>>7137936
After the weird mishap 4chan had last time, you left so you might not have seen what I wanted us to do. Here it is from the archive:

"Goodbye Azzy. I will not soon forget you."

Yes, I wish to actually call him Azzy.

And then we go through the tunnel with Kessler.

Oh come on, where all the religious debating that plagued the first part? Look, I'll start it for you.

Even if we don't have free will, we don't know it and it would be hidden so well that we would never be able to prove that we didn't have free will.

"Hrmm..." Magus Kessler groans. He looks into the Reaper's eyes, and addresses, "Thank you CHARSISXV17 for bringing us these Neophytes. Your contribution will not be mishandled, and we are, despite everything, grateful for your essential service."

The reaper responds by vibrating it's armor with sonic frequency- producing a deep metallic monotone, "YES MAGUS KESSLER. THANK YOU."

Magus Kessler nods and then beckons you to leave, and Raiz follows. He starts in without waiting for you to ask. "It is a personal... quirk of mine to feel pity for them. Of all the Templars, REAPER class models suffer the cruelest fate. They cannot exist outside the ether field for long, and so they are never amidst the city- nor do they associate with one another, for they are unfailing in their duties. They walk eternity silent and alone pulling lost souls from the formless mist. Worse still, all Templars are viewed as necessary evils at best by most Gnostics, including those in the highest Orders of the Silver Star- and yet men still choose to trade their flesh for cold blue flame and steel so they can do the duties the rest of us refuse..."
He glances out of the corner of his eye at you both,
"...welcome to Utopia."

>>7138251
((OOC: haha, I kind of liked it too, but lets see how far I can get without it.))

>>7138284
"What makes them so willing to become a Templar if they are so reviled?"

ask why we were brought here.

"One thing we must face is that we are not all equal. Not everyone will possess the mental prowess to comprehend the universe even if given an eternity to do so. But every last person who is here- we are bound by a common thread. And that is our pursuit of truth. Templars are those who pursue truth with the utmost passion, but are incapable of manifesting that desire except to do our grunt work. But this will all be explained soon- as it is you've delayed orientation a bit, but that is acceptable since I encourage interaction with the REAPER class Templars. Please have a seat in here while I prepare the Orientation."

He gestured into the lecture hall. It was well lit and well decorated, but sterile. Blue steel, scarlet tapestry and carpet, and the alabaster white of the initiate's robes seemed to be the main theme. There was enough room for people so separate. As Raiz entered, more room was made to keep distance from him.

>>7138546
Whelp, let's sit down and get ready to learn. Plot exposition, gogogo!

>>7138647

Seems like tonight might not be a good night for this OP. Sorry. I'm willing to continue if you are, but anonymous seems to be fairly quiet.

Magus Kessler took behind the podium and spoke, “Welcome, all Neophytes. There is no easy way to break into orientation, so I will try to cover all the basics before opening the floor to questions.

“You have died. Upon death, your soul- the arena that bears your experience made of a substance which we have accepted as the term ether, began to merge with collective flow of ether from whence your identity came. As you merged with the collective, your individuality began to fade, and with it all your experiences began to unravel. Without a brain or body you could not in this state form conscious thought, recall memories, or organize phenomenal experience in a coherent manner. This disembodied state is the death you faced. Your collective essence is the experiences that you endured in life, and it was these which we have captured and used to reverse engineer your brain and body. You will find that certain parts are missing, whereas you had already partially dissolved by the time we found you.”

“The agent that found you was a REAPER class Templar- a specially modified denizen of our realm who can travel the ether field without losing his identity in it, and is also specially equipped to identify, separate, and retrieve individuals from this field- a function referred to as being a psychopomp. We identified you because in life your experiences showed a devotion to truth- perhaps not a total devotion, in which case it is possible we came into conflict with other psychompomps. It appears no such confrontation emerged with this particular group.”

“Who are we? We are the Gnostics. But in order for that to mean anything you must know who else there is, and where precisely it is that you are. You are in an afterlife. It is a plane of existence shaped by mortal thought and made real by adherence to a moral virtue. The mortals who shape this realm call themselves atheists, but when they die they discover there is a non-physical dimension to reality, and so wind up here, where we take it upon ourselves to study that which cannot be studied by the living. The moral virtue that makes this world real is truth. So long as mortals continue to pursue truth, our world will exist. So long as mortals who believe in truth die, we shall seek them out and bring them here- either as a reward or to further our cause- decide for yourself.”

“There are seven other worlds, seven other virtues, roughly conforming to mortal religious themes. Because each faction wants as much faith in its existence as possible, you’ll find the interpretation of both virtue and dogma to be quite broad. Each virtue is polar, so for each virtue there will be a counter virtue, and likewise for each planar faction a counter faction. The virtues and their corresponding worlds are as follows, listed beside their counter virtue:
Mercy- the 7 Heavens vs. Justice- the Primordial Kaos
Power- the 9 Hells vs. Freedom- the Firmament
Peace- Paradise vs. Legend- Ysgard
Truth- Utopia vs…

Well, I’ll let you decide what the opposite of truth is supposed to be interpreted as.”

“Now, what else have I missed… questions?”

>>7138825
((OOC: no worries, it seems much quieter as there is no constant bicker bumping, and also this part isn't quite as gripping as the start. Presuming this can be archived, it will serve as a reference to future participants who want to more carefully understand the world))

>>7138869
Sounds good to me.

>>7138839
Opposite of truth is lies, right?

>>7138967

It depends on his definition-- if 'truth' is the pure existence of reality, then its opposite may be nothingness, or the 'ether.'

>>7138997
Well shit. Our enemy is Entropy.

>>7139012

I tend to define 'truth' in real life as simply that which is physical reality-- it is a bit sketchier when mystical planes are introduced as cannon in a work of fiction.
As long as something exists in space-time, it holds a value of true. A human can perceive truth through logical derivation from observation an verification.

>>7138839
CURRENT GOAL: Assemble an elite team made up of one man from each faction and go adventuran in the cosmos.

One of the fellow initiates raised their hands. "So what happens now?"

"Ah!" Magus Kessler replied, "I was going to get to that, but I'll say this much. You are all neophytes. That means you are all of the lowest order- essentially interns trying to find your place here in Utopia. There are terminals that have already been logged with a variety of information that you should find relatively easy to use- this should take care of some logistics such as how daily life will proceed. I'll be available and in fact keeping tabs on you to ensure you integrate well into our society and find the optimal placement for your skills. Immediately after this you'll be taken to a small lab where we will provide you with eternal life and sustenance from our tree of life, after which I'll essentially turn you loose onto the streets to figure out where to go from there. Of course, I will be available for questions at any time."

>>7139088
For some reason I thought that post was going to end in "a team of teenagers with ATTITUDE"

>>7139062
Thank you for the explanation.

>>7139126
((Just to verify, that was my post and is valid in game))

Belief possibly being the opposite of truth, but regardless:

Enquire as to how the infrastructure here such as the terminals is actually constructed?

>>7139142

*huggles Sam*
So it may not be Entropy.
On that note, we should probably ask Magus Kessler what his definition of truth is. (To better discern who might be opposing our newly joined faction.) [That we plan to take over.]

>>7139126
>Eternal life

Not sure if want...

>>7139088
((Quest Added: Super-Collider- Investigate reality with adequately balanced opinions from each dogma))

>>7139166

The opposite of *pure* reality may infact be the semantic representation of reality utilized by a human (computer) to process its interactions with its surroundings.

So the opposite of reality could simply be Symbol. (Or anything that requires an interpreting step.)

>>7139174
((Quest Added: Ipsissimus of the Silver Star- become an Ipsissimus and rule over Utopia))

>>7139217

Edit: Perhaps not 'opposite'-- since one is founded upon and cannot exist without the other. *shrug*
There may not even be an opposite to my definition of 'truth'-- whish is why we should ask our new *friends.*

>>7139174
I've just been snuggled on the internet. I don't know how I should feel about this.

Regardless, I'm skeptical about this "Tree of Life" thing. How do we know it won't do something to us that they haven't told us? I certainly won't be volunteering to go first. Other then that, I guess we should start looking for one of those terminals. Find out about the political structure here, what jobs there are, etc,.

>>7139217
Yeah, that is what I was thinking more or less I just didn't articulate it very well.

Seriously I don't quite get how we can have Tech here, even assuming the belief that stabilises the plan produces usable resources in the form of raw materials, I don't see how people are going to have somehow refined this into silicon chips in the freakin AFTERLIFE. I mean yes they have had centuries in which to build up a presence on the plane coupled with eternally living scientists, but it just seems like the transition to the afterlife would be a little too disruptive to allow the infrastructure to develop.

>>7139266

I was stating that the human brain is a computer which uses semantic-mirror (symbol) programing language. [Because it's true!]

Although, they do seem to have the technology to produce creatures that can traverse the ether without harm. Probably a golem-style of construction, these people seem particularly Qaballah Flavored.
Perhaps they could produce a ship of some kind, like the one Ra takes into the underworld!

Also, they must have had contact with the other factions at some point. And they *do* make reference to conflict with other psychopomps, presumably from other factions.

>>7139166
The Magus responds,
"The terminals are available in most public sectors- especially those in this sector- which is the Sector for Necromantic Affairs. It is here where all Neophytes are pulled from death, and also where death and the ether field are studied. There are several other sectors, available on the terminals. The terminals themselves are connected to Bythos."

"Bythos is a somewhat important entity I shall stop and explain. Each plane has a deity. But a deity is a distinct concept from a god. Gods once existed, but they were all slain long ago. So in a way, the atheists among you did have it right- sort of... in any case, a deity is nothing more than a reservoir of divine energy- that is, the energy we derive from our virtue, Truth. The general attitude among Gnostics towards divine energy is hostility, since it opens the potential for Gods and Archons- or more accurately demiurge. Hence, the attitude towards Bythos is somewhat hostile as well. We do not worship Bythos, as some worlds worship their deity- but we do use it in as much as the Silver Star deems safe. Bythos is embodied in the center of the city in a mainframe which expresses the divine energy as an AI which helps us organize our data and information with extreme efficiency. He is what works behind the terminals, but rest assured that there are an overly paranoid number of precautions to prevent Bythos from ascending to a full scale free-willed individual God."

>>7139318
Whilst informative, this still gives no indication as to how the terminals were actually built in the first place. I mean I assume they are magicomputery as opposed to outpourings of divine energy that can be used to display information.

From what, and how, were the structures that harness Bythos for practical purposes built?

>>7139341
Through the power of love. Duh. Anything else would be ridiculous.
/sarcasmoff

>>7139254
"I'm hearing some concern over the Tree of Life. First of all, let me assure you this only modifies your essence so as to eliminate aging and mundane diseases and defects. It will also accelerate healing, though not as much as the more potent versions we've found in other worlds I'm afraid. Second, it is merely technological, with a minor divine connection to our sustaining energy, Bythos. If you do not receive such a connection, your time here as a petitioner will be short and you'll fade right back out of existence. Third, you will still be very susceptible to being killed, particularly by our planar counterparts if you so anger them. And Fourth- it is mandatory, in as much as refusal will result in your quick and inevitable death. So, if we have that squared away- I'll open for one last round of questions and you can proceed out the back door for a quick injection, and be on your merry way."

>>7139384
>in as much as refusal will result in your quick and inevitable death.

I like this guy. Eh, threatens the main character and doesn't afraid of anything.

Is it possible for other factions to invade us? What sort of defenses do we have against invasion if this is so?
Also, archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/7137936/

>Eternal life
>Not sure if want...

>>7139254
>Regardless, I'm skeptical about this "Tree of Life" thing. How do we know it won't do something to us that they haven't told us? I certainly won't be volunteering to go first.

Going to have to agree with these guys. I'd certainly want to keep going for a good long time but for all eternity? I would want my existance to end eventually at a time of my choosing.

>>7139401
I think he meant that its mandatory because they might as well be threatening to kill you if you don't go for it, on account of the sheer likelyhood you will die if you don't.

Also, yes, enquire about the possibility of incursions from other planes.

>>7139401
I think he's referring to the fact that our existance here is very fragile, and we need the ToL to stay here more than a few hours.

>>7139441
He mentions that we can still die.

>>7139441
I suppose we could always step out into the ether if we want to die.

Well, I don't have anything else to ask. Anyone object to getting to the nearest Terminal and boning up on knowledge?

>>7139451
"This is correct. It supplements your divine connection and manifestation of this plane- in our case, through science enhanced by divinity."
>>7139341
"Curious one aren't you? That will serve you very well in this world. Our origins have a somewhat difficult to discern history, since our first denizens were not historians and did not keep good records. However, we are well versed not only the operations and technology available to the mortal realm but also the fluctuations being distant form the mortal realm affords us in subverting the laws of physics. The other planes call this arcane, and to avoid confusion we abandoned trying to explain to them it was merely aberrant laws of the fringes of the multiverse. In any case, we can use a variety of interesting methods to shape things to our will in the netherworld- which includes all faction's worlds- and we can utilize the energy of our deity in our homeworld to assist in the control of the design. It makes industry a somewhat effortless feat- but the economy of the netherworld is sustained by ideas and belief. It is for this resource all factions compete, and from this resource all creation springs."

>>7139442
"Incursion. Always good to know the political situation. The structure of the netherworld is a tesseract- each plane borders all others except its polar virtue. We are fairly new, evidently, in that our numbers have surged wildly- but time passes differently here, so it is difficult to tell how events in the mortal world have transpired, particularly since much of that worldly experience dissolves rather quickly from the reports of the recently deceased. However, the recent surge in the pursuit of truth has not only left us as the primary benefactor of technological knowledge but propelled us form idle and unimportant threat to planar superpower. It seems most planes want to ally with us and encourage us to attack their enemies, but on the whole it is unlikely any will make an offensive against us."

"That said, a great deal of our research occurs in the other planes. Whenever we suffer casualties, it is from some altercation or another on some other factions turf."

>>7139544
This explanation sort of begs the question of what exactly the factions accomplish through their competitions. Based upon your previous information it is the adherence of mortals, presumably the living ones, which provides this realm with belief in truth, and that resource is... set, or aspected, somehow towards truth as a concept. How could anyone else take it, or meaningfully make use of it, if they are dependent upon other concepts for the support of their realms?

>>7139544
So it's sort of a competition to see who can get the most souls to generate belief in one group's realm to keep it active? More belief give more power and energy to do things with? Interesting. Though clearly some souls are incompatible with certain groups.

>>7139606
This is all making Plan Supercollider ever more possible. If anyone could pull together a crack team of badasses, it would be MISTER SCIENCE!

>>7139620
"Correct. Some souls are outright incompatible, such as those of our competing virtue. Others are compatible with multiple virtues, though will generally have a prevailing virtue alignment. If you feel you have some other commitments to other virtues, rest assured that diplomacy and foreign relations is quite the heated field here in Utopia. After all, perhaps the defining principle of Utopia is it's allegedly perfect policy, but as of yet we dedicate ourselves only to the further collection of truth until we can determine what policy, and which virtues, are the ultimate reality for a perfect world."

>>7139665
Lets see what we can offer other planars to join us, eh?

Mercy - The chance to relieve the suffering of others
Justice - The chance to beat up bad guys
Power - Lewt and XPs
Freedom - Adventuran
Peace - The chance to bring peace to the world
Legend - The chance to forge a new legend
Truth - XPs and lewt
??? - ??????

>>7139671
Well, I guess we'd better get this injection thingy and start doing shit, eh?

>>7139749
Seems so.

>>7139749
"Very well then. Welcome to Utopia. And one more thing I should let you know, lest you fail to discover- all laws are in contention here, being researched in something of a political laboratory. What's legal is going to vary depending on which sector you are in, hence the abundance of terminals. But there is one law that is universal. Gnostics do not tell lies. Whatever you do, do it in the name of truth. It is not so much a law as a universally accepted taboo. If you find many of us to be rude, it is because some if not most take this so seriously as to avoid white lies. Lies outside of the city may find less scrutiny, but as long as you're here, muddling the truth will be strenuously frowned upon."

The metal doors slide open in the back, where some nurses are beckoning the initiates to enter. The lights brighten to indicate the lecture has ended, and people start to file into the back. Raiz starts shoving people out of his way so he can move through the crowd and get to the Tree of Life, leaving a small divide behind him if you wish to follow.

>>7139887
Go to the Tree, but not right next to Raiz. We are our own person, and have the need to make other affiliates. He is of dubious worth as such.

>>7139887
Follow Raiz. Ask him what he thinks about all this.

>>7139911
Very well. The crowd fills the gap between you and Raiz, and you eventually get stuck in line, filed through with the injection, and out a door to an open street plaza- a pedestrian street. Many of the Neophytes are starting to cluster and converse, but you realize as you near them that since you are no longer in the presence of Magus Kessler, language barriers are starting to reform. There are a plentiful number of terminal booths lining the plaza awaiting inquiry.

>>7139968
Inquire at a Terminal if there is any other way to bridge the language barriers, short of learning them. Some sort of device that emulates what Kessler did perhaps?

>>7140007
This is very important.

>>7140007
You realize that you can't read, and become somewhat confused. The terminal addresses you in Arabic,
"Welcome Sha'een. Please state your inquiry."
"..."
"Inquiry processed. The device Magus Kessler used was researched by the Center for FATE studies and the Center for Possibility studies Artificer Labs Inc. The device is privately manufactured and will require 20k credits to obtain. Your current balance is: 0 credits."

>>7140078
How do we acquire credits?

>>7140078
Inquire as to available methods for increasing credit balance. Free money- grants for new people, etc.- preferred, but loans or jobs are worth looking at as well.

Inquire also into the availability of other methods of translation.

Ah, so thats what he meant by leaving us to make our own way. A capitolist afterlife. I guess we are expected to find ways to serve the faction in order to get a wage. The faction gives no free rides and all that.

In fact it might well be that this is why people take so long to rise above Neophyte level: There are probably very few low-entry level jobs.

>>7140138
"Due to increased indefinite life-span and temporal distortion, Gnostics are expected to learn languages as part of their study versatility. Language training centers can be found at the center for Historical Records and Translation studies. However, you'll find many higher order Gnostics are polyglots and will likely be successful in navigating provided they are not of busy temper."

"To increase credit balance, one requires employment. Grants/investments are available based on merit applications. Skills one has from a prior life are essentially the only basis on which to apply for either entrepreneurship or employment. Whereas you lack literacy or linguistic aptitude, you may have difficulty finding research opportunities..."

"There is a high demand for field researchers. I'm required to tell you this is a paid advertisement, but all the same, they're generally ran by higher order members and polyglots and should be able to give you instructions personally and manage you from there. If you're interested, I can provide you with directions."

>>7140327
Our skillset includes a high level of computer and information system knowledge, as well as a great deal of familiarity with general scientific concepts and knowledge. Our references consist in their entirety of a complement made in passing by Magus Kessler. Are there any grants, loans, jobs, or other opportunities available based upon these, taking into account our current linguistic limitations?

Also, more detail on what "field research" consists of would be needed before we could seriously consider the position.

>>7140416
The machine eagerly responds to the latter inquiry first.
"Field research includes positions in areas of interest from the Center for Planar Studies. All research teams quickly become friends with one another, and all are provided with an escort from the Order of the Rose Cross even for the lowest risk missions. Exotic destinations could include but are not limited to- The Paradise of Eden! Fiddlers Green! Or the 1st Layer of Heaven Luna! Looking for more lucrative endeavors? Silver Star Orders are providing enormous funds for researchers interested in studying the Hellish city of Dis, or the battlefields near Valhalla! All excursions are optional, all paid well and provided with escorts sufficient to the task. Apply Today!"

>>7140578
Fascinating, really. And my first, and probably more important, question?

>>7140416
This.

"Curious. Your skill sets look useful but... incomplete. Information processing specialists are highly valued in the Central Core for Information, but a rigor in logic and math are often preferred, and those positions tend to be highly competitive and highly regarded.

"Scientific knowledge and research procedure is always a plus. This would make you excellently suited for field research, where no prior knowledge is required, but a strong scientific principled approach is helpful. There are lab tech positions available in the sectors of technology and arcane technology, though these are becoming largely replaced by automated laboratories."

"Magus Kessler is a very high profile figure, but also a very controversial one. His recommendation could hold some weight, but only if the employer respected his opinion in virtues and form."

>>7140578
Ha, sure, those are all places that we might be assigned to. What are the chances that we will be sent some place much less luxurious? One of the Circles of Hell perchance? Asgard during Ragnarok? A third really bad place that I can't think of right now? I'm guessing fairly high, compared to one of the planes of Heaven. Whatever Heaven is, anyway.

For my fellow players: I know that this is avoiding possibly incredible excitement, but I'd rather get a job in our own area before we go dashing out into the field. It's important to have a good sense of how one's own society works. Besides, the level of advertisement going on there makes me somewhat reluctant.

>>7140690
I am interested in hearing more about these lab tech positions. If we can get something to tide us over while we patch up our knowledge in mathematics and linguistics, we should be able to upgrade to a more lucrative job after a relatively brief time, correct?

>>7140816
That's fine by me. As my previous post may have implied, I'm not overly trusting of the field work to not get us killed. Having a desk job for a few years to get to know the place might be nice.

>>7140578
>Rose Cross
Why, HELLO.

I think this is somehow important, but I can't figure out why...HMM.

>>7140913
Nah, prolly just a coincidence. Let's focus on getting an entry level job for the time being.

>>7140816
"Certainly... processing your perceived aptitudes for optimal placement."

"The center for Technology: Planar War-craft Industries, Department of Mecha Engineering is looking for somebody to help design and program a user interface. It's a somewhat competitive offer, but not inconceivable for your skill set."

"The Center for Necromantic Studies: Animation Industries, Department of Golems- is looking for a liaison for psychic programming and have a perceived need for interns and may accept some upon request."

"Both of these industries are headed by Orders of the Silver Star and are likely to be Polyglots or have Polyglot technomagic."

"The Center for Biological Studies, Department of Planar Biology may be able to make use of your scientific concepts that lack math. The job description is something akin to zookeeper for captured specimens, but also to carry out research procedures too finessed for Templars."

"Finally, the center for Divination is looking for apprentices. There's a HIGH probability you will not be accepted as illiterate, but much of what they do does not require reading per se. It is conceivable you could fool your way through classes without doing the reading, but likely difficult, and could give you a negative reputation, since information is very well preserved here."

>>7141048
Hmm, let's not break the law and lie our way into an apprenticeship. I like the look of the first offer myself. Designing and programming a userface for a Mecha of some kind I could see us going very far in that field.

Mecha Engineering and Planar Biology sound like the best to me. Any thoughts, guys?

>>7141048
Please outline the recommended application procedure.


Also, please detail available resources for rapidly gaining ability in whatever the most commonly spoken languages are here while still holding down a job. This includes literacy. If we can recover writing abilities in our native language somewhere, that would be desirable as well but is a secondary concern to the main tounges.

>>7140913
((Not necessarily. Of the three orders, I just think they have the coolest name. This campaign has a story but is also very free range friendly. Proceed as you please /tg/. I'll not railroad you anymore than the IC high pressure salesmen.))

>>7141141
Reassuring.

>>7141134
Well, going with the Necromancy/Golem programming would give us the opportunity to prove that love can bloom between man and Golem, but I like designing giant war mechs better, so I vote for that.

>>7141134
"The center for Historical Records and Translation tends to cover this sort of thing. Classes are available at all hours, and reviews indicate their price is pretty indicative of their quality and speed of acquisition- though some depends on the student. There is a free language course offered by the Society of Mercy- though it will only teach one Hebrew. There is also a course in Latin at a heavily discounted rate, offered by the Society of Power."

>>7141134
Re: Application
There will be a hardware integration test, an interface programming test, and an interview to determine how effective one can implement user friendly technology. No other information is available.

>>7141220
And what is the most commonly spoken language in Utopia?

>>7141220
Please provide us with the pay rates of the prospective tech jobs listed, as compared to the costs of the language courses. Additionally, please provide information of cost of living here.

>>7141252
So will the application require literacy? If we are going to program, don't we need to know how to read and use the computer? Or is programming done differently here than in the mortal world?

I wouldn't be so quick to rule out the Necromantic studies offer though, we would be at least able to enter at an entry level as opposed to being thrust into something above our abilities. Also its in our current sector which may or may not be a boon depending on how you look at things.

Unfortunately indecision isn't something we have much time for, since the wagonload of souls we came in with are probably already starting to take in recruits.

I guess the benefits of each respective field are as follows:
Planar Mechatronics: Awesome, and theres a good chance that this one will keep us close enough to Raiz that we can keep in contact with him if desired, chances are he's likely to take up some kind of war related job.
Cons: Hard to get.

Animation Industries: Easiest to get into, semi-awesome, and not far from our present location, so very little chance of getting lost. Possibly its ease may allow us to freely investigate the rest of the region in what free time we have.
CONS: We won't discover as many new things about our present predicament by taking the job.

Planar Biology: Will provide us with a wealth of information about the state of things, how this afterworld works etc.
CONS: Only option with a non-negligible possibility of perishing in the line of duty.

>>7141357
I parsed "a perceived need for interns" as "they won't pay you shit", which kind of ruled out the Necromantic Studies job for me. That may or may not be the case, upon reflection.

I'm thinking that we should probably apply to multiple jobs, and if we somehow manage to score more than one back out of whichever we don't want as badly after getting a little more information on them.

>>7141409
Having a backup plan is never a bad thing. We should apply to all three jobs, if that's feasible.

>>7141260
"English primarily, but not too far behind are Russian, Chinese, Japanese, French, and German, in that order. Latin is something of a common language, but only for technical terms- which counts for quite a bit all the same here."
"English is in the highest demand. Demand for Russian has been decreasing while there's been an increase in demand for oriental languages. Quality is also a factor in determining price- propose a timeframe and a % of success to determine more accurate price ranges."

"Thanks to the Tree of Life, Cost of Living is essentially zero. You do not need to sleep, eat, breath, rest, bathe, or anything of this nature, though you may choose to if you so wish, and this will resume biological processes until you stop again. They're generally considered a luxury."

>>7141280
Mecha: 4k/month
Golems: Unknown, request at internship.
Zoology: 1.5k/month
Apprentice: 0k/month, but you learn divination and do not have to pay.
>>7141301
Seems java, c++, and a variety of other programming languages do not count among the languages you fail to understand. Only linguistic literacy seems to be effected. Even in Kuwait, you learn these in roman characters. You -might- have some trouble reading the questions though, if they're not administering the test orally.

>>7141462
Work work work, all day long. Are there days off? Time for relaxation?

For language: English, 6 months, 85% accuracy.

And can we get an idea on how much the jobs are ofering per-whatever as payment?

>>7141553
Ignore that last question.

>>7141546
Okay, we'd like to apply for the Mecha/UI Programming job, the Planar Biology/Zoology job, and to send a message to the Golems/Psychic Programming job inquiring as to if pay is available in any internship positions.

Let's get rolling.

Would now be a good place to stop? It's getting close to 5 and a half hours since we began.

>>7141700
I was rather hoping that we'd actually get a job before finishing off the night. We don't have that much progress to show for two threads.

>>7141700
Only 91 posts, d00d.

Nowhere near out of gas.

>>7141553
1400/month to learn English at that rate.
>>7141650
((sorry elegan/tg/entleman, but it appears it's light's out now- and I'd like to resolve this outcome so I know what to plan next. I'll roll your skills as I estimate them- COS, DIP, etc, and let you know the results where you can choose where you want to gain employment, and I'll be back later with more.))

>>7141705
>>7141708
Okay.

Golem internship is in the same sector as you so I rolled it first. Magus Kessler is actually affiliated with the program so his recommendation helped, though psychic experience of powers were greatly preferred. Still, you managed to talk yourself into at least getting the job if you want it- only 800/month though, but you'll get first hand training in psionics and necromancy (though you won't necessarily learn how to use these things).

>>7141750
Go on.

Ouch. Completely and utterly failed the biology job interview. They weren't impressed at all by Kessler's recommendation, the project was not ran by a SS order and he knew only limited arabic, and your skills otherwise did not come across at all. No dice on this job.

>>7141764
Please fudge the mecha thing so we get in no matter what.

Magus Kessler seemed fairly popular at the Mecha Industry. They were very impressed by your performance on the two exams, although your illiteracy did not escape their notice, and unfortunately they are really hesitant to hire an illiterate to work on their mecha. Still, they're waffling on whether they should reject you. If you can convince me as to why you should receive a circumstance bonus during the interview, I can make this an option.

>>7141806
We don't need to read, we just need to program.

>>7141806
We can inform them that one of our main priorities is to learn whatever language would prove most useful in our workplace, and that we'll be immediately enrolling in a class to learn reading and writing in whatever language they recommend to shore up our most glaring weakness.

>>7141806
Well, we do have extensive knowledge in the area in question (programming, computing, etc.) and with the 4k a month, we could easily afford some top-notch literacy training in the language of our choice. So while we might not be literate right now, we will be within a few months.

Unless anon doesn't want to spend out money on becoming literate, though I've not seen any posts indicative of that viewpoint.

>>7141863
Don't be silly. If we don't learn to read, we won't be able to waste all our spare time on Utopia's implementation of 4chan.

>>7141882
>Utopian 4chan
But it's illegal to lie in Utopi-

...

That would just make things worse, wouldn't it.

>>7141893
In Utopia, trolling is serious business.

>>7141882
>>7141893
I'm reminded of Guliver's Travels where he encounters a species that has never known war or intentional violence. As I recall, he decided to leave them without telling them bout it.

We are Guliver. Utopia is that species.

>>7141806
Sorry gentlemen, but the correct answer was "wouldn't hiring a simpleton be the best choice to design user friendly technology interfaces?"

Maybe you can try again for this position when you can read German, Russian, or Japanese. But for now, work in a Golem factory won't be so bad. It's not like you're Sizemore (bottom right)-
http://www.erfworld.com/book-1-archive/?px=%2F013.jpg

Anyway, with that I bid you goodnight. Hope you'll be around next time!

>>7141954
We're not a simpleton, so that logic wouldn't actually have gotten us any closer to getting the job.

>>7141954
Tch, dem's the breaks. See you around OP.