>4. Limit the use of official D&D artwork into the campaign. It’s pretty much the only innately sexist thing about D&D

I agree? The article is basically saying 'don't be a dick, and specifically don't be a racist, misogynist or ableist dick'. I agree with that.

Don't be a dick.

We don't play DnD apparently. We play Misogyny and Racism: The Hack and Slash

God damn I hate this shit, why do people always have to shit all over someone else's fun?

Basically make sure you are playing with a group you are comfortable in, that goes for anyone.

Most game worlds are pretty egalitarian so the setting itself shouldn't ever be a problem.... unless you play FATAL.

A better topic would be...
>How to ensure your next pen-paper RP game is a good one:
Don't be a dick.

>>17573855
>official D&D art
>innately sexist

>Forcing us men to look upon the horror that is Mialee
>Giving women the fantastic eye-candy that is Tordek

Either way, shame for linking a feminist blog.

>>17573842
>>17573855

>Don't be a Dick, the article.

A lot of feminism can be summed up as "Don't be a dick".

Well, the parts I agree with anyway.

>>17573860

Today I awoke in a daze. My life felt meaningless. I had been with my gaming group for over 10 years, and I thought, this is it- its all over. I was contemplating tendering my resignation as the GM, for I could not possibly think of another theme or scenario that would be fresh for my players.

Now...

Nothing especially radical there. It boiled down to being in a group that fit's your desired style of play. Which is something everyone should do anyway.
Want to play feminist D&D? Play with feminists

>Avoid misogynist, heterosexist, ableist, and racist comments to the people in your group.

WTF is ableist? Does this mean we can't keep referring to one of our players by his Native American name "Rolls Threes?"

>>17573893

>A lot of feminism can be summed up as "Don't be a dick".

A lot of feminism can be summed up as "Don't have a dick".

>>17573904
Fuck, now all I can think about is getting a Native American name. Even if it's negative I want one.

>>17573908
I think if we all just stop and take a breath, step back a bit, and think this through, we can all agree that dicks are inherently violent.

>>17573896
>Want to play feminist D&D? Play with feminists
I don't see either of these things being healthy for a male or a sane female under any circumstances.

I actually agree with most of these, if you are playing with women.

Don't make rape jokes for sure. I mean that's just civility.

>>17573910
Change your name to Little Crow, that dude was a badass.

>>17573910

"Spends Stolen Wealth At Casino"

There. Go, and sin some more.

>>17573915
A fair number of nerds have no idea what civility means though.

I mean the article itself contains a nigh archetypal That DM moment.

>>17573915

The women I play with *are* the ones who make the rape jokes.

>>17573896
>Want to play feminist D&D? Don't play with total assholes.

FTFY

>>17573915

Women secretly enjoy rape jokes.

Ive never had a girlfriend who didnt have a rape joke fetish.

>>17573926
>Want to play feminist D&D? Thanks for the warning, I'll find another group.

FTFY

>>17573918
>>17573910

I NEED TO EARN IT

>>17573892
>Forcing us men to look upon the horror that is Mialee
>Giving women the fantastic eye-candy that is Tordek
Well, technically, that's still sexist. It's discrimination against heterosexual males, I tell you. Not everybody who plays wants to develop a fetish for gruff dwarven men.

>When I was 13, and the only girl in my D&D group at summer camp, one character "raped" my character during a campaign. When I protested, the DM's reply was "he's evil, you are the only chick, and we've been in this dungeon for 6 weeks. You totally want it." I abandoned the group immediately. I didn't play again until I was in my 30s.

>>17573904

Kudos to your group for that name.

"Rolls Threes" is quite possibly one of the best and relevant nicknames I've ever heard.

Would a game trying not to be sexist need to avoid the type of character designs mentioned in the article entirely, or just make them thoroughly in the minority?

I feel like the majority of characters should be reasonably proportioned and clothed. But it wouldn't feel right to have a barbarian class and not have a picture of a ludicrously buff shirtless guy somewhere in there. Is the stereotypical wasp-waisted, large-breasted, scantily clad woman another instance of something you want one or two of to comply to tropes, or is it so offensive that including any is a detriment?

>>17573926
/thread

>>17573931
You are funny.

>>17573914
Works fine. Mostly because an average feminist in the real world is not the man hating monster that some people seem to think.

>>17573904
Eh, my party created a verb after my character... The definition is to miss by a narrow margin with great regularity.

To Makcrag a roll, or "Ha, you Makcrag'd it!"

It has been 3 years and it is used with great regularity

>>17573946
Again, solid advice for those players would be "don't be a dick."

>feminist magazine
>bitch magazine

>black rights magazine
>nigger magazine

>>17573946

oh shit.

i didnt want to read the article at first because tl;dr

but now youre forcing me to

>>17573910
I always wanted to make a Native American Changeling in WoD with a fairly normal name ('Sue Burnette'), who was one of the skyfolk Beast types nicknamed 'Raven'. The idea was he wore black jeans, a black corduroy long-sleeve shirt, a jacket, a black hat, and had a guitar slung over his shoulder. His life goal would be to find his father, and kick his fucking ass for naming him 'Sue'.

>>17573935
>Not everybody who plays wants to develop a fetish for gruff dwarven men.

But when they do, this board will be waiting for them. A new home for the new men.

>ableist

I can only assume that the existence of this newest made-up buzzword implies that criticizing somebody based on their lack of ability is now considered to be just as bad as racism.

That idea can go fuck itself with a badger.

>>17573946
>when I was 13
>traumatized till age 30

These people need to stop being fucking retarded. A THIRTEEN YEAR OLD WAS A STUPID SHITHEAD, BIG FUCKING SUPRISE

>>17573965
Welcome to modern feminism. Crazies for it, crazies against it, everyone in between keeping their heads down to avoid getting lumped in with either group.

Website is either embracing this or mocking it.

>>17573962
How many decades in the past do you live again?

Want to play a game with guys? Want to treat girls well in the group? Make no special changes to the group's dynamic.

The assertion that women need to be catered to is inherently sexist. If you guys make rape jokes when there is no girl, then not making those jokes because there is one now makes you sexist.

Also, don't be a nasty fuck and stop injecting your fetishes into the campaign.

>Feminist DnD Master Class for you all.

>>17573946

Had a legit issue. "You totally want it" ended that campaign. God awful DM.

>>17573965

>implying both aren't completely irrelevant since 1965

The desperate attempts of feminists' and the NAACP's attempts to stay relevant stink to high heaven.

Its called bitchmagazine.

You guys all got dun trolled.

>>17573962
I am sure the average national socialist was not the Jew hating monster that some people seem to think. Their complicity however enables the man haters that form the core of the movement.

>>17573979
negative one?

>3. Avoid the following terminology: “gay” to mean an insult and “raped” as in “I totally raped that goblin hideout.” If there are other words you’re concerned about coming up (swear words, oppressive language), make that part of the initial meeting to get group agreement on usage.

What the fuck.

How is "raped" sexist?

WHY CANT MEN BE RAPED TOO HUH?????

YOU THINK THERE ARENT GYM CURLBRO FAGGOTS OUT THERE WAITING TO STICK THEIR DICK UP MY TIGHT RUMP IN THE SHADY ALLEYWAYS?

Fucking feminists are always so fucking hypocritical.

>>17573986
Like any group of people, it's the extremists who create the stigma.

All of this seems like pretty basic stuff. That said, Bitch magazine is great so it's nice to see them give my hobby some attention.

>this thread
it's like i'm on /co/
i expect better from you guys

>>17573974
It's specifically for when you are a dick to people who are disabled.

>>17573974
I think it means not taking the piss out of disabled people, or thinking less of them as people. As in "you don't have legs, you're a subhuman," not "you don't have legs, so working at the shin kicking factory is right out."

>>17573842
>Feminist Magic
>How to play Magic the Gathering in a feminist manner

What the fuck am I reading?

>>17574005
/co/ talks about feminists claiming to play D&D?

>>17574017
DC reboot, starfire, internet shitstorm, especially on /co/. Ask no more.

>>17574010
Don't tap female cards unless they expressly say yes. Those cards can take back that yes at any time, and it is your duty to stop immediately and leave the table.

Feminism is a buzzword. Also, OP is a fag.

>>17573995
I always like playing Half-Orcs who's background is one parent (the Orc) raped the other. I don't specify (at first) which that was, and I don't make a deal about it at all. But if someone flips shit about it, then I drop the bombshell that no, the father was a human blacksmith who lived happily in a village before a marauding Orc warband brought his mother, a knuckle-dragging she-orc barbarian. The character's father died of a crushed pelvis and collapsed rib-cage.

If they laugh, then I can scold them with a straight face and say "It's not fucking funny! It's dead-serious because it's fucking rape."

>>17574017
no, they engage in willfully ignorant, misogynist circle jerks.

>-4 Strength

>>17573999
Too bad these elusive "reasonable people" don't publicly disown the nutters, and instead let them sling shit everywhere for their advantage.

Passively looking on while getting benefit from the shitstorm and then going "but.. but not WE" when called out on the bullshit totally is what reasonable people do.

>>17573995
Then it's an issue of not being callous towards rape victims, not just women. There.

>>17574010

There's no real story telling. If you ignore the card art, there's nothing sexist about their effects.

At that point, it's just laying down pieces of paper with text written on them consisting of "place three slips of paper," "rotate first paper," "move paper with number 3 on them"

>>17574029
>+4 Ass

>>17574033
They do but because it isn't scandalous the news won't report on it and so no one hears about it.

>>17573904
I don't care about this theead but your post is excellent and I like it.

HYUK

>>17574033
It happens. But they tend to get banded together with the opposing camp of whatever side they're objecting to. Then the loudest people continue making all the noise and making out like there's some massive conflict where no prisoners can be taken and the only acceptable outcome is the total annihilation of the other side.

>>17574035

Except feminists like to take rape as 'their crime' and act all special and high-and-mighty about it and think it only happens to them, like blacks and racism.

lol, we had a sister of battle join our black crusade group recently. When something went wrong we blamed it on her. When she protested we informed that she is a woman, and as a result, if something goes wrong it is automatically her fault.

This author would shit in my gaming groups, we have racist, misogynist, "ableist", rape, and any other anti-pc joke you can imagine. Our GM is an obamaton too, and he laughs his ass off. Bitch can suck it.

>>17573999
I noticed it when I argued about something like protection of endagnered species with a friend. I automatically started with "I'm no eco-nut, but..." and I realized I can't even say I care for the biosphere without being taken for a bearded, sweater-wearing madman who wants to blow up all oil tankers and steal your electricity from the plug.

>>17574057
Yeah, well fuck them.

But not really, because that would be rape.

>>17574027

um

unless it was an alchemist orc who had a fantasy version of viagra,

theres no way that the blacksmith could keep his penis erect under that much pain

do you have any idea how painful a crushed ribcage / pelvis is?

furthermore, i dont think the natural reaction of a human civilian in confrontation with a massive monstrous she-humanoid would be: "hot damn, i cant control my erection!"

no. bad backdrop. bad.

>>17574058
>sister of battle join our black crusade group recently
>sob
>black crusade

>>17573995

Given that this is 4chan, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. It's like this place turned into /r9k/ all of a sudden

>>17574055
>>feminist are trying to destroy capitalism

DAMN I KNOW IT!!! AND YOU CALLED ME CRAZY, WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!!!

>>17574066
>post sublty implying that women-on-male rape doesn't work because men can't get erections without their explicit consent
Yeah, no.

As for physical damage, who says he was crushed BEFORE he ejaculated?

>>17574073
fallen sister obviously. She put the final bolt into the back of the inquisitor that had drug her around some warp forsaken shit hole for 30 years.

>>17574058
I think I'd prefer to take my chances with the feminists

>>17574066

Get it hard. Wrap a tourniquet around it.

Have at it.

Men can be raped, and they don't need to be perfectly comfortable for it to happen. Deal with it.

>>17574048
>>17574056
Silent acceptance is still acceptance.

If they don't want to be labeled as man-hating crazies, then they should speak up loud enough to be heard and not just when it's convenient to shift the blame on vague "extremists".

>>17574085
Plus you can shove things up the butt, right?
Unless we're eliminating all anal from "rape" for both men and women.

>>17574038
fgdhgjhl m,h mnjkm mn,klm,h mn,

Don't mind me, just wiping the tea off the keyboard.

Am I the only person in these games that sees my character as a playing piece and not a mold for everything I want in a player?

"Adequate time to explain backstory"

No. I don't give a shit about his/her backstory. You're going to die by the third encounter so spending a week on backstory and dying two hours in is going to make you feel robbed.

You get 4-5 sentences of backstory.

"I am John Doe. I was born in the house my father built. It was ransacked by bandits and I escaped. From there, I became a thug and eventually a mercenary. Now, here I am with my spellbook and magical gear because fuck you my backstory has nothing to do with how my character works."

>>17574078

oh fuck oh fuck its a bunch of marauding orcs

theres blood and guts and brains everywhere

oh shit i just got an erection

>>17574091
But it takes a lot of time and effort to be as loud and persistent as the nutjobs.

If you stick with this rule, then no one can ever accomplish anything because they have to spend all their time being as loud as the loudest nutjob around.

Maybe you should just not worry about labels so much? If you want to know what a specific person thinks, ask them, instead of asking for a label that you know is bullshit because of polarization.

>>17574058
No foul if everyone's alright wit it. Though I figure that anyone whose entire existence is getting told they're shit and at fault, even as a joke, is going to stop enjoying the game.

>>17574066
It's a troll backdrop, purely to troll the fuck out of anyone who immediately bitches about a fucking half-orc having a cliche, and typical parentage.

Fem-nazis tend to shut up immediately when it suddenly switches and now the 'rapist' is a fucking 300lbs muscle-bound orc woman. And no, guys can't control their erections, even when they really don't want what it.

>>17574097
Some states still don't recognise anal rape as rape.

>>17573968
nice...

>>17574085
Well, a lot of men can be raped in jail, and i dont think nobody cares if their dicks get hard or not.

>>17574103
0/10

>>17574091
Not to mention they act as shields for these man hating crazies and repeat their misleading or made up statistics.

>how to have a stiff awkward roleplaying session where everyone is constantly thinking about how to phrase every word they utter in fear of being cast out of the group

>>17573953
No reasonable questions allowed, this is a troll thread.

>>17574091
Then they get labelled as limp wristed cuckolds. It is impossible to have a civil conversation about the issue in any sort of public arena.

>The last time I played D&D I created a Swashbuckler-class, bisexual, Irish pirate called Megan O’Malley

>>17574081
Except the "man-hating crazies" label came from the people who hate the very core of feminism because it is seen as a threat. Yet retards like you think it's somehow the responsibility of the feminists to assuage the baseless fears of the dimwits who eat up that right-wing fundie bullshit.

>I created a Swashbuckler-class, bisexual, Irish pirate called Megan O’Malley. But because I started part-way through the campaign, there wasn’t time given for me to build her back story into the plot. I definitely felt like it hampered my ability to get across how kick-ass she was

Hey you silly boys did I tell you that my character is BISEXUAL?!
Hey stop adventuring and having fun!
But don't you dare flirt with me you silly boys!
Hey!
HEY!
Pay attention to ME!

>>17574081
>fallen sister
>soitbegins.jpg

>>17574116
Its true, jail is like one of the 3rd world rape camps we always hear about, but since they are men no one cares.

>>17574116
I hope you aren't still implying that men can choose not to get an erection.

>>17574102
Depends what you play games for. Some people are there for the mechanics, others are there for the roleplaying.

I personally think the former is better served in vidya (it's where I get my "kill all orcs" kicks), but that's just me.

>>17574085

I know I don't "just nut". Hell, I wish I could, instead it takes 45 minutes to an hour of jerking and I know what I like.

Fucking a girl I like still takes about an hour. So if I have my dick being handled by some monster that likely smells of piss/ass, I doubt I'm nutting.

Not sure why an Orc woman would want to fuck me anyway. I'd assume an Orc male would be much more to their liking.

did i hear rape?

>>17574138
In America, anyway.

>>17574103
And now you have to accept that this is what's actually happened while some monster is mounting you.

You're better off dead rather than having to live with that knowledge.

>>17574103

Actually, yes. That's how it happens.

Did you know that the last thing a man experiences as he's dying is a really fucking hard erection?

>>17574066
So what you mean to tell me is that in your entire life you've never gotten an erection you didn't want? You never got one sitting in class. You never got one waking up. you never got one eating food. You've never EVER in the history of your life had an unwanted erection? What are you, six?

>>17574033
Just like "Christians" huh

>>17574132
Yes, people who want to marginalize and demonize me for my sex and are quite willing to enlist the government to help them are a threat. Man hating crazies and their fluffy allies are very much a threat.

>>17574142
>Hell, I wish I could, instead it takes 45 minutes to an hour of jerking
You're very unusual.

But, of course, you don't need to ejaculate to be raped.

>>17574122
I don't think I've ever had a problem making a sentence without slurs. Especially not during RPGs.
I've played a reasonably sexist character in a 1920s Cthulu game, but that was all IC stuff.
Maybe you should expand your vocabulary a little.

>>17574154
I'm pretty sure the last thing he experiences is him dying actually.

>avoid using gay and raped
What is the meaning of this faggotry?

>>17574142
"You'z gots a purty mouff... squeel like a pig fer me!"

>>17574160
poor little white guy
>>BUT IM NOT WHITE, IM A BIG MAK AHK

>>17574155
>What are you, six?

More likely a troll or a woman who tittered her way through sex ed.

>>17574160
This. It swings both ways of course, but you've essentially got two sides trying to make things as shit as possible for the opposite gender because they're scared, angry or whatever. Which feeds the cycle, since the crazies on each side goad their opposites on.

>>17574103

>tie a dude up
>prostate stimulation with a broom handle
>silk string around the junk, tight

It's like you really don't know [spoilerswouldbeniceontg]dick[/spoilerswouldbeniceontg]

>>17574085
>>17574149

First of all, speaking with some degree of first aid knowledge, a tourniquet restricts bloodflow. You tie it around shorn off limbs to stop yourself from bleeding to death. Tying a tourniquet around a male member would do nothing but drain it off blood and make it turn blue, you will not force an erection by that procedure.

Second, forcing an erection by external stimulus and forcing an ejaculation are two entirely different things. For one, you cannot force the latter unless the would-be-ejaculator is to some extent aroused.

tl;dr your character's mother could not have gotten pregnant, and even if she may have successfully raped the blacksmith, theres not a likely scenario in which he could have ejaculated.

>>17574160
>Yes, people who want to marginalize and demonize me for my sex and are quite willing to enlist the government to help them
I've always wondered what kind of experiences in life it takes for people to become this detached from reality.

I bet you think life would be so much better for you if it weren't for those FUCKING FEMINIST WHORES.

>>17573893
>Don't be a dick

HEY! I have a dick!
I find it very sexist and ableist of you to use the word DICK in a negative context.

>>17574198
Fine: stop being a cunt.

>>17574160
Wait, are you talking about misogynists? Because it sounds like you are

>>17574194
Very well. Father was aroused by the entire experience and felt both self loathing and disgust before he died of a crushed pelvis.

>>17573878
Who is shitting on anyone's fun? This is a suggestion for a game that you can play any way you like. No one is forcing anyone to play that way, they are just suggesting ways to make sure it is comfortable for feminist players. As far as feminist articles go this is one of the least extreme I have come across.

>>17574109
>Some states

found your problem there.

>>17574169

You need to ejaculate to impregnate an Orc.

As was the intention of his backstory.

I can't control a boner, but actually cumming is an entirely different thing. Maybe I'm just into something really fucked up I haven't discovered yet, but I still think getting mounted by some blood/sweat/shitstained marauding orc isn't going to get my jimmies ready to depart the submarine anytime soon.

>>17574132

This. Writing feminists off as "crazies" that hate men is just a dismissive way to shove them out of sight. There's a long history of treating women who stand up for themselves as mentally ill; the word "hysteria" comes to mind.

>>17574207

>>17574197
>someone states facts
>respond with ad hominem
Stay classy feminist scum.

>>17574194
>Tying a tourniquet around a male member would do nothing but drain it off blood and make it turn blue, you will not force an erection by that procedure.

>tourniquets stop bloodflow
>apply it after getting it hard like the post you're responding to says
>stop bloodflow

You might have a point about forced ejaculation (or not, I'm sure forced "milking" can still happen in the same way that a woman being raped is fully capable of having a real orgasm during it) but how the fuck is blood going to flow back out of a blood-filled penis after a tourniquet's applied, considering the whole point of the tourniquet is to restrict the bloodflow?

>>17574219

Except everybody, the women included, knew that hysteria wasn't a thing, but went with it, anyway, because you got lots of 'rehabiliation' from it.

>>17574194
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Erection is enhanced by moderation pressure around the base of the penis, and yes, it's because of changing blood flow. You're cutting off the near-surface veins that take blood OUT of the penis.

Haven't you ever heard of cock rings?

>>17574197

Yeah. I don't understand it either.

>>17574236

You can milk a cock really easily. Play with the prostate. He doesn't need to be in on it, or even cooperate.

He'll squirt all his cream, but isn't gonna feel like he just had an orgasm. Because, you know, it was kinda forced on him, so he couldn't enjoy it.

This is just like how you can get a woman really wet while you rape her.

>>17574194
>For one, you cannot force the latter unless the would-be-ejaculator is to some extent aroused.
FUCK YOU WHORE

If a woman has an orgasm it wasn't rape, amirite?

Is this an "I'm-never-wrong" General?
>derailingfordummies.com

>>17574237

...What? I'm sure you'd be excited about being locked up, because of all the rehabilitation.

>>17574219
The thing is that there are people like that, who take feminism to an ludicrous extreme. They might not be as common as some people believe, but they do exist. They provide a decent basis for a lot of the fear mongering that gets done. The same happens with the nutters on the other side of the debate too, of course. You've got a few crazy, vocal people making far many more feel threatened and afraid.

No gay, liberal, tolerant or openminded bullshit at my table, that's for sure. I mean, how you going to play oWoD other way?

>>17574229
>facts
Stay delusional, you poor oppressed male.

>>17574065

They say that it happens to men too, but it's evident they don't think so by the way they talk about it.

>>17574262

Hysteria was cured by using really huge dildos and clit massages on the women.

Chronic suffering from this dangerous condition were very common.

>>17574219
Sure, there's a reason that a women's rights movement happened and I'm glad it did.

But now that the major reforms have occurred, the movement has become extremist and is dominated by sexists who hate men.

>>17574262
Rehabilitation for Hysteria was treated by stimulating orgasms. Seriously.

>>17574209

I'm going to keep eating a steak while my date eats her vegan salad.

I'll keep playing DnD how I want despite how the new girl feels. First time she says "excuse you, please be less of a mysogonist", I'm going to say "While I entirely agree with you and your right to believe what you do, my character is half dragon and launches mind bullets at a Demigod. He doesn't give a shit if you're bleeding from your groin unless it was caused by a blade."

>>17574236
trust me, from experience...

cutting off blood flow to an erection, tends keep it hard. It's not good for it, either.

>>17574262

The traditional treatment for hysteria was a dildo. Then after we discovered electricity, shortly after inventing the electric toaster we invented the electric vibrator.

>>17574055
Pretty much almost every single one of those is a perfectly reasonable statement.

>>17574236

Okay. Consider this, it isnt the blood that makes it hard.

Blood merely supplies oxygen which makes it hard.

There are two types of flow, systolic and diastolic, or rather, toward and away from the heart. Once blood is pumped into the member, it carries oxygen to it, after the oxygen has been assimilated to contract the muscles which keep it firm and rigid, the deoxygenated blood needs to be pumped back into the heart to sort of "recharge" its oxygen content if you will.

Even though the member would be filled with blood, the blood will be depleted of oxygen very quickly, and the member will still turn blue and soft, albeit perhaps more squishy and bulbous.

>“A common response whenever a heterosexual female encounters an instance of rape (or perceived rape, or implied, or whatever), is, "Eww, man, gross." (See also: the phrase "no rape".) This is practically a socially conditioned response used by bitches to assert their own (feminist) sexuality. It is also very silly.”

You're a BIGOT if anything makes you nauseated. Why do you have to be such a BIGOT, /tg/?!

>>17574194
>forcing an erection by external stimulus and forcing an ejaculation are two entirely different things. For one, you cannot force the latter unless the would-be-ejaculator is to some extent aroused.
For as progressive as you claim to be, your understanding of male physiology is very lacking.

>>17574219

You know how big the fetish is for men to be "cured" by nurses and doctors that way?

I'd love to have been diagnosed with hysteria if I knew the cure already.

At that time, the husband was paying for his wife to be stimulated by the doctor. Why would the woman object?

>>17574279
Not to mention so many people who would have to get real jobs if they ever admitted that we are more or less equal and females don't need institutionalized protection.

ITT: /tg/ discusses rape and hysteria.

Pic related.

>>17574312
Maybe she didn't want a stranger sticking foreign objects up her?

>>17574291
"contract the muscles which keep it firm and rigid"
The only muscles you can possibly be referring to are the ones that control blood flow.

He's wrong, but I don't think you're any better off.

>>17574279
>I git mah opinyons from da AM radio
I once thought like you did. Then I opened my fucking eyes.

>>17574308

Fine, I did not consider sticking a broomstick up the guys bum, but if you are implying that you can force an ejaculation through intercourse in the traditional sense then you are way off.

>>17574289

>>17574328
>then I opened my fucking eyes
What.

Look, we're not even arguing about how I feel about womens' rights. I'm all for gender equality. But just what the fuck are you on about here?

The number of feminist sympathizers on this board sickens me.

>>17574133
>I created a Swashbuckler-class, bisexual, Irish pirate called Megan O’Malley. But because I started part-way through the campaign, there wasn’t time given for me to build her back story into the plot. I definitely felt like it hampered my ability to get across how kick-ass she was

>Swashbuckler

Sweetheart, your back story had nothing to do with the lack of how kick-ass she was. Actions speak louder than words, and you picked a SHITTY, SHITTY class.

>>17574338
>if you are implying that you can force an ejaculation through intercourse in the traditional sense then you are way off.
Please tell me you're trolling. Please.

>>17574324

She did. They all did.
That's why all of them were 'chronic sufferers.' This is real, by the way.

It happened, and it wasn't that long ago, either.

>>17574291
It is not oxygen that makes it hard. It's not like there's muscle tissue that requires oxygen to work.

What makes it hard is the spongey material that fills up with the blood itself. I understand you probably don't have male genitalia, so probably wouldn't understand how all this works, but please do some anatomical research. Constricting blood to ensure a longer erection is very common. They even sell shit to do this with, and they're quite popular. Look up "Cock-Ring".

>>17574338

What part about "blacksmith getting raped by a half-Orc she-barbarian" is traditional about this to you?

Yeah, that's great guys.

Any more pictures of the girl in OP?

>>17574338
Blindfold him. There, now he can't get sick from looking at you. And most of his sensation goes to what's happening at his groin, whether he likes it or not.

>>17574361
>pedobaiting
Out.

>>17574325

There are muscles at the base of your penis connected to your coccyx.

These support your member and keep it upright.

This is the last post im answering.

>ITT people who didn't actually read the article and just looked at the name
Seriously, it could have just as easily been "How to have a good campaign.

>>17574338

You can't force a woman to cum during rape, either. If she experiences orgasm, which many will do, that's not gonna 'feel' like an actual one to her, since she was - you know - raped.

It's the exact same thing for men, and both sexes are best raped while you stimulate their asses, too, because it leads to much more lubricant for the woman, and a harder cock for the man.

It's almost as if nature designed us to have these backdoors, so the species could survive even if we had to conquer and breed with unwilling tribes.

>>17574353
Oh, I'll give you that the "chronic suffers" most likely did. I'm just saying that there were probably people who weren't quite alright with the methods utilised in curing the condition.

>>17574376
Those ligaments have nothing to do with erection itself.

>>17574248

Cock rings aren't magic hardness keepers.

It stays hard because he's aroused. Don't be a fucking idiot.

>I have worn more than a couple.

>>17573842

hahaha
that made me laugh
i'm not even trolling...
so now i'm wondering if i'm a bad person

>>17574377
See the earlier "don't be a dick" posts. This thread has now moved onto a broader discussion of whether an article with such a name is necessary.

>>17574382
>You can choose whether orgasm releases a flood of endorphins
Yeah, no. You're right that it doesn't mean they really "enjoy" it, but that hardly matters here.

>>17574390
But arousal is not entirely voluntary. You cunt.

>>17574390
I have too. And while they don't ensure you'll stay hard (as it's dangerous to fully constrict circulation), their intended purpose (and what they do) does help to ensure a longer lasting erection.

>>17574384

There was no condition, and everybody knew this. ALL the women who went in for 'hysteria' were well aware they were gonna be sexually experimented upon, and they were the ones who paid money for the 'treatment.'

Do you understand what we're saying?

No one was forced. It was a trendy method to spice up your sexlife at the time.

>>17574411
Give him a break, he's obviously flaccid and thinks everyone has ED.

>>17573893

I hope you don't believe this?

Why we are talking about erections and cock-rings here?
wtf is wrong with you, guys? really

>>17574359

What part of "half-orc barbarian" is unclear to you?

Most males of our own species, with modern medicine and education, don't know about the prostrate method. How the hell is an Orc going to know the inner workings of a human male's asshole?

"Hurp durp, if I put wood here, white stuff comes out." That's one absurdly smart Orc.

>>17574424
Question Mark?

>>17574427
ahh, came here post mod I see.

>>17574419
>No one was forced.
Not that guy, but you understand that this absolute claim can't possibly be accurate?

At least a few women were forced into this. Maybe by husbands who thought they were frigid, or just hated them and knew they would be ashamed by it, even IF most women just did all of this voluntarily as a way to get off.

>>17574404

You can't choose, but when it happens, your mind makes connections. So you're full of juice that makes you feel good, but it came about from a bad experience, and it wasn't something you asked.

Your mind will quickly decide that it was a BAD THING that happened to you, and tells you to avoid it, no matter how badly you might want it.

That's why rape victims sometimes are so fucked up in the head. Pleasure = a bad thing.

>>17574382
This is bullshit, women often do cum during rape and sexual assult. why do you think it's so fucking horrifying for them? why do you think they end up so traumatized? Being so powerless you're not even in control of your bodies most basic reactions is a very horrible feeling. It's also something that nearly no one expects to happen, because it's never talked about, no one wants to admit they where affected in that way by these attackers to anyone but the most trusted peers and therapists

>>17574452
I guess we actually agree then.

>>17574436

Sexual manuals have been written since the dawn of writing, and they all talk about prostate stimulation in some form or another. Don't be an idiot.

>>17574436
Are you implying that orc barbarians aren't the masters of rape, regardless of gender?

>>17574411
Especially when blind-folded.

If the entirety of your sensory input becomes limited to what you feel with no visual perception, what the person looks like no longer becomes an obstacle to your arousal.

That said, even if you don't like what the person looks like, your body will still react against your wishes and may be aroused (i.e. why-boner.jpg).

>How to run a feminist D&D Campaign
HOW ABOUT YOU JUST KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE AND RUN A GOOD FUCKING CAMPAIGN

YOU ARE PUTTING THE CART AROUND SIX MILES BEFORE THE HORSE WHEN YOU SAY "I AM GOING TO RUN A FEMINIST CAMPAIGN" INSTEAD OF "WE ARE GOING TO EXPLORE EXPLORE RACIAL STRATIFICATION WHILE DRIVING AIRSHIPS INTO THINGS IN EBERRON" OR "WE ARE PLAYING IN A HOMEBREW SWORDS N SORCERY FANTASY WORLD WITH LOTS OF CRAZY FUN HIGH ADVENTURE AND DEMONKILLING" OR "MY CAMPAIGN IS BASICALLY RIPPING OFF THE PROTOMEN, LES MISERABLES, AND DEUS EX ALL AT THE SAME TIME"

IF YOUR ONLY CONCERN IS "TODAY, I AM GOING TO RUN A CAMPAIGN WHERE THERE IS LESS RAPE THAN USUAL" THEN YOU PROBABLY NEED TO RE-ASSES YOUR ABILITY AS A DM

FUCK 10/10 I'M MAD

>>17574291
Wow, you are fucking retarded or a terrible bullshitter.

> to contract the muscles which keep it firm and rigid
THERE ARE NO MUSCLES IN THE PENIS YOU DUMB FUCK.

Well, it's better than another 5e thread...

>>17574343
>But just what the fuck are you on about here?
What I'm on about is the fallacious idea that feminists already "won" and that the only reason they still exist is to push this fearsome man-hating agenda - the one that, oddly enough, seems to only ever be taken seriously by right-wing hatemongers.

Do you actually know women? As in, talk to them? Listen to what they have to say about things? The visible, concrete institutions of sexism might have been torn down for the most part but a lot of the CULTURE of sexism still exists. Part of that culture is the garbage you can see in this very thread.

You say you're for gender equality, but it seems to me like you're only for the easy stuff, the stuff that is already over and done with.

"create a safe space for people who like RPGs but might be otherwise marginalized."
Whole idea to go safe is beyond me. Just play with your friends. Don't write half baked shitty guides to create a "safe" way to play game of social interaction and elven maidens.

>>17574491
Joke's on you, this IS a 5e thread!

>>17574465

Once again, that is one absurdly smart Orc.

Orc.

Orc.

Orc.

Not even a human.

An Orc.

An Orc knowing how the male sexual reproductive system works.

An Orc.

When the common man only knows the "pump hole till boom boom goo" method.

An Orc Marauder knows the truth.

ITT: women prove they have absolutely no idea how their own bodies work, let alone those of men, because they simply aren't required to learn either.

>>17574324

This. I have a hard time understanding how this isn't rape. Sure sounds fun to me. :/

>>17574490
next you're going to tell me there isn't a penis bone.

>>17574490

see

>>17574376

I liked this article. I am the only girl in my play group and I am usually expected to be the "group mom" and bring cookies etc. They also use the -4 str rule meaning I have to play as a mage or play as a man....which I would find weird.

>>17574505
Racist.

>>17574471
Rampaging tribes of Barbarians do get an automatic specialty in 'Rape' and 'Pillage'.

>>17574505
I tink ye gots yer orcs mess'd up wit yer orks.

>>17574502

Why is everyone misspelling "sexiest"?

>>17574505
not him, but this stuff could be like Secret Knowledge Of Hard Fuck passed by orcs shamans. Orc to Orc. Stuff like - kill women after rape to prevent bastards or kick out teeth before trying to go for mouth

>>17574517
Not in humans, but in other mammals.
Baculum-thread go!

>>17574531
oh sure, Vader says "NO" but I can tell from all that white stuff on the walls he means "YES"

>>17574499

There will never be gender equality.

Average man can't go to a bar full of women and get sex from anyone he wants.

Average woman can get sex anytime she wants from typically anyone she's in contact with.

That's the deep-seeded issue. As soon as men can get sex anytime he likes from random friends/women, there will be less issues.

>>17574518
Those muscles at the base keep it upright, but aren't the cause for the erection other than by constricting the blood-flow. Constrict blood-flow, and those muscles don't matter.

>>17574499
Just because I'm right-winged sexist who is ideologically opposed to feminism and doesn't want to take it seriously doesn't mean I'm a hatemonger. Please refrain from using such insulting language. Thank you.

>>17574541
Whenever I see baculum I can't help but think Bakula.

OKAY ENOUGH OF THIS

ONLY MEMBERS OF THE SAME SPECIES CAN PRODUCE OFFSPRING THAT ARE CAPABLE OF REPRODUCTION

HUMANS BELONG TO THE SPECIES OF HOMO SAPIEN

ORCS ARE FUCKALL

FUCK ALL OF YOU TWATS

THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET A HALF ORC IS THROUGH GENETIC ENGINEERING OR THE FANTASY VERSION WHICH IS VOODOO WITCHCRAFT

>>17574520
play a warrior anyway. it's only minus 2 bonus, crank wisdom or dex and use it for attack rolls with weapon finesse or insightful strike.

>>17574107
Agreed. The joke was made and only brought up again like twice in 5 sessions. We still make jokes about one of the character's from a previous D&D campaign having the feat "greater improved prison wallet". He was always pulling stuff out of his ass (not literally, gross) in combat.

>>17574520
You have a horrible group, you know that.

>>17574541
I hope we have a thread about baculum-based technology. I still remember that one. Baculumu quills and syringes for example.

>>17574520

Petition for a change. -4 rule is stupid. Although, I would pull it out in extreme circumstances where everyone wants to be their anime girl dual wielding claymores.

If they refuse to abolish it, leave the group. They'll bend to your will, I'm willing to bet.

>D&D not racist

>Halfling : -2 STR

>Elf : -2 CON

>Dwarf: -2 CHA

Because all dwarves are autistic, all halflings are weaklings and all elves are sickly fragile things amirite you Dwarfist Elfist Halfist fucks.

>>17574611
>-2 CHA
I think not.

>>17574544
I'm sorry, but your "argument" basically boils down to "wah why can't I get laid"/"I deserve to have sex with any woman I want".

Shouldn't the bigger question here be why feminists feel the need to promote equality alongside preteen narcotics use?

>>17574544

I agree with your statement that there will never be true gender equality. Everything else about that argument should get thrown out the window for you embarrass yourself publicly.

>>17574609
It's not that stupid to be honest, Women are inferior, that's just a fact, they have less muscle than men and nothing to make up for it besides being lighter and impregnable. Representing that in game isn't wrong, but for the most part, not providing LA adjustments if its serious enough of a handicap is a bad move.

>>17574627

Yea? And? That's my point. Who said men were deep when it comes to sex?

And for the record, I had sex a week ago.

>>17574281
What are you 4? The main idea for this article seems to be to play with a group you are comfortable with. If you feel that you would have to restrict the way you play with someone don't get into a game with them. And if being misogynistic is just how your character plays that is fine, but don't expect a female to be okay with it, that is like calling a black person a nigger jokingly and automatically expecting them to understand that you didn't mean it to be racist.

the negative modifier to str rule completely makes sense, but -4 may be a little harsh.

to argue otherwise is pointless.

maybe for a -2 to STR you could give them a +1 CON because women are physiologically more resistant to pain, have better immune systems and live slightly longer, and a +1 CHA because lets face it, you're more likely to trust a woman rather than a man because of freudian psychology which makes you unconsciously think of your loving mother.

these are just fair physical characteristics and are not stereotypical in any malicious sense.

>>17574620
He's the exception.

>>17574642
They're also better generalists, and are better at performing multiple actions at once. And don't suffer from +4 to Jackass.

>>17574651
>Men aren't deep when it comes to sex
You're fucking the wrong guys, girlfriend!

>>17574656
and god knows a game where you can shoot fire out of your hands needs to be as realistic as possible

>>17574656
>physiologically more resistant to pain

actually, that part's bullshit too.

>>17574656
No we aren't, women live longer because they are better protected through out history and go to the doctors more often than men.
We also have less pain tolerance than men, not more. I don't know where you guy's pick this shit up, the only thing women have on men legitimately is multitasking.

>4. Limit the use of official D&D artwork into the campaign. It’s pretty much the only innately sexist thing about D&D, with all the guys (at least the human ones) looking ridiculously buff and all the girls looking ridiculously skinny and busty. It also has a serious lack of racial diversity.
>It also has a serious lack of racial diversity.

What the fuck. Elves, halflings, (half)orcs, and humans working together isn't a shining example of racial diversity? Or is she complaining that there aren't enough black people?

>>17574642
Your statement suggests that the strongest woman on Earth has less muscle than the weakest man on Earth. This is false. Women may, on the average, have less muscle mass than men, but PCs are not average people. They are heroes. They are atypical people. And thus handicapping either gender is plain sexist.

>>17574642

It is stupid in the context of the game.

Your average female fighter/barbarian will be stronger than a commoner.

If she can't beat an average villager in a test of strength, she shouldn't be an adventurer.

PC's are special. They are exceptional people, and as such, are not bound to the same rules John and Jane Dungroofer adhere to.

>>17574609
i asked them to change it already and they said no. they don't really want me to be a warrior type. feels bad man. I might threaten to leave since they would get them to do what I want (they are all in love with me) but I don't want to risk a big fight because there are no other groups in my area.

>>17574656
I would go +2 charisma, and -2 strength. Maybe even a 'flexible' feat (seriously, women are better contortionists than guys).

>>17574611
Effectively a Halfling's build cannot provide as much muscle power and cannot take as much punishment as a human's body could, if my biology does not fail me.

On the other hand, a trained human female can build up much more strength and, depending on muscle mass, can take about as much damage as a trained human male.

Thus, a malus for halflings does make sense. They're half as long as you, dude.
-4 for females is just bullshit.


>>17574620
+3 Char
Halfed movement.

>>17574689
Why do the races get generalized handicaps?
Racist.

>>17574567
we aren't saying the half-orc would be fertile. Similar species can and do reproduce though the offspring "is" sterile. Mules, Llama/camel hybrids, ligers etc.

>>17574689
>>weakest man on earth,
has a strenght of 3. strongest women has a strength of 14, now that we've demonstrated you are so bad at math you could be out done by a kinder-gardener can we move on?
>>17574656
women have 50% as much upper body strength and less lower body strength than men 10%? i forget, anyway the penalty shouldn't be arbitrary it should reflect this difference.

>>17574499
>seems to only ever be taken seriously by right-wing hatemongers.
What about us left-wing liberals who also take it seriously and consider it a threat?

>>17574696
Play a blood-thirsty Rogue, put your combat stat as Dex, jack it up to stupid levels, and go fucking ninja on their asses. Do shit like hang from the ceilings, back-stab people in the face from stealth, and pass stealth checks while hiding in someone's ass.

>>17573842
>feminism
>bitchmagazine.org

i'm getting mixed messages here

I love feminism. in fact, I think the first reform in our society should be tossing women into the same prisons as men.

First of all, I don't approve of -4 STR. No, I don't really give a fuck if its realistic or not, it's just a retarded can of worms. That being said:

>give them a +1 CON because women are physiologically more resistant to pain, have better immune systems and live slightly longer,

Uh, no. That's not how it works. Women aren't more resistant to pain in that manner.

>and a +1 CHA because lets face it, you're more likely to trust a woman rather than a man because of freudian psychology which makes you unconsciously think of your loving mother.

Freud was a charlatan no one with half a brain takes seriously today. Also, unless we're talking about some "politically correct" egalitarian setting, people will take women far less seriously as they consider them inferior.

>>17574684

Women have a higher pain thresh hold because of childbirth no? This one im not sure.

Biologically women do live longer though, this one I know for a fact. Its not because the average life expectancy of males is reduced by men going about without wearing helmets or their lifestyle choices. Ive seen it in a BBC documentary, women are just biologically more conservative and able to live longer.

I can't believe there are people on /tg/ who honestly believe the -4 strength rule is a good one. And people wonder why the article in the OP is necessary.

Here's an interesting article from a feminazi talking about how you shouldn't have elves in your game because they are white and not ashamed of it.

http://arsmarginal.wordpress.com/2011/06/03/deconstructing-pointy-eared-white-supremacists/

>>17574726
>mixed message

nope, you're just confused because it sounds too right to be right.

>>17574697
Women also are pretty horrible at getting people to listen to them, theres a reason that we have a patriarchal society, the masses favor lower voices. If you speak in a higher pitched voice (like for example, the fact that your a girl means you will have one) on average you will be disregarded more often unless what you're trying to come across as is less competent. this is science.

>>17574734
>Women have a higher pain thresh hold because of childbirth no?
No. They don't really have a choice about childbirth, no matter how painful it is you just get it over with.

Well, actually, they do have a choice these days, that's why a lot of them are getting c-sections.

>>17574684
I've seen tests that suggest women who have not born a child can take considerably less pain than men, while mothers can take more.
So, it's not by default but depends on what you experienced before.

>>17574711

A lvl1 Female Barbarian would kick a lvl0 Villager's face into the door and splinter it.

That's why she's a Barbarian and not sewing.

Why don't you understand that? Adventurers don't have the same stats as normal people.

>>17574726
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slutwalk

>I created a Swashbuckler-class, bisexual, Irish pirate called Megan O’Malley. But because I started part-way through the campaign, there wasn’t time given for me to build her back story into the plot. I definitely felt like it hampered my ability to get across how kick-ass she was.

I don't even care about the content of the article. First off, she's stated she played a bisexual character. Anyone who SPECIFICALLY makes it a point to describe their character's sexuality, is an insufferable cunt.

Secondly, she is so arrogant she feels it necessary to have her character's backstory be part of the plot. Protip: go fuck yourself. If the DM wants the characters' history to play a role in the story, you'll know. If not, don't think you're super special, because you're not.

Lastly, she complains how she can't show how "kick-ass" her character is because no one knows (cares) about her backstory. If her character's in-game actions don't show she's a badass, she's not. So shut the hell up and stop being so god damned selfish.

>>17574730
Fine, then +4 Dexterity.

When was the last time you saw a guy capable of doing the splits, when nearly every woman can? For that matter, the most dextrous woman in the world can fire a fucking bow and arrow using her feet, while propping herself up on her hands. The most dextrous guy in the world, can barely scratch his back.

>>17574730

Okay then.

Women:

-4 STR

-2 CON (because if youre going to argue that elves are fragile, why isnt the typical woman similar?)

-4 CHA (because of the male-dominated patriarchal society that looks down on women and would rather have a woman burnt than give her a fair trial to prove she isnt a witch)

-2 WIS & -4 INT (because why the fuck not)

>>17574746
Except, that there very well could be cultural influences dictating what voices people find pleasant.

>>17574734
>Women have a higher pain thresh hold because of childbirth
Women have a higher pain threshold *during* childbirth, only because the body shits painkillers in the process. The rest of the time they break even.

>>17574734
>Women have a higher pain thresh hold because of childbirth no?

No. Please forget that one. Also, claiming something doesn't feel pain as well as "we do" is often a dehumanizing tactic. It's odd that it got somehow embraced by some women like a badge of honor.

>>17574728

Oh god, the backlash would be fucking hilarious

Halflings have a strength penalty because they're basically the size of a six-year-old child. Find me a six-year-old child that can beat a typical grown man at arm-wrestling.

Anyhow, girls have always been good at playing make-believe and generally don't need dice to do it. Just look at how they expect men to behave; fantasy worlds come easily to them.

>>17574775
I doubt it. People naturally respect a low, strong, masculine voice because it conveys authority, certainty, and strength.

>>17574771
Sure, if we're going to go realistically, we should give women -4 on all stats except dexterity, where they should get +4. However, I see no point in doing all that shit realistically simply because it's a huge can of worm and in some situations its better to simple let it be.

>>17574696
>>they don't want me to be a warrior.
Even with the penalty, it shouldn't be a problem, if you want to be one, be one, if you still wont because you want to please them, you may as well start calling them master and wearing a collar to sessions because you're just that submissive. I'm serious, most sexist Master/slave based relationships wouldn't put their toy through this if they wanted to play a warrior for once.

>>17574760

You are a bloody idiot.

C-sections are not an electable option unless strictly necessary. There is a significant risk of mortality.

Women are given the electable option of general anesthesia if they dont want pain.

>>17574788
All of these are cultural values. Unless you provide evidence (international studies) then you are just talking out of your ass.

>>17574746
One can get around that one easily.
If you have rhetorical training and watch that you don't shriek at people, gender does not matter so much.

>>17574696
If you're not trolling, then you really need to quit this group. For several reasons, not just because of the -4 strength rule.

>>17574799
Prove it's cultural.

>>17574797
i am pretty meek in real life, but the real reason i don't play one is that -4 str is a big handicap. i might as well be as strong as i can.

>>17574256
The reason that all my female lovers weren't cumming was because I wasn't playing with their prostate?

Shit I still got a lot to learn about this sex thing

>>17574791
If we're going to go by 'realistically', then guys get an automatic -4 to Cha due to default being sweaty-neckbeard, and improving their charisma is directly tied to a combination of their Str, Dex, and Con scores, averaged out. Further they all automatically come with the 'Asshole' flaw, and have to pay 10 XP to remove it. Which apparently, you failed to do.

>>17574817
I am not going to quit the group....I live in a rural state and don't have another group to go to.

>>17574799
There are plenty of studies on this matter, but they lean the other way. This is why the voices on automated phone systems are almost always female, why the pre-recorded voices on trains and elevators in Japan are female, etc. People are somewhat less likely to be annoyed by a woman speaking in a calm tone.

>>17574696

It's probably the whole "protect the woman" thing. If they're wrapped around your finger like that though...

rolled 4 = 4

>>17574797
I'm a sexist master of a submissive woman slave and I put her through this once but then I was submissive because that is my fetish, so we were both submitting to eachother and didn't play any D&D because we were too busy being subs.

And I take offense to your post.

>>17574818
You were the one who made the original assertion in this thread that people naturally respect deeper voices. So I think the burden of proof is on you.

Also, you can't prove a negative.

>>17574797

Yes. What anon said.

Balls up. Real men respect your choices, weak cunts fear confidence.

"I'm playing a female warrior. I'm also not going to have -4 STR."

"No"

"Bye. I'll find a group that doesn't treat me like a doormat."

Do you accept behavior like that in a relationship? Because it's basically the same shit in a group.

>>17574797

You are a dumbass. Really? A negative 4 to one of your major combat stats is no big deal?

>>17574808
>>one can get around that easily with training
No shit, that's why racial modifiers are not all encompassing.

>>17574833
There is no need to start insulting simply because my post upset you, honey. Please calm down, stop being so hysterical. :)

>>17574841
Simply look at reality to see that people respect male speakers more. That much cannot be denied.

YOU made the assertion that this is merely a cultural construct, so prove that.

>>17574837
I don't need to be protected though =(

>>17574849
Maybe to a barbarian.
Like i said, invest in Insightful strike or weapon finesse. problem solved. Unless she wants to be a musclegirl the -4 strength may be a hinderence but its not that preventative. at most you're locked out of Paladin and Barbarian. still, if you have -4 and no benefits, you should argue for a -1 LA.

>>17574835

You're in a shitty relationship, and your partner(s) doesn't respect you.

Stop taking it lying down. You're just telling them it's ok to limit how YOU play the game for their sake.

Also, where do you live? There may be more groups than you realize.

>>17574853
Sorry bro, I'm not gay.

>>17574456

It's traumatic because society says it is. Same with child molestation bar some really violent things.

Check the side of the article. There's an ad for a "feminist sex toy store for everyone."

>>17574882
Oh, I apologize. I only assumed you were because you were acting like a woman. =/

Good god. This fucking thread.

>>17574896

Hurf durf, durfy doo.

Also.

>Emoticons

Revised edition:

Women:

+1 DEX (because they are generally more flexible)

-4 STR (because duh)

-4 CON (because if youre going to argue that elves are fragile, why isnt the typical woman similar?)

-6 CHA (because of the male-dominated patriarchal society that looks down on women and would rather have a woman burnt than give her a fair trial to prove she isnt a witch, also try having a female intimidate an ogre with her shrill high pitched voiced)

-4 INT (because they are generally bad at math and the sciences and therefore also the arcane) (the pursuit of arcane knowledge is comparable to mathematical and scientific pursuits, unlike the source of a sorcerer's powers)

-4 WIS (because i havent thought of a reason yet)

>>17574842

Bitches need to accept reality and realize there are drawbacks to shit, especially playing a gender that is generally physically weaker than the other.

>>17574878

Getting around it isn't the point.

She's in a group of douchebags that believe female warriors are physically weaker.

At the very extremist situation, the only time I'd rank a female weaker is in a direct strength competition with a male of the same class and they both roll the same number. She'll lose the clinch, but with a chance of reroll in the event of a tie since 1) She's a PC, and 2) It's a douche decision I acknowledge.

>>17574878

Alrighty. If you want to play a male wizard, enjoy your -4 intelligence.

>>17574877

And? They're either penalizing you because of your vagina and tits, or they want something to protect. Either way, you've got the power if they're all "in love with you" as you say.

>>17574767
then better idea, give girls +4 dex and guys +4 str.
EVERYBODY IS HAPPY.

>>17574907
>-4 WIS (because i havent thought of a reason yet)

Well, women are emotional so that makes it harder for them to think clearly, which makes the quest for wisdom more difficult for them.

Though I have to admit, you're being a bit unfair to women. Make it +2 dex and -3 everything else, that should be pretty fair.

>>17574907

So, in short:

>HUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>17574882

In that case, I endorse the -4 to stop you from being a "that guy", but on principal, I wouldn't enforce -4 because someone chooses to be female every now and then.

>>17574920
There's nothing wrong with trying to run a more realistic game per say by portraying women as physically weaker as long as it's done maturely, Her group obviously isn't if they aren't compensating her in some way for this penalty for party balance.

>>17574905
That's a pretty terrible reply, dude, but don't worry, it's still a vast improvement over the times when you seriously tried to argue your point and cried about other people's posts.

Also
>acting like an internet hardass posting on a secret internet club where emoticons aren't allowed because people should only post mature, grim dark stuff and making ironic emoticons ruins it
=(

>>17574896
No, I'm acting like someone who sees the -4 bullshit as a shallow excuse by some grognards to pretend it's a justification to piss other people off.

-4 Str is a sad, tired old dead-horse with no basis beyond just ensuring your game group will remain a sausage-fest. If you really want some Str mod for women then make it -2 Str and give them +2 Dex. While simultaneously giving males +2 Str and -2 Dex.

>>17573995
This is actually one of the more sickening things that Feminists do.

They try to imply that male-on-female rape is the only kind of rape. In their minds, or at least in their dialog, female-on-male and female-on-female rape don't exist. And the few times male-on-male rape is recognized as being a thing, it's often treated without anywhere near the same severity, and is often seen as a fitting punishment for men in jail.

Mind you, these are often the same people who say that rape, or at least their definition of rape, is the worst thing you could do to another human being (and on a tangent: It's not, that "honor" belongs to murder.)

>283 posts and 33 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

Revised and Balanced 1.5 e:

Women:

+1 DEX (because they are generally more flexible, but not by that much- seriously)

-2 STR (because duh)

-2 CON (because if youre going to argue that elves are fragile, why isnt the typical woman similar?)

-4 CHA (because of the male-dominated patriarchal society that looks down on women and would rather have a woman burnt than give her a fair trial to prove she isnt a witch, also try having a female intimidate an ogre with her shrill high pitched voiced)

-2 INT (because they are generally bad at math and the sciences and therefore also the arcane) (the pursuit of arcane knowledge is comparable to mathematical and scientific pursuits, unlike the source of a sorcerer's powers)

-2 WIS (because their emotions often cloud their judgements)

-4?
I don't think so.

>>17574767
And I have seen men in india wrap themselves around a pole going 50 miles an hour using nothing but their hands.

Just because women have improved motor functions in their feet doesn't mean they are more dextrious.

>>17574975
>Revised and Sausage-Fest gaming1.5 e:

FTFY

>>17574943

You keep ignoring the fact that adventurers are exceptional. They are player characters. Lvl1 Female Barb vs Lvl1 Male Barb, isn't going to matter since they're both Barbarians.

She's not a regular human being. She's been trained/tested/naturally-inclined toward something whereas Ted and Tara Shitslinger are not.

As an adventurer, she's stronger than Ted and likely as strong as her male counterpart. If she was physically weak, she wouldn't be a fighter.

>>17574958
>implying there is anything wrong with games being sausagefests
Seriously, dude, are you that lonely and miserable that your only contact with women is that one fat goth chick in your gaming group?

I personally tend to avoid joining groups with women simply because they're objectively inferior players (and human beings) and because they change the group mechanic because the average gamer is a social retard who isn't used to being around girls.

I really like how she's recomending to find good DM. That's just shows. How femine she is.

>>17574927
You're severely mistaken if you think someone in this situation has power over the group, they probably like her _because_ she's a doormat. She is flatly refused when she asks for something she wants, if she had them 'wrapped' around her little finger she could get it, instead, she's admittedly meek and does what they say. To be honest, i can kind of sympathize considering I tend to be rather meek and accepting of what my friends want as long as it's not criminal or dangerous, But no matter how you approach the situation, she probably isn't going to get them to reverse their situation, the most she can probably swing is redress in the form of something else, like more starting gold or a negative LA, it's that or leave. They clearly have her wrapped around their fingers if she's willing to stay like this. It's her decision if shes fine with a relationship like that. picture very related.

>>17574958
>Women are more dextrous than men.
But this is false.
The average male is not only stronger than the average female, but also has better dexterity and hand-eye-coordination.

>>17574992
Then why are there different competitions for male and female athletes?

>>17574642
I don't think you understand how large a -4 is. That drops the average woman down to a 6 for strength meaning she can't carry anything no even your precious plate of sandwiches.

>>17575005
Women literally have poorer depth perception, that's a researched fact, and there are car crash statistics that back it up firmly.
Also is it weird if I think OP's pic is kind of hot?

>>17574984
And I've seen huge muscle-bound Russian women carrying a tree-trunk that takes 10 US dudes the same to carry. Point being there's exceptions on both ends.

>>17573974
not ability as in "talent", "ableist" as in "don't make cripple jokes at the guy in the wheelchair all game session unless you know he's cool with it".

>>17574981
>using Brienne as an example
confirmed for never even reading the books
go and read her inner monologues about her training

>>17574964
> And the few times male-on-male rape is recognized as being a thing, it's often treated without anywhere near the same severity, and is often seen as a fitting punishment for men in jail.
I'm gonna call bullshit right there. With the exception of some extremists, feminists are generally out to help acknowledge that male rape happens and is also severe. The major reason that you only see a few recognized cases of male rape is because they're reported far less frequently. Men are usually raised with a "shut up and deal with it" mentality and that carries over. Then, of course, there's the fact that the initial report (if any) will likely be laughed at and they'll be emasculated for even attempting.

>>17574974

Why the fuck was that the funniest post I have seen all morning?

>>17574767
You've confused dexterity with flexibility, a common mistake.
Let me get you a definition of dexterity:
>Fine motor skills are the coordination of small muscle movements which occur e.g., in the fingers, usually in coordination with the eyes. In application to motor skills of hands (and fingers) the term dexterity is commonly used. When applied to the theory of human aptitude this is called manual dexterity.

Dexterity isn't how well you can bend your body to do weird shit, it's how well you can do things like perform surgery.

And statistics show that the average male is more dextrous than the average female.

>>17574992
>HURRR
nope. that's bullshit, the women one will be weaker, you need to wake up and smell the roses, the strongest women is not the same strength as the strongest men, so it doesn't matter that theyre adventurers, being an adventurer simply means their stats are not 9-11.
grow up. Recognizing that in real life women have penalties to strength that are not compensated for does not make it the end of the world nor make it okay to treat women like shit in a game, which is why we give them no penalties in the first place, because its more fun not to, not because, as you've deluded yourself into believing, it makes sense.

>>17575019
Which is why they are statistically better drivers, and pay lower premiums on car-insurance, right?

In reality, we have to deal with a lot of shit we don't in games. Such as y'know, getting jailed for "adventuring" (killing/looting) and yada yada. In games, we can indulge ourselves in a different world, where the laws of this reality do not apply. In reality, yes, there is quite the difference between men and women, both in physique and in mentality. Personally, I believe certain groups (such as men and women) are better at certain things. Men obviously better at physical strength and endurance. Women more agile and better at gauging social situations. These are general trends, and not hard rules. Sure, world's strongest male>world's strongest female. World's most agile woman>world's most agile man. But outside of these cases there is a lot of leeway.

Anyhow, if we can accept dragons, undeath, provable GODS, fuckin' magic, all of which have arbitrary limits and powers... Why can't we accept yet another departure from actual reality in that the men and women all have the same physical and mental potential? It's not much more than that which is required to "fix" a roleplaying game's potential misogynism.

Now, in a hard scifi, modern or even historical scenario, you need to take this into account. But not in normal fuckin' D&D. You're there to slay orcs, rise in power and potentially challenge the gods themselves. Gender feels like it has no place in this. But, that might just be me spending too much time around my female friends (whom I incidentally spend more time with than my RPG buddies). Take it as you wish. I'll keep monitoring.

>>17575065
because men are far more aggressive drivers
that doesn't mean women don't have shittier perception, you know

>>17575057

....you say his post is huur, while yours in nothing but a spawning pool of DUUUR.

Also, learn to use that shift button, buddy. You just make yourself look like a fool when you don't.

>>17575006

Same reason adventurers that aren't professional athletes would be in the amateur league and not in their realm.

Athletes are not your typical commoners as the discussion is relevant to. So don't try and change the subject.

A human female barbarian will be as strong as a male of the same strength stat. By virtue of being an adventurer, she is an exception to the rules of the common human.

>>17575081
No, my post is full of science. Although you're right that i suck at grammatical conventions and spelling, it doesn't change the fact that in real life women have 50% less upper body strength than any man who puts in as much effort as she does. Thats all there is to it.

>>17575079
It doesn't mean they do, either. But being a more aggressive driver is certainly worse, causes more accidents, and leads to more fatalities.

>>17575081
>making a post that is completely off-topic and purely an attack on the poster with the opposing view while at the same time crying that the person in question also attacked the other poster, though only with a tiny part of that post
I shiggy diggity giggity

Men: Biologically superior

Women: Buttmad

This post: The truth

>>17575106
>Everyone ITT: Buttmad
FTFY

>>17575094
>A human female barbarian will be as strong as a male of the same strength stat. By virtue of being an adventurer, she is an exception to the rules of the common human.

No, wrong. Yes, a human barbarian will be, as an adventurer, stronger than the average village woman, or even the average village male. That doesn't mean she would be as strong as her male counterpart.

By the same logic, elven PCs aren't the same as elven NPCs so they shouldn't have racial disadvantages.

>>17575038
Yeah, you got me.
I'm only hafway through A Clash of Kings...
But she did defeat all those knights and was none more stupid in her reasons and only slightly more naive in lookout than the rest of Renly's host.
I still think Arya is cooler, but she's not exactly an argument against women having a competetive strength level.

>>17575106
Most of the women here agree with this post. It's the men that seem buttmad for some reason.

>>17575101
I never said it wasn't. Stop moving goal posts, brah.

>>17575131
It's not men, it's just nerds who never even kissed a girl so they feel the need to white knight them on the internet.

>>17575131
I'm more akin to our friend, Akhenaten here. I'm frustrated, but it just confirms /tg/'s attitudes. They've not changed, and quite possibly will not change. At least since I started going here.

>>17575040
>they'll be emasculated for even trying

I'm not really jumping in on one side of the argument or other, this post just reminded me of something I experienced in college, in a literature class. One day the topic of rape was brought up, as there was a raping in the book we were reading for that week and one of the female students was a rape victim.

See, this leads to a small period of commiserating between a bunch of the women, and I'm just chilling in the back reading ahead, when I hear someone say, "yeah, hey, I've never really mentioned this before, but me too."

Basically one of the guys in the room had gotten violated by his babysitter when he was eight years old. She used a broom and winebottle on him while jacking him off, apparently - he didn't really use those words, but that was the general idea of what happened to him.

Like half of the room started laughing and a bunch of the girls got really pissed at him - not the rape victim girl as far as I remember, but some of the ones who had been consoling her or whatever.

Never saw that guy in that class again. I thought it was the damnedest thing, you'd think that kind of situation would be one where he'd actually be safe talking about it.

Damn.

>>17575148
everyone in this board is a nerd though.

>>17575125

Actually no. Nice try though.

Now, if you said Female Elves are even further more dextrous and fragile than males, then it'd be relevant. But you're not.

We're talking about gender difference within race and unless you're going to make the above claim, you're not talking about the topic at hand.

>>17575168
No, sorry. It's the same thing. You can't just say "no it isn't" and expect it to be left at that.
Elves have racial disadvantages because they're weaker on average so it shows. It goes for both PCs and NPCs.
There is no reason why the same logic shouldn't be applied to genders, unless you believe that they're magically the same. Which, granted, could be the case in some settings, but generally (and IRL) isn't.

>>17575165
That's horrid. Utterly horrid. It's shit like this that makes me want to raze and rebuild society. Egh. Thanks for reminding me I need coffee, though. I hope you consoled the poor bastard, though.

>>17575188
see
>>17575069

>>17575131
I think there is a general misconception in this.
While females are less strong than males in reality, trying to have the same in a game that uses strength as the most important variable makes women far less viable, where it would only be one factor among many in reality.
So you cannot really have an accurate translation of gender dimorphism because the system is flawed.
Thus, you have eather women be hulking monsters in extremes or effectively unable to fight in general.

PROPOSITION!
So, you would need to adjust the system by a modifier that makes them do about the same level of damage while they have less strength and a bonus somewhere else to make it fair.

>>17575212
I agree, dude. I'm the person who wrote >>17574791

>>17575188

I didn't just say "no it isn't."

I gave you an explanation as to why it's not relevant. Try reading more of a post before hamfisting a response.

>>17575100

...fifty fucking percent. I'm sure you have at least 3 papers to cite that supports this?

>>17575231
And I explained why you're wrong.

>>17575229
Thumbs up man. Good that some people are worth saving from the purges.

>>17575204

I wasn't really one of the enlightened people back then, I didn't join in on the ridicule but I didn't try defending him either. I wish I did though.

It just kind of stuck because one of the loudest and angriest girls was one of the most outspoken and loud anti-rape people in the class. I have no idea why she was so upset.

>>17575273

Because white people can be nigga's too.

>>17575242
Three!?
I'm not that incredulous.
here have ONE
http://www.the-aps.org/press/archives/01/30.htm
>>17575252
>>17575212
>>17575229
doesn't make you 3 any less wrong. the arguement is about how we would apply penalties if we wanted to be more true to reality. The guy in question is wrong no matter how you look at the situation, hes obviously trolling but to take him seriously then the correct arguement would be 'because its more fun that way' instead hes trying to argue that penalties for elves because theyre physically more slight matter, but penalties for women because theyre physically slighter don't matter. It's bullshit, you know it, I know it. Stop spouting retarded comments just because you want to be PC

>>17575273
That's pretty awful. I'm glad I didn't have to bear witness to that shit.
>I wish I did though.
I know that feel, bro.

MEATBAGS, MEATBAGS, PLEASE.

YOU'RE ALL EQUALLY SHIT IN MY EYES. NOW GET BACK IN THE FUCKPIT AND MAKE ME SOME DELICIOUS DELICIOUS SOULS, I'M HUNGRY.

HA HA HA! STUPID LESSER BEINGS.

>>17575251

Which didn't actually address what I said in the slightest.

You keep saying PC vs NPC, but the difference I'm talking about is between Males and Females of the same race. Male and Female PCs are different from Male and Female NPCs of the same race.

Of the same race.

And once more so I'm sure you've read it:

Of. the. same. race.

Elves, as a race, are distinct from humans. And since the topic is about gender.

Gender.

Gender.

And, as before, so I know you've read it:

Gender.

>>17575318
>>men and women PCs are different from NPCs
No, they aren't. Women do not get a free pass because theyre PCs. they get a free pass in general dipshit. Women NPCs don't have minus 4 strength. get over yourself you retard.

>>17575318
You're either trolling or you're too stupid to understand the argument here. Either way, everything that needed to be said was said. I'm not gonna waste words trying to repeat the same argument, so I'm just going to tell you to go and read previous posts and try to use your brain and comprehend what they include.

>>17575291
Sorry man. Didn't read the argument through enough. Yes, if you wish to be true to reality, women should have a) less basic strength than men, b) harder to train it and c) a lower strength maximum than men. I do not attempt to deny this. I'm just saying that maybe realism shouldn't be a main concern in a game that lets fairies breed with storm giants.

>>17575336

>I'm not going to tell you WHY you are wrong, YOU JUST ARE!!!

>>17575333

I know they don't... I'm saying a female player character is not a normal person and does not need a -4STR modifier because she has a vagina. You can use whatever reasoning you want to justify why NPCs are the way they are.

>>17575336

Been with it since the start. You're the one that's trying to apply an analogy that doesn't fit.

>>17575318
I've never been a fan of that UMAD faggotry but damn bro.
You are quite upset.

>>17575368
>I already told you while you're wrong and I don't want to repeat myself, go read previous posts and think on them hard.
Fixed.

>>17575369
Too bad. unless you're argument is based on some facet of reality, it doesn't belong, because in real life, no matter how spectacular you are if you're a woman, you will not be as strong as a man. Deal with it.

>>17575384

Unfortunately, having to put simple sentences and repeating things is the only way to make sure the relevant info isn't misinterpreted.

Not actually even upset. Just talking to a 6 year old.

>>17575369
>I know they don't... I'm saying a female player character is not a normal person and does not need a -4STR modifier because she has a vagina. You can use whatever reasoning you want to justify why NPCs are the way they are.

Let's give this another shot.

The stats comparisons are not just between NPCs. And elf adventurer (PC) has -2 because he is weaker than the human adventurer (PC). Following the same line of though, female adventurer has lower stats than male adventurer because she is weaker than he is.

Random villagers and shit like that don't come into play AT ALL.

>>17575396

>based on some facet of reality

>talking about a game where magic and dragons are real and possible to interact with.

Haha. You're cute.

>>17575416
>haha its fantasy its not realistic so nothing should appear to be even remotely realistic haha
i can smell your asspain an ocean away

>>17575165
This fucking pisses me off. Misandry is rampant in our culture, and it has some seriously fucked up but generally not explicitly underlined consequences, like what happened to your friend in class. That is just fucking disgusting and to think a female rape victim got sympathy while a male victim got laughed at doesn't surprise me at all, even though it does sicken me.

Misandry is the word of the day now. Think of how often you see the trope of guys being stupid while women focus on the problems at hand and solve them, and men being nonchalant, happy-go-lucky chucklefucks who don't see anything going on while the women solve everything, or who are generally passive while female protagonists fulfill the active roles. Anymore it's almost an inside joke that the man is "scared" of the woman because even though she's sweeter and more sociable, there's this underlying assumption that women are just "made of sterner stuff" than men and get what they want.

You see this in everything from sitcoms to anime, and it's destroying men's ability not just to be men, but to be right in any situation. Effectively, in drama, it seems sometimes that women get to be the "caregivers" and the "breadwinners" and "wear the pants" all simultaneously while rarely having any real flaws put forward by writers.

>>17575402
nope, you're just trolling, because unless you're a six year old you'd be able to spot the enormous flaw in your argument.

This is an arguement about reality, and the way reality works doesn't give anyone special immunity just because theyre 'an adventurer' similarly, in a game that applies gender dimorphism penalties for women in order to be more realistic, being an adventurer doesn't give you the ability to magically overcome them like they're just some chain you can break and toss off, reality doesn't work that way.

Picture related. it's someone who had to deal with said penalties and never let it make her back down.

Please everyone, can't we just have a conversation about feminist scum without resorting to trolling?

>>17575405

elf adventurer (PC) has -2 because he is weaker than the human adventurer (PC)

I see an elf is weaker than a human.

I don't see a woman is weaker than a man.

>Following the same line of though[sic], female adventurer has lower stats than male adventurer because she is weaker than he is

This doesn't apply because FEMALE is not a race. ELF is a race. FEMALE is a gender within the race. If you want to follow through there to the logical conclusion, all female Elves/Haflings have -6 to -8 Strength because 1) their race is weaker than humans. and 2) They're female.

>>17575435

Ok?

>me so mad... because fiction doesn't need to be realistic. grrrr. so mad.

>>17575476
Why don't they just make the olympics unisex?

If women are equal in physical capability, there shouldn't be a problem.

>>17575442
You're an idiot that's looking at anecdotal evidence and coming to a false conclusion that misandry is rampant. this is retarded and you should stop doing it.

>>17575476
>I don't see a woman is weaker than a man.

Ah, so now I understand what's the problem. You're a fucking idiot.

>>17575476
No shit, that's how it would work if women have -4 (we haven't established that that's how it should be -4 doesn't mean its 50%, strength doesn't scale that way iirc) strength, which is what we where talking about in the first place you scatterbrained derp.

>>17575501
Hey, faggot? This anecdotal evidence coincides with what I've seen my entire life. Now I admit my experiences are limited to me, but I'm talking about what I see on television and in movies as much as I am about what I've seen in real life. If you had read my post at all you'd have seen the words "trope" and "protagonist" - I am referring directly to the universally shared storytelling tendencies in culture today, and because 90% of my post was about that, I think it's more accurate to say I made a single comment on an anecdotal story and then proceeded to tell how that anecdotal story relates to a trend I've seen in our culture's media, which is itself a general pulse for what people are shown, what people want, and what they will accept.

If you're going to say something relevant then use Carl Sagan as your pic, but if you're just going to be a pompous fuck jacking off to his own superiority complex, please use Dawkins next time.

>>17575500

Because this is a game made for entertainment and not a mirror of reality.

>a lot of it can also be explained as fantasy, I think the description for female characters in D&D said something to the effect that females were not limited by their gender to perform the same feats as males in this fantasy world that doesn't exist

I wish it were so innocuous, but I don't think it is. I think it marks the fact that the thought police now have jurisdiction over gaming as well. The best evidence I have of this is that gender equality is NEVER explained within games, which would be necessary if it were a fantasy element. You'll find plenty of explanations of all the various fantasy races and ideas and worlds. You can read about the cultures and histories of Elves and Dwarves and Orcs and all the pantheon, but you're never going to find anything explaining why human males and females have equal ability. It's not meant to be a fantasy element, it's something they assume implicitly and carry over from real world political correctness. If we were being honest, D&D females should have the following modifiers:

STATS

-4 STR
-2 CON
-1 INT
-6 WIS
+8 CHA

SKILLS

-2 Intimidate
-4 Listen
+3 Sense Motive
-4 Survival
+10 Profession: Prostitute

Spell-like ability to cast create baby once every 9 months.

But if games were to be this honest there would be no female fantasy heroes, and gaming as an activity would be targeted for condemnation by the thought police until it was changed.

>>17575501
Oh hey, a rational person on a /tg/ feminist thread. Who'd have thunk.

>>17575539

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_heuristic

>>17576102
>>17575501

sullying Carl Sagan by posting his image in a troll thread twice is a really, really dirty thing to do

I prefer seeing him in threads about world creation or setting exploration, feels more right for the guy

Not even going to bother with the usual polite sage for off topic

>>17574291

Your wrong. your either prepubescent, trolling, lacking a cock, or need to go buy a cock ring.

You def keep your hard-on and in fact have a much harder one if you tie it off so to speak.

>>17574291
>it isnt the blood that makes it hard.

But the main thing that makes a penis hard are the spongy areas in the main body that fill with blood to gain their rigidity. Those are basically bags that use pressure to keep themselves rigid, the oxygen has nothing to do with them as they are not muscles. If you keep them from deflating, they don't deflate regardless of oxygen content.

I'm upgrading this thread from "trollercoaster" to "trollocaust".

>>17576550

That's from "A Man Called Flint" right?

rolled 6, 9, 4, 8, 5, 6, 6, 8, 1, 2, 1, 1, 6, 7, 5, 3 = 78

>>17576641
Wait, What? That's starship troopers right thar.

>>17576745

Oh.

Wait, I thought ST was about humans fighting aliens. The different colored uniforms made me think of AMCF with Flint's infiltrating the big bad's place in a gray uniform.

>>17576785
It is, but that's boot camp.

>>17575165
This is what feminism teaches people...

>>17575953 Spell-like ability to cast create baby once every 9 months.

That's right son, babies come from women. You see, every nine months, without delay and like clockwork, mothers-to-be cast a magical spell on themselves, and then, nine months later, a baby is created from thin air and the new mommy is ready to start it all over again.

>>17575996
>you said misandry so you're wrong and you're an idiot
>rational

>>17577380
Why are you bumping this thread? WHY? Every time I'm reminded of its content I like /tg/ a little bit less.

>>17577730
I'll hug you if you are willing.

>>17577730
I'm not. It's on autosage. Why are you hanging about in a thread you hate?

And more importantly, what exactly do you hate /tg/ for? What discussion or opinions are so bad you dislike the board?

>>17577839
>Why are you hanging about in a thread you hate?
Opened it when it was on the front page, left it to auto-update just in case something interesting happened.

>And more importantly, what exactly do you hate /tg/ for?
I said no such thing. I don't hate /tg/. I'm a regular contributor these days. But I do hate its position on matters such as feminism. (On average; there is no hivemind.) It's no worse than reddit I suppose, but it's still nauseating at times, even on boards like /tg/ that are of a higher quality overall.

>>17577980
So... ASL?

>>17577980
>I said no such thing. I don't hate /tg/
You said you like /tg/ less every time you see some threads. Even if that's not hate now, it's just a matter of seeing enough similar threads.

>But I do hate its position on matters such as feminism.
What's wrong with views you disagree with? They're so repugnant they're nauseating, but aren't worth arguing against?

>On average; there is no hivemind.
It seems pretty balanced to me, with strong voices on either side (plus plenty of non-committal posts). If there weren't, the thread wouldn't last very long.

>>17578077
>You said you like /tg/ less every time you see some threads. Even if that's not hate now, it's just a matter of seeing enough similar threads.
Oh come on now, formal logic? There are also things that make me like /tg/ more.

>What's wrong with views you disagree with? They're so repugnant they're nauseating, but aren't worth arguing against?
I sometimes do, when I feel like arguing. But it's time-consuming, frustrating and rarely fruitful.

On a related note, have you heard of Derailing for Dummies? Reading it is hard, as it forces one to accept one's mistakes (I used to do that shit all the time too), but instructive.

>If there weren't, the thread wouldn't last very long.
Threads like this last long even when there is no dissenting voice, if only because the source alone (even a very mild one like in this thread) provides endless fuel. Although fair's fair, there were a few people ITT willing to defend feminism.

>>17578214
>Oh come on now, formal logic?
If that was formal logic it was mere chance.

>have you heard of Derailing for Dummies?
I have not, but will do so. I think sometimes its sarcastic approach isn't best, but I will judge it properly after reading it fully. Does it apply to feminism dismissing male concerns?

>Threads like this last long even when there is no dissenting voice, if only because the source alone
If a thread is just people criticising an article provided by OP, where's the problem? That's what many threads are, on most boards.

>>17578441
>I think sometimes its sarcastic approach isn't best,
Yeah, it doesn't take any gloves, which is why it's so unpleasant yet instructive.

>Does it apply to feminism dismissing male concerns?
It applies to any discussion of privilege with privileged people.

>If a thread is just people criticising an article provided by OP, where's the problem? That's what many threads are, on most boards.
It's a problem for me in that the concentrated stupidity makes me mad. And there are boards that have a more enlightened view of feminism than /tg/, though they're in the minority IME.

>>17578548
>Yeah, it doesn't take any gloves, which is why it's so unpleasant yet instructive.
No, I'm saying bare rhetoric isn't as instructive as actual explanation can be.

>the concentrated stupidity makes me mad.
>there are boards that have a more enlightened view of feminism
IMO it's rather arrogant intellectually to be so sure of yourself that you see disagreement as stupid and unenlightened.

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