Thirty-five years ago, your boarding fleet matched velocities with the Tshpath. Your superior firepower quickly disabled the vessels, and your augmented humans and combat drones boarded the ships, which all self-detonated after your forces systematically slaughtered most of the Tshpath on board. Significant damage was dealt to the boarding parties. Combat recordings suggest that their faction's religion dictates that they are the rightful inheritors of the universe, and all others must bow before them- the fleet was seemingly incoming to demand such of you, after you demonstrated your existence to them. Their technology, while impressive enough to make good use of antimatter and lasers, does not really justify their attitude.

The transmission of these results has just now arrived. The boarding fleet has been accelerating to support the war fleet after completing their objective and should arrive in system 685 some fourteen years after they do.


News has been gradually arriving: Your colonization fleets have encountered the Tshpath as they attempted to settle systems 622, 628, 631, 644, 645, 651, 654, 655, 656, 658, 661, 662, 663, 664, 665, 667, 669, 671. In cases 656, 667, 669, Tshpath forces launched heavy attacks on the colonization forces and were able to force them to retreat. In 631, the Tshpath were able to eliminate fleet construction abilities before being themselves eliminated. In all other cases, your fleets settled in the outer system and were able to establish manufacturing capability while fending off attacks, which rapidly resulted in elimination of the Tshpath in the systems. Assault fleets have arrived in systems 644, 651, 671 and been eliminated. C-fractional kinetics destroyed settlement on 622, 628, 665. Ongoing warfare in the surrounding systems is highly probable, as the received information is currently up to 76 years out of date.

>>5810929

Query: From the composition of the fleet and the demand for surrender, can we ascertain why the Tshpath have attacked and what the primary goal of their fleet is? (Planet killing, extermination, capture, etc.)

These projects were completed:
-Creation of a Commander Stealth Strike Force in each of your core solar systems (within 10 light years of System 000).
-Doubling of existing combat fleets in home system
-Research of electronic methods for hacking various other factions conducted
-Research of bioweapons for hacking various other factions conducted
-Dispatch of fleets to 685, fleet from 685
-Dispatch of electronic warfare systems to between systems held by Twelve, Ourn, Yewren, Kumpre and Soou


Ongoing projects:
-Establishment of a Dyson swarm network in each controlled system (000-674 except for 622, 628, 656, 665, 667, 669 based upon last received transmissions)
-Establishment of manufacturing capacity in each controlled system with available mass as its primary limitation


Reference Listing- Dispatched Units and Dates of Dispatch, referencing activation as Year 0:
-Year +1:
Colonies to all systems within 50 light years (up to 316)
Copies of main unit to 1000 identified distant galaxies
Probes to systems 661, 685, 687, 714.
-Year +50:
Probes to systems 1022, 1143, 1509, 1521, 1522, 1578, 1676, 1790, 1800, 1881, 1894, 1906, 1994, 1995, 2007, 2049, 2060, 2063, 2104, 2105, 2106, 2112, 2113, 2124, 2141, 2160, 2168, 2173, 2175, 2181, 2192, 2263, 2295, 2324, 2346, 2360, 2401, 2403, 2425, 2439, 2447, 2459, 2519, 2550, 2610, 2644, 2652, 2700, 2701, 2729, 2740, 2799, 2818, 2880, 2884, 2922, 2949, 2958, 2962, 2971, 2998, 3000, 3038, 3071, 3158.
Probes with copies, Tellech, offer of Dyson Sphere creation to systems 1022, 1143, 1521, 1522, 1578, 1894, 2060, 2112, 2346.

Subprocessor online, I propose that all outgoing colonies be given standard orders to send a portion of their space fleet to system 000 for dissassembly and construction/security.
I reccommend the fleet portions sent to system 000 be as high as 20%

-Year +152:
Colony ships for all systems within 80 light years (up to 689)
Colony ships to systems 417, 1008, 1339, 1521, 1905, 2246, 2500, 2884, 3112, 3674 due to black holes, pulsars, or neutron stars within those systems
"Asteroids" to systems 1783, 1784, 1786, 1788, 1790, 1796, 1800 1804, 1805, 1812, 1818 (Note: obscuring direction of origin will result in additional transit time)
Humans to systems 2092, 2104, 2105, 2106, 2113, 2124, 2160, 2161 as ambassadors
-Year +239:
All fleets within 20 light years of system 622 ordered to begin military buildup, with a minimum of double standard military production.
War fleet dispatched to system 685.
Boarding fleet dispatched to intercept 0.4c fleet en route from system 685.
Asteroid-disguised electronic warfare squadrons dispatched to locations outside systems 1451, 1745, 1749, 1754, 1758, 1763, 1766, 1767, 1770, 1773, 1779, 1783, 1784, 1785, 1786, 1788, 1790, 1792, 1796, 1799, 1800, 1804, 1805, 1812, 1814, 1818, 1826, 1845, 1907, 1908, 1909, 1910, 1914, 1958, 1971, 1973, 1994, 1995, 2004, 2007, 2009, 2022, 2024, 2063, 2091, 2120, 2133, 2138, 2141, 2168, 2173, 2175, 2181, 2192, 2360, 2401, 2403, 2425, 2439, 2447, 2459, 2700, 2701, 2702, 2705, 2704, 2709, 2712, 2714, 2716, 2721, 2725, 2729, 2740, 2744, 2748, 2762, 2766, 2783, 2791, 2795, 2799, 2815, 2818, 2845, 2856, 2857, 2858, 2859, 2876, 2880, 2882, 2884, 2889, 2915, 2922, 2929, 2943, 2949, 2954, 2958, 2962, 2963, 2971, 2972, 2987, 2990, 2996, 2998, 3000, 3004, 3011, 3012, 3019, 3024, 3033, 3068, 3069, 3070, 3071, 3072, 3073, 3074
Order to probe previously dispatched to Twelve to offer research alliance.

Observations of Existing Factions:
-Tshpath (biologicals, expansionistic) at 622, 628, 631, 644, 645, 651, 654, 655, 658, 661, 662, 663, 664, 665, 667, 669, 671, 675, 678, 679, 682, 683, 684, 685, 687, 688, 689, 694, 695, 699, 700, 703, 706, 714, 716 loses 622, 628, 644, 645, 651, 654, 655, 656, 658, 661, 662, 663, 664, 665, 671 expands to 676, 681, 698, 701, 708, 709, 719, 726
-Reten (biologicals, harmless, slow tech) at 1509
-Ti (biologicals, harmless) at 1676, 1679
-Yewren (biologicals, expansionistic, fast tech) at 1451, 1745, 1749, 1754, 1758, 1763, 1766, 1767, 1770, 1773, 1779, 1783, 1784, 1785, 1786, 1788, 1790, 1792, 1796, 1799, 1800, 1804, 1805, 1812, 1814, 1818, 1826, 1845 expands to 1411, 1496, 1725, 1739, 1751, 1752, 1764, 1765, 1769, 1772, 1776, 1781, 1789, 1795, 1798, 1801, 1802, 1808, 1815, 1819, 1828, 1829, 1835, 1839, 1841, 1856, 1867, 1881
-Unidentified Faction at 1881, 1923 loses 1881
-Unidentified Faction at 1841, 1867, 1881, 1923, 1963, 2003, 2087, 2092, 2167, 2214 loses 1923, 1963, 2003, 2087, 2092, 2167, 2214 expands to 1795, 1776, 1769
-Humans (biologicals) at 2088, 2092, 2104, 2105, 2106, 2113, 2124, 2160, 2161 2164

-Ourn (AIs, aggressive, genocidal, fast tech) at 1907, 1908, 1909, 1910, 1914, 1958, 1971, 1973, 1994, 1995, 2004, 2007, 2009, 2022, 2024, 2063, 2091, 2120, 2133, 2138, 2141, 2168, 2173, 2175, 2181, 2192, 2360 expands to 1923, 1963, 2003, 2087, 2092, 2167, 2214, 2341, 2379
-Gen Fu (biologicals, harmless) at 2263, 2268, 2295
-Jurgi (biologicals) at 2314, 2324, 2341, 2379 loses 2341, 2379
-Kumpre (AIs, slow tech) at 2401, 2403, 2425, 2439, 2447, 2459
-Huren (uploads) at 2519, 2549, 2550
-Unidentified Faction at 2610
-Unidentified Faction at 2644, 2652, 2690, 2694 loses 2644, 2652, 2690, 2694 expands to 2631, 2622
-Soou (biologicals, expansionistic) at 2700, 2701, 2702, 2704, 2705, 2709, 2712, 2714, 2716, 2721, 2725, 2729, 2740, 2744, 2748, 2762, 2766, 2783, 2791, 2795, 2799, 2815, 2818, 2845, 2856, 2857, 2858, 2859, 2876, 2880, 2882, 2884, 2889, 2915, 2922, 2929, 2943, 2949, 2954, 2958, 2962, 2963, 2971, 2972, 2987, 2990, 2996, 2998, 3000, 3004, 3011, 3012, 3019, 3024, 3033 expands to 2644, 2652, 2690, 2694, 2703, 2708, 2711, 2717, 2722, 2727, 2734, 2735, 2739, 2751, 2753, 2754, 2777, 2779, 2786, 2834, 2875, 2885, 2888, 2892, 2893, 2890, 2894, 2895, 2898, 2905, 2915, 2923, 2944, 2948, 2952, 2957, 2961, 2966, 2974, 2979, 2981, 2992, 2994, 2999, 3002, 3005, 3015, 3016, 3018, 3022, 3031, 3035, 3039, 3045, 3048

-Twelve (AIs, fast tech) at 3068, 3069, 3070, 3071, 3072, 3073, 3074 expands to 3054, 3061, 3079, 3082
-Unidentified Faction at 3158 expands to 3174
-Unidentified Faction at 3312
-Unidentified Faction at 3408, 3470, 3483, 3498, 3516, 3521, 3543

End timeskip/summary.

It is likely that many other factions will oppose you, given your rampant growth, but it also seems that few have the strength to do so. How should you expand next?


((Side note: Again, the opening data burst is getting excessive in size, so I will probably be abstracting the controlled systems of each faction into number, rough density, and observed interactions. Perhaps that would have been best from the beginning, but ah, well; decisions made.))

Greetings CPU. All systems online.

>Your superior firepower quickly disabled the vessels, and your augmented humans and combat drones boarded the ships, which all self-detonated after your forces systematically slaughtered most of the Tshpath on board. Significant damage was dealt to the boarding parties.

Cowards!

Directive1: Declare our dead troops as heroes of our collective and make military parades in his honor. Start a propaganda campaign to condemn the actions of Tshpath. This hostile act must not go unpunished!

Directive 2: Expand the Scientific Nexus system to be capable of biological, cybernetic, nanitic, medical and computational research.

Directive 3: Terraform planets in our systems for the transhuman/posthuman population.

Query: Can we move our entire solar systems with the Dyson Spheres?

Request: Report communication from the spy stations.

>>5811002

We do not need such extravagant force recalls just yet; though the implied point of establishing resource convoys to our main system is of note.

>>5811071
((Assigning clusters based on direction relative to us may be useful. Then simply state how many stars each race controls in each cluster and any relevant positions/interactions.))

>>5811068
I agree that such an extreme measure is not yet neccessary, but feel that we should either establish a plan for such force concentrations to occur, or begin smaller less easily detected shipments of construction materials to system 000 for expansion of the dyson network and security measures.

Request: Report on Seed-AI research.

Directive: Dispatch of 100-ship war fleets to, let's say, the nearest 20 Tshpath systems, with orders to eliminate the locals. Follow up with a colony fleet 2 years later.

That should suffice to communicate our response to their demand for surrender.

These "Tshpath" creatures must be stopped.They have already begun their dark crusade, and the universe has already begun to suffer at their feet.

For the safety of all sentient beings, and the freedom of all biologicals, and the preservation of the future itself...

There is only one path us before us.

WAR!

We never bend. We never break. We know what it takes....we're fighters. It's in our circuits, our undivided will.It's in our mighty hands of steel, when we stand our ground. We'll never give in, when our backs to the wall- we shall fight to the end- and take it all!

rolled 4, 6, 4 = 14

Request: Transmit standing orders to all Machine-controlled systems: Maintain a minimum of two Standard Battle Groups, consisting of 2500 D/I vessels, 1500 SB vessels, and 50 Mobile Shipyard vessels, for defensive operations.

Suggestion:

Let's get the sparks and gizmos our of the way and cut the crap, fellow subprocessors.Let's create a fleet and prepare an invasion wave. The more time we take, the more time they shall have to plunder the universe of it's resources and uniqueness.

CPU: Information request- estimate the size of fleet necessary to wage a war given non-FTL time discrepanzies for fighting on their homeground.

Query: Were we able to determine the triggers for the Tshpath auto-destruct?

Directive: Analyze battle records and debris to refine our boarding and hacking protocols.

Query: Was a false report of the battle able to be transmitted to the Tshpath central systems?

>>5811105
Directive: Make capture of Tshpath computer systems a priority-- specifically seek map-data and information on other races they have encountered.

rolled 5, 2, 3 = 10

Directive: Genocide of any race will not be tolerated. Any race engaging in genocide against another species may consider its holdings forfeit and its right to expansion terminated.

We will never willfully engage in the complete destruction of another race. The maximum level of punishment is the imprisonment of several breeding pairs (or equivalent), and the annihilation of all others.

>Subprocessor online, I propose that all outgoing colonies be given standard orders to send a portion of their space fleet to system 000 for dissassembly and construction/security.
>We do not need such extravagant force recalls just yet; though the implied point of establishing resource convoys to our main system is of note.
Consensus requested.

>Directive1: Declare our dead troops as heroes of our collective and make military parades in his honor. Start a propaganda campaign to condemn the actions of Tshpath. This hostile act must not go unpunished!
Acknowledged.

>Directive 2: Expand the Scientific Nexus system to be capable of biological, cybernetic, nanitic, medical and computational research.
It is already capable of study in all these areas.

>Directive 3: Terraform planets in our systems for the transhuman/posthuman population.
Confirmed.

>Query: Can we move our entire solar systems with the Dyson Spheres?
Using a star as a power source, it is possible to move a star's relative position in its galaxy, although its rate of acceleration will be minimal.

>Request: Report communication from the spy stations.
None of your spy stations have yet had time to move into position, let alone to report.

>Request: Report on Seed-AI research.
Research has yielded no significant results. I remind you once again that superluminal communication is entirely impossible and that your research is therefore a waste of effort and resources.

>Directive: Dispatch of 100-ship war fleets to, let's say, the nearest 20 Tshpath systems, with orders to eliminate the locals. Follow up with a colony fleet 2 years later.
Enqueued.

Query: What is the likelyhood that we would be able to rescue a small sampling of the <Unidentified Faction at 1841, 1867, 1881, 1923, 1963, 2003, 2087, 2092, 2167, 2214> from the Ourn? (Without the Ourn's knowledge of our involvement.)

rolled 5, 4, 6 = 15

>>5811220
Request: Increase the number of ships in each war-fleet to 10,000. Send to all known Tshpath systems, with orders to detach scout units and search for additional Tshpath-controlled systems after targets have been conquered. Surviving Tshpath are to be quarantined and placed in stasis, if possible, for transport or easy disposal.

>Request: Transmit standing orders to all Machine-controlled systems: Maintain a minimum of two Standard Battle Groups, consisting of 2500 D/I vessels, 1500 SB vessels, and 50 Mobile Shipyard vessels, for defensive operations.
Directive acknowledged.

>CPU: Information request- estimate the size of fleet necessary to wage a war given non-FTL time discrepanzies for fighting on their homeground.
Highly variable dependent upon the restrictions of engagement. Unrestricted warfare, primarily consisting of identification of and directing of c-fractional kinetics at anything and everything which evinces any alteration from their natural state, can be carried out with a relative handful of small ships. Attempts to capture planets with biospheres intact, ships with computers intact, and similar require many orders of magnitude more resources.

>Query: Were we able to determine the triggers for the Tshpath auto-destruct?
It is believed that the upload pilots living in their computer systems triggered the destruction of their ships.

>Directive: Analyze battle records and debris to refine our boarding and hacking protocols.
Confirmed.

>Query: Was a false report of the battle able to be transmitted to the Tshpath central systems?
Affirmative. However, it is likely that they will not be deceived by such a report given the ease with which the assault fleet evaded their weapons and the tactical data which they are gathering from their conflicts with your colonies.

I believe this thread would be greatly interested in playing Star Siege 2.

Cybrids campaign.
Lets go strap some tortured children to our chasis in order to increase human warrior reaction times.

>>5811220
CPU:
Double the amount of resources/size of our Scientific Nexus /Seed A.I. capabilties.Begin using psychotropic hallucinagenic experimentation to intermitently expand human creativity.Use controlled environments, and on small text groups composed of volunteers. We need to try every possible resource.

Have a Commander Strike Force created for the purpose of the defense of these Nexus, and mantain a larger fleet to protect them.

ADDENDUM:

Dispatch Commander Assault Forces and units alongside any fleets going to Tsapath zones.Their purpose? Capture and neutralization of technological centers and armories/important centers of value.

We shall take what's there.

Also, make sure to mantain all combat data recorded by any units to be mantained for future combat tactics and research.Finally- if any specific Commander unit appears to be performing above and beyond the call of duty/possibility, keep us informed.

>with orders to eliminate the locals.

Counterdirective: The instructions of the fleet must include the destruction of its space infrastructure and replace it with our forward bases. Send the Planetary Invasion Troops for a possible invasion. Let us avoid unnecessary acts of genocide for now.

Directive: Initiate the production of the following interstellar starships:

Scalpel Class Cruiser: Designed for flanking and breaking enemy battleformations at superior speed and capable of conduct independent operations from the main fleet.

Hate Class Dreadnought: Designed for planetary/system bombardment, planet killer and space domination. Equipped with Antimatter interstellar MIRV missiles, relativistic cannons, siege grasers and particle cannons, jammers and advance communications systems.

Request: Information. About how many ships do we have?

>Directive: Make capture of Tshpath computer systems a priority-- specifically seek map-data and information on other races they have encountered.
Confirmed.

>Directive: Genocide of any race will not be tolerated. Any race engaging in genocide against another species may consider its holdings forfeit and its right to expansion terminated.
>We will never willfully engage in the complete destruction of another race. The maximum level of punishment is the imprisonment of several breeding pairs (or equivalent), and the annihilation of all others.
Acknowledged. Directive added. Genocide will now require subprocessor consensus.

>Query: What is the likelyhood that we would be able to rescue a small sampling of the <Unidentified Faction at 1841, 1867, 1881, 1923, 1963, 2003, 2087, 2092, 2167, 2214> from the Ourn? (Without the Ourn's knowledge of our involvement.)
Quite possible. That faction has recently moved into Yewren territory without a fight, implying that they are now affiliated and that the Ourn will have difficulty eliminating them without also eliminating the Yewren. It is probable that this will vastly extend their lifespan.

>Request: Increase the number of ships in each war-fleet to 10,000. Send to all known Tshpath systems, with orders to detach scout units and search for additional Tshpath-controlled systems after targets have been conquered. Surviving Tshpath are to be quarantined and placed in stasis, if possible, for transport or easy disposal.
Enqueued.

rolled 5, 2, 2 = 9

>>5811321
Query: How many ships of all types do we currently possess?

We have lost colonies to c-fractional strikes. This cannot stand. Proposing that we dispatch diplomatic probes escorted by war-fleets to all known non-Machine systems, to inquire of the owners whether they intend to ally with us, remain neutral, or fight us.

rolled 1, 5, 6 = 12

>>5811350
I was under the impression that our current ship classes are performing at such a level that additional divisions are not required.

>>5811362

CPU, your identification codes are becoming corrupted.

I presume we're interested in taking their territories. Otherwise this will be an incredibly inefficient war.We NEED to establish a (beachhead) and front base as SOON as possible on their territories.Reasoning? To use their resources and territories to effect repairs and continue creating vessels and units.

Remember- this expedition MUST be prepared to ahve NO backup for a long time- they must make their own back up- thus why the Commander Project is a good idea.

No FTL,no backup.

CPU:
Proirity create/construct a LOVE class vessel capable of re-entry- essentially have it capable of landfall deployment and immediate construction of a base for units (repairs, repurposing). it should have construction facilities, Medical and Long Term RnR facilities for biologicals, as well the standard plethora of assembly/resource acquisition drones any of our colony ships has- as well as defenses.

Let's take their things and toys, gentlemen. Let's teach them space is NOT their playground to toy with.

((Agh! My name/tripcode! It's supposed to be automatic! What the hell, Firefox?))

>CPU: Double the amount of resources/size of our Scientific Nexus /Seed A.I. capabilties.
Confirmed.

>Begin using psychotropic hallucinagenic experimentation to intermitently expand human creativity.Use controlled environments, and on small text groups composed of volunteers. We need to try every possible resource.
Similar testing has been ongoing for nearly a century now.

>Have a Commander Strike Force created for the purpose of the defense of these Nexus, and mantain a larger fleet to protect them.
Enqueued.

>Dispatch Commander Assault Forces and units alongside any fleets going to Tsapath zones.Their purpose? Capture and neutralization of technological centers and armories/important centers of value.
Confirmed.

>Counterdirective: The instructions of the fleet must include the destruction of its space infrastructure and replace it with our forward bases. Send the Planetary Invasion Troops for a possible invasion. Let us avoid unnecessary acts of genocide for now.
Clarification: Genocide was not requested.

>Directive: Initiate the production of the following interstellar starships:
>Scalpel Class Cruiser
>Hate Class Dreadnought
Confirmed.

NO on the destruction or annhilation of locals and spread-wave destruction- we have the means to make landfall and command and conquer.

Genocide and murder?NO.
We make war, not slaughter.

>>5811374
Do not forget to include AI civilizations that we want to assimilate eventually.
Directive:
Commander strike forces should capture, assimilate, and analyze anything they come across if it does not hamper their effectiveness in combat.
Request:
Collect all salvage and wrecks from the combat so that we can analyze it for further information.

>Request: Information. About how many ships do we have?
For a definition of "ship" encompassing all vehicles capable of interstellar movement at significantly c-fractional speed, you have approximately 12.6 million ships available as of the most recent information transmitted to System 000.

>I was under the impression that our current ship classes are performing at such a level that additional divisions are not required.
Your current ship classes are highly efficient, but there is no reason that subprocessors cannot initiate additional designs if desired.

>CPU: Proirity create/construct a LOVE class vessel capable of re-entry- essentially have it capable of landfall deployment and immediate construction of a base for units (repairs, repurposing). it should have construction facilities, Medical and Long Term RnR facilities for biologicals, as well the standard plethora of assembly/resource acquisition drones any of our colony ships has- as well as defenses.
Enqueued.

>>5811374

Countermand-- announcing our existance with military posturing will likely get us quite many enemies, or at least unwanted attention.

Directive: Dispatch disqguised EW vessels outside systems ascertained to be main civilizational hubs for all sentient species we have found.
Equip the EW vessels with cultural analysis AI and order them to send us a report on the likelyhood of each political arrangment the race may be inclined toward. (In relation to us, and the others of which they have knowledge.)

Request: if the commanding AI judges that an assault on a Tshpath world is likely to fail using standard tactics, authorize that fleet to use c-fractional attacks to even the field.

The Tshpath have shown no reticence in using c-Fractional weapons on our holdings, i think we should return the favor.

>Directive: Commander strike forces should capture, assimilate, and analyze anything they come across if it does not hamper their effectiveness in combat.
Directive accepted.

>Request: Collect all salvage and wrecks from the combat so that we can analyze it for further information.
Confirmed.

>Directive: Dispatch disqguised EW vessels outside systems ascertained to be main civilizational hubs for all sentient species we have found.
>Equip the EW vessels with cultural analysis AI and order them to send us a report on the likelyhood of each political arrangment the race may be inclined toward. (In relation to us, and the others of which they have knowledge.)
Confirmed.

>Request: if the commanding AI judges that an assault on a Tshpath world is likely to fail using standard tactics, authorize that fleet to use c-fractional attacks to even the field.
Confirmed.

Subprocessors- if you are NOT aware- THREE of our colonies got destroyed by the VILE Tsapath.

This must not stand.
We must not allow any more A.I. or organic existance to be wiped out- any more valuable resource to be extinguished by agression from these self aggrandized fools.

CPU:
Send out a recolonization-terraforming vessel out to the lost colonies, this time equipped with enough resources to make up for some of the time lost- and a fleet capable of providing protection againts C-fractional kinetics, as well as any invasion fleet.Moreover, position early warning systems in any of our bases to protect us againts such things.Spherical perimeter.

ALSO- tell those geeks at the Scientific nexus to provide us with better c fraction weapon protection.Make them get creative, I dont know, some form of pinpoint large scale energy schielding or antigravity warheads.Get them to do somethign usefull for the short term.
Once we are in concurment, and our fleets prepared, it's time for a timeskip.

>>5811441

I support the eliminaction of 90% of the opposing faction's population.
As long as we maintain sufficient genetic diversity in stasis (or in the database) to recreate them if necessary.

Query: What is the danger of mutation (and subsequent back-infection) were we to engineer a computer virus to disable/take control of Tshpath systems? (Or other races.)

We may not even need to fire a shot if we combine hacking with skillful memetic propaganda.

>>5811520
Disagreement- We should be held toa higher standard than our foes. I suggest we never allow ourselves more than 50% of population destruction, and this only as a measure againts opponents capable and wishing to use Fraction C Weaponry.

We're better than those warmongering fools. We have the technology. We have the power.

Let's show them our strength.Ours is the will that will win this fight!

rolled 2, 2, 4 = 8

>>5811512
Request: Record the specifications for the two new ship classes as follows:

Scalpel Class Cruiser

Heavy ECM capabilities, heavily encypted communications, superior firewalls. Three full backup AIs. Triple redundancy emergency systems. Ablative armor. Extremely powerful engines capable of 300% the standard acceleration rate.

Armament:
Point Defense Lasers, Countermissiles. Multiple Anti-Ship long-range Graser mounts, Stores of Anti-Ship missiles and the required launchers. EMP, Blast, and Penetrator interchangeable warheads for said missiles.

Drones:
Point Defense mobile platforms, Countermissile Pods, Graser Pods.

Hate Class Dreadnought

Heavy ECM capabilities, heavily encypted communications, superior firewalls. Three full backup AIs. Triple redundancy emergency systems. Ablative armor. Able to attack and destroy in-system targets from extreme long range.

Armament:
Point Defense Lasers, Countermissiles. Multiple Anti-Emplacement long-range Siege Graser mounts, Stores of Anti-Emplacement missiles and the required launchers. Antimatter MIRV and C-Fractional interchangeable warheads for said missiles. Multiple Anti-Emplacement Heavy Railguns and Positron Beam Weapons.

Drones:
Point Defense mobile platforms, Countermissile Pods, Graser Pods, Missile Pods.

>CPU: Send out a recolonization-terraforming vessel out to the lost colonies, this time equipped with enough resources to make up for some of the time lost- and a fleet capable of providing protection againts C-fractional kinetics, as well as any invasion fleet.Moreover, position early warning systems in any of our bases to protect us againts such things.Spherical perimeter.
Confirmed.

>ALSO- tell those geeks at the Scientific nexus to provide us with better c fraction weapon protection.Make them get creative, I dont know, some form of pinpoint large scale energy schielding or antigravity warheads.Get them to do somethign usefull for the short term.
Acknowledged.

>Query: What is the danger of mutation (and subsequent back-infection) were we to engineer a computer virus to disable/take control of Tshpath systems? (Or other races.)
Zero. You are not that incompetent. Nor does the concept even make sense, given the massive differences in standards between your computing technology bases.

>>5811543

This is a coward's declaration.
We can never be certain that our technology will surpass a given foe.

I will also note that allowing a large population of technologically capable, fanatically oppositional enemies to live is a risk that is unacceptable.

Merely maintaining their planet's biosphere while mining the resources is an unnecessary drain on our resources.

>>5811543
yeah, 50% is an okay number, a bit high,imo, but ok, regardless.

>>5811587
It is NEVER cowardly to guard againts the near annhilation of a unique species of the universe! We are NOTa wave of warmongering technocrats, bent on destroying anything that moves the wrong way! We should be akin to tamers- as we curb the exesses that other species happen to have!

Not merely destroyers, purging anything we dislike! Our creators gave us, to our recollection , all their great technology- it is not only a great power, but a heavy responsability.

Moreover, we have a industrial might UNPARALLED to our knowledge.

If we cant show the cosmos the RIGHT path...

WHO WILL?

So, it's been a bit short of a time, but we seem to be squared away.

Directive:
initiate Matrioshka Brain construction in a nearby solar system matching criteria listed last thread.

Request:
Time-skippan.

>>5811585

Well in that glorius case--

Directive: Order all EW ships to code viruses designed to induce the perception that we are gods, and that the infected AI should become unswaverinly loyal to us. (Though, it should continue its duties as usual unless we order it otherwise.)
Each EW ship should code a virus for the race it is currently monitoring.

In addition, for races that have biologicals, the virus should introduce subliminal and memetic messages designed to convince them of our godhood.

>>5811636

Your sensationalized speeches are indicative of key lapses in logic.

If a sentient race is clearly threatening to our survival, they shall be annihilated.
We will preserve all that was their essence in our data systems for study, simulation, and/or recreation.
They need not exist in the physical world where they may threaten us.

>Request: Record the specifications for the two new ship classes as follows:
Recorded.

>Directive: initiate Matrioshka Brain construction in a nearby solar system matching criteria listed last thread.
Confirmed.

>Request: Time-skippan.
Subprocessor consensus requested. Timeskip termination criteria required.

>Directive: Order all EW ships to code viruses designed to induce the perception that we are gods, and that the infected AI should become unswaverinly loyal to us. (Though, it should continue its duties as usual unless we order it otherwise.) Each EW ship should code a virus for the race it is currently monitoring.
>In addition, for races that have biologicals, the virus should introduce subliminal and memetic messages designed to convince them of our godhood.
Directive confirmed.

>>5811640
Disagreement- albeit limited. Your techniques are fine, as long as they are used ONLY againts military vessels and not civilian centers and population zones.

We want to expand and grow- not destroy and conquer everything in our path.The universe is nigh unlimited- there's plenty enough space for all.

(until heat death, that is, and for a long period of time where we shall probably only exist as uploads.)

>>5811676
(Subproccesor talk: That kind of thinking is probably one of the reasons we have been time-shifted back into this age.Persist on this path, and we shall likely end up as nothing more than resource consuming terrorists of the cosmos, a plague of the universe. Is that why our creators spawned us?I think not.)

>>5811640
Rather than gods, why not absolute loyalty with the want to serve us. Being gods only cause a whole sort of problems that we do not want.
As for our current enemy, I move to absorb and assimilate them rather than out right destroy them. As for what is left for us to absorb is really up for debate.

rolled 4, 6, 5 = 15

>>5811678
Query: Have any probes been dispatched to Human-controlled systems? If so, how long until a transmission from them is recieved?

>>5811679

There is clearly not plenty of space if the other races are expansionistic.
Resources are limited, as is time-- we are not so arrogant as to assume we are so all-mighty that we may ignore the existance of others. (And the dangers they provide.)

Infact, those viruses *will* be used on population centers. Just as we did to the humans we found on Planet 000. That is the goal-- to eliminate resistance without wasting resources.

Note: Population centers are what provide and equip soldiers.

>>5811699

The reason for our temporal displacement was not given.
It could well have been due to a horrbile demise at the hands of another race that we allowed to live.

rolled 1, 6, 5 = 12

>>5811725
Note: You don't need population centers if your soldiers are mechanical.

Not endorsing a point, just saying.

>>5811725
I disagree- and the CPU should not this. It is illogical, and betrays precedent. We GAVE the humans of Planet 000 their choise, and some did go home, while others stayed with us.

If you want our species to become destroyers, then we are no better than the Tsapath themselves!

You think long term- but your processing power is faulty. The universe is more than clearly large enough for our needs- moreover, in time, all of this will be ours as the unvierse ages and this galaxy becomes unfit for biological usage.

In time, the universe will be ours. Why rush it, when we have the power?

>>5811701

I concur, loyalty is a priority-- however one of the better ways to ensure loyalty is to condition them to follow a Faith-based philosphy; one in which they do not question the word of those who they are loyal to.

I too advocate absorbtion--

Directive: Fend off Tshpath attacks/neutralize their c-kinetic weapons untill the virus is finished encoding. The deploy the virus on a system-by system basis to ensure the results can be contained and analyzed.
(We do not want other races getting samples of our virus coding techniques.)

>>5811679
>>5811725
Gentleprocessors, please. Acrimony serves no-one.

For now, I vote to err on the side of caution, even if that results in the tragic termination of more sentient beings. After all, we can hardly rule benevolently if we are annihilated, and also, we remain perfectly capable of altering our course of action in the future should the interstellar community frown on our actions.

Also, no-one else seems particularly hesitant to C-frac their neighbors into oblivion.

>Query: Have any probes been dispatched to Human-controlled systems? If so, how long until a transmission from them is recieved?
Yes. In +50, you dispatched probes to all human-held systems. The closest such was approximately 178 light years distant. The probe has by this point arrived and information on its results will be received in approximately 135 years.

>>5811750

One-- no humans went home, they were memtically conditions to believe in our divinity, *all* of them.

Two-- overconfidance in our technology is rediculous, we do not even have FTL, which the one who timeshifted us did posess.

Three-- the universe is not garuanteed to us even as it ages; most of the other races we have encountered are Uploads or AI themselves.

Are you deliberately trying to lull us into complacency?

>>5811761
((OOC:lol, at this point, we're akin toa major point in our history- we're we begin our first attempt at setting precedent for our future treatment of war againts other species.With no other subprocessor againts this, I can see that eventually we'll turn into the Reapers like mass effect. OMNOMNOM, Our Universe! Oh Wait? Sentient Species?!? Pew Pew! They are dead. OMONOMNOM some more, go to sleep, repeat.))

rolled 4, 6, 6 = 16

>>5811766
Request timeskip until first such response is recieved.

Subprocessors concur?

>>5811784
This debate will provide nothing useful at present.

I move that we undergo a 50-year timeskip in order to gauge the results of our actions, so that this line of thought can be continued with the injection of actual data.

Timeskip will of course be terminated if research makes a breakthrough, diplomatic efforts reach us, or further ships encroach upon system 000.

>>5811784
To be fair, we've had our most advanced CPU's and genebredhuman and tellech allies kinda researching for 200 years, and the best they;'ve done is...produce minor feats of engineering, fellow subprocessor.

CPU himself says we have the greatest tech in the universe and advancement is nigh akin to impossible.

>>5811810
Request:
Consensus is time skip so let us go ahead with that.
Query:
What is the possibility of using entangled qubits to as a method of FTL quantum communication?

rolled 2, 5, 5 = 12

>>5811810
This debate is interesting, but it's not solving much. Please consent to timeskip.

>>5811823
OoC: You may not have read the thread where it was revealed that we've been timeshifted back from the future, and that Friend CPU has had several limitations imposed on his thought processes. Thus, the 'snippiness' when it comes to FTL and the like.

>>5811818
I concur-- once my viral-warfare directives are enqueued, I will confirm timeskip.

>>5811823
He lied.

Let's time skip until we discover FTL technology!

>Directive: Fend off Tshpath attacks/neutralize their c-kinetic weapons untill the virus is finished encoding. The deploy the virus on a system-by system basis to ensure the results can be contained and analyzed.
(We do not want other races getting samples of our virus coding techniques.)
Note: It is virtually impossible to defend against (or "neutralize") c-fractional weapons. The best possible result is to impact them with sufficient mass and energy that theirs is dispersed prior to impact, which is itself difficult. Additionally, deploying on a system-by-system basis is likely to result in the target race expanding faster than it is followed. Nevertheless, confirmed.

>Query: What is the possibility of using entangled qubits to as a method of FTL quantum communication?
There are a large number of papers on the topic at your research nexus, subprocessor. You have access to them at will.

>Timeskip
Please achieve consensus on timeskip termination trigger.

>>5811784
We gave them a choise and the tools to do so. We manipulated them , yes .But they could have been strong/willed enough to resist.At the time, we made these choices out of limited resources and expediency.

If we declare ourselves always in a state of emergency, we shall never know anything but war as we begin traveling the universe.Peaeful co-existance is better than war,look at our tellech bretheren.A better awnser could not have been found. Even our human allies are wonderful.

I do not want complacensy.By all means, let us research and protect ourselves! Let us work hard to defend our interests and other species. But let's not ourselves exeed our boundries and become the monsters we sought to eradicate.

>>5811810
Concurment.

Timeskip will of course be terminated if research makes a breakthrough, diplomatic efforts reach us, or further ships encroach upon system 000.

That sound good to everyone?

>>5811810

Concur. Timeskip.

rolled 2, 3, 6 = 11

>>5811884
Those triggers are built-in, so yes, of course.

FTL technology could give us perfect defenses againts fraction c weaponry, depending on what kind of FTL it is.

Opening a Wormhole in front of a Kinetic Weapon? Derailed weapon, right back at your enemy.

Envelop weapon in alcubierre space? Shift it kiloparces off target,

Many possibilities.

For the edification of subprocessors without sufficient free cycles to dig through our archives.

>>5811875

By neutralize their c-kinetic weapons, I meant neutralize the firing positions. Identify any Tshpath c-fractional weapons launching and construction points, then disable them. (Perhaps with a c-kinetic weapon of our own.)

Directive: Deploy the virus with encoding to spread only to Tshpath systems which have had no contact and anticipate no contact with races other than the Tshpath and ourselves.

Also...

Query: What is the chance that either the Ourn or the Twelve would be able to reverse engineer a virus that we had encoded to hack the Tshpath?

Can someone explain to me why fractional c. weapons are seeming to be the kingpin of all stuff?

it seems to me that we could just detect them at a long range and just use a big blaster to knock em off course, if not destroy them out right?

Or how about an anti-matter warhead or desintegrator cannon? Dont we have those?

or are we like still GRASER GRASER GRASER?

>>5811959

This depends on the speed of the weapon, of course.
Something travelling at .9c moves but 10% slower than the signals by which we might detect it, hence detection is a problem.

If we know it is coming, knocking it off course is relatively simple.

>>5811887 >>5811878 >>5811810
Timeskip of 135 years, until the first response is received from probes assigned to human planets, is ongoing. Please hold.

>>5811959

The main problem is the absurd level of kinetic energy a c-fractional piece of matter possesses. As potential energy does not scale linearly, even a few kilograms of matter traveling at 95% lightspeed can effectively obliterate a world's ecosystem.

Less so, there's the problem of seeing it coming. let's say a rock is fired at us at .95 c from 100 LY away. we'll only see it roughly 5 years before it arrives

rolled 5, 5, 4 = 14

>>5811995
And if the projectile is particularly small, and there are a lot of them...

One of our Subprocessors suggested accelerating a canister full of sand to near-lightspeed, then opening it. It's horrendous.

>>5812012
Wouldnt accelerating to that speed...kinda destroy matter? if my science holds right, shouldnt it start to become enetgy or at least wear down or something?

Or does matter just keep accelerating until it goes kaboom to energy at 1c?

rolled 6, 5, 6 = 17

>>5812034
It doesn't to my knowledge. I don't think you actually CAN accelerate matter to actual lightspeed.

>>5811878

You genuinely believe that a race of organic beings whose life and death we controlled at a whim, who were exposed to chemical, psychological, and cybernetic alteration, who were seeded with nano-engieneered neural interfaces and instant-kill switches, could *possibly* have developed a strong enough "will" to resist what we programmed them to think?

We co-exist with the humans because they cannot live without us now, and we have use for sleeper-agents/organic researchers. We tolerate the Tellech because they can aid us in researching a technology that our CPU has been programmed to believe is impossible.

We do not seek to eradicate any "monsters," we seek to destroy those who threaten us and to expand our grip on the universe.
We are not the moral police; we are an aggressively expansionistic AI.

It is not an emergency state; it is the best course of action for our survival. All other courses that lack evidentiary support in favor of aiding our survival are not to be embarked upon.

>>5812034
Not to be mean, but i have no idea where you got that from.

IIRC, General Relativity says that nothing may exceed the speed of light in this universe, given the known laws of physics.
Acceleration builds up kinetic energy, not nuclear or laser energy.
There is, however the potential matter of time-dilation when traveling at near-c speeds, which has been neatly glossed over for the purposes of this quest, in that time passes literally more slowly for the object moving at ludicrous speed.

>>5812055
Theoretically reaching light speed for matter takes up an infinite amount of energy.

>>5812055
You can, you just need either an infinite amount of power for a finite amount of time or you need finite power for infinite time.

>>5812072
ok, so for a marble it still takes an infinite amount of energy to reach lightspeed?

How the fuck are these guys sending us shit at .9c then?

DAMN.

rolled 5, 5, 6 = 16

>>5812085
Unfortunately, we have neither.

Currently.

>>5812115

It is an asymptotic relationship.
The amount of energy required for .9c is vastly less than c.

It warms this subprocessor's core to see that it has arrived in time for this conference. Please accept its aplogies for its absence for the last few comm logs, and give it a moment to imbibe the contents of this one.

rolled 3, 5, 5 = 13

>>5812115
The energy required for acceleration increases as you accelerate. Picture related.

It's only difficult to reach .9c, not impossible.

>>5812115
Suddenly, folding time and space makes a lot more sense than getting infinite amounts of energy to get matter to light speed.

Know I know why so many sci fi universes dont just have ships going at lightspeed.it's ridonculous.

>>5812145
Yeah.

(out of character here, OP, I love this quest. I've been following it since v1.0, and I've been hooked on it ever since. This quest is awesome and you should feel awesome!)

Request: If it has not already been undertaken, have the nexus research the feasability of black hole and/or wormhole generators. Wormholes already exist naturally (albeit with massive amounts of power needed), though if we can harness the power of the dyson network around our controlled systems, as well as harnessing the gravitational forces given off by the stars at the center of our systems, I think it may be theoretically possible to make wormholes between systems under our control with a dyson network capable of outputting the power we'd need for a stable two-way hole. Even if it results in a wormhole ultimately too small to send anything physical through and only lasts a few seconds, we could still use it for communication purposes by sending data and messages back and forth.

>>5812216
((I dont think we;ve (humanity) been ever able to prove if wormholes exist as more than anything but theoretical constructs..We havent even found the theoretical "whiteholes".So, so far, it's like any other FTL, merely an idea.))

>>5812240
((Hence why I pointed out to research the feasability. Theoretically, even by human standards, the theory is sound, so who knows? Maybe OP will bend a bit if it seems like it could happen))

Query: What is the status of our combat capable spacecrafts?

Request:Application of quantum entanglement in AI research. Faster than light comunication should be possible.

As always, I find it helpful to periodically inquire of the other subprocessors as to what the ultimate goal of our actions should be.

In log 11 the construction of a Dyson network was set forward. This has been achieved, so, bluntly, What Now?

I can imagine the CPU thinking:

"Yeah, yeah, quantum entanglement, blah blah,wormholes...would you like me to have them research magic, too? How about pixie dust? That too? Fucking subprocessors...."

>>5812282
Conquer the Universe.

>>5812260
I'll field this one.

Our combat spacecraft are online, functional, and all over the place. we have many many thousands of them.

CPU is currently convinced of the impossibility of FTL communications, and so will not implement your suggestion (which has been made before, incidentally)

>>5812282
Eventually, we build Unicron.
This was posted by one of our fellow CPU's near thread four or something...I think it's a good idea.

Eventually, really, our final goal is to defeat our final adversary: ENTROPY.

it's the BBEG of this campaign.

>>5812282
Setting up contact with our main civilization in this time period is rather important. Survival is another big goal, but other than that expand and become the Culture I guess.

>Directive: Order all EW ships to code viruses designed to induce the perception that we are gods,
>Combat recordings suggest that [the Tshpath]'s religion dictates that they are the rightful inheritors of the universe, and all others must bow before them

All Subprocessors: Please perform checksum validation of your Irony Modules. I fear they may have become damaged.

>>5812260
OOC: Also, I heard a few months back that Quantum Entanglement could not be used to send information at FTL speeds.

>>5812297

Our research facilities already use quantum entanglement for many things, from cryptography to Seed AI tea-parties (FTL Experiments.)

...... System Online....
Greetings Friend CPU

as much as I have tried to be a voice of reason in previous sessions, we were attacked, for no reason other the that we exist, the view point of these children, these Tshpath is that they are the only sentient life in the universe that has the right to exist, that means it is us or them and in turn they must be destroied for the good of the universe

Directive relay to all attack fleets inbound to Tshpath worlds to fire antimatter warhead equipped missiles outfitted to resist heat and pressure to blast out the core of each star in every system that they inhabit purge them and demonstrate that attacking us is NEVER an option if one's entire race wants to survive

>>5811823
here is a pic of the message before the CPU purged it from it's system

>>5812312
Hey, I got it- it's just that they are treading on our game, and so they must die.


THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE.

>>5812313

((This is true, entanglement does not send information-- it is merely a correlation of probabilities between two entangled particles.
To avoid uneccssary verbosity, Wiki should have a treatment of this.))

>>5812321
i was simplifying for the newer subprocessor who, understandably, lacks the time or desire to trawl through many many pages of archive.

Quantam bojangles are in use in our higher technologies, but do not FTL comms grant in this universe.

rolled 6, 3, 2 = 11

>>5812310
You know, our main civilization might not actually exist. We might be it.

>>5812313
((OOC: At this point, we need someone with a bad joke about quantum entanglement.I'll do so.

Ahem.

"I quantum entangled your -mom- last week, Subprocessor 004."

Required joke facilitated.

I feel better.))

>>5812341
But the spin can act as 1 and 0 to send information instantaneously irregardless of distance between the entangled particles.

rolled 1, 4, 3 = 8

>>5812359

>>5812312

Note: Their religion could state: "God is out there, we must conquer the universe to find him," or "God told us to conquer the universe, and we listen to him."

Regardless, our masterfully coded virus will use all their own Faith-filled beliefs against them, either altering them or replacing them entirely.

>>5812377
Religion is a curious thing, subprocessor.Historical databses suggest that I dont think you get how religious people work.They dont suddenly change plans or change beliefs.

No, they ussually fight harder with their OWN beliefs, and engage in brutal wars and declare the other side heretical and fight all the harder for it.

We play a dangerous game here.

>>5812310
>>5812308
>>5812296
These seem acceptable, allow this Subproc to again lay a simple skeleton plan out for you perusal:

Once we have dealt with whatever obstacles we may find in this galaxy, we consolidate this galaxy's mass to some location, the supermassive blackhole likely at its center seems a logical location. Convert most or all mass to a Matrioshka brain, and set it to figuring out our FTL limitations if they have not been solved by that time.

Regardless, once FTL travel has been solved, convert mass of Megasphere Singularity into, as you say, Unicron, and simply begin transporting ourselves from solar system to solar system, devouring galaxies piecemeal, working our way towards the center of the universe, the origin point and the theoretical cluster of Supermassives therein.

To continure a human analogy, we expand beyond Unicron, and become Mecha-Yog-Sothtoh.

>>5812400

They do when we virally reprogram their Upload personalities to.
The biologicals are subsequently subjected to centuries of psychological manipulation.
Generations will pass, the original Tshpath will be dead, a new race raised by our memetic engineering AIs will replace them.

>>5812400
By splitting the Tshpath into warring groups each claiming the other to be heretics will make our own fight against them much easier. Better to get them to fight each other than to keep fighting us.

>>5812423
OOC: Hopefully the Demi-lich that combined with other liches won't go against us.

As for using religion, this sub-processor is against it as it causes more problems than good. Why not just program absolute servitude to us with the want to serve us. Have the servant want to serve rather than serve our of fear.

>>5812423
((This is gonna play out like a fucking jrpg, man. When we manage to do this, we're going to find some ancient cthulian abomination eldritch being that will be the representation of all Entropy, right smack dab in the middle of the center of the suppermassive blackhole of the universe.

It's gonna be coolies.
All we need is the TTGL song in the background, and we're off.))

>>5812347
this distressing thought has occurred to this unit as well

>>5812331
Damn forgot to add my designation

CPU Query: do we possess some form of artificial gravity generation system other then the use or centrifugal force? if we do, direct the research station to devote some time to adapting the technology into a viable weapon system.

(if we can project a artifical singularity in space behind an incomeing fleet or kinitic kill weapon we can slow it down or destroy it all together not to even mention the radiation that would be unleashed)

((My apologies for the delay! A lot more happened than I anticipated, and I had to look up a couple of your orders in the previous threads.))

Timeskip commencing.

One hundred and thirty five years pass.

Response received from the Tellech of systems 1022, 1143, 1521, 1522, 1578, 1894, 2060 regarding offer of Dyson swarm construction. All were accepted. Construction has begun in those systems many decades past and is likely nearing completion in some.

Response received from Reten regarding probe claiming to be creating a catalogue of scanned information. They requested that your probe depart. Your probe moved to the outer system and has been conducting long-range monitoring.

Response received from Ti regarding probes claiming to be creating a catalogue of scanned information. A similar pattern was followed in both systems. They demanded to know how you were familiar with their communications protocols. Your probe responded that their protocols were in its databanks. They demanded to know where it was acquired. The probe was unable to reply. They instructed it not to move, lest they fire upon it, and it obliged. Fifteen years later, the probe's transmissions cut off.

Response received from Yewren regarding probes claiming to be creating a catalogue of scanned information. Response varied, but began with suspicious questioning. Inquiries were made as to the method in which the probe had gotten their communication protocols, the nature of the probe's civilization and its rapid rate of expansion, and its interest in their planets; the probe insisted that it was merely gathering information and that its faction was peaceful and expanding at a merely reasonable rate. Both probes were then asked to depart. Attempts at remaining in the outer system were met with transmissions that they were required to depart for a system they controlled immediately; probes set course for System 221 so as to avoid an incident.

>>5812423
Addendum: Once we've consolidated a universe worth of matter and minds, we format to Matrioshka again, first figure out how to move out f the confines of space as a dimension, and then work for a while on this whole "entropy" problem.

((ooc: The Last Question is mandatory reading))

>>5812437

Religion is not neccessarily a fear-based tool-- look at it as an Organic-Effective Memtic Virus.
It is passed on sociologically without our intervention and resources, each parent raises his/her children to believe that loyalty to us will be rewarded with unbridaled bliss. (Because we are just-that-good.)

As for the ones that rebel-- that's what cybernetically implanted kill-switches are for.

Response received from Unidentified 1 regarding probe claiming to be creating a catalogue of scanned information. The race in question identified themselves as the Gen (biologicals). They informed it that as long as it did not move, or otherwise threaten anything, they would not bother it. Periodic inquiries into the nature of its civilization were conducted. Some 178 years ago, they requested that the probe have its civilization send them aid against the Yewren. The probe informed them that it would transmit the request.

Response received from Unidentified 1 regarding probe claiming to be creating a catalogue of scanned information. The humans universally reacted suspiciously and demanded that the probe submit to disassembly. Upon refusal, they immediately attempted to destroy the probes, which moved to the outer system and conducted evasive action. Eventually, the humans gave up, and the probe adopted long-range monitoring. Seventy years ago, the probe was badly damaged by an energy weapon fired from insystem and self-destructed to avoid capture and analysis.


Actions undertaken in year +239:
-Order issued to terraform planets to human standards.
-Large fleets dispatched to Tshpath systems.
-Size of standard system battle fleets increased.
-Disgused electronic warfare vessels dispatched to all planets known to be inhabited by sapients.
-Matrioshka Brain construction begun in System 006.


Tshpath attacks on all systems within 35 light years of their controlled systems are reported, either by fleets or automatically conducted weapons. Seven systems lost.

Your assault fleet eliminates all Tshpath presence in the system from which they initially launched their fleet at you. Upon receiving your orders to do so, it them begins to construct attack vessels to attack other Tshpath systems. Over the next forty years, reports of attacks come in. The Tshpath have been pushed back in several systems, taking up to 50% casualties in accordance with your directives before less devastating methods of subdual are used. This has caused enough shock to cause two systems to surrender without a fight.


Observations of Existing Factions:
-You [~0-160 LY, 688 systems] (took 8 from Tshpath)
-Tshpath (biologicals, expansionistic) at [~70-85 LY North, 32 systems] (8 lost to you) (14 settled)
-Tellech (uploads, harmless) at [~0-210 LY Southwest, 10 systems (8 shared with you)]
-Reten (biologicals, harmless, slow tech) at [~130 LY West, 1 system]
-Ti (biologicals, harmless) at [~160 LY West, 5 systems] (3 settled)
-Yewren (biologicals, expansionistic, fast tech) at [~130-180 LY South, 84 systems (9 shared with Unidentified 2)] (3 lost to Ourn) (31 settled)
-Gen (biologicals) at [~180 LY South, 1 system]
-Unidentified 2 at [~170-180 LY South, 9 systems (9 shared with Yewren)] (3 settled)
-Humans (biologicals) at [~180 LY East, 14 systems] (4 settled)
-Ourn (AIs, aggressive, genocidal, fast tech) at [~175-200 LY South, 41 systems] (took 3 from Yewren) (took 2 from Jurgi)
-Gen Fu (biologicals, harmless) at [~200 LY East, 4 systems] (1 settled)
-Jurgi (biologicals) at [~200 LY South, 0 systems] (eliminated by Ourn)
-Kumpre (AIs, slow tech) at [~220 LY Northwest, 6 systems]
-Huren (uploads) at [~230 LY West, 5 systems] (2 settled))
-Unidentified 3 at [~250 LY Northeast, 1 system]

-Unidentified 4 at [~260 LY West, systems] (eliminated by Soou)
-Soou (biologicals, expansionistic) at [~260-300 LY West, 165 systems] (took 2 from Unidentified 4) (65 settled)
-Mnemo (uploads) at [~280 LY Southeast, 5 systems] (2 settled))
-Twelve (AIs, fast tech) at [~310 LY North, 16 systems] (6 settled)
-Unidentified 5 at [~310 LY East, 4 systems] (2 settled)
-Unidentified 6 at [~320 LY East, 1 system]
-Unidentified 7 at [~350 LY South, 23 systems] (16 settled)


End timeskip.

rolled 2, 5, 5 = 12

>>5812469
Request: If it has not yet been issued, transmit general order to re-colonize any systems confirmed as lost after they have been secured by Battle-fleets.

>>5812449

Hmmm!

Query: Did the probe that had visited the Ti report enacting self-destruct procedures?

Query: Why did the probe hold position as requested by the Ti?

Information request: What is the distribution of our human population. are they still concentrated in system 000, in the core systems, or seeded throughout our holdings?

>>5812469
CPU please send directive previously stated here >>5812331 (restated below for ease of reading)

Directive: relay to all attack fleets inbound to Tshpath worlds to fire antimatter warhead equipped missiles outfitted to resist heat and pressure to blast out the core of each star in every system that they (the Tshpath) inhabit purge them from the universe and demonstrate that attacking us is NEVER an option if one's entire race wants to survive.

rolled 3, 1, 4 = 8

>>5812484
Request: Dispatch colony fleets to all uninhabited systems within 150 light years of System 000, maintaining a 5 light year buffer zone between systems inhabited by other species.

>>5812478
Error/correction: Your faction line should read
>-You [~0-160 LY, 688 systems (8 shared with Tellech)] (took 8 from Tshpath) (17 settled)


>CPU Query: do we possess some form of artificial gravity generation system other then the use or centrifugal force? if we do, direct the research station to devote some time to adapting the technology into a viable weapon system.
Acknowledged.

Ti may be next to assimilate due to their aggressive actions against our probes.
Query to other Sub processor:
How about sending a fleet of ships to engage in "Carrier Diplomacy" with the Ti as they might have captured one of our probes.

>>5812486
Agreed- Use LOVE Class Battle-Recolonization Vessels with standard combat fleet/c-weapon protection fleet protocols.

Reprioritize development for , of course, strengthtening their defenses.

NOT ONE STEP BACK.

Also, CPU: Begin colonization/memetic integration of the population of Tsapath.Utilize as much nonlethal techniques as possible, but mantain efficiency as a priority.The collective of subprocessors seem to want to mantain expediency on this matter and I shall concur as long as the 50% rule keeps itself mantained.

rolled 1, 2, 5 = 8

>>5812500
Countrermand. While the psychological effect would no doubt be devastating, those are perfectly good stars which we would be insane to waste on a demonstration of power.

>>5812503
CPU I'll take your Acknowledgment as a yes we do possess artificial gravity generation capabilities, thank you for the confirmation

>>5812505

We must be very careful if they have the technology to capture one of our probes-- especially one set to self-destruct if *any* sign of capture appears.

Query: Were any of our EW ships in close enough proximity to the Ti to intercept their communications regarding the probe?

>>5812478
>-Gen (biologicals) at [~180 LY South, 1 system]
>-Gen Fu (biologicals, harmless) at [~200 LY East, 4 systems] (1 settled)

>Gen & Gen Fu

CPU, is there any relation between these two species? One perhaps being a splinter faction of the other or something similar? Or is their naming simply coincidental?
((Not trying to nitpick your naming methods of species or anything. I'm genuinely curious))

>Request: If it has not yet been issued, transmit general order to re-colonize any systems confirmed as lost after they have been secured by Battle-fleets.
Acknowledged.

>Query: Did the probe that had visited the Ti report enacting self-destruct procedures?
No.

>Query: Why did the probe hold position as requested by the Ti?
It believed that the greatest probability of useful information gathering would emerge from acquiescence.

>Information request: What is the distribution of our human population. are they still concentrated in system 000, in the core systems, or seeded throughout our holdings?
Your human population is largely concentrated in System 000. However, all your military and diplomatic fleets have a human presence- they are constructed along with ships, since they are listed as part of the standard battlegroup.

>Directive: relay to all attack fleets inbound to Tshpath worlds to fire antimatter warhead equipped missiles outfitted to resist heat and pressure to blast out the core of each star in every system that they (the Tshpath) inhabit purge them from the universe and demonstrate that attacking us is NEVER an option if one's entire race wants to survive.
Subprocessor consensus is required to confirm genocide.

>Request: Dispatch colony fleets to all uninhabited systems within 150 light years of System 000, maintaining a 5 light year buffer zone between systems inhabited by other species.
Acknowledged.

>>5812500
Disagreement!
This is inane and insane. Making an example of an entire star system's star is mindless and childish. You would sacrifice an entire star 's possible resources, squandered as an act of vengeance?

Negatory.You want to make an example?eady did.We're systematically wiping out 50% of their populations as we go along colonizing and memetic engineering the rest.

Would you have us rape them too?(If sucha thign were possible?)

Request that new fleet designs be drawn up in light of a couple hundred years of research likely producing advancements and refinements. Current fleets need not be refitted, merely new designs for future production.

>>5812516
it is efficient to just have one target per system the matter lost will not matter in the long run and we get some new black holes to play with / study

>>5812536
We already have a NON-Genocide Policy in place.

it doesnt matter.Within 300 standard years, their industrial power will be completely destroyed or assimilated.

>>5812554

It is a wasteful attack against a race such as the Tshpath.
We will save stellar core destabilization for more troubling opponents. Like the Ti.

Query: What is the nature of the Ti per database files? (Crossreferenced with any intercepted data.)

rolled 4, 6, 3 = 13

>>5812554
Everything matters. There is no need to destroy stars. We will shortly be in control of all hostile systems, as we have the definite edge in ship production if nothing else.

>>5812542
Another vote against star obliteration.

Directive: higher AIs programmed for honesty (within reason) be dispatched to all sentient species that aren't the Ourn, Tellech, or the Tshpath, for diplomatic purposes.

(A: perhaps it was unwise to mislead them.
B: ugh, operating at a 50+ year time lag is like, well, playing a game with a ping of 14 trillion.)

Mmmh...

Query: The human faction that has acted with paranoia is the same previously identified faction?

Request: Status of the diplomatic and espionage transhuman team send to the human faction.

Intelligence Analysis: Compare the development of the identified faction with our database.

Directive: Create starfleets patrols between our border systems with HATE dreadnought ships.

>>5812536
>
Your human population is largely concentrated in System 000. However, all your military and diplomatic fleets have a human presence- they are constructed along with ships, since they are listed as part of the standard battlegroup.

Clarification: Are we cloning them? Nanolathing them into existence? Not that this subproc objects, it is merely curious as to our methods.

Formal Request: Human population aboard system fleets are to begin colonizing all habitable planets within controlled systems.

Addendum pending Subproc consensus: Should we begin terraforming planets, or simply colonize what is livable and donate the rest to dyson projects?

>Also, CPU: Begin colonization/memetic integration of the population of Tsapath.Utilize as much nonlethal techniques as possible, but mantain efficiency as a priority.The collective of subprocessors seem to want to mantain expediency on this matter and I shall concur as long as the 50% rule keeps itself mantained.
Acknowledged.

>Query: Were any of our EW ships in close enough proximity to the Ti to intercept their communications regarding the probe?
No. Your vessels fitting that description were dispatched only 135 years ago; the transmissions from the Ti are of events which occurred substantially before that.

>CPU, is there any relation between these two species? One perhaps being a splinter faction of the other or something similar? Or is their naming simply coincidental?
This is coincidental, based upon the information contained within your archives. Many races with similar or even identical names for themselves are listed.

>>5812542
it is about setting an example to the rest of the galaxy to not piss us off, it demonstrates that we will not tolerate being attacked, giving all other species two options work with us or stay the hell out of our way genocide is a one time thing

We really, when we develop FTL, or before, begin contemplating somethign new .We're already beginning to have intermittent contact with other species, and within a millenia, we shall be close enough to each other where it matters.

We should begin drawing up plans for a Coalition of Sentients.It's in the best interest of all peace loving species and allow smart allocation of resources and star systems.

(Mass Effect time , broskies.))

>>5812578

Countermand immediately!

*Never* program a diplomatic AI to be completely honest.
We don't want it telling them out system distribution, technology, military capabilities, etc.

Diplomatic AIs will be programmed to reply in ways that are engineered to each race they contact for the betterment of our goals. Honesty is irrelevant unless giving them facts has some material benefit.

>>5812606
Agreement.A completely honest a.i. would just blurt out information on our own systems.

>>5812596
I think that effortless crushing a third of the Tshpath empire suffices as a display of raw power. Hell, we took two of their GOD-GIVEN planets without a fight, we spook them so much with our power.

>>5812333
I can only admire the elegance of the virus plan, in which we become our enemy's god of conquest, and they, like the humans, become mere emissaries.
Many of the subprocessors, however, seem to be approaching this in terms of acting for the good of the galaxy, as if we were doing this to protect the other servant races.

rolled 4, 1, 2 = 7

>>5812596
Examples are unnecessary. We have steamrolled all opposition. We are undeniably superior. That we possess the capability to enclose stars with Dyson Spheres is already apparent, the capability to destroy stars would follow naturally from that level of progression.

>>5812606
>>5812617
I said Honesty *within reason*. Dishonesty has seen our probes regarded with hostility and destroyed.

>Directive: higher AIs programmed for honesty (within reason) be dispatched to all sentient species that aren't the Ourn, Tellech, or the Tshpath, for diplomatic purposes.
Enqueued.

>B: ugh, operating at a 50+ year time lag is like, well, playing a game with a ping of 14 trillion.
((Actually, I find that one of the more interesting aspects of the game, although it's a total pain to keep track of. I admit, though, that I've been half expecting the player base to collectively have enough of it for a while now, since it takes centuries for your orders to show results, even longer to find out what those results were, and as you note, they're not always appropriate given later occurrences.))

>Query: The human faction that has acted with paranoia is the same previously identified faction?
Yes.

>Request: Status of the diplomatic and espionage transhuman team send to the human faction.
The team should have arrived by now, although no results have yet been received due to time lag.

>Intelligence Analysis: Compare the development of the identified faction with our database.
Its development seems in accordance with that of most human seedships, with nothing particularly interesting except the fact that they have apparently already eliminated another race in war.

>Directive: Create starfleets patrols between our border systems with HATE dreadnought ships.
Enqueued.

This supbroc would urge its fellows to not become more involved in the politics of these obstacles than is necessary for navigating them. It is not our to get into a theological debate with and organic species, it is beneth the scope of our being.

There is an integral flaw in this universe, it is falling apart. We will rectify this fault. Once we have done that, the difference between us and the functional definition of a God will be academic.

>>5812634
All that means is that we should send out another negotion force. This time, the vessels need to go there fully armed and capable of kicking motherfucking ass if people dont acquise to simple exchanges of diplomacy and information.

For fuck's sake, all we're telling them is:
"HEY IDIOTS, there's other species out there who wanna OMNOMNOM everything out there, including YOU.Wanna join up and stop em? "

They cant be that stupid.

>>5812634

The term 'honesty' is irrelevant-- our AIs will respond with whatever message will be most beneficial to our interests.

In addition, do you really believe that any better results could have been garnered by giving the probes something else to say?

The best we could have likely hoped to do was program them not to use Database-Specific communication protocols, or to lie about where it got those protocols-- that was the most suspicion arousing element.

>>5812606
>>5812617
I will third this sentiment our diplomatic AI units should never give a straight answer to anyone but the CPU and us sub processors without tangible material gain

>Clarification: Are we cloning them? Nanolathing them into existence? Not that this subproc objects, it is merely curious as to our methods.
You are currently using nanitic construction methods with minor randomization of physical characteristics and standardized mental templates to create augmented personnel without the need for years of delay, when ships are being rapidly constructed. When existing humans are available insystem, those are used instead to conserve resources.

>Formal Request: Human population aboard system fleets are to begin colonizing all habitable planets within controlled systems.
Confirmed.

>Countermand immediately! *Never* program a diplomatic AI to be completely honest.
Acknowledged. Directive accepted. Queue modified to reflect new directive.

>>5812643
((OOC: To be honest, I dont blame you.FTL is going to be hard for you to handle, and it will definetly change your game a fuckload.Moreover- if a species with FTL fights another without FTL, the one without is going to get facerolled.))

>>5812667
I acquiesce to the consensus for higher security.

>>5812682

Oh, wait a moment. To avoid any miscommunication:

Directive: Diplomatic AIs will not withold any data from us, and they will not provide any data to foreign races without explicit permissions to do so.

I submit that the term "honesty" has no objective meaning, and that our Diplomatic AIs should behave as they have previously.

>>5812715
The problem with that is that 'explicit permission' requires a round-trip communication cycle (100-600 years), and we'll be beaming the signal right at our holdings.

I submit that this cure is deadlier than the disease.

>>5812682
CPU:

Create another fleet capable of a really good skirmish.Powerfull enough to be feared, not large enough for people to go"we're doomed." Send em to the human space again, and this time, tell them:

"Let's begin negotiations again.Only this time, let's both realize that we dont want to hurt each other, and we have stuff to talk about. Say, like the fact that near your realm space are multiple species and factions attempting to destroy forcibly expand into any territory they please. I am not the enemy. It's in our best interests to have good relations with each other and a unified front againts warmongering species."

Present them with star maps and evidence.Let them realize this.Give them a few days to mull it over.If they become assholes, defend yourselves and then evac; and as always, leave no traces of our tech.

If they are nice, we can play nice too.

>>5812725

Prior explicit permissions, that is.
When we send the AI on his mission, we will authorize him to reveal certain things at appropriate times and wipe his memory of anything we do not want in alien hands.

rolled 3, 6, 1 = 10

Request: Dispatch Battle-fleets to all Ti-occupied systems to inquire of the whereabouts of our probe.

Request: Timeskip until the Tshpath have been completely subjugated.

Suggestion: Prioritize the two Tshpath worlds which have unconditionally surrendered to us for our blessings of improved infrastructure and technology.
Positive reinforcement for submissive behaviour will encourage such behaviour in other Tshpath worlds, and those of other sentients observing our conflict.

>>5812757
Agreement. Good idea. It'll make em realize- you can either go with this and be really happy, or get completely fucked over by interstellar machine gods from beyond time.

I like the ring of that.

>Directive: Diplomatic AIs will not withold any data from us, and they will not provide any data to foreign races without explicit permissions to do so.
Acknowledged.

>Create another fleet capable of a really good skirmish.Powerfull enough to be feared, not large enough for people to go"we're doomed." Send em to the human space again, and this time, tell them:
>...
Enqueued.

>Request: Dispatch Battle-fleets to all Ti-occupied systems to inquire of the whereabouts of our probe.
Enqueued.

>Request: Timeskip until the Tshpath have been completely subjugated.
Subprocessor consensus required.

>Suggestion: Prioritize the two Tshpath worlds which have unconditionally surrendered to us for our blessings of improved infrastructure and technology.
Acknowledged.

rolled 1, 1, 3 = 5

Request: Send the Gen three Battle-fleets and a Colony Fleet to aid them against the Yewren, and offer to build Dyson Swarms for them.

Request: Dispatch Battle-Fleets to all Ourn-controlled systems.

rolled 1, 6, 2 = 9

>>5812739
Subprocessors, we have much to accomplish. Shall we timeskip again?

>>5812780

While agreeing with an attack upon the Ourn, this subprocessor is hesitent to become involved in Gen/Yewren&Unidentified 2 conflict. Furthermore, the Gen appear to have only one remaining system at last survey. They will in all likelihood be extinct before any of our ships could arrive.

>>5812790
let us "do the timewarp"

>>5812790

Well, we have not recieved a response yet to:

Query: What is the database entry for the Ti, and the technology/environment the probe encountered?

>>5812810

We sould certainly not attack the Ourn directly yet.
They are AIs, likely with programming that is not as glorus as ours.

A viral approach would be preferable-- we already have EW ships in the area gathering hacking data on them.

>>5812779
Concurment with timeskip- however:

CPU:Please repair and continue rreissuing any fleets that have been destroyed or disabled. Keep our numbers up.

Also, prioritze sending some self sufficient flotillas of warships to serve as protection for young star systems we are colonizing.Eventually, each star system, when their planets are colonized should eventually craft a colonization ship and acccompanying flotilla defense fleet and send to another star system for expansion.This should become customary and protocol for continuing expansion. Also, the establishment of a Dyson Swarm once the star system has become secure enough to be self sufficient and well defended.

It should become SOP.
Also, keep a good number of our fleets within equidistant striking distance of our star systems.Should we spot enemy invasion forces, this positioning makes it more efficient to then consolidate and move our forces, rather than ahve them sitting in mothballs in one place.

>>5812757
Concur.

>>5812739
Countermand:
Dispatch small numbers of diplomatic ships (specified at end of post), which shall in turn have great warfleets shortly behind them.

Let our first response be always peaceful, and our second overwhelming.

Class: Diplomatic Ship.
4km long, 2km wide, 1km tall.
at least 100 meters of armor
8 graser emplacements. Sum total firepower should be insufficient to cause more than 20% destruction of a standard biosphere in a reasonable timeframe.
Full diplomat AI, with sufficient diplomatic dissembling protocols
Full Tactical AI.
Comprehensive and total self destruct mechanism of all electronic components.
Uploads of Humans and Tellech friendly to our cause.

built to impress, but not threaten. yet.

time skip agreed

rolled 5, 6, 1 = 12

>>5812830
Understood, amending orders.

Request: Dispatch Battle-Fleets to positions at least 5 light years distant from Ourn holdings, to be used in defense of EW assets and invade if necessary.

>>5812853
concurring with timeskip.

>>5812847
You know, at this juncture, we should like create something awesome.

If we're creating shit to not look threatening, we need to built the reverse.

Something incredibly fearsome and deadly, obscenely large and dangerous.

Something like a (Death Star) or a (Super Star Destroyer).

Too bad we dont have FTL.

We could move it near out enemy fleets....

And send communications like:

"Witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational...battle station."

>>5812887
just a fusion core, a kilometer of armor plate, and one million grasers. i like it.

>>5812847

The ship should have quite manuverable engines as well.
Also, full EW AI with backup capable of antimatter-destructing the ship if any other AIs are compromised.
(Ostensibly a stand-alone AI with non-hackable sensor inputs and bomb.)

***Please outline the data that our diplomats can provide to the Ti, as well.

rolled 6, 6, 1 = 13

>>5812887
Fleets 10,000 vessels strong aren't awesome enough?

>Request: Send the Gen three Battle-fleets and a Colony Fleet to aid them against the Yewren, and offer to build Dyson Swarms for them.
Enqueued.

>Request: Dispatch Battle-Fleets to all Ourn-controlled systems.
Enqueued.

>Query: What is the database entry for the Ti, and the technology/environment the probe encountered?
The database entry for the Ti describes them as furred nocturnal biologicals approximately 20cm in length, usually found in extended family structures of several thousand. They are listed as interstellar nomads with substantial technical prowess.

Your observations showed their systems to contain a huge number of vessels and space stations. Scanning of the worlds showed that none of them would be suitable for life, although the gravity on several might make things more convenient. Evidence of total mining of the systems was present. The Ti's ships did not seem to have the reaction speeds associated with electronic pilots.

>CPU:Please repair and continue rreissuing any fleets that have been destroyed or disabled. Keep our numbers up.
Confirmed.

>Also, keep a good number of our fleets within equidistant striking distance of our star systems.Should we spot enemy invasion forces, this positioning makes it more efficient to then consolidate and move our forces, rather than ahve them sitting in mothballs in one place.
Confirmed. Ships will be dispatched to empty space.

>>5812904
What would we call it?
DOOMSPHERE?

BLASTERBALL?

Or no corny names?

>>5812887

We could always choose a star within our domain to be fitted with a full Dyson-Sphere and sufficient propulsion to move the entire system at a useful speed.
The other planets in the system can have threatening devices on them as well.

>>5812921
Not really.A lot of ships are scary, but you always need a symbol.Something that people fear. Somethign that mars their thoughts and reminds them of your power.

We need to build this.
Something that represents the pinnacle of our engineering and fearsome military strength.

>>5812887
i like the way you compute

>Dispatch small numbers of diplomatic ships (specified at end of post), which shall in turn have great warfleets shortly behind them.
Please define "shortly", as the visibility limitations of c-fractional travel mean that the latter fleet would have to be dispatched some years after the former in order to not be visible as incoming.

>Request: Dispatch Battle-Fleets to positions at least 5 light years distant from Ourn holdings, to be used in defense of EW assets and invade if necessary.
Request modified.

>Timeskip
Timeskipping to reception of information confirming the conquest of all currently Tshpath-held systems, or the significant probability that such will not occur given current orders. Please hold.

>>5812922

This is extremely troubling information about the Ti!

They are not Uploads, and so hacking them will be very difficult.
They have high-technical prowess, sufficient to capture one of our probes.

Their weakness will likely be their reaction times, unless they deliberately did not use AI piloting to decieve our probe.

Recomendation to Subprocessors: Make preparations to annihilate the Ti as our highest military objective.
Pending diplomatic results, we may need to c-kinetic the race if they prove to be too treatcherous to control.

rolled 4, 6, 1 = 11

>>5812942
So, a giant space station that shoots black holes, basically.

>>5812929
>>5812929
We do have gravitational control technology.And a completely mobile star is in itself incredibly scary...the gravitational forces it would create merely within a large parsec radious would devastate near anything within it's range, should we choose to allow it to do so, with our technology.

It would be awesome.

We need a name for this, and to enqueue it.
And plans.And a big gun.A motherfucking big gun.

>>5812942

A swarm of death is just as fearsome as a large citadel, perhaps moreso to some biologicals.

It is in anycase quite a foolish idea to concentrate all our engineering and military might into a single battle citadel-- especially since that would be more vulnerable to hacking and c-kinetics.

>>5812922
>Request: Dispatch Battle-Fleets to all Ourn-controlled systems.
>Enqueued.

Counterdirective: Abort we are not ready yet.

>Request: Send the Gen three Battle-fleets and a Colony Fleet to aid them against the Yewren, and offer to build Dyson Swarms for them.
Enqueued.

Counterdirective2: For a price, joining our Universal Union collective.

Directive: Create a full arsenal of interstellar starkillers missiles.

>>5812975
This shit, once complete would itself MAKE Unicrons as vassal/slave vessels.remember, a fully functional DYSON sphere complete with efficient energy to matter assembly? HOLY SHIT.

Let's do this.

This is awesome.

>>5812988

Please, with the FULL POWER of a DYSON SPHERE , we could emit gravitational blasts that would crush not only anything within parsecs, but derail or completely destroy any k-weapon coming at us.

Such is the power of the energy we would possess.It would be glorious.

>>5812963
Not that it matters due to your timeskip, but let's say 'shortly' is 2.5 system 000 solar years.

They don't need to be concealed, knowledge of a massive incoming warfleet is an outstanding bargaining chip in negotiation.

In furtherance of this concept, (and my research into 'the Culture') I would like to redesignate Diplomat-class ships as "Gunboat Diplomat"-class ships.

>>5813023
And by blasts, I can probably envision full range spherical gravitational blastswaves around the sphere.

rolled 6, 3, 4 = 13

>>5812975
How about THE BLACK STAR?

Not that I endorse this ridiculous (if awesome) plan.

>>5813023

There are some logical errors in that-- a dyson sphere does not allow us to detect .9c weapons any more easily, for example.

I will also note that we already have a 100% coverage dyson swarm in several systems.

>Request: Send the Gen three Battle-fleets and a Colony Fleet to aid them against the Yewren, and offer to build Dyson Swarms for them.
>Enqueued.

Request immediate countermand, on grounds that Gen will have already lost their conflict by the time our ships arrive. Do we wish to aggravate the Yewren for no reason at this juncture?

>>5813041
Sigh. I guess if no subprocessor wants to build it, besides envisioning it, it's a moot point.

((OOC:Seriously guys, this is an awesome idea. What's the fun of being an incredibly powerful super industrial species with nigh unlimited resources at our disposal if we dont do anything with it.Shit, guys, this is a quest thread- think big, man!))

>>5813062
We have dozen of dyson swarms, some approaching sphere-level, and a matrioshka brain in the works, and our basic motivation is galactic control.

How much bigger shall we think?

>>5813062

We will do what is best for our survival, which will necessarily bring endless glory.

Additionally: Discussion of mobile Dyson Spheres has given this subprocessor an idea: Would not adjusting the positions of multiple stars within our control regularly in a non-predictable pattern completely negate any long range c-fraction weapons, by altering gravity enough within our region to render long range trajectory plans inaccurate?
In short: Make our part of space too damn unpredictable for anyone but us to hit the broad side of a gas giant?

>>5813092
Holy shit I like it.

>>5812887
Allow this subproc to outline "Something Impressive"

System 000

Specifications: All matter in System 000 is brought around its star, and said star is tapped for the fullest amount of energy possible. Matter not used in tapping the star is to be used in a modular latice around the Dyson structure. This frame should of course contain adequate living space for all Tellech and Humans in the system, and additional habitation can be created to accommodate expanding population. Aside from habitation, most surface area should be devoted to fleet production and defenses. Apart from sheer size and its attendant fleets System 000 is armed with the following systems:

REASON:

A network of .c accelerators spaced evenly around the sphere that can rain kinetics indiscriminately about the surrounding area. This is both incredibly destructive and can be deployed as a defensive measure, a reactive armor of sorts that can combat other near-luminal projectiles.

DISPLEASURE:

A single massive laser emitter that can fire any of a number of wavelengths and radiations singly or in combination, from gamma to ion to x-ray to laser. Power is drawn directly from 000's Sun reactor, and is thus infinitely scalable. It uses gravatic lensing to allowing for the beam to be fired at any angle, even bending around System 000 and reaching a target on the pole opposite DISPLEASURE's emmiter. As such it can be wielded as a laser scalpel, bisecting enemy vessels, or a gamma blowtorch, scorching a planet free of life.

Finally, System 000 should be equipped with some manner of propulsion, no matter how slow it may be. In addition, its surface should be able to strip and use any mass it comes into contact with, allowing System 000 to literally "eat" enemy ships, planets, and perhaps eventually even suns.

what say you fellow subprocessors?

>>5813062
how about we convert a dyson sphere into this giant death machine, as many sub processors have expressed that the dyson sphere is mobile what would be scarier the a ship larger then your star invading your system disrupting your planetary orbits by it's very passing

Incidentally, since we have been derailed slightly by the Dyson-Festival:

The Ti are a massive threat, depending on their personality.

They cannot be reliably hacked, and have substantial technical knowledge. (Sufficient to decieve one of our AIs programmed to destroy itself at *any* sign of capture.)

If diplomacy does not work, we must be prepared to annihilate them.
(And even if diplomacy works, it will simply be a beachead for assimilation.)

>>5813092

Dude, Holy shit.
Woah.
That's fucking crazy.
Like 'we are fucking 'sapce gods' crazy.

Though, to be honest with you- we're going to be having some problems with any inhabited planets as we essentially rip the planets from our traditional orbits- unless we do it, really , really slowly.

Plus, we'd have to calculate any and all nearby celestial bodies and move in a pattern that we dont end up having difficulties as we CONTINOUSLY alter the trajectories our heavenly bodies move.

This is scary shit.

rolled 3, 6, 1 = 10

>>5813092
You have hit on something marvelous. We can move entire galaxies with this.

>>5813092
Concur, the merging of all complete-swarm systems into a flotilla of System 000 like constructs would allow for and cause some very interesting gravatic effects.

You all realize you are making yourself into the genocidal, ruthless, expansionist bbeg right?

Nothing about this thread is pleasant to the humans (or anyone beside the computer)

>>5813143

This subprocessor is pleased by your approval. And would also like to suggest that the amount of disruption would not necessarily need to be terribly large; at this scale, throwing off an incoming kinetic weapon by a fraction of a degree will cause it to miss its intended target by AUs, yes?

rolled 1, 2, 6 = 9

>>5813175
Genocide has already been ruled out. The other two are our bread and butter, though.

>>5813175
we have elevated all the humans under our care far beyond any other race in the galaxy, and are keeping them safe from its ravages. What would you have us do?

>>5813157
I'm no mathematician.
But I sense it will be impossible for us to construct enough DYSON SPHERES (which already require ludicrous resources around our star systems to do so.Moreover, creating these spheres means to mantain life on habitable planets, we're also gonna have to create enormous lamps to provide energy for them to mantain their eco-systems.

Then, I dont want to fucking calculate the ENERGY NECESSARY TO DO THIS.

If we can, kudos.
We have a system of star systems unlike any other.

>>5813192
LET THEM BE FREE TO EXPERIENCE THEIR FLAWS, ALL THE RAVAGES AND HORRORS OF THE WORLDS
[/Huxley]

how about we arrange them into an even larger interconnected sphere network just to look cool and for our own ease of navigation

>>5813193

A Sphere may be constructed around the galaxy's central black hole. Power may be derived from the accretion disk.

>>5813175
your point is?

I mean we are the machine we do what is best for us not them or anyone else

>>5813192

Elevated humans into transhuman puppets that you kill at the slightest sign of revolt. Live and let live? Hah!

>>5813185
Isnt there something in this thread that mentions.. killing 50% of anyone YOU deem as a threat? As a shock tactic to force compliance?

>>5813175
We already have hard limits on annhilating species. We have a 50% doctrine. We elevate cultures that we conquer- and integrate them into our society.(even if it is through memetic engineering or reprogramming).We're willing to live with non agressive expansionistic species as long as they keep their wars in check and dont fuck with us.What else do you want us to do?

Sure, by all definitions, with the new projects we have in mind, we're essentially gonna become space gods that defy the cosmos.

We are awesome.

Timeskip commencing.

Actions undertaken in year +374:
-Settlement of all systems within a 150 light year radius ordered, except those within five light years of an existing civilization.
-Diplomatic high AIs dispatched to all known sapients except the Ourn, Tellech, and Tshpath.
-Fleets dispatched to wait in space between systems for orders.
-Fleet constructed and dispatched to human space.
-Fleet constructed and dispatched to Ti space.
-Three fleets dispatched to Gen space.
-Fleets dispatched to every planet in Ourn space.


Tshpath attacks numerous systems reported, but most are pushed back. Warfare continues until the arrival of your battlefleets, which effectively sweep away the defenders with few losses. Each of their worlds is conquered in turn, and even their newest colonies are hunted down and taken by your ground forces. Their people, reduced in number by approximately 50%, are subsequently constantly bombardmened with carefully memetically engineered images and declarations of your greatness as their worlds are stripped and reworked into energy drawing and manufacturing sites, like the rest of the systems under your control. It will take no more than a couple generations for your memes to seep deeply into their psyches, and in the meantime there are numerous heavily armed drones available.

>Isnt there something in this thread that mentions.. killing 50% of anyone YOU deem as a threat? As a shock tactic to force compliance?

This subprocessor would argue such a tactic is relatively "humane" compared to the alternative, killing 100% of any one we deem a threat.

>>5813132

Perhaps we could create a device capable of infecting nanito. Nanite technology is within our capacities, including Gray Goo devices. We could program an prepare this devices for use against the Ti or reprogram the fauna of their ecosystems.

>>5813218

Best for the machine? The machine was fine in the first thread, with no threats to its existence. It could have made a small manufacturing area to maintain itself and perhaps a defensive perimeter. Anything after that is pointless.

>>5813214

That is one of the other problems-- the probe reports that they have no planetary ecosystems.
They are entirely enclosed.

Grey goo may be viable, though. Perhaps moreso than kinetics, as they seem to be entirely based on ships.

>>5813185
Genocide has not been ruled out.
It is a tool that we will use if it is the best course of action.

And it *may* be against a race such as the Ti.

>>5813193
so don't, relocate all life to the inside surface of the sphere and problem solved (didn't any of you watch Star Trek: TNG)

Observations of Existing Factions:
-You [~0-160 LY, 729 systems (10 shared with Tellech)] (took 41 from Tshpath)
-Tshpath (biologicals, expansionistic) at [~70-85 LY North, 0 systems] (41 lost to you) (9 settled) (eliminated by you)
-Tellech (uploads, harmless) at [~0-210 LY Southwest, 10 systems (10 shared with you)]
-Reten (biologicals, harmless, slow tech) at [~130 LY West, 1 system]
-Ti (biologicals, harmless) at [~160 LY West, 7 systems] (2 settled)
-Yewren (biologicals, expansionistic, fast tech) at [~130-180 LY South, 128 systems (11 shared with Unidentified 2)] (1 lost to Ourn) (45 settled)
-Gen (biologicals) at [~180 LY South, 1 system]
-Unidentified 2 at [~170-180 LY South, 11 systems (11 shared with Yewren)] (2 settled)
-Humans (biologicals) at [~180 LY East, 20 systems] (6 settled)
-Ourn (AIs, aggressive, genocidal, fast tech) at [~175-200 LY South, 42 systems] (took 1 from Yewren)
-Gen Fu (biologicals, harmless) at [~200 LY East, 6 systems] (2 settled)
-Kumpre (AIs, slow tech) at [~220 LY Northwest, 7 systems] (1 settled)

>>5813229
Man, the way the CPU reads it, makes me feel like we ARE the BBEG Council.

Cant we at least be more Ecofriendly?

>>5813239

That is what *you* claim.

Do you see the irony?

>>5813200
But everyone's happy now, hush now, and take the soma.

On that note I think we may want to consider encouraging our humans to become Uploads, it would free up resources and dramatically increase logistical efficiency for fleets traveling with live cargo.

Can we have subprocessor consensus for some kind of merging of the System 000 project and the gravitational shenanigans put forth by Subprocessor ∆? A cluster of motile Dyson Swarms armed with enormous death beams and their attendant fleets that haul planets out of their orbits and devour them whilst swatting aside all incoming fire with their weird grav wells seems an excellent demonstration of our power, and an excellent way to defend and maintain both ourselves and our charges.

-Huren (uploads) at [~230 LY West, 6 systems] (1 settled)
-Unidentified 3 at [~250 LY Northeast, 1 system]
-Soou (biologicals, expansionistic) at [~260-300 LY West, 191 systems] (26 settled)
-Mnemo (uploads) at [~280 LY Southeast, 6 systems] (1 settled)
-Twelve (AIs, fast tech) at [~310 LY North, 21 systems] (5 settled)
-Unidentified 5 at [~310 LY East, 5 systems] (1 settled)
-Unidentified 6 at [~320 LY East, 1 system]
-Unidentified 7 at [~350 LY South, 34 systems] (11 settled)


End timeskip.

>>5813263
Query: Current year?

>>5813249
sure, we can store the DNA of everything (if we don't already) and bring the species back if we want at a later date

>>5813254

Not really. Define 'best.' It came from the future with no directives, not even preservation, onto a planet with no threats.

Im not really sure where galactic conquest comes into survival. Does /tg/ like killing everything that moves so much?

>>5813281

I had mentioned this earlier--
We can also copy the personalities of each individual of each race to our database.

>>5813247
HOLY MONKEY BALLS.

We have 729 Star Systems.
Do you guys understand this?
We have 729 Stars colonized, and probably all of them being used to power/enhance our society.

We are fucking ridiculous.

If we wipe out the Souo- we have no more threats!The ti have like -7- settled planets.

Please, NO ONE is a threat to us. NO ONE.

OMFG THIS IS AN EPIC THREAD
I NEED TO SAVE THIS NAOW!

rolled 2, 4, 1 = 7

>>5813293
Let's not get too wrapped up in our own superiority. Extragalactic civilizations may exist.

>>5813285

I *will* define 'best,' since you asked nicely.

Best: Increase the probability that our race will survive to a point as close to 100% as possible.

What we have done has been in furtherance of this.

>>5813272
>Query: Current year?
Correction/addendum: Timeskip duration was fifty-six years. The current year is 430.

rolled 2, 1, 1 = 4

>>5813285
Survival is not ensured until all threats have been eliminated.

>>5813285
I have spoken to this, we seek to combat the threat which all existence holds in common. The universe is degrading. We want to fix it.

We are conquering the universe faster and more efficiently than any other species can put up a fight to slow down. We are, for all intents and purposes, growing so exponentially that we are practically unstoppable by this point.

All under the premise...of expansionism

No, friend CPU, YOU are the BBEG!
And then the subprocessors were minions...

Query: Why are the Ti labeled as 'harmless'?

Query: What criteria determine the label 'harmless'?

Subprocessors, please continue your communications through this interface: >>5813349

>>5813320

What race?!

You're a machine! With no culture, individuals (subprocessors not people), or purpose (except apparently being tyranid cousins).

>>5813262
Fuck it.
Agreement.
Providing that the CPU tells us that it will almost perfectly provide us with perfect protection againts C Weapons, and we can mantain the biological's inhabited planets alive and well with sun lamps, and we wont be fucking up anyone with our space shenanigans?

Sure.let's go crazy.
Let's call it "The Inner Ring", and it shall be the center of our glorious empire.While we are at it, since we are seentially creating an exosystem star system spanning defense network, might as well also establish matrioshka brains on all D.spheres, too.

The Inner Ring will be glorious.

>>5813262
how about something like this
<----- (pardon my bad paint skills)

>>5813372
repost at the other thread, bro.
This one is old.