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    294 KB Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)22:47 No.16459878  
    /tg/, what would happen if, right now, a squad of space marines was dropped into Afghanistan or Iraq right now (or when the war was a bit hotter)?
    It doesn't matter how they got there, through teleportation mishap, a fuck up in the gellar field, and so on.

    Or, if you guys don't want to talk about current wars, how about if some marines were dropped into WWII? Omaha Beach, or the taking of Italy, or the Siege of Stalingrad, it doesn't matter.

    pic related, depending on your views.
    >> Shas'o R'myr !!J5+vjygjQuK 09/28/11(Wed)22:49 No.16459890
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    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)22:53 No.16459940
    Gets into fight with local militants due to misunderstanding/shoot first-questions later mentality, marine level destruction ensues, belligerence over the entire region escalates, and then the quagmire gets even bigger?
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:00 No.16460001
    If it were the Alpha Legion, we'd have won the war before it started.
    >> Crix !!yE6m358Qajb 09/28/11(Wed)23:03 No.16460029
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    /tg/ - political analysts
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:04 No.16460039
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    world super powers, China, U.S, etc would get wind of a supiror armed force in their active war zone. their would be a race to acwire the new tech. most likely U.S would get it unless some one got wind of it first. depending on what the marines were armed with it would greatly alter world politics
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:05 No.16460049
    >American Marines are now all replaced by Orks

    Its beautiful
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:06 No.16460057
    >or the Siege of Stalingrad

    I wish. Then all marxists/communists would be dead world wide and we wouldnt be dealing with all this shit today.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:06 No.16460062
    They'd probably kill everyone.

    Or meet the Al Queda, mistake Allah for the Empallah, and go jihad on our asses.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:06 No.16460063
    An RPG would penetrate power armor right?
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:07 No.16460069
    I doubt anything short of artillery bombardment would take down a space marine. A whole squad would be running the place inside of a day.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:08 No.16460076
    >Captain! There seems to be a large number of strange looking Guardsmen heading in our direction!
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:08 No.16460079
    They would either join a side or get the fuck killed out of them. Yeah, they may take a bunch down with them, but if they didn't come off of that whole "For the Emprah" thing and join up with someone, they'd be hunted and killed. Add into this that they don't have infinite ammo, and it's just a matter of time. Couldn't be any worse than the meat grinder that the trench warfare of the first WW was.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:08 No.16460081

    >Blaming Communists for world's problems
    >> Psyker Ted 09/28/11(Wed)23:09 No.16460094
    rolled 20 = 20

    We've been practicing fighten' an' winnin' for over two 'undred years now.

    Sadly, we'd be quite unorky for our accents. Thus, when we reach space and meet the other boyz, we'd be krumped good if we don't krump them first.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:10 No.16460108

    Quite possibly. Although the canon strength of a Space Marine's equipment varies immensely from source to source.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:10 No.16460109
    >Marines worshiping Allah instead of the Emperor.

    Yeah that's real likely to happen.if anything the marines would waste everyone for heresy.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:10 No.16460112

    aryan marine chapter reporting in
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:13 No.16460143
    Problem: Afghanistan is largely expanses of desert. Assuming the Marines had the fortune to land in the middle of a battle, or somewhere with a reasonable population, they'd blow up any opposition. But then what? They'd probably end up running through the desert like idiots, since I can't see them fitting in any available vehicles. If the US decided to get rid of them, it would just airstrike them. If not, they'd probably randomly show up every week or so, shooting holes in things, and then disappear again.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:14 No.16460153
    Except for when lasguns take down fully armored marines. Nothing suggests that a 40mm grenade launcher won't be plenty for engaging Space Marines, especially if the grenadier is armed with a HESH or HEAT warhead.
    >> --W-F-I-- 09/28/11(Wed)23:16 No.16460170

    People really think America would win....
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:16 No.16460177
    They'd probably shoot up the place first before figuring out they're on Terra in the past. The next course of action is to
    A) Kill all humans as they're all heretics for not worshiping the Emprah
    B)Find the Emprah, and make him Emperor of Terra earlier than normal

    Depending on the Chapter, some may skip right to B without slaughtering everyone.
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    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:18 No.16460189
    >Afghanistan is largely expanses of desert
    >2/3 of Afghanistan is taken up in the Central Highlands which form part of the himilays and has no desert
    >only deserts are in the Southwestern Plateau which are only 1/4 of the country

    you so silly sometimes /tg/
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:19 No.16460200
    When all else fails, call in an air strike.
    Even a Spess Mehreen can't withstand a good and proper saturation bombing.
    Hell, modern technology can even guide a cruise missile right up their asses to personally deal with each of the interstellar interlopers.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:20 No.16460205
    Alright, large expanses of... highlands. Point is, it's just not a target-rich environment. They'd be doing a whole lot of running if they wanted to shoot things.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:20 No.16460214

    Except you know, exposed to the cold hard truth of reality, they'd probably all die of shock in moments as their body rejects the organs they have packed in. A IRL space marine would have to be sucking down immunosuppresent like it was goddamn water.

    And even if that didn't happen, its goddamn canon that their bolters shoot depleted water warheads. And their top line battle tank has armor equaling 300mm of conventional steel. We have tanks with far, far more then that.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:21 No.16460219
    They'd be killed pretty easily. Modern weapons are more than enough to destroy their armor.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:22 No.16460230
    Hey, asshole. This may come as a surprise, but people in 40k don't know as much as the players outside, and the players outside don't know with the level of detail that the characters should.
    It is terribly unlikely that anyone in the 41st millennium knows exactly where on Earth the Emperor came from or how long he was there. This whole highlander-style Immortal thing is word-of-god to the players, not common knowledge in 40k.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:22 No.16460232
    Don't forget any proper squad will have a sergeant who runs around without a helmet. That dude can be sniped just as easily as anyone else.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:22 No.16460233
    >Space Marines
    They'd kill a couple soldiers, then get engaged at two thousand yards by Strykers or Bradleys. Enjoy that firefight.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:23 No.16460240
    The Librarian in the group will become the Emprah
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:23 No.16460249
    wat a tweeeeeest
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:24 No.16460257
    >It is terribly unlikely that anyone in the 41st millennium knows exactly where on Earth the Emperor came from or how long he was there.
    Ain't saying that.
    Just saying that any good Codex reading Marine knows the Emprah is immortal and from Earth.
    Put two and two together.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:25 No.16460264
    Deuterium isn't heavy water. Deuterium is an isotope that is often found in heavy water.

    Immunosuppressants, sure. I think that even happens in-universe. But they have powered armor with long-term life support for stuff like that.

    300mm of WHOSE conventional steel?
    There's not enough standardization in the Imperium to say just how much that comes to.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:25 No.16460265
    OP here.
    I'd say that we pretty much agree that the marines would be killed, and looted for technologies, right?

    What if a mob of 25-30 ork boys were dropped into the Vietnam War? Doesn't matter where, or what battle.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:26 No.16460275
    Earth is fucked what with the spore business.
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    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:26 No.16460285
    No one will believe they actually exist and/or the corpses will be locked away by teh feds.

    Ork spores
    ork spires everywhere.

    Humanity is fucked.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:27 No.16460287
    Actually, Afghanistan has been the target of numerous invasions because it's a key land travel route, even if pretty much nothing is there otherwise. Human settlements pop up for a reason, it's not like people found an empty patch of nothing and said "WE MAEK CIVILIZATION THERE NOW" without grounds for doing so.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:27 No.16460289
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    Depends on the writer. May destroy the world for heresy, convert the woldf to emperor worship, if portrayed as lenient, may allow worship of Jesus etc. as a form of emperor worship, may just get kilt by terrorists or Americans or some shit.

    My openion? If smart/ open minded, sides with more powerful force, then tries to bring the world under imperial rule though diplo and conversion. If stupid-fanatical, they get themselves killed after wreaking all sorts of havoc.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:27 No.16460290
    Orks win the war. Orks win all the wars. Orks win Earth.
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    Orkz become Da Impeeryum.
    Da Empra's Green Aynjuls take the role of the Imperium in the new 40K.
    I finally have an excuse to buy an Ork Codex to make this army.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:29 No.16460312
    Vietnam war? Hmm, well the main threat are spores that's for sure. Strange to say it, but ork melee is going to be more effective than their ranged. Shooting wildly is a no go in jungle.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:30 No.16460326
    The only chance we have is if by luck they get napalmed. If they die any other way in 'Nam, GG humanity.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:31 No.16460335

    The passage more or less makes it explicitly clear to be our conventional steel. If it was supposed to be space steel it would have been mentioned to be Plasteel or Durasteel.

    And my point is their bolter shells still won't explode.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:32 No.16460344
    On a side not, what the hell would Agent Orange do to Orkz? I really don't want those nasty little pusballs becoming Super Mutants or something before the nuclear winter sets in.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:33 No.16460349

    The underground cities of Vietnam get infested to the gills by feral orks regardless of what really happens to the original boyz.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:33 No.16460351
    Remember that time one single marine chapter destroyed an entire Craftworld? Or and entire Necron tomb world? Or burn't down half of Commaragh? Do you really think that we have better technology then Eldar or Necrons?
    The marines would fuckstomp us
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:34 No.16460361
    Orkz in win in Vietnam and spread through Cambodia;Thailand;Laos and push on into China. By that time that single mob of boyz has turned into a massive WAAAAAAAAGH and crashes headfirst into the Chinese military.

    The carnage that ensues is fucking glorious.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:34 No.16460362
    Killed? I think not

    The Astartes would seek out and capture a NATO or US personal and interrogate him. Once they learn of their situation and realize that they are either back in time or outside the reach of immediate assistance they would set out attempting to convert eh planet.

    A meeting with the heads of nations would be assembled. Everyone would jump at the chance to meet an alien. All the while the world is going fucking batshit over their arrival. Once they state their intentions and offer the Earth the chance to join the Imperium it is going to be rejected pretty much outright.

    Slowly however, the people will want to join. The promise of a real living God would get many of the religious nuts warping their own beliefs to fit this new reality. Plus the offering of protection and tech advances once the rescue fleet arrives will entice many of the larger super powers. They will want to cut a deal so when the world is converted they remain in a controlling position.

    Even if we eventually turn on them and murder them off with several airstrikes the world will never forget.

    There is a bigger universe out there. There are dangers. Joining the Imperium will open up a new world of exploration and advancement. Plus the offer of the living embodiment of God at their head.

    I say 10 years for the revolution to take place or the larger smarter countries to fold. Be as stubborn as we want. If the astartes threaten annihilation by orbital bombardment by space assets we're going to listening hard before answering.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:34 No.16460370
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    But we're talking about one squad. That's less than a dozen. I'm pretty sure that getting hit by a MOAB would count as an insta-gib template roll.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:34 No.16460373

    Problem: Land Raiders have explicitly stood up to shit that would make our tanks explode even for looking at them. So...something's up, clearly.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:36 No.16460388

    As far as mass-military tech is concerned I'd be shocked if modern weaponry wasn't IG-tier as far as results. The advantage of a Lasgun over an assault rifle is that if the two are equally maintained the Lasgun does not jam as frequently (ever?) and doesn't have to be reloaded. It's a logistics improvement, not a firepower one.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:35 No.16460389

    I feel like the big problem is that Marines, in the end, require infrastructure. Ammo reloads, technmarine repairs, and the like. That infrastructure just doesn't exist on Earth, and no techmarine has sufficient tech knowledge to build it from scratch.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:36 No.16460392
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    What if it was Salamanders?
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    Ultramarines in the hundred years war.....
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    I liked that book better when it was this.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:39 No.16460417
    Writers who have not a single clue about physics or anything concerning military operations?
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:39 No.16460422
    Worse comes to worse, space marines or orks. They get nuked.
    We win, sorry Matt Ward, not even the Ultramarines can survive a nuclear warhead.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:40 No.16460438
    Orkz can cuz da splosion spreds da spores into da atmofeer
    Orkz iz made fur survivin
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    Think Bigger.
    [spoiler]At the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest.[/spoiler]
    Regardless of who they side with, human history is changed almost from the ground up.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:41 No.16460449

    My point, exactly. The armor number is wrong, or space metal. it -has- to be.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:41 No.16460451
    Refering to the Spess Mahreen subject,
    if they have a Librarian, a smart and not fanatical one. He sells his power armor for vast riches. Using his Immortality and large quantities of free time with vast riches and not blowing shit up 24/7
    he becomes an expert in all fields of architecture/science/engineering.

    His power armor kick starts the Dark Age of Technology.
    He will eventually become the God Emprah
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:42 No.16460455
    Actually Lasguns are fairly high powered. They can punch holes in concrete and thick metal. Just in the world of 40k when everything is outrageously overpowered they don't effect much.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:42 No.16460456

    Salamanders are awesome... but building an infrastructure from scratch? I just don't buy it.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:42 No.16460458
    What if it was pre-heresy Night Lords? Say 10 of them.

    Although, they really would't be able to blend in with anything...
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    >spoiler fuck-up of the week
    This is what I get for trying to impress.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:44 No.16460485
    Just wait the marines out.eventually they'll run out of ammo and have only their chainsword to fight with.

    One assault rifle aint diddly
    500 assault rifles that's a whole lot of diddly.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:45 No.16460510
    how long for a marine to die of starvation?
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:46 No.16460513

    The fanwank is showing, friend Anon.


    Civilian air-powered nailgun that can drive holes in concrete. But please go ahead and suggest that we don't have the tech to punch a hole through stone and metal easily.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:46 No.16460522
    This is how it goes down... The Emperor discovers these marines (he is alive during the present, just hasn't made himself known). The Emprah, get's all kinds of nifty ideas, based off these marines. In a few millenia, when tech has progressed enough, he creates the Primarchs, based on inspiration he had during the second millenium when some strange time travelling super soldiers showed up in Kabul.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:47 No.16460526

    No...not really. Unlike Lasguns, it's a vague annoyance.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:47 No.16460528
    Id love to see a few ultras dropped into ancient rome,that or some other chapter with a wall of plot armor
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    Or 40k guns are just. that. weak.

    For fucks sake, your primary weapon for the Imperial Guard is probably a STC someone found for a Laser tag set.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:49 No.16460556

    a) an isolated squad, not a chapter

    b) xenos pretty much suck at war. all of their tanks have armor protection that is <300 mm, which puts them on par with 1950's shit. Eldar firearms have a lower effective range than modern small arms, and their standard body armor can't protect against water-tipped bullets. Tau soldiers are trained almost exclusively in ranged combat, are assisted by targeting shit in their helmits, and still cant shoot better than a trained human soldier. . Necrons are buggy, a group is used by some backwater world's PDF as target practice due to some error. They would still be a credible threat, but i just can see modern militaries getting roflstomped by a a race that pretty much finished technology, but can still be torn apart by converted tractors.
    Really chaos, orks and nids are the only ones that would outright fuck us, because of corruption, spores, and biomass harvesting respectively.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:50 No.16460562

    40k weapons aren't all that overpowered. As was stated above the toughness of creatures and effectiveness of armor makes the weapons look bad.

    I will however say the range on all 40k weapons besides maybe Tau is god awful. But then again the game wouldn't be fun if engagements took place from 400 yards like they do in today's combat.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:50 No.16460564
    Actually, since he's like 30,000 years younger, the most likely response on the Emperor's part would be...

    "HOLY SHIT, FUTURE ME SOUNDS LIKE A COMPLETE ASSHOLE! Better make sure I never turn out that way."

    And thus the Horus Heresy is adverted when he takes the entire family out to Dairy Queen.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:51 No.16460584
    Oh god I actually laughed
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:52 No.16460589
    Personally I would like to see the Blood Ravens travel back. Who knows how much the bloody magpies could steal
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:53 No.16460597
    Anyone trying to say 40k uses todays conventional steel is an idiot.

    First off its an in universe document, meaning their talking about in universe steel, which is no doubt fucking magic space steel. Second there is not just one kind of steel, not even fucking today.
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    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:56 No.16460632
    Calgar? mmm,I've seen a few pics of him over on Wallbase. Might want to try looking there.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:56 No.16460637
    so can most modern firearms. Except at greater effective ranges. Also, our firearms can punch through flak as well

    Reason for lasgun popularity is rugged and simple construction, ease of maintenance, and most important, ease of replenishing ammo. I'd bet if it weren't for that last bit, autoguns would be the mainstay of IG armies.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:58 No.16460655

    All that metal has to go to ships, tanks, ships, and more ships! Can't waste any by shooting it away.
    >> Anonymous 09/28/11(Wed)23:58 No.16460657
    Where do you think the master tapes to the original Star Wars trilogy went? Lucas is just lying so he doesn't get killed by a combat knife wielding scout in the middle of the night.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:00 No.16460686

    Were it magic space steel they would have said so. They mean conventional steel, as in the kind you can get at any reasonably advanced Imperial world.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:01 No.16460691
    If Sanguinius was sent back in time to the current day instead of killed by Horus' attack, what if he met the Emperor as he is now?
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:02 No.16460696

    "Holiest Terra! I can see the ground!"
    >> James Joyce 09/29/11(Thu)00:04 No.16460722
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    Turns out Mars is a Tomb World.

    How long until everything is dead?
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:08 No.16460755

    Black. HOLES. AS. WEAPONS.

    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:09 No.16460761
    We'd shoot at them with missiles and such until they stopped moving in all likelyhood. Reverse engineering their stuff would be quite difficult, they can't even do it.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:09 No.16460768
    Their shit is cleansed and turned into nuterient paste, plus they can eat things that would make Rambo puke, so it'd take a while.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:11 No.16460791
    >has never played Space Marine
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:12 No.16460799
    >implying we're anything like as stupid as they are
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:13 No.16460809
    2 weeks of recycled nutrients+the time it takes for a badass to starve to death
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:14 No.16460813
    >implying we're anything like as stupid as they are
    >Implying that sentence used correct grammar
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:16 No.16460832
    cause they fail hard at the scientific meathod. For a real engineer reverse engineering wouldn't be to hard once we realise that most of the parts are redundant, ineffective, or religious in nature
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:16 No.16460838
    He can probably avert the Horus Heresy and even fight by the Emperor's side.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:17 No.16460846
    You're giving the fluff too much credit.
    Those obviously aren't real black holes.
    If they were large enough not to evaporate in under a second, their gravitational distortion would spaghettify everything within miles just by existing, regardless of material.
    If they were smaller, their evaporation would vaporize the entire continent, regardless of material.
    Those aren't black holes.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:18 No.16460848

    Once they started blabbing about the Emperor on Holy Terra they'd lose what little credibility they had of actually delivering on such a promise.

    Real question is, what would people's reactions towards Games Workshop be?
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:18 No.16460850
    >implying that greentext is bound by your puny grammar rules
    >> James Joyce 09/29/11(Thu)00:18 No.16460857
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:20 No.16460865
    I always assumed that whenever these questions are put forth, GW doesn't exist in that world.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:21 No.16460871
    now that, that is the real question.

    And what would 40k nerds look like now, when we suddenly start realising that the warp exists and theres space elves and all that
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:22 No.16460889
    The Admech aren't as dumb as portrayed, though they are a great deal more cautious.

    "For a real engineer reverse engineering wouldn't be to hard once we realise that most of the parts are redundant, ineffective, or religious in nature"

    That just leaves the material fabrication we can't duplicate, the biological organ link(and the organ itself) we'd have little hope of deciphering, and whatever the powerplant is(hope that one doesn't open a portal to hell on us without all those useless,redundant,religious purity seals and such).
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:22 No.16460891

    >We suddenly realize our inability to come together as a species was due to space elf meddling.
    >> James Joyce 09/29/11(Thu)00:23 No.16460897
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:24 No.16460904
    I lol'd hard
    >> James Joyce 09/29/11(Thu)00:24 No.16460907
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:26 No.16460925
    >Sanguinius comes back in time
    >40k turns out to be our future
    >Suddenly new codex and fluff related releases are a huge fucking deal.
    >> James Joyce 09/29/11(Thu)00:29 No.16460959
    >Every country in the world starts paying GW billions if not trillions of dollars to influence their futures
    >GW is now the single richest company on the planet
    >We still pay $50.00 for a box of Terminators.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:29 No.16460961
    >lynch half the writers before they do too much damage
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:31 No.16460978

    >Keep Matt Ward in charge so humanity can Mary Sue their way to glory.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:35 No.16461021
    >> every codex has the eldar and orks becoming more and more failsoup
    >> this is mandated by the government.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:37 No.16461038


    Did it warrant this?
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:39 No.16461051
    Doesn't that autoarchive?
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:41 No.16461074
    Silly Horus. You're supposed to send him into the future, not into the past.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:41 No.16461076
    No, you're thinking of easymodo.
    Suptg only archives threads that people request.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:42 No.16461095

    >5,000 years later
    >Sanguinius appears in a key battle and turns the tide against Chaos
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:44 No.16461113
    Wait a second. If any Space Marine or Primarch got sent back in time....That would mean that the Emperor is among us right now?! I wonder how confused he'd be.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:47 No.16461138
    You're right, that makes absolutely no fucking sense.
    Ookies. I'm convinced. Human technology is also powered by belief.
    If we can power the Emprah we can shield our Land Raiders from destruction, and that's significantly more convincing than <pick your puny alloy>.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:51 No.16461183
    I always assumed that humanity had the same mass psychic effect that Orks did. In fact they have to since the only thing really keeping the Imperium afloat is humanity's mass belief in their Emperor, and in turn, humanity.

    Should the Emperor ever die the Imperium would likely fall overnight as all that feelgood worship converts directly into intangible chaos despair.

    Demons. Demons everywhere.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)00:59 No.16461272
    either that or humanitys resolve would get even stronger
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)01:00 No.16461283
    The Emperor is also what keeps their FTL tech working in the Warp.
    So they'd be fucked if he died without psychic field.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)01:01 No.16461294

    I doubt it. Humanity has over invested itself into one person. Ironically the one person who essentially just wanted them all to believe in themselves and the power of humanity.

    The Emperor probably rages constantly seeing how the Imperium has twisted his goals so disgustingly.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)01:03 No.16461320
    really? someone told me that the emperor was dead and it's the psykers who were meant to keep him alive that are powering the Astronomican
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)01:05 No.16461334

    They kill all the filthy ragheads they can find, then meet up with the nearest US Marine convoy. Thanks to them, we become the glorious IMPERIUM.

    Fuck yeah.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)01:06 No.16461346
    No, his spirit/psychic essence is still alive. The 1,000 psykers keep it alive.
    So technically he's not dead, dead. More like, whatever the opposite of brain-dead is (coma?)
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)01:10 No.16461392
    Wouldn't have a chance. The first stage would be despair at the loss of the Emperor, and that despair would be sparked instantly throughout the galaxy with the loss of the Astronomican and the failing of Emperor-directed divinations, etc.
    Barring Starchild/Sensei/Illuminati-type scenarios, this means that even if Humanity could have theoretically worked its way out of the "superficial" implications of the instant loss of what they'd believed to be their only hope (y'know, grimdark civil war of unprecedented proportions), the truly meaningful implications of such emotions in the WH40K universe are the bolstering effects this all has on the Warp, its entities and CHaos cults. Also, the Golden Throne being left unguarded means another Warp-Realspace overlap forming instantly in the former Imperium's hugely powerful capitol. Ah, and lets not mention the Void Dragon next door.
    So, thirty seconds pass: who's left to regain and reenforce their resolve?
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)01:12 No.16461411

    That we know of at least. Has there actually been a firsthand account of the Golden Throne since the Horus Heresy? If the Emperor had died and they had some how still been able to support the Astronomican do you really think they would have made that knowledge public to the Imperium?

    I think not.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)01:12 No.16461422
    maybe some Primarch that hasn't been killed or corrupted yet?
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)01:14 No.16461434
    the emperor is turkish, most turks are muslims

    god save america if space marines intervene in iraq/stan
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)01:16 No.16461456
    The Emperor was born long before any Turks settled in that area or Mohammed started his stupid cult.
    >> Anonymous 09/29/11(Thu)01:22 No.16461510
    The Golden Throne is a Webway gate currently being held shut to prevent all of Hell breaking loose, literally.
    I can accept the possibility of psykers unwittingly holding up the Astronomican on their own, but remaining uncorrupted by the Warp and simultaneously holding it back? I find that very hard to believe.

    He/They'll basically have to deal with a galaxy-spanning Eye of Terror, and- get this- vastly augmented Chaos Gods.
    Like, post-Imperium-Civil-War Khorne. Primarch versus the Kharnversor...?
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