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    215 KB Lumbermarines Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)21:03 No.15939363  
    Lets continue our child shall we? First up some summaries and the link to the archived thread.


    Crusade Chapter
    -Founded in the 33rd Millenium around the time of the Beheading
    -Geneseed is pure and from the Blood Angels and we revere our primarch
    -Renowned for skill in melee and leadership under fire
    -Our hero, is our chaptermaster, who Slew a daemon of note
    -We are from a Temperate Feral World that we rule over with Direct Rule
    -Our organization is unique with an emphasis on drop pod tactics, axes, and a large number of bodies but a disdain of ranged combat
    -occasionally we fly into a rage
    -we maintain a good relationship with the Adeptus Astra Telepathica and their psykers
    -we have a hateboner for the Dark Eldar
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/14/11(Sun)21:04 No.15939377

    To continue:

    The bloodclaw/skyclaw equivalents are clean shaven
    The grey hunters start to grow some beard
    The long fangs/wolf guard add mutton chops
    The wolf scouts add some mustache
    The Wulfen are just batshit insane versions of whatever they were before
    The Lonewolves are basically just batshit insane versions of higher larger beard units

    By the time you reach the HQ levels these guys have a formidable battle beard. Some of which are rumored to to be capable of being wrapped around as a sash.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/14/11(Sun)21:05 No.15939392

    so beard denotes rank
    bears are lifelong pals that are tamed and respect is earned as one proceeds from recruit to marine
    axes are primary weapon
    prefer wooded settlements to forgeworlds/hives
    tree is planted when one is initiated, cut down in ritualistic ceremony upon ones death and used as funeral pire
    bears live REALLY long, older = bigger
    revere sanguinus as much as the emperor
    live on sylvanus in the ydraggsfbalidsg sector
    chapter master holds title of cleaver
    has epic bear smokey based on polish soldier bear
    world feller, only axe capaple of felling world tree, only a few chapter masters have been able to wield it
    We also talked of a Ranulf equivalent of Paul Bunyan.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/14/11(Sun)21:08 No.15939413

    There was also talk about a legendary dreadnought which I would like to elaborate on once I finish reposting:

    His tree IS the Fortress Monastery.
    The Dreadnought is in fact the interred remains of our Founding Father.

    Remember, Bjorn himself a Chapter Master. And since he was walking with Leman Russ himself, he may very well have been the first Space Wolf Chapter Master post-Primarch. So there is precedent.

    Ah, the World Tree, we could have an Ancient Dreadnought, represented by Bjorn, who has been in service since the conception of the Chapter, his tree is said to be miles wide, and towers higher then many a mountain. This tree is a centerpiece of the chapter, a view that few see. Those that travel to the world tree, do so only in times of great need. For, the anger of the Dreadnought, is said to be capable of cracking the ground beneath him. Forests tremble at the booming of his manly voice. Waking him up in a time unneeded would be a terrible fate for the initiator.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/14/11(Sun)21:09 No.15939427


    The chapter could have been founded after a passage of the Blood Angels, there, Veteran Sergeant Cleutin passed, and it is said, that blood of Sanguinus dripped from the Shroud that day, staining the earth beneath it, and from his blood, sprang a forest of red oak, crimson as far as the eye can see. Taking this as a sign, the Original Chapter Master and a few marines stayed behind to culture what would be the chapter to come.

    Their growth and belief in the Emperor stems off the logarithmic spiral that is visible in nature. They as they grow, their shape is unaltered, despite any successive curves thrown their way. True proof that the Emperor's will, and Sanguinus bloodline live on.

    Obviously it is in the boughs of the great tree that the teachings of Sanguinus are scribed. Some carved into the wood, others housed within codices large as a man. And, at the top, adorning the monolithic peak of nature, is the statue of their Primarch, visible to all with the magnification to see, overlooking the fortress and nearby towns towns, ever vigilant, keeping them under his protective wing.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/14/11(Sun)21:24 No.15939562
    And now for new concepts:

    Larger then normal companies, 150 to 200 marines perhaps.

    Each Captain takes a name, denoting their territory (and which tree takes up most of it), and which company they are in (numbers not necessarily ordered, we need a tiering system for trees now):

    1. Lord Gingko
    2. Lord Cedar
    3. Lord Pine
    4. Lord Yew
    5. Lord Oak
    6. Lord Araucaria
    7. Lord Podocarpus
    8. Lord Beech
    9. Lord Birch
    10. Lord Dogwood
    11. Lord Maple
    12. Lord Willow
    13. Lord Cypress (new recruits area, possibly referred to as the "Saplings"?)

    Our Dreadnought, deserves the name, Lord Redwood, and not only does he own the massive tree, but guards the crimson sea of trees from shroud story.

    The chapter has a large number of marines, larger then let on. This can be supported by having an unknown number of marines who left the planet, perhaps to take care of other planets, those marines could be called the Deforested, for they left their homeland of Sylvanus.

    Also on the topic of the black rage:

    Wulfen/Lonewolves/Mark of the Wulfen is our equivalent of the Death Company, or the Red Thirst/Black Rage manifesting. Perhaps, we refer to them as the "Wicker men". Statuesque, foreboding signs of their bloodline.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/14/11(Sun)21:43 No.15939762
    I guess we can wait to work on this.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)22:54 No.15940400

    I was thinking the first company should be red oak, with our honor guard being the Sequoia Guard.

    Maybe have our veterans and venerable dreadnaughts feature ornaments made of the sacred crimson oak polished to finest luster believing that this sacred oak offers them a portion of protection from sanguinius himself.

    Maybe base the story of our first chaptermaster on the folk tale of Paul Bunyun, but replace the blue ox with a blue bear
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/14/11(Sun)23:00 No.15940454

    Last I recall, Paul Bunyan was our equivalent of Ranulf, but perhaps that story/ranking could have been equivalent to a chapter/company champion?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)23:06 No.15940507

    You mean we didn't have Paul Bunyun as our founder?

    I thought he was, now I'm confused.

    So far the only title we have is that every chaptermaster is given the title of "The Cleaver".
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/14/11(Sun)23:14 No.15940564

    There were basically 2 ideas for chaptermaster. One was that the Dreadnought is it, although I would opt for him to be more like Bjorn in that he was an adviser. The other was Joseph Montferrus, as a character, basing it off of:

    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)23:22 No.15940628

    I thought we all agreed that Paul was our Bjorn encased in the base of the tree of life, and our current chaptermaster is Joseph Montferrus The Cleaver.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/14/11(Sun)23:24 No.15940646

    That works too. Reason to get a nice Contemptor Dreadnought.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/11(Sun)23:59 No.15940949

    So what should we focus on next?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)00:06 No.15941023
    >see this thread
    >"oh dammit not another new /tg/ chapter-

    I was about to complain about why you people just don't work on pre-existing /tg/ chapters, and then I read the archived thread.

    I wholeheartedly approve and wish I knew more about the 40k fluff so I could contribute.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)00:06 No.15941028

    Well the new concepts need to be debated upon, perhaps some work on the characters etc. Really add flavor to them rather then just counts-as. Some fluff for the people on the homeworld or battles etc.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)00:10 No.15941073

    Contribution does not need to stem primarily from knowledge of 40k. Concepts, or knowledge about aspects that the chapter is based off of also work wonders. An example would be knowledge of trees or mythologies in which a tree of knowledge or life, or knowledge of things Canadian would help.

    Hell even knowledge of being manly works or 18th century.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)00:15 No.15941109

    Well one think we could do is have each company be represented by a different type of tree, and comer with titles and name based on the largest and tallest trees for their champions/heroes.

    Here's an example:

    Our first priority should be to flush out our founding so we can get some decent fluff for Paul and the world feller, as well as set a foundation to base the chapter on.

    We should also detail our current chaptermaster's slaying of that daemon prince.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)00:24 No.15941191

    That concept was suggested here:


    Using names of trees that grow in a temperate forest.

    As for the daemon prince, I have a feeling it should be Nurgle. Khorne, represents an immediate thread in his fire affinity, but a Nurgle force pollutes the land further with his plague, possibly bringing in damaging insects similar to pine beetles. This would deal catastrophe to the their world/nature.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)00:30 No.15941243

    Nurgle is exactly what I had in mind.

    Imagine it Joseph Montferrus riding into battle riding atop Smokey wielding the Word Feller after being deemed worthy to wield it.
    >> Jareddm 08/15/11(Mon)00:36 No.15941305
    I see some pretty solid potential with this chapter. I know you're going for a "counts as Space Wolves" approach but what I'm most interested in is the roll for unique organization. I'd be interested to see this done differently than just Space Wolf Great Companies. My idea comes from a scene from the movie 13th Warrior, where there's just a large mass of warriors, and a call goes out for a certain number of men. The men then stand and volunteer themselves individually to partake in the mission.

    So I was thinking instead of companies, just have a mass of warriors who stand up to make themselves known.

    Also I don't see a roll for the strength of the chapter. You know, understrength/overstrength/nominal.
    >> Jareddm 08/15/11(Mon)00:45 No.15941396
    Nevermind, found the strength roll. Overstrength. In that case I like to push my idea even further, as making a name for oneself, especially for one of the beardless, would be even more important among so many marines.

    The scene I'm talking about:

    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)00:51 No.15941440

    That could work too. Whats everyone think?

    Also glad to see you back, I remember working on the GE with you.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)01:02 No.15941519

    I think they should still have companies(each representing a different type of tree), but maybe they're more homogenous than traditional chapters..
    >> Jareddm 08/15/11(Mon)01:03 No.15941535
    *Salutes* We did some fine work then and I'm hoping to repeat our success.

    Under my idea, the title of captain wouldn't really be an actual command position, simply one of honor and experience.

    Also, I'd like to expand on the specific crusade that led to the Lumbermarines's founding. Are they still on said crusade? Or have they settled down and now defend the territory they claimed?
    >> Jareddm 08/15/11(Mon)01:04 No.15941544
    Agreed. Perhaps the company is treated as temporary for particular theaters or campaigns?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)01:05 No.15941545
    >Lets continue our child shall we?

    Fuck you I didn't make this shitty ass chapter nor did most people on /tg/ so don't say "our", referencing the board, as it's creators.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)01:06 No.15941551

    I think it was mentioned in the last thread that we spread our influence by conquering planets bringing them under our rule, so we have a combination of crusading and defense of our worlds maybe in addition to any campaigns or wars we fight.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)01:13 No.15941584
    I kind of liked what OP has described in >>15939562.

    Maybe we can go for a combination of the twwo ideas?
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)01:17 No.15941618

    You know, you could reference this as control of planets. Or territories. They aren't leaders of "companies" for example, but more or less, lords of a given space of land.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)01:22 No.15941652

    That works for me.
    >> Rillius !TA0T5gpKEQ 08/15/11(Mon)01:27 No.15941679
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    Really any chance to use this image.

    Excellent work, OP!
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)01:41 No.15941807
    So for characters we are gonna fluff up:

    Paul Bunyan (Ranulf)
    Dreadnought (Bjorn Counts-as, which may or may not be Paul Bunyan)
    Joseph Montferrus (Possibly Ragnar/Logan?)

    Left over spaces for possibly some form of Canis for bears?

    Speaking of Bears, how do you feel about one of the lords being in charge of caring for bears, his men/armies should reflect a high usage of bears.

    We also need to decide on a name for our bears.
    >> Spawn_More_Synaps 08/15/11(Mon)01:56 No.15941908
    Just as long as it's balanced out, as in, no Bearing the Bear Bear or Bearding the Beard Beard
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)01:58 No.15941917

    How about Lord Redwood given the title Equitatus of the Ursus Cavalerie , those under his command ride atop their bears into battle, the bears front paws could be outfitted with lightning claws.

    As for legendary bears we do have Smokey and Old Blue to flesh out although official names are up for discussion.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)01:59 No.15941930

    Nah I meant more like stables etc. Or wild life reserve guys. Dudes who care for the bears because they are more trained in that sort of field. In the sense that thunderwolf cavalry would be those guys. Bear trainers.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)02:00 No.15941936

    Old Blue?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:04 No.15941955

    Well since our founder is based on Paul Bunyun why not give him a blue bear to go in place of the ox.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)02:07 No.15941972

    Wasn't Redwood going to be the Dread?

    Personally I think Araucaria or Podocarpus would be better for the bear lord.


    Makes sense, but we need to decide whether or not, The dread is Paul Bunyan or someone else.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:08 No.15941985
    hey good to see you guys again
    just wondering, is the dreads bear still alive, and if so, how huge is it?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:13 No.15942022
    for world feller, i was thinking that in the days of the founding, there was an invasion of daemons on another planet in system, and that during the purge and reclamation, the original chapter master had the great axe created and blessed by the astropaths, and used this to not only purify the world, but also shattered it in the process, hence the name, this is hpw he ended up in the dread, we could have it so that his bear saved him, starting the tradition.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:16 No.15942041

    I think the dred should be Paul


    As for his bear let's just say no one knows for sure, the only known remains are the pelt made of it's fur, some say it may still live with one of the many mountain ranges of our homeworld some say it may even be the size of a mountain.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:16 No.15942045
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)02:17 No.15942052
    Fixing it:

    His skin hardens like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together.
    His limbs are as strong as wraithbone, his bones as a load of adamantium.
    His is the first of the Lumbermarines blessed bears; [only] his Maker can draw His axe [against him].
    For the mountains bear food for him, and all the beasts of the field play there.
    Does he lie under the shadows, in the cover of the redwood and the forest?
    Do the shadows cover him as his shadow? Do the willows of the brook surround him?
    Behold, he plunders the river, and [he] does not harden; he trusts that he will draw the sea into his mouth.
    With His eyes He will take him; with snares He will puncture his nostrils.
    >subbed words into a biblical passage for 40k sense.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:18 No.15942060
    that last bit about nostrils? maybe not...
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:22 No.15942088
    we could have it so that killing a daemon prince or geater daemon is not only good for normal reasons but grants one immense respect in the chapter and that if someone does, they are blessed by the old dread in the woods. and when a chapter master is too old and frail to continue, he is put in a dread and sent into to the woods to wander(like in judge dredd), this would allow us to have a dread retinue for old dread/paul
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)02:23 No.15942095

    Obviously the snares, are a metaphor for the many spikes and horns that adorn a Khornate greater daemon.

    Or we could just cut that line out.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:25 No.15942117
    the nostrils thing is just a bit wierd to finish on, also, with the greater daemon thing, we do something like the 3e Dark Angels codex did with cypher? if there is a daemon prince in an oposing army on a X+, it becomes the original daemon prince(seeing as they are eternal and are just reincarnated over the years)? this gives a clear cut BBEG for the chapter to pursue for glory/honour
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:26 No.15942128
    could also grant bonuses to army like furious charge etc...
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:33 No.15942182
    dude still good, better than me, and makes awesome fluuf
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:39 No.15942245
    so in regards to paul, i take it he never leaves the planet? if he dose, could we field him with a ven-dread retinue of old chapter masters, we could have an awesome name likethe first frontiersman or something
    also, their bears go and chill with pauls? like an awesome living spirit of the woods type thing
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:41 No.15942271
    one thing, i take it that wearing a bear pelt is seen as a grave insult to the ancestors and so on?
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)02:47 No.15942327

    Most likely.


    I like this man. Nice work.


    That retinue makes awesome fluff. And with regards to Paul being the Bjorn, it makes sense that they would want to rescue him. If he died, they would literally have to relocate an entire chapter to cut down the tree. Which also stands as a monument to their Primarch.

    As for the bears, I have no idea?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:48 No.15942335

    Paul is to be disturbed only when he is needi.e he need to help in a very important battle or the chaptermaster or lord seek his advice


    Bear pelts are only to be worn by marines of great note(champions, lords, force commanders, the vetern company and the Sequoia guard) they are made by shaving parts of their companion and sown into a cape usually bearing the chapter standard.

    What do you guys think of that.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)02:52 No.15942373

    Iono. Maybe we could fluff it so that, if a bear dies in battle, its hair is shaved and woven/bear pelt is made into the standards or capes or whatever, so that it may fight again in spirit with its companions.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:55 No.15942395
    well, if there are still old chapter amsters in dreds chilling inna woods, then it stands that their bears would either still be around, or woul have died bravely, warranting a shrine or monument, so with the now really old bears would be rather large like paul's bear, not as big, but still at least land raider sized, if not larger. we could maybe use them as close combat walkers, tret them like turbaconepic sentinels or dreads, but lightning claws and monstrous etc.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:56 No.15942407

    Yes the bear is never skinned or completely shaven.
    Even then only those of worth as deemed worthy by the lords and chaptermaster may weeve such a pelt

    I also support the routine of venerable dreds in the forest.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)02:59 No.15942426

    I think that's a beary good idea. It's better then wearing the skin of their comrades; that would be too heavy a burden to bear.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:00 No.15942432
    i just broke my keyboard with that face-SLAM, had to get out my spare
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:01 No.15942446
    Could you not bear it?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:06 No.15942491
    im afraid not, it was unbearable
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:08 No.15942507

    Well Smokey for example being centuries old would easily be the sizer of a predator, only a handful of bears ever live this long.

    Old Blue on the other hand who is over 7,000 years old might be the size of a landraider.

    We don't want to get too mary-sue about this.

    As for monuments every fallen brother's axe is put on display in the great hall in the battle monetary those who become dreds have there axes' affixed to their chassis on our homeworld, I don't know about the bears.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:09 No.15942518
    i like the idea of a sort of garden or something, watched over by old blue
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:17 No.15942575
    okay, so onto untis, we've got the cavalry sorted, what other speacialist units do we have? woodsman(scouts), the dread reinue thing, the giant bears, maybe the termies have some cool shit going on, like the deathwing or death company
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)03:19 No.15942593

    The size of the bear is largely irrelevant. The post here >>15942052 was largely attributable to the view of an Imperial Guardsmen. Imagine a human, probably less educated then you are now, looking at a bear that is 13 and a half feet tall, 34 feet long and 20 feet wide. I'd think that is a fair description of it.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:23 No.15942621
    yup. okay so fluff is sorted? of course we ca create some epic tales of woodsman _____ saving planet ____ frm certain doom and stuff later, but i think now we need to focus on the unit structure and so on. we touched on chapter structure (one mass, volunteers for each mission, sort of company for campaigns etc)
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:24 No.15942622

    For specia; units we have:

    our dred routine
    The Whicker Men
    Ursus Cavalerie

    Scouts are refereed to as saplings and scout leader given the title "Keeper of the Gardens".
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:26 No.15942639
    whicker men?
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)03:26 No.15942640

    That would roughly be the size of a Whale Shark in terms of width and length, and the height of an African Elephant. It would weigh like 15 tonnes.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:27 No.15942648
    and have lightning claws and stuff. i can totally see that, like a smaller version of a squigoth or something
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)03:27 No.15942651

    Wicker men was the proposed name for our members who succumb to the red thirst/black rage/death company, which would be represented by those with the Mark of the Wulfen or Lone Wolves.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:31 No.15942672

    Chapter structure is one lord for each planet who is decided by our chaptermaster and given given control over a planet under the chapter's control marines volunteer to be under the command of one of the lords.

    Force commanders and other officers are chosen per campaign/slash mission and usually decided by reknown.
    >> Spawn_More_Synaps 08/15/11(Mon)03:34 No.15942686
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    On the subject of fuckhuge bears, I found this thing on /co/. Not sure what to think myself.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:34 No.15942688
    another quick note on bears, are gonna have an option for the marines to bring their companions along? or will we restrict this to elites/nobles within the hierarchy
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)03:36 No.15942694

    Fenrisian Wolf wargear, Thunderwolves, Fenrisian Wolf Packs, Thunderwolf Mounts all are bears. Some simply smaller/younger then others. Some cybernetically enhanced.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:37 No.15942700

    Please refer to >>15942173

    Cubs could help with scouting.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:38 No.15942707
    okay, so are our troops basic unit gonna use bolters, or are we gonna give them exes(basic close combat weapons) and bolt pistols? upgrades for them would be power axes, moving onto special axes that count as thunder hammers for terminators and so-on
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:40 No.15942721
    I think a each month a squad of saplings are chosen as "The unlucky saps" and need to distribute and maintain maple syrup levels.
    >> Power Gauntlet 08/15/11(Mon)03:40 No.15942722
    Careful with posting MLP on /tg/.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:40 No.15942723

    Power aces and bolt pistols for everyone.

    Higher ups like lords, force commanders, and the chaptemaster wield two-handed power axes.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:41 No.15942724

    Your gonna give them executables? YOU DAMN HERETEK
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)03:41 No.15942727

    Frost Axes are good enough. I don't think we need thunder axes. Thats too much axe. Traditional weapon, not wolf weapon.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:42 No.15942738
    this HAS to be included in the fluff, if we wanted to be a bit silly, we could even say its like stimulant and make a wargear option, like an apothecary upgrade, conferring the bonuses of maple syrup onto the squad
    >> Spawn_More_Synaps 08/15/11(Mon)03:43 No.15942741
    Thats what its from?
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)03:44 No.15942746

    Wolf Tail talisman. Obviously blessed vials of maple syrup enhance the psychic defenses from Sanguinus' bloodline.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:47 No.15942773

    The dark eldar are always trying to steal our blessed maple syrup.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)03:54 No.15942827
    So are we all for the whicker men? Or not?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:56 No.15942840

    I am.

    Their armor painted to look like petrified wood and the chest plate featuring the Tree of sanguinius
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:56 No.15942841
    yup, what are their physical traits/bonuses/characteristics again?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:57 No.15942849
    i still think someone should b putting all this up on a wiki, updating and adding as we agree on new things
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)03:57 No.15942850
    I am now picturing a Dark eldar running away from a lumber marine while holding a pitcher of maple syrup
    >> Spawn_More_Synaps 08/15/11(Mon)04:01 No.15942874
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)04:02 No.15942878


    Mark of the Wulfen can be taken by Grey Hunters, Skyclaw, Thunderwolf Cavalry, Lone Wolves, Wolf Scouts, Wolf Guard, Wolf Guard Battle Leaders and Wolf Lords. It replaces the Attack Characteristic with d6 + 1 Rending attacks because you "claw" at things with your feral rage. For us, this could be symbolized as a blatant disregard for weaponary and just a desire to kill the target or however we fluff the Black rage's manifestation. We were also going to fluff the Lone Wolves as wicker men, in that the more powerful members who succumb to the black rage are better represented statistically.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:02 No.15942879

    I hope someone draws this.

    A lumbermarine and his bear chasing a dark eldar runs a way with a huge thing of syrup sampling some himself to mock his chasers.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:03 No.15942887
    i was thinking more of a recruit that has no combat role, but confers the trait to the squad, lie a squad upgrade: a ____ squad may pay XX points and add a n Unlucky Sap to the squad
    >> anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:08 No.15942929
    You know, the name Lumbermarines is not bad, but it doesn't have that spacemarine feel to it. So how about we change into one of the following

    Knights of Flora
    Sanguinius's Forest
    Keepers of Life
    World Guardians
    Sanguinius's Bears
    Axe Knights

    Actually, now that I think about it, we should have Sanguinius somewhere in our name, what with our chapter's worship of him and all that.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:08 No.15942931
    okay, so wicker men and syrup vials are down, aswell as a lone hunter variant, now onto elites like termies etc?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:09 No.15942939
    I for one think lumbermarines works
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:10 No.15942946
    if we do change the name, we should keep with the ursa and sylvanus style of name
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:11 No.15942954

    Well I have suggested the idea of the sequoia a group of our most elite and distinguished veterans that act as the chaptermaster's personal routine.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:12 No.15942960
    okay, any particular traits, or are they just like space wolf/blood angels elites
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:13 No.15942963
    Sanguinius's Forest can be the name of the crimson forest on our homeworld Sylvanus
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:14 No.15942970

    Well for now they're just elites, but you are more then welcome to thrown around some ideas.
    >> anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:17 No.15942981
    I was just throwing out some ideas for names. But renaming ourselves into something of Sanguinius's something or the Something of Sanguinius just seems attractive to me.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:17 No.15942985
    Remember that ALL Blood Angels successors have Sanguinary Guard unless they don't know their origins. So what should our variation on them be?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:18 No.15942988
    maybe their shoulder pads are pieces of wood taken from the forest? their axes could also have smething similar to this... are we keeping the storm bolter power fist option? i think we should just have hammer/shield and twin claws options. drop pods are used alot, ummm, beards?
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)04:18 No.15942991

    One of the lords has fallen into favor with the Imperium and as such was gifted with suits of terminator armor. Possibly call them the Lignum Landsknecht? Or something. Lignum Vitae being ironwood.

    My vote would be to Lord Oak.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)04:20 No.15943001

    Our equivalent likely revolves around some form of wolfguard. Possibly a Storm Bolter/Frost Blade set up? No idea, up to you guys.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:20 No.15943002
    I say they use chainaxes. It combines the chainsaw and axe, both implements of the Lumberjack.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:22 No.15943015
    but is a severe downgrade from a poweraxe, and is harmful to the enviroment, something thta the chapter pays close attention to
    >> Power Gauntlet 08/15/11(Mon)04:26 No.15943037
    Yep. A bitch of a wizard comes to town, boasts that she once vanquished the legendary Ursa Major. A few ponies call bullshit, so two of her groupies find one and wake it. A bear that's taller than a two-story building comes forth. Turns out, after it's defeated, that that was a juvenile--Ursa Minor. That picture is of the Major with the Minor in its arms.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:27 No.15943040
    sounds good, shields made of an extremely hard/dense wood? i think we should have a 0-1 unit of termies with thunderaxes, these only count as hammers, but are fluff-wise immense axes which release tremendous amounts of power on impact.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:28 No.15943047

    I'm all for that, I especially like the name.

    We will rename then The Sequoias of Sanguinius

    The armor of all our lords, veterans, and dreds feature ornaments crafted form the sacred crimson oak of The Sanguine Forest as the lumbermarines believe it to bring the wearers the protection of Sanguinius himself .
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:29 No.15943062

    Chainsaws could be one of the weapons for our dreadnaughts
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:31 No.15943074
    good poin actually, bringing in another question, how do we handle normal dreads, are they tasked with eternal servitude in the horde of lumbermarines, or do they have a retirement option, where they tend to the forest, or bears etc..
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:33 No.15943087

    Give me a name for a planet of redwood trees and I'll write some fluff for the Lord of Oak
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:36 No.15943101
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:36 No.15943104

    Dreadnaughts are comprised solely of past chpatermasters all of whom reside in the tree of life with Paul and are only called in times of great need/
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:39 No.15943123
    so all dreads are venerable, and are fluff-wise some of the wisest and oldest things in the imperium. no normal dread options available, as to weapory, all close combat, paul can ask cleaver for world-feller if cleaver isnt already using it?
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)04:42 No.15943143

    I wouldn't say all close combat. I imagine they would like Rifleman configuration etc. I don't see them liking Melta/Flamers though. Missiles iono.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:43 No.15943150

    One last question, which chapter shall donate to us terminator armor.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:44 No.15943160
    dark angels, they have enough

    also, made a wiki if someone wants to colab all this info and put it up
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:45 No.15943164
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:47 No.15943180

    World feller as well as the title of the cleaver is pasted down form one chaptermaster to another
    each dred also has their personal axe decorating the center of their armor


    I was thinking chainsaw in one hand assualt cannon in the other with some opting for a second power fist.


    Thank you
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)04:49 No.15943187

    Who knows? Maybe BA, maybe Smurfs? Maybe even the Sallies. Perhaps we were given enough already. I would say we should have under 100. Sallies had 130 iirc, and DA had around the same in the Deathwing. GK had 6 companies worth at one point but who knows how much now. That being said, we are an old chapter, we have had time to accumulate it.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:49 No.15943189
    of course, Lumbermarines that are off duty have a tendancy to dress in women's clothing and hang around in gay bars on hive worlds.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:55 No.15943232

    Eru Ilúvatar Lord of the Oak

    Equitatus of the Lignum Vitae

    Eru having fell into great favor with the dark angels has brought to our chapter the gift of terminator armor.

    Those deemed worthy by the lord of oak himself and only once they have proven themselves in battle may a lumbermarine hope to adorn one of these sacred relic and join the ranks of the Lignum Vitae

    Given Dominion over the planet of Sequoia langsdorfii it is here amongst the vast forests of redwoods and the planet's many coasts that these few elite marines wait for their call to battle and service in the name of Sanguinius and the emperor.

    We can elaborate later on just how we won the dark angels' favor
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)04:56 No.15943239
    Seems we are making more progress once again.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)04:57 No.15943245
    inadverdantly catching a fallen while on campaign with them?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:00 No.15943269
    okay, so termies are fluffed up, are we sticking with the thunder axes and ironwood shields?

    anywho, next up, fast attack.... are we doing assalt marines, or are we going to do sneaky infiltrating woodsman, effectivelyclose combat kroot, with power armour and throwing axes
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:03 No.15943281

    Why not have both assault and sneaky both completely separate from each other under the control of two different lords
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)05:03 No.15943283

    Well we have bear riders for one, bear packs, I'd imagine Skyclaws fit in with the group led by Lord Cypress, and perhaps just fit period. Jumppacks would allow short bursts from branch to branch as they travel. As for landspeeders? Iono, up to your interpretation.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:04 No.15943288

    Alright assault marines under the control of lord cypress sound good.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:04 No.15943289
    should we do something similar to DA, and have ech company cosen from a group of men on an individual planet, ie, each planet is a different type of unit/force, like the cavalry planet, the terminator planet etc, with the homewrold being a mix of these, like smurfs 1st company
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:06 No.15943299

    We don't really have companies, but I could see the lords working together to build a strike-force for a campaign
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)05:08 No.15943312

    A campaign appears, a council of lords convene, and should the circumstances be dire enough, they awaken the Ancient dread and his retinue. After tactics and plans are discussed, each lord returns to their planet to ask for volunteers. This can at times, change the make up depending on the amount per planet.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:12 No.15943334

    That is a perfect idea.

    How about calling the assault marines under lord cypress the falling leaves or foilum
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:13 No.15943344
    rushing autumn?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:16 No.15943361

    Neither of them fit entirely due to cypress trees being evergreen trees
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:21 No.15943402
    winter's lance?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:23 No.15943418
    anyone wanna help me out with the wiki? done world feller and old blue
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:27 No.15943438

    I wasn't aware we had done fluff for world feller and old blue.

    You could open entries for:

    Lord of the Evergreen

    Lord of the Oak
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)05:30 No.15943453

    Lord Cypress. I don't think we should have a Lord of the Evergreen.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:33 No.15943474

    Alright then should Daniel Aykroyd be retitled Lord of the Cypress or should he be given a new title; perhaps Lord of the Pine is more suitable.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:38 No.15943509
    they are goin up, op, can you post a list of the main pages and we can branch off from there, also, just go and write fluff based on what we discussed here
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)05:38 No.15943512

    Take your pick:

    1. Lord Gingko
    2. Lord Cedar
    3. Lord Pine
    4. Lord Yew
    5. Lord Oak (Terminator heavy - Logan Counts As)
    6. Lord Araucaria
    7. Lord Podocarpus
    8. Lord Beech
    9. Lord Birch
    10. Lord Dogwood
    11. Lord Maple
    12. Lord Willow
    13. Lord Cypress (new recruits/skyclaws area, possibly referred to as the "Saplings")
    14. Deforested (those who do not live on forested planets)

    And we have Lord Redwood (Paul Bunyan) with his companion Old Blue.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:41 No.15943530

    We have Lord Oak.

    Alright Daniel Aykroyd is now Lord of the Pine.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:42 No.15943545
    put up a few(namely ones we've discussed or mentioned) as well as deforested, bunyan, etc. go nuts guys.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 08/15/11(Mon)05:44 No.15943571
    Why not make a page on 1d4chan?
    All of the other homebrew chapters are there too.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:46 No.15943587
    umm, okay, if you want. never used it before, so i wouldnt have the first clue
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:47 No.15943597
    Daniel Aykroyd Lord of the Pine.
    Equitatus of the Ursus Cavalerie , those under his watchful command ride atop their fabled companions into battle against the enemies of the Lumermarines and the imperium.

    Given control over the planet Aspin Primarus; it is here on this mountainous, snowy conifer covered planet that these marines care for and train diligently with with their bears to sharpen their skills in preparation for the eternal war raging throughout the galaxy.

    So for now we have:

    Lord of the Redwood Paul Bunyun
    Lord of the Oak Eru Ilúvatar (terminators)
    Lord of the Pine Daniel Atkroyd (bear cavalry)
    Lord Cypress (scouts)
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:49 No.15943620
    published akroyds suff into his page
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:52 No.15943648

    don't forget Eru

    Also need pages for the dred routine and the Sequoias of Sanguinius
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:55 No.15943668
    Who think our terminators should use lightning claws since they can be seen as kind of like bear claws
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)05:57 No.15943679

    Honestly I'd do it, but haven't done uploading stuff to 1d4chan before. If someone would instruct a bit, I could totally prune through the threads and condense all the fluff in a legible format.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)05:58 No.15943688
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)05:58 No.15943690

    That first off, is going overboard like the Wolf Codex, and I think we should shy away from that. I'd be fine with just Thunderhammers and Stormshields, as we are as stalwart and grounded as the trees we raise.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:00 No.15943703
    No CHAINFISTS? They fit the whole aesthetic so perfectly...
    Kinda disappointed.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:01 No.15943711
    love it, someone put it in the Lignum Vitae page on the wiki
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 08/15/11(Mon)06:02 No.15943721
    1d4chan is like the wiki for /tg/ stuff.
    super easy to edit stuff there.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)06:02 No.15943722

    Chainfists would work just as fine.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:05 No.15943750

    Just a thought, but I see your point the one thing I don't to happen is this chapter just becoming the space bears.

    I was thinking of having Lord Podocarpus head the assault marines.

    The deforested marines can be where all are armored support and ranged weapons come from maybe?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:05 No.15943753
    There emblem needs to be a splintered tree over plaid.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:06 No.15943768
    siunds good, are we still doing wood paneled vehicles?
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)06:07 No.15943769

    I viewed them more as Lost Companies of the space wolves.

    Considering we have so many Tree lords at the moment. Do we make one of them the ranged one? Or do we remove some?
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:07 No.15943775
    i thiink we are doing a blue backfground, with a red tree, and a blue axe in front
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:08 No.15943790
    but but but plaid... they're lumberjacks :(
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:09 No.15943800
    have maybe 5-6 tree lords aside from redwood, and have one be a kinda spleinter group that partaes in campaigns and loves ranged weapons, but is more in it for the thrill of the hunt. like actual hunters with rifles and stuff not bolters
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:10 No.15943808
    the colour scheme is lumberjacky, and individual groups might use plaid
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)06:11 No.15943812

    The Symbols and Colors are in the first thread.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)06:15 No.15943854
    Archived btw:

    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:15 No.15943859
    okay, now, ive been here since post 3 yesterday, and ie started the wiki, and so on. are using the wiki, or 1d4chan? choose now. if we choose 1d4chan, someone needs to start up the page and copy what we've got on the wiki

    choose wisely
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:16 No.15943871

    Our chapter standard should be the tree of life, but every lord has their own standard in edition, so the Ursus Cavalerie for example would feature the chapter standard on one shoulder and the standard of the Lord of Pine on the other.

    As for the deforested marines they all will be under the control of the lord of autumn


    Our vehichals will adorn bear ornaments made of the finest mahogany polished to a fine luster.
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)06:17 No.15943880

    I would be willing to make an account and gather/prune through all threads and do the work on the 1d4chan if you want me to. However it may require some time for me to do it all.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:18 No.15943889
    i think that would be best, how long do you reckon? i could help
    >> OP !!v11kvgDbkWO 08/15/11(Mon)06:21 No.15943909

    Honestly, not very, the issue being it is simply 3:20 am where I am, and I needa go out tomorrow morning to hit the bank. Once I arrive home, I would be more then willing to start/finish what I have been doing.
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:24 No.15943922
    mkay, thats all good, ill be around so, see you omorrow
    >> Anonymous 08/15/11(Mon)06:30 No.15943948
    On the subject of Lord Podocarpus, I was think of basing him off of Alexander Suvorov going by military tactics.

    If someone would be kind as to try and but a French/Canadian spin on him.
    >> Starshadow 08/15/11(Mon)07:11 No.15944198
    - Marines live in Subsector Taiga
    - PDF wear red RCMP uniforms
    - Bears feed on giant deathworld sized shark-salmon. During spawning season they leap up waterfalls and eat anything that gets too close. Most adults are bigger than Orca whales.
    - Not greenpeace marines, but industry and nature are kept separate. Factories and such are constructed in/on barren mountains, away from and above the forests.
    - Human population lives in trees. In houses built on the sides, or with the truly huge trees, tunneled into the living wood.
    - There are raccoons. Although cute, they are also very smart and tend to troll unwary humans.
    - Native humans are not "feral" but because of the lack of farmland they are almost all hunter gatherers. Fish and game are not only plentiful, but outnumber humans by a huge margin and pose a threat if they are not kept away from settlements.
    >> Starshadow 08/15/11(Mon)07:47 No.15944409
    - Wild bears are pretty bro and lazy. If a normal human threatens one, the bear will basically stare at him for a while and go "seriously man? seriously?". However if you push one too far, threaten a cub, steal their food, or claim dominance they will flip their shit and go berserk like you would expect.
    - As on Earth, lumberjacking is statistically the second most dangerous industry to work in. The #1 spot, of course, goes to crab fishing. Salmon only have orange meat because they eat shellfish. Think about that for a second.
    - The "feral" part of feral world refers more to the local flaura and fauna of Sylvanus than the people who live there. Far from being something to preserve, the forest is the enemy. A dark and scary place full of dangerous animals. While trees are felled for fuel and building materials, most are cut simply to keep the forest from overrunning human settlements.
    - Sylvanus is almost completely green except for the poles which are icy and barren. Humans live all over the planet, but the more industrial cities are all located on broad plateaus of rock that rise above the forest. The one exception is the planet's central starport which occupies its own island.
    >> Starshadow 08/15/11(Mon)11:18 No.15945932
    Whats the angle on maple syrup you guys are going for? You would need an alternate name for starters.

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