As far as I'm aware, fashioning a mace with a Palantíri would have been a pretty powerful weapon, at least during the third age. I mean, It's virtually indestructible, and seems to shatter anything that it strikes with enough force. What does /tg/ think?
>>19811519...that would be fucking awesome...
you would draw so much attention to yourself from The Dark Lord. You'd be dead within weeks. Also i could be dislodged and would be more valuable if used as intended. I'd rather have a mithril mace.
If you possess a Palantir, and the only means you have of dispatching your enemies is physically striking them, you're Doing It Wrong.
>What are you doing? You can't use those things! The Eye will fi->Chill, bro. I'm not gonna try to commune with it or shit, I'm just gonna use it to beat orcs with.A++ OP, would join Fellowship with.
I think it's a very superfluous use of a Palantíri, but is still technically right.
>>19811540>>19811555Also, these faggots don't get it and are exactly the kind of pussies who end up quivering in the eternal dark and/or joining forces with evil.If a million orcs come to take the Palantíri from you, that is a million orcs you don't have to spend time looking for before you kill.
>>19811540What if you housed it in some form of mithril chain harness, and attached that to a large, two-handed handle by means of a 10-15' clength of chain.Palantir Meteor hammer?
>ancient relic from a forgotten and revered past. >"Dude, let's tie it to a stick and knock some heads in!
>>19811603PC's in a nutshell.
ITT: Stupid/unconventional uses for magical artifacts.
You still die to arrows.Enjoy having your negligence being the reason the palantir fall into evil hands.
>>19811603/tg/ in a nutshellor possibly /k/...
>>19811581yea but if they come to you there's no telling when or where they'll strike, which means they could hit you at home. now i don't know about you but i can't get 3 drops of blood out of my carpet, much less everything inside a million orcs. plus my trash cans aren't very big, it'd take a while to get rid of all of them. i can do like two a week, four if they count as yard waste
>>19811628I should add that I have one, actually. My group used a flagon of endless water to singlehandedly advance the technology of our setting by about four hundred years.
>>19811628Hand of Vecna as a back scratcher
>>19811628in b4 Truly Immovable Rod
>>19811641who hasn't done that
>>19811628>stupid/unconventionalThis is anything but. This is in the firm camp of "When life hands you lemons, you clone those lemons to make... super lemons."
>>19811641That's not stupid or unconventional, just a really ill-considered setting.Why would your PCs be the first ones to do that? It's not even a high level artifact, it's incredibly easy to make.Basically - you were a faggot, or your DM was.
If I remember the book right, didn't it vaporize the metal railing Saruman was holding to, and shatter the steps of Orthanc when it fell? I mean, the Ents didn't manage to make a scratch to the tower, and this thing managed to actually break a part of it. I'd say it would make a very powerful weapon indeed.
>>19811665>Basically - you were a faggot, or your DM was.Uh oh here comes the Humdrumvee.
>>19811632I'll learn to block those arrows with my unbreakable palantir.>>19811637Good point. Possibly a better idea to just bash their heads pretty hard so they get all confused and then convince them they are garbage men and/or cleaning staff.
>>19811681No, seriously. If you have those flasks of unending water or whatever the fuck in your setting, then technology is revolutionised or you are deliberately ignoring that sort of thing as a fact of the setting. Either the DM went derp and did medieval setting with incredibly useful, common magical artifacts (which is retarded) or that dude got all aspie up in everyone's dungeoncrawl (which is also retarded).
>>19811603Pretty much. Any time I find an ancient artifact I ask myself how well I could use it to bludgeon something to death with.
>>19811519when and who made this things anyway?
>>19811665I think it's more D&D's standard setting being a faggot. There's waterwheels. There's Endless Decanters. Why wouldn't people be combining these?
>>19811747>standard settingWhich one? Dark Sun? Eberron? Ravenloft, FR, Greyhawk?Who the fuck says they aren't combining them? Protip: it is you that is saying it.
two words"cannon" "ball">gif related
>>19811628Chainmail shirt made of magical rings.The single most game-breaking item I have ever created.
>>19811555what? My Dwarf guard just had amazing luck in his treasure-finding roll.
>>19811745Read the silmarillion.
>>19811777In D&D? Rules state you can only get the benefits of two rings, and only on your fingers, IIRC.Anyone can break the game by ignoring its rules.
While using a Palantír as a mace is appealing, I find the idea of becoming really muscular so you are capable of using it like a basketball and basically going all Charles Barkley's Shut Up and Jam Gaiden on Middle Earth much, much more appealing.
>>19811802While that is awesome, I don't think Palantíri bounce much.
>>19811802Doesn't it defeat the point if you use your hands... wouldn't that corrupt you.
>>19811821Through years of intensive training, I would make them. Or coat it in rubber.>>19811825Gloves bro.
>>19811706Uh, oh, looks like we got ourselves a BADASS here...
>>19811821Dude...Helm's Deep Urk-Hai bowling.
>>19811540A mithril mace would be weak though right? Since it is an ultralight material -- it would be like an adamantine battlehammer in DF, might as well bash someone with a pillow
>Find whistle that lets me raise and command undead 1 time every 3 days>Attach it to my spiked chainGave me a bonus to my intimidation.
>>19811825What is cooler than being a basketball star that beats people with a magical ball? A guy who does it wearing steel gauntlets, that's what.
>>19811890But then Mithril is MAGIC so don't have to worry about those laws of physics.
>How are we going to burst through the Black Gates of Mordor?>Well, we have that catapult...bring me the PalantirOn a somewhat tangential note, stick the Palantir at the end of a battering ram. What happens?
>>19811890It's used to make amazing armor, it's magic bitch.
>>19811942The ram breaks.
>Take the one ring>Attach to arrow>Shoot at target>Gets corrupted by it's dark power>Eventually killed by Sauron's forces to reclaim the ring
Actually, wouldn't one of the Silmaril be better as a mace?I mean, they burned Morgoth's hands beyond repair.
>>19811984Wear them on the other hand, like a knuckleduster just in case you meet Morgoth.
>>19811890Why would it be weak? It's a nigh unbreakable material.Sure, you wouldn't get a whole lot of whallop in your swing, but it'd be sharp as fuck, would penetrate any armor by virtue of not breaking and you can flail around with it as much as you like because its so lightweight.
Not really sure if this counts but I'll give it a whirl.My troll fighter had this dread armor crafted in return for taking a castle for this lord and it gave him like +5 to intimidate checks or some shit. So anyway, the party were trapped in this huge-ass cathedral with vaulted ceilings being beset on all sides by hordes and hordes of werewolves. The DM had gone to great lengths to describe the room we were in as a veritable amphitheatre with the best acoustics in the land. Well the bard had this magical horn for summoning something or other, I forget. Ao I figured, hey let's improvise. My character snatched the horn from him, aimed at the ceiling, and bellowed "Tremble before Vaprak the Destroyer!" The amplified volume sent every 'wolf in a 50 metre radius of the building running home with their tails between their legs,
>>19811603in b4 Japanese PC plans and handholding.
>>19812001>Boxing MorgothThe best day ever.
>>19812107You don't speak/shout through musical horns.All that would come out is: "HBMMBE HHMBEM HHMMMMB HMMF HMMBMMBMBM"
>>19811519>Not teabagging it constantly, thus forcing Sauron to look at your nutsack constantly.
>>19812101how would a weapon penetrates armour without momentum?
I request a drawfag to do this, with Gimli wielding it and Legolas watching with dread.
>>19812255>"What the fuck?! Why does he keep doing that? For fuck's sake I don't even want to like corrupt him or anythin--AWW MAN HE'S RUBBING HIS TAINT ON IT NOW!"
>>19812255Congratulations, now all your sperm serve Sauron.
>>19812288If one material is nigh-unbreakable, most of the force of the blow goes back into the other material.Also, you can bash with such a light-weight weapon 5 times for each time you'd have to hit with a normally heavy flail/mace.
>>19812101In DF at least a 1x1meter block of mithril would be about as heavy as a bag of feathers but is impossibly sharp. Its a good metal for swords/spears since their damage is mainly penetrating, but for blunt force weapons you are better off using silver. With a flanged mace, you'd have little momentum to do any damage
>>19812330>"Stupid adventurer! I-It's not like I want to corrupt you or anything!"
>>19812101Wouldn't it be better to... I donno, make something sharp out of it, instead?I mean, flanged mace sure, but it's still not a cutting weapon.
>>19812355Truly an army worthy of Mordor.
>>19812374>Encase lead head in Mithril. >Ge the hardness of Mithril backed with a mighty punch to boot. Problem solved.
>>19812374It looks steel-ish, right?Build a 1x1 meter warhammer made of mithril, and weild it like a toy.Terrify everyone into thinking you are incredibly, unnaturally strong and win fights without fighting.
The one from Minas Tirith is next useless now thanks to Denethor.Might as well make something out of it.
>>19811540What he saidAs soon as you look into it, or even around it, you're hypnotized unless you're a really powerful elf
>>19812255>Use the palantir as an anal bead, like in that one sasha grey video
>>19812480Why didnt they send some back to Aman with departing elves? They could have been talking to the Noldor and the gods and get advice on fighting Sauron.
>>19812484But it's more troll-sized... aw, AWWWWW...
Even if you use the Palantir for the head, what are you making the haft out of? Because there's a good chance that whatever you need the Palantir to kill will also snap the haft like a twig.
>>19812515let sauron listen to those slurping noises. That'll keep a dark lord up at night.
>>19811882>He made a valid point, time to deflect the topic!
>>19812547But if you have that much mithril, why not just make a mithril mace?
>>19812484I'm requesting a link
>>19812631Because things struck by mithril maces don't magically shatter.
>>19812631If you have that much mithril, why not make yourself some bitchin plate armor and not worry about anything ever again?
>>19812631YeahI agree with you, and the plantiri is a bad ideaThe best way is a big sledge hammer with spikes made of mithril as it will be very light, but have enough force and area to smash and impale
>Mace.>Not a Flail Peasants, all of you.
>>19812714>use palantir as a cannonball>fire at Witch King
Why didn't fredo hit the ring with the Palantíri until it was flattened?
>>19812771Not sure they had gunpowderBut that would be sweet to shoot him off his dragon
>>19812827It existed. That's how they blew the grate at Helm's Deep.Or at least it was a similar substance that as an Istari, Gandalf at least may have known about.
>I gotta tell you guys, ever since I fashion this dark orb into a mace it's been fucking awesome.>IT BREAKS EVERYTHING!>But there is the horrible, sanity-eating voice that whisper, smoosh, and scream at me all the same time.>Plus this weird eye keeps following me around.>Totally worth it, though.
>>19812815Because Fredo got killed for betraying the family.
>>19812633redtube/34635best I can do for you, since I can't find it on /rs/
>>19812862Movie version != Book version. And get off mah lawn.
>Get another Palantir>Get length of chain>Palantir Bolas!
>>19812873Reminded me of this.
>>19813050Launch palantír bola with a small ballista
wouldn't work. it would break anything holding it together on impact as well.
>>19813160Use mithril chain to hold it together, sharpen the links
Make the palantir a centerpiece in a bukkake film.I wonder if Sauron can smell through it as well as see.
>>19812508Because nothing - NOTHING - can come back from The West. It's an analog of death. It's a black hole. It's heaven.Or something.
>>19813050What happen if you touch a palantir to another palantir?
>>19813330When balls touch, it becomes an entirely different form of porn.
what the fuck are we waiting for? stat that shit!
what other ancient and rare items would make good improvised weapons?
>>19811632Or you could wear armor.
>>19811637Orcs can't teleport. If a whole army is coming for you you'll hear about it before they get there, so you can go meet them.
>>19811786>and only on your fingersNope. You can put them on any body part you like.
>>19811828>Gloves White silk gloves, to go with your exquisite suit and tophat.
>>19812484There's a video where Sasha Grey sticks a palantír up her ass? I want this.
>>19812815The ring was stronger magic.
>>19813058Every time I see that I feel like that's exactly how it would've gone if my players had been the fellowship of the ring.
>>19814928Mine would probably have conquered Rohan and allied with Mordor, then raped elves until we all got bored and decided to start a new campaign.
>>19814806see>>19812969In truth it's just a large black ball. But i think you can use your imagination.
>>19815012Well that was a let down. I was hoping for some hilariously bad totally-not-LoTR porno.
>>19815065I know there is one, but I don't think Sasha grey is in it.
This thread delivers.
guyshey guyswhat if we take the Palantíri and use it as a cannonball?
>>19815725No good, Saruman's the only one with black powder tech. Besides, cannonballs already wreck enough shit on their own, no need to use a cannonball you need to retreive for fear of it falling into the 'wrong*' hands.*wrong being a subjective term based on the perspective of the would-be firerer.
One this thread is awesome. My sides hurt like Hell.Two, there are many things wrong with what a few of you are saying, through ignorance or omission. One, the seven Palantir were made by MEN, the same men who made Orthanc (that's the tower at Isengard for you illiterate hicks), the same men who Sauron surrendered to rather than fight. Yeah, he went on to corrupt them, but at the height of his power with the One Ring and all he didn't even try to fight them.The West isn't Heaven, or a black hole. When the Vala made the world, it was flat, and the West was just one of the edges where the gods and elves lived. Then, those aforementioned men decided to pay them a visit and sent an army because Sauron said it would make them immortal if they lived there. As punishment, the gods sank Numenor (their island kingdom) and removed the West from Middle-Earth, making it round like a normal planet. Aragorn is descended from the Numenorians who didn't follow Sauron and escaped the island to Gondor and Arnor. Isildor was a pure-blooded Numenorian.
>>19816947This doesn't change their incredible mace suitability though, right?
If it's virtually indestructible, how are you supposed to fashion it into a weapon?
>>19818850you use rope and leather straps to fasten it to a wooden clubin a similar fashion, you can use a microscope to hammer nails, as long as it has a large enough basebut seriously, a palantir is basically a telecommunication deviceso a palantir-on-a-stick would be a mobile telecommunication deviceno?
>>19818939Like a cellphone that slowly corrupts you as you make calls. And to renew your service you need to pledge your allegiance to the Dark Lord (and pay $9.99).
>>19818955A hefty price, considering our Earth money doesn't exist in Middle-Earth.
>>19819040No one ever said evil couldn't be a right money-grubbing fuck when it wants to.
>>19819040I'm sure, if told of the price being merely 9.99 they will know which currency to use.For is it not in our shared nature?Unless if you're a fucking half-breed.
>>19816947they were made from what exactly?
>>19816947>One, the seven Palantir were made by MEN.The Palantíri were made by the Ñoldor in Eldamar, possibly by Fëanor himself in Aman during the Elder Days in the Time of the Trees, and then given by the Elves to the Númenóreans, who kept them as heirlooms until the Fall of Númenor during the Second Age; seven of these stones were rescued and brought to Middle-earth by Elendil and his sons.
>>19816947>Palantir.>Made by Numenorian.>Not made by Noldor, then given to Numenorian.Seriously, go back to your Silmarilion, fags.Anyways, this thread is cool in its way, but palantir don't shatter anything it strikes with enough force. Where did you get that idea ? It's nowhere, not in the books, nor in the movie, god forbid.
>>19819485Read the part when Grima drops it from Orthanc again.
>>19819206From Noldor awesomness. Like the Rings, the Silmarili and all the good magical swords. Years of the Trees and First Age, shit was so cash.
>>19816947>Palantir were made by MEN>Palantir confirmed to be tool of the Patriarchy
ANY item fashioned in the first age would make a fearsome weapon in the third age. prove me wrong.
>>19819629The Spork of Unending Doomonly for the finest of rogues
>>19819629>"BEHOLD!">"THIS BUTTER KNIFE THAT I HOLD IN MY HANDS WAS CRAFTED BY FEANOR HIMSELF!">"QUAKE BEFORE MY MIGHT!"
are Palantír particularly heavy? this is crucial for momentum based weapons.
>>19819746the hobbits handled it seemingly without much straini would say bowling ball weight>read: heavy enough to fuck shit up
>"Dude, what if we take the priceless ancient artifact and make a mace out of it?">"Fucking rad".
>>19811763Standard setting, as in the setting of the core books.
I can see my players doing something like this.
Threw this thread up on suptg. We aren't putting enough of the good stuff up there lately.
>>19812873made me smile.
>>19821557They don't have one.
>>19814813Actually, I'm pretty sure Feanor > Sauron, on craftsmanship at very least.
>>19822984but the palantíri wasn't his best work, unlike Sauron's ring.
>>19823040Gandalf said even Sauron lacked the power to make the Palantíri lie. Ergo, Feanor > Sauron. Case closed.
Hand-sized palantirs are just the babies, if I remember correctly. Wasn't there a palantir the size of a room in Osgiliath at some point?Siege weapon?
>>19822935If it's 4e, then the standard setting actually is covered in the sourcebooks. It's called Points of Light. It's actually pretty badass.
>>19823236The bigger palantirs were walked around to change their viewpoint, at least that's what wiki says. >the bigger palantirsThere's more than one big ass palantir, I guess.
>>19822984Fëanor crafted the Silmarils, which even the Valar (including Melkor/Morgoth, Sauron's master) could not duplicate. So you can bet your ass he was a better craftsman than Sauron could ever have been.
we can use the one from Gondor, no one wants to see the hands of a decrepit man being burned.
Hey, since we're talking LOTR, there is a thing that has been bugging me from some time. If Frodo failed to toss the ring into the fireplace of Bag End, what made Gandalf think he would have been able to toss it into Mount Doom?
>>19824816Because any non-hobbit were 100% sure not to be able to do it.And Frodo was the only hobbit who'd do it.
>>19824816...that's actually a pretty good question.
>>19824887Not to mention the Ring at that point basically was basically initiating Mind Control.
>>19824816The Council of Elrond. At Bag End Frodo was just some hobbit kid who was getting pulled into a big mess. Gandalf had hopes for him, but very likely other alternate plans too.When he stood up and volunteered to take it even after getting stabbed by the witch-king and coming face to face with the perils that would lie ahead of him, Gandalf knew it would be their best shot.
>>19824816>If Frodo failed to toss the ring into the fireplace of Bag End, what made Gandalf think he would have been able to toss it into Mount Doom?At the time, Frodo literally thought it was just some shiny, magical ring. If there was any manipulation involved, Frodo did not know it.Once Frodo understood the Ring and what it was capable of, he was more careful with it.
>>19824816Anyone else, on discovering what the ring was, would want the power. Not even for evil ends, mind you. Frodo literally wouldn't know what to do with it save destroy it.A hobbits life wa s"live in hole, eat food, die."He already had everything he could ever want, so the rig was just some piece of shit threatening his easy life.Give it to anyone else, and they'll want to kill all the orcs/fix society/make the mines bettar/be even more gay for trees/whatever
>>19824816Well, the original plan was for the fellowship as a whole to enter Mordor in secret. my guess is they would have helped him do it.
>my guess is they would have helped him do it.Or thrown him in.
>>19824976My statement is still valid.
>>19825007>still validOf course- bungee jumpers usually need a push too, after all. frodo should have brought his fucking cord.
>>19825022> "Rope!" he muttered. "No rope! And only last night you said to yourself: 'Sam, what about a bit of rope? You'll want it, if you haven't got it.' Well, I'll want it. I can't get it now."