased weapons from Sylem on occasion, they're well made with very high quality steels which have a slightly darker tint then most steels.

>>7142969

>>7145717
Your advisers well are equipped for battle, at least those who would fight are.

Your men at arms are well equipped, and have a short sword, spears, Buckler and battered crude chain vests, your yeomen just have crude wooden spears.

I gotta hop off, looks like the weather is going south again. We'll call it a night here, can someone archive this on the way out please? Night all, and cheers for participating :).

>>7145770

gn, thanks!

Buy enough spear heads to provide our yeoman with simple spears. Swords are sadly too expensive for us to consider buying any great number of.

Our best bet is to attempt to hire a blacksmith sometime in the near future. It is easier to pay wages and provide material then to pay for expensive trader fees.

We should dig a proper cellar to store turnips. That way they should last for 3-4 months. Isn't a very large project.

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