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    30 KB new alignment chart Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:26 No.6790157  
    Gentleman<---->Hooligan
    Dapper<----->Scruffy
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:27 No.6790168
    brb, using this
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:28 No.6790177
    That's not alignment, that's more of a sliding stat kinda thing.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:28 No.6790180
    >>6790157
    Gentleman<---->Hooligan
    Dapper<----->Gutter trash
    fix'd
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:30 No.6790198
    Nondescript = Neutral?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:30 No.6790199
    OP's picture is the best character in a fighting game ever.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:30 No.6790204
    >>6790157
    I'm okey with this.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:31 No.6790212
    >>6790180
    wrong, can be a scruffy gentleman, can not be a gutter trash gentleman
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:32 No.6790220
    Dapper Gentleman vs Scruffy Hooligan

    True Dapper

    True Scruffy

    Dapper Hooligan

    Scruffy Gentleman

    hmmm, I like this
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:36 No.6790283
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    Dapper Hooligan
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:38 No.6790305
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    Scruffy Dood
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:41 No.6790332
    dapper hooligan is pretty much the best

    was anyone there for the hidden weapon thread where the OP picture was a guy with daggers up his sleeves and a sparkle on his god damn mustache
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:41 No.6790334
    this... makes more sense than the D&D chart
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:46 No.6790375
    A Paladin must always be a gentleman
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:47 No.6790383
    what's an example of a scruffy gentleman then?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:47 No.6790384
    >>6790375

    but not necessarily Dapper...

    holy fuck OP you did it
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:50 No.6790417
    >>6790375

    jesus christ, that's the best guideline for what makes a Paladin I've ever seen, and it's just one sentence.

    Sure, he can be scruffy, but he's still a gentleman at heart.

    But the moment a Paladin loses his gentlemanly virtue, when he has no dignity, is when his light turns to darkness, and he falls to hooliganism.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:52 No.6790430
    A barbarian must always be scruffy
    >> Sorborne !YnWxsBMuGw 11/20/09(Fri)14:52 No.6790432
    Ok, cool, I'm rolling a Dapper Hooligan Wizard.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:53 No.6790445
    >>6790383
    Lincoln
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:55 No.6790455
    My Eladrin wizard so far has been True Dapper. He won't go out of his way to do gentlemanly things, nor would he stoop to hooliganism, but he always maintains his airs and the status of his family is foremost in his mind.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:55 No.6790468
    This...this is amazing.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:56 No.6790469
    >>6790445

    Lincoln, the scruffy gentleman

    ...
    shit that's way more descriptive and yet flexible than "chaotic gud"...
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:56 No.6790471
    >>6790383
    A scruffy gentleman is someone who doesn't LOOK good all the time, but is a gentleman on the inside.

    Gentleman <-----> Hooligan is what you are on the INSIDE
    Dapper <-----> Scruffy is what you appear to be on the OUTSIDE
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:56 No.6790474
    >>6790157
    Conan, King of Cimmeria: Dapper Hooligan or Scruffy Gentleman?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:57 No.6790481
    >>6790474
    True Scruffy
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)14:58 No.6790498
    >>6790474

    Scruffy Gentleman, he has a good heart and treats people the way they deserve to be.

    Conan hates Dapper Hooligans (aka thosefuckingwizards) the most.

    He has a quote about how many "civilized" people are in fact quite rude, as they act in a manner that amongst "barbarians", would earn them an axe through the head. They use being Dapper as an excuse to be Hooligans, while amongst the Scruffy folk one must act like a gentleman to earn respect.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:00 No.6790517
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    My Lunar Full Moon is True Scruffy
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:01 No.6790522
    I think this would also work well for dragon colours.

    In fact, this is possibly the most accurate alignment theory I've seen in general.

    Next game I run will include GHDS (for lack of a better term) for most characters, and GELN for outsiders/magical creatures.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:02 No.6790538
    Personally I prefer Planescape Deluxe:
    Chaotic -> Uncaring -> Lawful (How you act)
    Evil -> Neutral -> Good (Your ego)
    Mean -> Indifferent -> Nice (How others perceive you)
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:03 No.6790548
    I always run Dapper Hooligans
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:05 No.6790562
    >>6790517
    Oh wait, I was wrong. She's Scruffy Gentleman. She hates bullies and tyrants and shit and enjoys challenging them to duels of HONOUR
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:09 No.6790592
    >>6790157

    "A punching bag that can bleed is not a suitable rival for me."
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:12 No.6790629
    This is beautiful. I will never use the old system again.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:12 No.6790633
    I approve.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:18 No.6790703
    >>6790157

    We need a drawfag and all examples should be in steampunk
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:21 No.6790736
    Dapper Gentleman > Passable Gentleman > Scruffy Gentleman
    Dapper Fellow > Passable Fellow > Scruffy Fellow
    Dapper Hooligan > Passable Hooligan > Scruffy Hooligan
    >> Hollow Rectangular Prism Girl !!+yWNzwdglw/ 11/20/09(Fri)15:22 No.6790753
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    "Protection from Hooligans"
    "Detect Hooligans"
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:26 No.6790804
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    >>6790481True Scruffy
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:26 No.6790812
    >>6790753
    "Smite Scruffy"
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:27 No.6790821
    >>6790522I think this would also work well for dragon colours.


    a gentleman dragon sounds pretty awesome

    a hooligan dragon sounds like a 100ton gold hoarding douche
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:28 No.6790833
    Neutral Gentleman here.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:29 No.6790841
    True Scruffy here
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:29 No.6790842
    >>6790833

    Nondescript Gentleman.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:30 No.6790844
    >>6790417But the moment a Paladin loses his gentlemanly virtue, when he has no dignity, is when his light turns to darkness, and he falls to hooliganism.


    Grey Guard are nothing but dapper hooligans they are.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:30 No.6790847
    WHY DOES THIS WORK SO WELL?!?!?!?

    ;_; tears of joy
    >> Leman Russ 11/20/09(Fri)15:30 No.6790856
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    >>6790821
    A hooligan dragon wears its loot in the form of bling.

    This weighs it down mightily, yet provides formidable armor plating.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:31 No.6790864
    someone archive this with a name we would recognize for fast future consulting
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:32 No.6790880
    >>6790864

    It's already up. Tried to archive it around the same time whoever did the current one did, and apparently suptg'll only archive a given thread once, so we're stuck with the name it's under now.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:33 No.6790896
    >>6790880

    That was me. I think I hit the salient tag.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:33 No.6790899
    Scruffy Gentleman, all the way
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:34 No.6790903
    >>6790856

    Like a certain one-winged Dragon?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:35 No.6790909
    >>6790903

    Oh god, please no.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:35 No.6790913
    >>6790896

    You would have, had you spelled it right.
    >> OP here 11/20/09(Fri)15:35 No.6790917
    >>6790864

    Roleplay Like A Gentleman

    Roleplay with Dignity

    something like that.

    (I also wrote the Last Orderly a long while ago, if that thing was archived)
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:36 No.6790924
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    >>6790383
    This man right here.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:37 No.6790931
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    True Dapper
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:40 No.6790953
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    It seems perfect, other than what do we call True Neutral? Do we stay with TN or do we use Nondescript or Fellow?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:42 No.6790974
    >>6790953
    I rather like Fellow.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:42 No.6790976
    >>6790953
    There is no True Neutral.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:44 No.6791002
    >>6790974
    I second the support for Fellow.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:44 No.6791004
    >>6790953
    >>6790974
    >>6791002
    samefag
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:45 No.6791005
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    /TG/, you've done it again!
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:46 No.6791013
    Nondescript Fellow, Passable Fellow, or True Fellow?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:49 No.6791028
    >>6790157
    Dapper Hooligan get.
    >> OP here 11/20/09(Fri)15:49 No.6791030
    True Neutral- Fellow is good

    "That fellow over there"
    "a friendly fellow"
    "dangerous fellows"

    "Neither a gentleman nor a hooligan, he was an odd fellow"
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:50 No.6791045
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    Scruffy Gentleman
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:52 No.6791063
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    Scuffy Hooligan here
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:54 No.6791078
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    >>6790199
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:54 No.6791084
    True Scruffy represen- eh, why bother.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:56 No.6791102
    MY GOD /TG/, WE SOLVED THE ALIGNMENT EQUATION
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:57 No.6791112
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    Someone had to do it.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:58 No.6791124
    >>6791112
    nobody wants your fail motivators, you hooligan
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)15:58 No.6791131
    So, what's Neutral on the Gentleman/Hooligan, and what's Neutral on the Dapper/Scruffy?

    I believe Gentleman/Fellow/Hooligan was decided.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:00 No.6791144
    I vote for nondescript and fellow
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:00 No.6791145
    >>6791131
    Perhaps "Tidy". Not in style, but at least he's clean.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:00 No.6791148
    >>6791131

    I'd still use neutral just so it still sounds like allignment.

    Neutral Scruffy
    Neutral Dapper
    Hooligan Neutral
    Gentleman Neutral
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:03 No.6791176
    I like "Plain" and "Citizen" for both Neutrals.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:03 No.6791180
    >>6791176
    But Plain is on the Dapper/Scruffy axis.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:04 No.6791184
    >>6791148
    Dapper Gentleman, Plain Gentleman, Scruffy Gentleman
    Dapper Fellow, Fellow, Scruffy Fellow
    Dapper Hooligan, Plain Hooligan, Scruffy Hooligan
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:05 No.6791207
    >>6791148
    Nah.

    >>6791176
    >>6791145
    "Plain" and "Tidy" aren't bad. "Tidy" is almost too flavorful for a neutral term, but at least it has the same "feel" as the other terms.

    What were the others, nondescript and passable? Not a fan of nondescript.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:06 No.6791210
    I have to vote Fellow for Neutral. Makes it conversational.
    "Oh, dear, look at that Scruffy Fellow over there!"
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:06 No.6791212
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    scruffy hooligan
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:06 No.6791217
    >>6791184

    This looks good enough to me.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:08 No.6791226
    The funny thing is that Batman is STILL all alignments in this one.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:09 No.6791245
    >>6790953
    >>6791013
    >>6791030

    there is no Neutral, because this alignment system isn't a ham-handed attempt to lump a given character into a rigidly-defined, black-and-white trope, and most importantly, it's not an indicator of morality or lack thereof.

    it is simply:

    Dapper/Scruffy - How you appear to others.
    Gentleman/Hooligan - How your actions appear to others.

    there is no Neutral, only degrees of Gentleman/Hooligan and Dapper/Scruffy.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:10 No.6791251
    So-o-o, where does Vladimir Putin fits in this chart? 'cause i need to know it for my next campaign.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:10 No.6791258
    >>6791226

    Superb.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:11 No.6791266
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    Scruffy Gentleman
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:11 No.6791267
    Now we need anime characters for all nine so we can start on a poster.

    Actually, steampunk or weird-victorian characters would probably be better if we could find enough. I'm thinking League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

    Would Sean Connery's Allan Quartermain be a Plain Gentleman?

    Dorian Grey as a Dapper Hooligan?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:13 No.6791282
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    >>6791251

    Dapper Hooligan
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:13 No.6791283
    >>6791267
    are we going with the movie or the comic?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:14 No.6791296
    THe trick is not to conflate gentleman/hooligan with good/evil/chaos/law

    Gentleman act properly and are easy to respect. Hooligans act without regard and laugh at your expectations.

    Okay, there's a little law/chaos in there, but it's still not the same. Gentlemen can be dicks.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:16 No.6791314
    >>6791283

    I was thinking movie (recognizability is important).

    I wasn't aware that Sean Connery was in the comic.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:16 No.6791315
    This is... astonishing. I'll be using it as soon as I get the oppurtunity!
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:17 No.6791319
    Dapper Gentleman - Dapper Fellow - Dapper Hooligan
    Gentlemanly Fellow - [does not exist] - Hooligan Fellow
    Scruffy Gentleman - Scruffy Fellow - Scruffy Hooligan
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:17 No.6791321
    Holy shit, /tg/... this is amazing.

    Where do you keep these gems archived?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:17 No.6791323
    >>6791282
    >Scruffy Gentleman
    Fixed for you.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:17 No.6791329
    >>6791267

    HAY GAIS DIS A KEWL NEW ALIGNMENT SYSTEM

    BUT LET'S JUST MAP IT ONTO THE BROKEN AND SHITTY D&D ONE ANYWAYS

    IT'S COOL BECAUSE WE'VE TAKEN INNOVATION AND TURNED IT INTO THE SAME SHIT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD.

    /tg/ CAN TAKE ANYTHING AND TURN IT INTO THE EXACT SAME SHIT IT'S ALWAYS HAD.

    AMAZING.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:19 No.6791346
    >>6791323
    he always looks awesome and is a dick
    how is he not dapper hooligan
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:20 No.6791348
    How is a Dapper Fellow different? Is he just a regular guy who's nicely dressed?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:20 No.6791349
    >>6791323

    >Gentleman
    >Politician

    Yeah, no.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:20 No.6791351
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    >>6791329
    I'm sorry, but I can't hear you over your capital letters, could you please post your complaint in a less scruffy manner, you hooligan?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:20 No.6791353
    >>6791323
    Are you trying to say Putin is Scruffy?
    What the fuck, man.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:21 No.6791362
    >>6791351
    told
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:24 No.6791387
    >>6791329
    read this posts
    >>6791030
    >>6791245
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:25 No.6791409
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    >>6791353
    I... uh... er...

    I think Putin is a Gentleman Hooligan.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:25 No.6791411
    >>6791245
    >>6791329

    If you are wondering why everyone ignores you, there are three reasons.

    1.) Alternate alignments are a longstanding tradition on /tg/. Modeling them after D&D alignments is half the fun. It's a fun diversion, and an entertaining mockery of the existing alignment system (and alignment debates).
    2.) You're taking this way too seriously. Alternate alignments have virtually no applications in an actual game, but they're an awesome thought experiment. And see above- apparently, the fact that we are satirizing D&D alignments has gone completely over your head
    3.) Even if we were taking this seriously, your criticisms would be silly. A fluid scale from "dapper" to "scruffy" still wouldn't be nuanced enough to accurately describe most characters. Furthermore, by being fuzzy, it wouldn't be useful as a broad label either.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:26 No.6791418
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    a scruffy hooligan is only concerned with his FIGHT MONEY and getting PAID
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:28 No.6791428
    >>6791349
    See
    >>6791296
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:29 No.6791443
    >>6791319

    By removing the middle, you've turned the alignment grid into an alignment pie, where all the alignments are tangental to all other alignments (converging in the middle).

    Why would you do this?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:30 No.6791459
    What about "unassuming" for the neutral style?

    Dapper Gentleman > Unassuming Gentlemen > Scruffy Gentleman
    Dapper Fellow > Unassuming Fellow > Scruffy Fellow
    Dapper Hooligan > Unassuming Hooligan > Scruffy Hooligan
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:31 No.6791464
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    >>6791296Okay, there's a little law/chaos in there, but it's still not the same. Gentlemen can be dicks.

    well, actually I figure that "a gentleman who is a dick" would be more of a "Dapper Hooligan"

    he appears to be straight laced and proper, but is deep down motivated by hooligan ambitions, stooping to methods a gentleman would not go to.

    Basically Dudley= The Dapper Gentleman
    If Dudley wouldn't do it, it is ungentlemanly.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:32 No.6791468
    >>6791459

    Hm. I don't know how accurate it is but it has a very nice ring to it.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:33 No.6791477
    >>6790375A Paladin must always be a gentleman

    for some reason, I teared up reading that line
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:33 No.6791484
    >>6791468

    Well, it's a synonym for "plain", and it's a style word...
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:33 No.6791486
    >>6791464
    Er... well... y'know... Dudley always came across as a bit of a douche to me. :V
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:34 No.6791497
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    instead of Smite Evil

    it's Whup Hooligans
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:36 No.6791521
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    >>6791464

    I don't think that's what "gentleman" means at all. Gentlemen aren't always nice. You can be both scruffy and malicious and still act like a gentleman.

    And "hot-blooded" anime heroes are undisputably hooligans.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:37 No.6791531
    >>6791497

    Wallop, surely?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:37 No.6791532
    >>6791521
    Are you trying to claim that Kamina was a scruffy hooligan?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:38 No.6791539
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    This is easily the best alignment system I've seen... EVER.

    If I ever do the Victorian Exalted game, I'm going to find a way to houserule this in.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:40 No.6791559
    Best alignment thread I've ever seen.
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    I am so very, very okay with this new alignment system. I may now make a retro/SotC/steampunk game just to use this.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:41 No.6791583
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    >>6791532
    >Scruffy

    You really think so?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:42 No.6791585
    >>6791532 not that guy
    Yes, he was.
    >> OP here 11/20/09(Fri)16:42 No.6791587
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    >>6791521I don't think that's what "gentleman" means at all. Gentlemen aren't always nice. You can be both scruffy and malicious and still act like a gentleman.

    that is a Dapper Hooligan. The airs of being proper and refined, but in their hearts they are hooligans.

    Hot Blooded anime heroes like Yusuke are Scruffy Gentleman. They don't care about how they appear to others when they do the Right thing (beating up hooligans, saving a kid, teasing the girl they like, etc.)

    again, basically Dudley is the cornerstone and Paragon of the Gentleman for this alignment chart.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:42 No.6791593
    >>6791583
    Kamina is surprisingly dapper given his origins, but his lack of refinement and proper manners make him Passable at best.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:43 No.6791600
    >>6791532

    think about it, bro.

    he runs around with no shirt on, screaming about manliness at the top of his lungs, picking fights absolutely everywhere.

    he is a Scruffy Hooligan, and he is still a great guy.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:44 No.6791623
    >>6791532
    I wouldn't call him scruffy as such. Not dapper either, but the neutral alignment which we can't really agree on a name for.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:44 No.6791624
    >>6791600
    I vote True Hooligan.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:45 No.6791632
    >>6791600
    Hm~! We seem to have hit on a key point of contention here. Gentlemen and Hooligan are not merely swap-outs for Good and Evil! Because of the more nuanced origins, it is possible to be a good-aligned hooligan (if rare)! Evil Gentlemen, however, would be exceedingly rare - the only one I could think of right off the top of my head would be Doctor Doom!
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:45 No.6791634
    >>6790157
    I love you so hard, OP.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:45 No.6791635
    >>6791587

    No, that's wrong. The difference between a gentleman and a hooligan is all in behavior. Their habbits may run bone-deep, but what is "In the heart" has nothing to do with being a gentleman.

    Dapper/scruffy has to do with style and appearance only. Nothing to do with behavior (excluding grooming habits, of course).
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:46 No.6791643
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    Dapper Gentleman
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:47 No.6791649
    Kamina didn't wear a shirt.
    He was not Dapper.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:47 No.6791656
    >>6791600
    Y-Axis of Virtuosity?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:47 No.6791665
    >>6791632

    Most James Bond villains (Hell, most James Bond-era villains) are gentlemen.

    They go to lengths of propriety which are completely unnecessary, but vital to their dignity and self-import.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:48 No.6791681
    >>6791665

    And defeat. A Scruffy Hooligan would be more successful.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:49 No.6791684
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    >>6791649Kamina didn't wear a shirt.

    clothing is not what makes a man dapper!!
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:50 No.6791692
    >>6791656
    >>6791600

    "Good/evil" and "nice/dickish" are their own systems which we don't have to touch on here.

    For what it's worth, though, I would argue that kamina is a Manly Badass Lawful Good True Hooligan.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:50 No.6791693
    >>6791684
    Well played.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:50 No.6791698
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    Dapper Hooligan?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:52 No.6791711
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    >>6791649Kamina didn't wear a shirt.


    are you saying Armstrong is not a dapper man?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:52 No.6791717
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    Scruffy Hooligan or Plain Hooligan?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:52 No.6791718
    >>6791351

    Very well.

    All of the posters here attempting to take this elegantly simple new alignment system and map it onto the outdated, oft-ridiculed, and largely inaccurate 9-block D&D alignments are missing the point. There ISN'T a Neutral category, because Gentleman/Hooligan and Dapper/Scruffy aren't indicators of who you ARE, but merely who you APPEAR to be. They're not Moral categories, they're Social categories, which, in my opinion, is the most interesting part. They label a character based on what he/she Does, and not on what they Should do/Would Do.

    Gentleman/Hooligan is how your actions are perceived by yourself and others - it's your reputation. It's what your character has done, and what others will use to predict your actions in the future. Nobody is "Neutral" because everybody has a pattern of behavior, a past, and things they've done in that past. If you are "Neutral," then I'd like to see your character sheet which discusses how you sat in a darkened, locked room your entire life and did nothing.

    Dapper/Scruffy is very literally how you look and act in front of others. Yes, people can look "forgettable" or otherwise unremarkable, but this determination can only be applied in relation to other people. A character who looks "nondescript" might look very dapper when placed next to a stinking hobo, just as the most well-heeled raconteur would look downright shabby when placed next to a King.

    tl:dr - This alignment system is relativistic, intuitive, and applies to fluid Social perception. D&D's system is absolute, hierarchical, and applies to inflexible Moral perception. Don't try to mix them, they have nothing in common.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:53 No.6791727
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    >>6791711

    Now THA'S wha' ah call a MANLY MAN.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:53 No.6791730
    >>6791665
    This man has an interesting point. The Bond villain's level of devotion to his intricate plans and (usually) proper conduct transcends "Dapper," in my opinion. But, at the same time, they're doing it with the intent of ruling the world.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:55 No.6791753
    >>6791727

    Scruffy Gentleman
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:55 No.6791758
    >>6791717
    Plan Gentleman. He's offensive and crude, but he helps people and keeps coming back for more. Everyone else sees the good in him, even if he doesn't.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:57 No.6791775
    If I wanted one end of a chart to be "scrappy" what do you feel would be a good opposite? Docile?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:57 No.6791777
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    Dapper hooligan
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:57 No.6791778
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    >>6791753

    SCRUFFEH?

    ...Well, alrigh', ah suppose the rigors o' travel have worn a bi' at my appearance...
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:57 No.6791779
    >>6791775

    'kept'
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:57 No.6791780
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    >>6791718
    You make an excellent point my good man.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:58 No.6791788
    >>6791718
    Please see
    >>6791411

    Then explain to me how the presence of a neutral category has ANYTHING to do with appearance verses morality or objective verses relative.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:58 No.6791791
    >>6791758
    But whether he's good or not is irrelevant, it's the beauty of OP's system. He acts like a dick, which makes him a Hooligan. He looks scruffy, but could be much scruffier, hence why it could be plain.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:59 No.6791797
    Trying to add titles (as in the standard alignments):

    ---

    Dapper Gentleman:

    Unassuming Gentleman: "Humble"

    Scruffy Gentleman:

    Dapper Fellow: "Debonair"

    Unassuming Fellow:

    Scruffy Fellow: "Vagrant"

    Dapper Hooligan:

    Unassuming Hooligan: "Miscreant"

    Scruffy Hooligan:

    ---

    Thoughts, /tg/?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:59 No.6791798
    >>6791718
    No.

    Neutral applies for those situations we can't adjudicate(Kamina's scrappy-v-dapperness). Simply put: Your opinion isn't better than everyone else's.

    As to neutral in Scrappy v Dapper: I propose Plain.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)16:59 No.6791800
    >>6791684

    the shirtlessness is countered by the elegant moustache and the fact that he is usually in full uniform.

    Kamina accentuated his shirtlessness with wild tattoos and unnecessary bandages. he dug that cloak up from a grave and never bothered to wash it.

    Kamina is Scruffy.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:00 No.6791808
    I like this because it has no real "good" or "evil", just how you get shit done, and how you act to get things done.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:03 No.6791837
    >>6791797
    I like it so far
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    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:03 No.6791846
    >>6791718

    You have some deeply flawed notions of what D&D alignments are and how they work.

    It's tempting to correct you, but frankly, I don't want to talk about D&D alignments. This thread is cooler without them. Taking neat new ideas and mapping them to a 9-point grid is how alignment threads work; if you don't like this (or if, for some screw reason, you think that a 9-point grid is more restrictive than a 4-point grid), then go away.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:04 No.6791851
    >>6791843

    Only faggots use 4chanarchive. Go to suptg.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:06 No.6791878
    Should "Dapper" be a broad term which applies to any genre-appropriate stylishness, or does it always indicate finely-tailored suits and mustaches?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:07 No.6791883
    >>6791797

    Dapper Gentleman: "Esquire"

    Dapper Hooligan: "Bastard"
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:07 No.6791893
    Huh...Never imagined I'd meet an alignment system I liked this much.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:07 No.6791894
    Dapper Hooligan: Villain? Scoundrel?
    Scruffy Hooligan: Ruffian.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:07 No.6791896
    >>6791878

    I think it needs to be conservative stylishness; nothing wild or punkish.

    Kamina is a very stylish fellow, but dapper he aint.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:08 No.6791905
    Dapper Hooligan = Knave
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:09 No.6791907
    >>6791878
    I would say genre-appropriate.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:10 No.6791931
    >>6790375A Paladin must always be a gentleman

    damn
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:10 No.6791934
    Seconding Ruffian for scruffy hooligan
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:10 No.6791937
    >>6791788
    >Then explain to me how the presence of a neutral category has ANYTHING to do with appearance verses morality or objective verses relative.

    it doesn't. there IS NO "moral" category in this new alignment system, and THAT is the beauty of it. Gentleman/Hooligan and Dapper/Scruffy aren't indicators of whether or not your character is Good/Neutral/Evil at all, they are merely indicators of how your actions are perceived by society at large. as such, a "Neutral" category is redundant and confusing, as it implies (falsely) that Gentleman = Lawful and Hooligan = Chaotic.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:11 No.6791946
    >>6791937

    No it doesn't. You're wrong. It's that simple.

    "Neutral" indicates a mid-way point between ANY two extremes.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:12 No.6791952
    >>6791937
    You need provision for characters that are genuinely nondescript.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:14 No.6791966
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    True fellow? Or is it just fellow?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:15 No.6791973
    >>6791966
    Scruffy Fellow, Fry is a slob.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:15 No.6791982
    >>6791937

    I do think there is cause for a neutral category, though.

    there's always those folks who aren't particularly dapper or scruffy, just sort of casual.

    and not everyone will go out of their way to be polite and proper or abrasive and brash, they just go about their business.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:15 No.6791984
    >>6791937

    Not really. There are people in the world who are neither gentlemen nor hooligans. Therefore, we use the neutral-sounding word "fellow" to apply to them. I myself know a number of people who cannot be called gentlemen, but can neither safely be called hooligans. Similarly, I know a great many people who's apparel isn't dapper at all, but they aren't shabbily dressed. Therefore, we need a descriptor for those individuals who fit in neither category. I don't see how you automatically equate neutrality with morality.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:15 No.6791986
    "Cad" or "Bounder" for Dapper Hooligan?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:17 No.6791996
    >>6791986

    Cad or Knave, I should think. Bounder sounds a bit too scruffy.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:19 No.6792021
    >>6791797

    Dapper Gentleman: "Impeccable"

    Unassuming Gentleman: "Humble"

    Scruffy Gentleman: "Dishevelled"

    Dapper Fellow: "Debonair"

    Unassuming Fellow: "Decent"

    Scruffy Fellow: "Vagrant"

    Dapper Hooligan: "Knave"

    Unassuming Hooligan: "Miscreant"

    Scruffy Hooligan: "Despicable"
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:20 No.6792030
    >>6792021
    perhaps "Rake" rather than "Knave"?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:20 No.6792031
    >>6792021

    That's open to suggestions, as always.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:21 No.6792032
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    >>6791937as such, a "Neutral" category is redundant and confusing, as it implies (falsely) that Gentleman = Lawful and Hooligan = Chaotic.

    Hey, OP here (I dunno how much my opinion really matters, as this thread is a product of /tg/ now), I like having a neutral category, and pretty much intended it.

    so a pure Gentlemen, a pure Hooligan
    a purely Dapper person, and a purely Scruffy person are all possible.

    along with a Fellow who does not lean strongly towards any of those directions.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:21 No.6792038
    >>6791946

    Gentleman/Hooligan and Dapper/Scruffy AREN'T EXTREMES. they're GRADIENTS. this is what I've been trying to argue. stop trying to define a character by his alignment. an alignment is just a jumping-off point - you ROLE-PLAYING is what actually defines your character. the central concept of your argument, that alignments are all-or-nothing, defined strictly by Aristotelian logic, is wrong. that is what i am saying.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:21 No.6792041
    >>6792021
    Impeccable and despicable dont sound right to me
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:23 No.6792063
    >>6792038Gentleman/Hooligan and Dapper/Scruffy AREN'T EXTREMES. they're GRADIENTS

    so then the Fellow (neutral) position is an indicator that the person is TOWARDS THE MIDDLE OF THE GRADIENT
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:23 No.6792065
    I CAST SMITE HOOLIGAN
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:23 No.6792069
    >>6792041

    Well, >>6791894 said "ruffian" - how about that?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:24 No.6792072
    >>6792065WHUP HOOLIGAN

    >>6791497
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:24 No.6792078
    >>6792069
    I kinda like that
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:26 No.6792096
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    Dapper Hooligan?
    >> OP here 11/20/09(Fri)17:27 No.6792118
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    think I shoulda put Gentleman<--->Vagabond

    instead of hooligan. Hooligan is pretty much purely a negative connotation

    Vagabond is more neutral, and heroes can be vagabonds.

    <-- Dapper Gentleman, Scruffy Hooligan, and (cute) Fellow
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:28 No.6792126
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    >>6791583

    I'm pretty sure dressing like a delinquent is not considered dapper.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:30 No.6792148
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    Scruffy Gentleman, Dapper Vagabond, Dapper Vagabond, Scruffy Fellow, dog.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:30 No.6792152
    >>6792118
    vagabond implies the person is itinerant though, hooligan does no such thing
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:30 No.6792160
    >>6792152
    it doesn't just imply that, that's what it means
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:31 No.6792161
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    Let's fight like gentlemen.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:31 No.6792162
    >>6792118
    >>6792148
    Hooligan sounds much better than vagabond if you ask me.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:32 No.6792171
    I like the sound of the Dapper Hooligan. Would that be something like Alex DeLarge?

    ..This is a good aligment system..but what about girls?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:32 No.6792179
    >>6792162

    Agreed.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:33 No.6792183
    >>6792152

    but then hooligan has the moral judgement of a bad person. football hooligans, hooligan gangs, Hooliganism.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:33 No.6792185
    >>6792148
    >Ed
    >Fellow

    ..Ummmmm
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:34 No.6792192
    Dapper Gentleman: "Impeccable" < "Upright"?

    Unassuming Gentleman: "Humble"

    Scruffy Gentleman: "Dishevelled"

    Dapper Fellow: "Debonair"

    Unassuming Fellow: "Decent"

    Scruffy Fellow: "Vagrant"

    Dapper Hooligan: "Knave"

    Unassuming Hooligan: "Miscreant"

    Scruffy Hooligan: "Ruffian"
    >> RAWK LAWBSTAR 11/20/09(Fri)17:35 No.6792193
    >>6792171
    I was going to ask that myself

    and hooligan does sound better, I think of the difference between a gentlemen and a hooligan as the former being subtle with their actions and the later being obvious with their actions
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:35 No.6792198
    >>6792179
    agreed
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:35 No.6792206
    >>6792126

    pos tmoar of bancho cmoic plz
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:36 No.6792209
    >>6792171
    How about:
    Lady <-> Bitch
    Classy <-> Tacky /styleless
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:36 No.6792214
    >>6792192
    Upright is right on
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:37 No.6792223
    >>6792193

    That sort of style kinda flows with the titles that are being assigned - the upper portion of the "alignments" are all modifying a description, whereas the lower portion are just flat-out descriptions.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:38 No.6792237
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    Dapper Hooligan.

    You can dress nicely and be a douche
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:40 No.6792254
    Seriously, I don't think ladies should be brought into this alignment system.
    And I would prefer they not be brought up more before this system is 'finished', though of course I won't stop you from going on with it.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:40 No.6792257
    >>6792209
    ahahaha
    I could see that in game
    What the... YOU UNASSUMING BITCH!!
    >> Blackheart !!FYEhWpAirtN 11/20/09(Fri)17:42 No.6792268
    >>6792185
    :3 Don't burst his bubble.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:44 No.6792293
    >>6792237
    That's not nicely dressed. That's downright vulgar.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:44 No.6792300
    >>6792185

    seems more like a purely scruffy person, than to go as far as Fei and Spike.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:44 No.6792301
    Dapper Hooligans make great villains.

    For instance, Beck from Big O.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:45 No.6792314
    >>6792293

    Dapper Hooligans tend to be vulgar
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:46 No.6792325
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    Dapper Gentleman.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:48 No.6792343
    >>6792171
    Um...

    Lady <----> Harlot
    Proper <---> Scandalous?

    I think the first axis needs better names.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:50 No.6792357
    >>6792343
    Harlot sounds a little too vulgar for these purposes. Perhaps "wench" or the like would be closer.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:50 No.6792360
    >>6792343
    What's a proper harlot?
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    >>6792343
    No, I think that's about perfect

    Scandalous Lady up in here.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:51 No.6792371
    >>6792357
    Odd, 'wench' always sounded harsher than 'harlot' to me.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:52 No.6792379
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    >>6792360

    Remember this show?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:52 No.6792385
    >>6792360
    A classy hooker
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:52 No.6792386
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    Another Scandalous Lady.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:53 No.6792391
    >>6792343
    tart, tease, trollop, strumpet

    pretty much anything on http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikisaurus:promiscuous_woman would work as the opposition to lady
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:53 No.6792398
    >>6792360
    a courtesan?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:54 No.6792407
    Use Hooligan and Vagabond.

    A Gentleman uses the code of the Gentleman, proper behavior and the sort. Honorable and decent in all things.

    A Vagabond is not well-behaved in any fashion, uncivilized, but like the Gentleman, a Vagabond still has a sense of je ne sais quoi, a certain style and panache that runs deeper than mere grooming - indeed, these often exceed the limits of good taste that the Gentleman adheres to!

    Hooligans, by contrast, are gritty, lower-class individuals that lack what they call the "pretention" of the upper class. Street folk, pure and simple, with little redeeming qualities.

    Fellows are the middle ground, those that don't truly fit into any of the three above. Generally decent folk, but in the end, it remains their grooming that sets them forward as notable or not.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:55 No.6792419
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    Proper Harlot.
    >> RAWK LAWBSTAR 11/20/09(Fri)17:58 No.6792441
    >>6792343

    so what does /tg/ rate me as?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)17:59 No.6792454
    >>6792441
    No idea who you are, so I'll just say scandalous harlot.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:00 No.6792463
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    >>6792379
    Speaking of Firefly, what would Zoe be?

    The Neutral Lady?

    Speaking of which...

    Proper Lady - Fair Lady - Scandalous Lady
    Proper Goodwife - Fair Goodwife - Scandalous Goodwife
    Proper Harlot - Fair Harlot - Scandalous Harlot

    Would this work?
    >> Leman Russ 11/20/09(Fri)18:00 No.6792468
    >>6792441
    Why you are as gentlemanly and dapper as a lady can be!
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:00 No.6792469
    >>6792454
    you sir rolled a natural 20
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:00 No.6792474
    >>6792441

    Naught but a draggle-tail, my dear Lawbstar.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:00 No.6792475
    >>6792454
    I am familiar with Rawk, and I second this.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:00 No.6792477
    >>6792419
    HER FEET
    somethings very wrong with them
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:01 No.6792486
    >>6792463

    "Goodwife" is godawful, but "fair" works well.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:04 No.6792515
    >>6792407

    That description is worse than the one seen in the 3.5 Player's Handbook.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:04 No.6792522
    >>6792486
    I know. I fail at Victorian adjectives. Anyone have alternatives?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:05 No.6792526
    >>6792522

    Maid?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:07 No.6792544
    >>6792526
    Incorrect.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:07 No.6792546
    >>6792522
    Fräulein?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:07 No.6792548
    >>6792522
    Maiden? Damsel? Lass? Mistress?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:09 No.6792568
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    The Irish, as a playable race, are ALWAYS hooligans.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:10 No.6792570
    >>6792522

    When the hell did this become Victorian?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:11 No.6792591
    >>6792570
    Since we started discussing 'Dapper Gentlemen' and 'Scruffy Hooligans' as a proper means of distinguishing between our fellows, my good man.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:12 No.6792602
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    >>6792568

    Oh come now.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:13 No.6792610
    Proper Lady - Fair Lady - Scandalous Lady
    Proper Maiden - Fair Maiden - Scandalous Maiden
    Proper Harlot - Fair Harlot - Scandalous Harlot

    How about now?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:14 No.6792628
    >>6792610

    Doesn't seem quite right.

    Also, it seems the thread is no longer bumping.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:16 No.6792638
    Has this been archived yet?
    If not, WHY NOT?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:20 No.6792690
    >>6792602
    Drizzt of Irishmen.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:29 No.6792801
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    I heard there was a gathering of dapper gents in this thread. Just peeping in to say hello! I've a dinner engagement to attend to, and you know how we humans hate to be kept waiting, but keep the fire roaring, good friends!
    >> Mustache Luchador !ALtURO.KKA 11/20/09(Fri)18:30 No.6792811
    rolled 58 = 58

    I just stole this and posted it on my gaming group's forum. With slight modifications.

    Dapper<--True-->Scruffy
    Gentleman<--Dude-->Hooligan
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:32 No.6792832
    >>6792638

    It's already been archived on the suptg archive.
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:43 No.6792956
    >>6792610

    Courtesan is better.

    I also like the phrase "Wanton strumpet"
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)18:43 No.6792962
    >>6792811
    "Dude"? Seriously?
    >> Anonymous 11/20/09(Fri)20:28 No.6794101
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    True Gentleman



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