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    348 KB Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)14:56 No.14569864  
    RPG systems you really like but /tg/ never seems to talk about/care about.
    Obscure or just "underappreciated", go to town. Tell us why you like it and if you think other people would like it.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)15:02 No.14569923
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    I'm especially fond of FIGHT!: The Fighting Game RPG.
    The "metagame" concept is majorly wonky and the dude knows NOTHING about formatting, but it's excellent for martial arts/beat-'em-up/fighting game style games.

    It's easy to make things in, easy to play in, and it's fantastic to play a facepuncher that isn't gimp. Too bad that the only method of combat is 1v1.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)15:03 No.14569931
    I play this underground system using nothing but d2s.

    It's a pretty obscure die, you've probably never heard of it.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)15:09 No.14569995
    I love BESM 3.0. It's so varied and it's so all-encompassing. You can pretty much make...anything in it.

    Problem is the whole animu weeaboo thing.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)15:38 No.14570269
    Anything not DnD or 40k.

    >> Wereling 04/12/11(Tue)15:42 No.14570312
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    Tri-Stat DX and it's sister system Silver Age Sentinels. It's a flexible, powerful system that's easy to learn. With a few slight modifications it could work for pretty much any system.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)15:52 No.14570405
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)15:54 No.14570415
    A play using d1. Everyone fails all the time.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)15:56 No.14570436
    CthulhuTech. I love the game and the setting, but /tg/ seems to hate it. It's got a quirky setting that people either love or hate and a system that's very chance based. I love it, it feels like you're gambling for the lives of your characters, which is in a sense what you're doing.
    >> Star Frontiers? Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)19:21 No.14572116
    TSR had Star Frontiers - sort of D&D in space, so-so system, similar to those expert D&D rules. Nice alternative to maybe no DH/RT/DW, Star Wars, and Star Trek.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)19:23 No.14572130
    Hey, guys! What's going on in thi-



    What the hell is that? I think I shit my pants!
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)19:27 No.14572170
    Continuum. Though that might be deliberate, given that you've got to wrap your head around time travel and everything it entails.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)19:30 No.14572197

    You know how World of Darkness is for the most people synonym to the Vampire: the Masquerade? It's not a huge problem, but in /tg/s case we have only talks about old World of Darkness (Maquerade + sometimes Ascension) and nWoD: Hunter, Vampire, Mage and Changeling (suprisingly often we discuss Changeling).
    What's dreadful to me it's the fact that not one person wants to talk about Werewolf: the Forsaken. No one seems to play it. Promethean gets more discussion then W:tF . Seriously, it's disapointing.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)19:31 No.14572204
    I agree with this guy. I found the dX core book at Half-Prise Books, and flipped through it - I'm surprised we don't ALL use the system.

    Oh well.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)19:36 No.14572242
    God damn it, I love Fight!

    Been trying to modify it for more of a Beat 'em Up feel, so that I can essentially re-create God Hand in roleplaying format. Haven't made much progress due to lack of time/interest from my regular playtesting group, but I hope to have something someday. Really, an option for multiple characters at the same time would be absolutely wonderful.

    Honestly, it could be fun to work on rebuilding the game so it's a little less . . . well, poorly-formatted and dense. It's a fun system, does what it does well, but it can really turn players off with the weird complexity in parts.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)19:41 No.14572284
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    I'm a savage through and through. Try to make threads every once and awhile but they never seem to go anywhere.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)19:44 No.14572307
    Deadlands and 7th Sea.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)19:45 No.14572312
    Sillohete core. D6 based and pretty neat.

    Also Rifts because rifts as a setting is such a pile of wtf why shouldn't the system be also.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)19:47 No.14572325
    Nobody mentioned StreetFighter RPG from white wolf. Raddest combat system ever.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)19:50 No.14572355
    Never really see people talking about d20 modern

    inb4 it's just dnd with guns
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)19:52 No.14572371
    i never see anybody talk about lacuna

    seriously, it sounds so cool but nobody cares
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)20:00 No.14572427
    I fucking love eon, but it is swedish so tg never talk about it :|
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)20:36 No.14572786

    W:tF isn't really that interesting, bro. I give it credit for being way better than its oWoD predecessor but that's not saying much. It doesn't have the newbie simplistic appeal of Vampire and lacks the balls out creativity of the non-big 3 gamelines. It's the chocolate section of Neopolitan ice cream; not as inviting as vanilla and not as awesome as strawberry.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)20:40 No.14572835

    Because it's a D20 system, which makes it pretty suspect to begin with. The fact that it has no grounding in a particular setting makes it haphazard mess to run. It's FAR from being the best system to run a modern action game in.
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)20:41 No.14572850
    i only ever hear /tg/ say how shittily it handles guns, which to be fair, look awful
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)20:43 No.14572868
    Just use Spycraft2
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)21:37 No.14573341
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    Never played Fight!, but tell me if you make any progress, bro.

    Mind elaborating upon these?
    >> Anonymous 04/12/11(Tue)21:41 No.14573370
    In Nomine - A modern day Angels/Demons game. The setting is a sort of cold war between heaven and hell, with each side having factions that prefer the status quo or want to push for Armageddon.
    >> Balthazarr !!hQW2Rt/THGB 04/12/11(Tue)21:47 No.14573409
    Seriously, it's just the bell curve that makes me happy. Everything else is just icing on the cake.
    >> GURPSfag 04/13/11(Wed)00:11 No.14574905
    Seconding this. Fuck awesome system. Well written rules. KEYS TO THE MOTHERFUCKING UNIVERSE.

    The fact that /tg/ers will go out of their way to decry how shitty it is, spouting off utter nonsense about it being a load of algebra [which it's not, honestly, there's more math involved in DnD], when they've not even read the fucking rules, really gets to me. The icing on the cake, with this, is that [typically] the alternative they'll suggest is d20 modern. FACEPALM AHOY!

    I don't get the hate, I really don't. It's a really great system, that let's you do anything. The rules and playstyle are just as cutomisable as characters are, and yet, few people will actually bother reading it, and would rather waste their effort "re-doing/re-jigging/re-fucking" d20 based games (and no, d20 is NOT a SYSTEM; a system can be used in ALL situations with little modification, if any. d20 changes massively from game to game). Can you not handle rolling more than one dice?

    Shits me to absolute tears.

    I'm also quite fond of the WEG Star Wars game, though I've never gotten a chance to play it. It actually stays true to the spirit of the Movie Trilogy. Yes, there's only one. And it finished in 1983.

    Sorry for the rant, chaps. Carry on.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)00:21 No.14575018
    I think GURPS catches hate for two reasons: 1.) Sure, you can create a totally unique universe of you own design, but you're going to end up putting in a LOT more work than if you're playing in an established universe with another system, and lots of people just aren't willing to commit that kind of time. 2.) The system can be pretty intimidating at first look to new players, and that probably turns off players and GMs alike before they get a chance to actually learn it. Sure d20 Modern is shit-covered shit with shit filling, but d20 as a whole is a system that most other people already know, having been around in one form or another since the mid-70s. Even when the rules vary wildly from setting to setting, cultural memory fools them into thinking it's actually easier/better.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)00:30 No.14575138
    I like quirky, one-off games that require a bit of adventurous investment from willing groups. Like Og: The Roleplaying Game of Caveman Miscommunication.

    The short of it: you're a caveman and you're trying, along with your cavebuddies, to survive the hazards of the world B.C. (and not that shitty newspaper strip where it's B.C. but somehow Jesus already existed and died).

    The catch is that you're not very smart. Caveman society, as a whole, knows only 18 words: You, Me, Rock, Water, Fire, Stick, Hairy, Bang, Sleep, Smelly, Small, Big, Cave, Food, Thing, Shiny, Go, Verisimilitude.

    While the GM may describe things and you can describe actions, you can only communicate with your co-players In Character with these words and, being the caveman that you are, you only know maybe five or six. What's the difference between Hairy Thing (dog) and Hairy Thing (sabre-toothed cat)?

    Depends on how good you are at mime, mimicry, and cave drawing. And, as the book says, "When in doubt, say your few words louder. That always helps."
    >> GURPSfag 04/13/11(Wed)00:36 No.14575194
    1.) I'll concede this. But, it should be noted the SJ Games has a LOT of very cool worldbooks, such as Reign of Steel and AutoDuel [my two faves]. Sadly, they're mostly only available as pdf's now.

    2.) D20 isn't a system though. If it were a system, a d20 modern character, a Spycraft Character, and a DnD 3.5 character, all of equal level, would be compatible in a campaign. Which they are not.

    And d20's only been around since what? 1999? 2000? the first two editions of DnD were not d20; comparing them to DnD 3.x or 4e is apples and oranges, chalk and cheese.

    I'll agree with what you're saying about people believing it's easier, simply because it's been around longer, but that's the kicker; every time you start playing a new d20 based game, you have to re-learn parts (often quite large parts too) of the rules. I played in a group that started off with 3.x, later switched to Spycraft, and then some other one that I don't remember. And I was...mystified as to why I was spending more time reading "rules alterations/changes", than getting into CharGen and play.

    d20 is the VHS (as opposed to betamax) of RPGs; WAY shittier quality, but more popular simply because of prevalence. For a community whose inherent nature is one of higher intelligence ('cause let's face it, Football Jocks generally aren't RPers), it's disappointing to see the majority settle for something that's (at most) 2nd best, quality wise.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)00:54 No.14575424
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    It has to be the Low Life version of Savage Worlds, where you can do anything from bottle magic smells for later to animate garbage golems to stabbing yourself with weapons to store for later use. Also every weapon is unique. In the setting, since most things are scavenged, there is no standard longsword or bow, though you can totally make a quarterstaff made from a sign mounted with a slingshot that is mechanically different from a double ended battle axe made made of sharpened dinnerplates that you can detach.

    Though I'll never get to run a game of this again unless I decide to make a quest or something.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)04:53 No.14577684
    It's also because the fanbase is ridiculously vocal about how their system is the best ever.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)04:59 No.14577713
    Fallen Reich
    Burning Wheel
    Weapons of the Gods
    Star Wars Saga
    Spirit of the Century
    Fading Suns

    And to a lesser extent CoC/Delta Green.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)05:00 No.14577721
    Oh, and Traveller too.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)05:08 No.14577758
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    Fantasy Craft!


    It's like 3e, but not. It's also definitely not Pathfinder.

    Extreme character option depth makes for very versatile characters, everything is just sort of turned up to 11. Very crunchy, but that doesn't bother me much.

    Focus on teamwork and some pretty robust non-combat classes that you will actually want to play.

    Spell-point rather than spells-per-day system. (though there are some "once per encounter" "once per adventure" abilities).

    The gear system makes me cream. So many little tags make a battleaxe noticeably different from a longsword etc. etc. Gear choice feels meaningful and powerful.


    The book's layout is near incomprehensible, takes a lot of flipping around to 'get it' to begin with.

    Character creation takes longer, has way more steps.

    If you want to be a magic user you basically have to pick Mage as one of your classes. That or Priest with the Magic alignment.


    In the end it will be VERY familiar and VERY strange to anyone who's played 3E, but in my experience it's fucking amazing.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)05:12 No.14577778
    Also, magic's overall power level got reduced. It's still effective, but not an omnipresent force of facerape and tears like in 3e/3.5e.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)05:13 No.14577788
    I like the BRP system, its easy to use, can be used in almost any setting with little modification, and is pretty plug and play on alternate rules or extras right in the book.

    For some reason though, its not really that popular. Not just on /tg/ but worldwide. Their forums are quiet, fansites are not maintained, discussion is slow.

    Why no love BRP internet?
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)05:15 No.14577804
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    Drakar och Demoner, särskilt 1991 års upplaga.

    *It's not played outside of Sweden.
    *Even in Sweden D&D has become the standard instead of DoD.
    *You can't really talk about it on an english chan.

    *Dunno, I like the system and it has a special place in my heart.

    It's not like it's ever going to be translated to english, plus they fucked up both setting and rules in the newer editions which is why I only really like the '91 edition with houserules to replace the suckier rules and exploits.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)05:16 No.14577809
    call an ambulance™

    d20 setting where the protagonists are criminals in the great USA. It deals with the horrors of gang warfare, and the excitement of a heist. Its pretty grimdark in that the pcs invariably end up getting SWATted or something similar.

    The name was chosen because of the similarity with call of cat-choo-loo (people usually end up dead there too).

    great setting, not enough coverage :(
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)05:21 No.14577829

    I fucking love BRP man. And considering Call of Cthulhu's written around BRP, there's plenty others who like it too.

    But yeah, great system. very simple and easy to learn, and flexible as well.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)05:21 No.14577830
    i have the danish version. It was translated in the late 80s i think.

    it was the first rpg I played. Good stuff. Very brutal rules-set. (hit locations and life-points based purely on your size and con, no level involved. Armor is absorb-type. Its pretty cool).
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)05:46 No.14577962
    Unknown Armies. Once in a while we'll get the rumor threads, but there's really not much love for this great game.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)05:51 No.14577991
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    Powers and Perils... Magnificent RPG from the 1980's made by Avalon hill. Still played worldwide but hardly known by you young'uns
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)07:37 No.14578515
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    Play WEG star wars all day erry day

    feels good man
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)09:44 No.14579382

    I am in love with Saga Edition. It makes so much sense.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)09:50 No.14579416
    SLA Industries! Seriously no one ever talks about it at all and it is fucking magnificent.

    Don't Rest Your Head gets mentioned every now and then and is also awesome.

    Unknown Armies is the greatest game you will never play.

    And for fantasy style games you can't go past Reign as a system and the default world is fairly interesting and different.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)09:54 No.14579436
    Kult for all your grimdark with extra grim and headshitrapepoisonfuck
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)16:47 No.14582743

    I'm in a Spirit of the Century game right now and it is one of the best RPG experiences I've ever had.

    I'll also throw in an agreement with Unknown Armies and Deadlands (especially Hell on Earth)
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)18:48 No.14583856
    you wouldn't happen to have either a pdf or scan of the SLA Industries book, would you?

    I'm really quite keen on it, but i've never been able to find a copy.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)18:49 No.14583867
    Savage Worlds. It doesn't get enough love.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)18:59 No.14583946
    ORK! The Roleplaying game
    Silly and quirky. Quite fun to play a one-shot beer-and-pretzels game when no one wants to take stuff seriously.

    Gamma World (old school, not the new shite)
    Post-apocalyptic fun. Get your roadsign and your thrascan lid, we are going out hunting.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)19:06 No.14584022

    I run Unknown Armies games pretty much constantly at my university. Every year, a new game starts, bringing in freshers, and every year people leave and take the game with them.

    I am Atlas Games's greatest asset.

    My vote, however, goes to Ars Magica.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)19:15 No.14584130
    Little fears. .. anyone? Anyone?
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)19:18 No.14584155
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    Here's obscure for ya!

    Found this on ebay for dirt cheap. Pretty interesting premise, but I could never get my players to agree to it.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)19:18 No.14584157
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    Earthdawn is a favourite of mine.

    It was my first roleplaying game (even though we played it horribly "wrong" at the time) and even though some of the mechanics are really clunky (initiative, initiative everywhere), the rules and core concepts are really great.

    Basically, it is a mixture between high fantasy, fallout and lovecraft, with a middle-american vibe. The adepts, magic-users specializing in certain fields, explore abandoned/ruined "vaults" (kaers) in search of stories, names and magical treasure.

    And oftentimes names can become just as important as the treasure.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)19:23 No.14584209

    > ORK! The Roleplaying game

    Awwwww yeah!
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)19:47 No.14584454
    CthulhuTech is one fun game (with a lot of warts) but it sure has a lot of haters around here.

    Talislanta is another classic gem that few people have heard of other than its famous ad campaign: "No Elves". Hey, it sold me.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)19:49 No.14584483
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    forgot my picture.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)19:58 No.14584558
    Delta Green.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)20:12 No.14584697

    Countdown is one of the best non-Ars Magica sourcebooks ever. It absolutely made that game for me.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)20:16 No.14584750
    Runequest(Glorantha specifically)
    HERO system
    3 superior systems which /tg/ rarely discusses, because most of /tg/ has never played them.
    >baaawwww addition and subtraction are hard, so is world design
    Good, go play something else, lackwit.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)20:17 No.14584764
    I haven't seen anyone mention it yet, but I'm quite a fan of Puppetland/Powerkill.
    It's a 30-page pdf of a diceless system, where the PCs are all puppets, and everything said during the game is said by your character, no matter what it is. It's basically a horror game inspired by 1700s children's fiction.
    And Powerkill is a small meta-supplement included in the back of the rulebook that's meant to be played in 5-10 minute increments at the beginning of sessions of other games.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)20:32 No.14584903

    How could I have forgotten that book? It's awesome.
    >> personalitysucks 04/13/11(Wed)20:34 No.14584932

    Are you me? Holy crap. I was looking for a HERO post and you nailed all three I would have posted...

    They're even listed in descending order of familiarity for me (I was introduced to HERO like two days after digesting GURPS and I'm still intimidated, lol.) But I really want to run a street-level superhero campaign sometime and HERO feels like the natural choice.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)20:38 No.14584971
    Whatchu talkin' 'bout, boy? Elaborate.
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    That's the kinda Brazil-ish Paranoia setting isn't it?

    Chiming in with: Earthdawn, Deadlands (especially the madmax sequel, Hell on Earth), Kult and Reign of Steel.

    Shit I'm curious about but never tested/ really read through are: Degenesis, the Unisystem ruleset, Cold City (+Hot War), Esoterrorists, Fates Worse Than Death, Obsidian and KidWorld.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)20:58 No.14585176
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    Star Wars d6

    The only real Star Wars RPG made for real men
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)21:04 No.14585234
    Don't Rest Your Head is fucking awesome. A headtrip of a game, for both GM and players.

    Burning Wheel is the best system for the Warhammer world I've ever found. Seriously.

    More of a setting than a system, but Tekumel needs a whole lot more love than it gets now.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)21:05 No.14585246
    >you wouldn't happen to have either a pdf or scan of the SLA Industries book, would you?

    Not that poster, but here you go:

    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)21:06 No.14585250

    The thing I liked the most about it? It's magic system. It had spells lists and many D&D staples like Fireball and the like. But you didn't just hit a certain level and start tossing fireballs around, you had to learn all the other basics of fire magic first, Ignite Fire, Create Fire, Shape Fire before you could learn Fireball.

    To me it just made more sense
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)21:13 No.14585333
    Nobilis. Granted we had a few good threads, but only on account of the horrendous new edition. I was really looking forward to PDF Editor Guy coming back with the /tg/ edition, but I've been checking a bunch, and I haven't seen him.

    Come back, PDF Editor Guy! I can't play this game until I can show my friends the rulebook!
    >> PDF Editor Guy 04/13/11(Wed)21:15 No.14585368
    >Come back, PDF Editor Guy! I can't play this game until I can show my friends the rulebook!

    FFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffffffff just give them this:
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    Ahaha, I remember this! The "real" roleplaying session was a hallucination you acted out on, robbing and murdering, and are now put in an asylum. The GM is the shrink holding sessions with the players and they explain the reasons behind their actions and what they thought at the time.

    Also on the same meta-subject: InSpectres, tongue-in-cheek paranormal investigation RPG (in the league of Orpheus, Dark Conspiracy, Delta Green et al) with a light rule-set. Thing is players can, and are encouraged, to time out the action to act out a post-event "confession room interview" (Big Brother and similar shows) of how they felt/thought and about what at the time, i.e. the current ongoings in the game.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)21:18 No.14585406

    I did. I didn't mean to sound ungrateful either, I know it's got to be a pain in the ass to overhaul a PDF like that. I was just excited to see the end result.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)21:20 No.14585419
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    the trinity universe by white wolf.

    It's an interesting look at all the different ways superhumans would affect the world.
    >> PDF Editor Guy 04/13/11(Wed)21:23 No.14585460
    Have you seen the epub version?


    It's really nice.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)21:36 No.14585625

    >doesn't choose systems based on the size of the corebook

    It's like someone combined a car manual with The Great Gatsby and printed it in the form of a phonebook.

    I want to run a game... not read a novel. This is also why I don't play Exalted. I don't think anyone should be faulted for desiring a little brevity and conciseness in their RPG books.
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    Actually, the best example I can come up with are the PCs being newly freed drones on a Borg planet that wants them them.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)21:50 No.14585792

    *wants them dead.

    How the hell did I make that typo?
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)21:53 No.14585825
    I miss Star Frontiers so much. I also liked TSR's Top Secret S.I. quick, simple, and fun.
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    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)21:59 No.14585887
    I'll second Fantasy Craft. I love the way they fixed everything I hated about 3.5.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:28 No.14586225
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:51 No.14586472
    I would like to third Tri-Stat dX. It's an excellent system, simple but incredibly flexible. I'd also like to mention Anima Prime: Steambots and Megaswords because it is basically Saturday Morning Adventure Cartoon: The Game.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:04 No.14586600
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    Amazing game (FASA master race reporting in). The setting is superbly intertwined with the mechanics and has solid, amazing explanations for so many of the standard tropes of fantasy RPGs in the 80s and beyond it's just stunning.

    The rules were a decade ahead of their time. If you look at the underlying scaling mechanics and balancing points you wonder if the 4e designers took some inspiration.

    The dice mechanic (pool of 2-3 dice that scale in die size) is often criticized as being clunky, but I never understood that- to me it's elegant and interesting. Plus, you actually USE all of your various dice!
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:05 No.14586613
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    You sir, are a Gentleman and Scholar, a true /TG/er.
    Many thanks and praise to you, Good Sir!
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:24 No.14586842
    Sweet, a free internet!
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:24 No.14587513

    What they never tell you is that you actually have to... gulp... non-E, just plain ol' fashioned physically MAIL the coupon to redeem your internet.

    I mean, fuck that noise. I'm not even sure how you're supposed to get the "mailman" to pick up your "letters". Smoke signals?
    I'm not allowed to start fires anymore.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:27 No.14587541

    This. BESMfag here. Ex Machina is about the best pure cyberpunk system out there (CP2020 was too crunchy and complex if you ask me).

    Also Blue Rose. An RPG that's not 70% testosterone or a decadently oversexed WhiteWolf product? Whoa.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:58 No.14587904

    Every game from that era had you roll fresh initiative every turn. I really like that as a mechanic, frankly, but sweet Jane does it bog down combat.

    So, the fix is simple- just roll initiative once, like any game from the 90's on has you do.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)01:47 No.14588411
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    GURPS - wicked flexibility, you can world build like it's lego
    Savage Worlds - faster and simpler than GURPS, but no less flexible, setting genre elements separated (good and bad things depending on need)
    Unknown Armies - Just a great concept and a great game all around.
    nWOD - if played right, if played wrong it's fucking abysmal.
    Fading Suns - not so keen on the mechanics, but i love the setting.
    They have been mentioned in the thread, but this is my 2SP worth on he matter.
    No one mentioned Hârn though...

    And now the over-representation:
    I don't mind DnD, but it does take the lions share here. I like that ShadowRun and BattleTech get some noticeable thread-time, but >>14584157
    is right, EarthDawn is underrated and it would be nice to see more of it.
    And then there is warhammer, in both flavours. Just get over it... /rage
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:25 No.14588807
    Dread. I'm convinced there's no greater system for running horror one-shots.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:32 No.14588876
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    Monsters and Other Childish things

    seriously that book is one of the most underrated RPG's ever. Nobody talks about it but it's possibly one of the funniest RPG books I've seen and it provides so many great roleplaying opportunities.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:36 No.14588911
    SHOCK: Social Science Fiction
    amazing rpg.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:36 No.14588916
    Can it do Earthbound?
    If it can do Earthbouns, >allofmymoney.tiff
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:37 No.14588926
    >no namefagging

    Are you the BESMfag, or just a BESMfag?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:38 No.14588929
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    >Half the posts about GURPS/Hero system in this thread

    Wow. I don't think I ever want to play these games. And it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SYSTEM IN GENERAL.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:38 No.14588934
    RPPR has a ton of AMAZING Monsters Actual Plays.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:39 No.14588939

    just no imagination?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:40 No.14588945


    You'd need to use the "Weird Kid" optional rules from Bigger Bads to handwave the psychic powers. And it started out as a subsection of Wild Talents which is a superhero game so it could work like that.

    Either way go for it.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:42 No.14588955

    no, it's more about how I don't think I'd wanna play with any of these people.

    But who knows!? Maybe I'm totally wrong and the assholes are regulated solely to /tg/. I could buy that.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:42 No.14588956
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    Looks more like his issue is amount of sophistic dickery that revolves around the playerbase.

    My issue is the rules. For me its that I have no tolerance for the binders full of paperwork required to run a pickup game.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:44 No.14588976
    Throw in another for Fight!
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:44 No.14588978
    >Maybe I'm totally wrong and the assholes are regulated solely to /tg/.

    it's more likely than you think.

    anonymity + audience = internet douchebag
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:49 No.14589008
    I've found people who insist on GURPS or HERO offline are pretty big dicks too. Not people where its an option, but people where its the only option they'll tolerate.

    The only people that are more annoying are the people who insist only on some iteration of D&D or their "Homebrew".

    Beyond GURPS, HERO, D&D and Homebrew you don't really find people annoyingly adamant about only playing one system.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:50 No.14589016
    Oh, so you're illiterate.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:52 No.14589031

    i think you just proved his point.
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)02:53 No.14589045
    rolled 19 = 19

    >D20 Modern

    it's not D&D with guns. It's D&D with the bows and and arrows painted to look like guns.

    Horrible, Horrible system.

    I have a lot of contempt for the GURPSfags, but I gotta say. They did it right with the magic. If there is ONE THING good in that system, I'd have to say the magic.

    I'd have to say Phoenix Command. noone talks about Phonenix command.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:55 No.14589059
    Aces and eights
    traveller (I dont see any threads about it here)
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)02:56 No.14589074
    rolled 19 = 19

    >Beyond GURPS, HERO, D&D and Homebrew you don't really find people annoyingly adamant about only playing one system.

    Anyone insistant on playing ONE SYSTEM AND ONE SYSTEM ONLY, usually are a bunch of assholes.

    This applies for anything, mind you. Hell, look at the guy who will ONLY PLAY XBAWKS360, cause PS3 HAS NO GAEMS.

    Inflexible people generally are assholes.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:57 No.14589084

    This. I use gurps when i want a level of detail and complexity to add to the game. when that would be a hindrance i use SW. most of the time I just pull out what ever looks fun and is a good fit for my group.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:58 No.14589085
    Those four do seem to be primary candidates for ONE SYSTEM ONLY though.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:58 No.14589092
    was his point "I'm too dumb to play GURPS"? Cause that's all i got from his posts.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:59 No.14589099

    throw white wolf games in the mix too
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:00 No.14589104
    His point, cunt bucket, was that D&D, GURPS, HERO and homebrew faggotry are the games most gamers get that pissy over. Almost like the games are made to breed that type of fanboy.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:00 No.14589106
    i think his point was that people who think the aesthetic tastes and choices of other not being in agreement with yours and indeed being apparently evidence for lack of intelligence is why he doesn't want to go near GURPS. fuck i play GURPS and wouldn't want to play with an ass like you.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:01 No.14589122
    I really like Story and WRM

    Story is a really nice and tight dicepool system which can be used for pretty much everything but as opposed to White Wolf systems, skills actually matter and you cant fly through all skills known to man with a single high stat.

    WRM, or Warrior, Rogue, Mage is a very light system with only 3 stats, each representing everything encompassing that particular steriotype. Attacking, parrying, hit points, lifting etc is determined by rolling Warrior for instance.
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)03:03 No.14589135
    rolled 1 = 1

    > most of the time I just pull out what ever looks fun and is a good fit for my group.

    And that's what you're supposed to do.

    You're alright bro, you're aright.
    Well, with what I've seen, it's easier to pick a better system.

    Lets break down the four you just said.

    A decent system(gods know there are worse out there) for any and everything any player or GM could think of. The absolute BEST for time travel RPGs. Has it's faults, with a shallow dice pool. Jack of all trades, master of none.


    High/Low Fantasy. Depending on the version, highly swayed between fighters or casters. Familiar and iconic. PLENTY of content.


    Only slightly read it, never played it, so I won't pass judgement


    Now, this is a tricky one. It all depends on the quality of the homebrew, the setting, and the players. Can be the best expired ever, or FATAL.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:04 No.14589146
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    The Cortex system, as shown in pic. Note the autographs by Jamie Chambers and Margaret Weis on my copy.

    All Flesh Must Be Eaten was fun too.
    Toon and Paranoia are good nonsensical fun as well.
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)03:06 No.14589160
    rolled 13 = 13

    The reason for that, is beacause these are well known systems. They have the most fanboys, therefore, the greater chance for them to harbor more and more assholes, increases.

    Homebrew is a special one, since it's more of a case by case issue, by a few players.

    Also, no need to be vulgar, sir.
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)03:06 No.14589165
    rolled 18 = 18


    I don't like that game, but I don't have clearance to tell you why.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:07 No.14589172

    failure to enjoy that game is treason
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)03:08 No.14589183
    rolled 10 = 10

    Having the clearance to declare treason, is illegal.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:09 No.14589188
    Cortex is a fucking ace system. I've only used the Smallville iteration, but it's perfect if you want a vaguely episodic feel to game sessions and a system that works for a party that aren't all buddy-buddy all the time.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:10 No.14589197

    knowing my clearance level is treason.
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)03:11 No.14589203
    rolled 13 = 13

    ....well fuck.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:12 No.14589212

    just fuck already!
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)03:15 No.14589227
    rolled 13 = 13

    Good lord man, why the hell are you so angry?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:15 No.14589234

    role playing in a roleplaying thread is also treason. and so is complaining about it.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:16 No.14589237
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    I am currently running a game of nobilis, and my players are still not used to the pointless metaphysics.

    >Their faces
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:19 No.14589273
    Dogs in the Vineyard.
    Weapons of the Gods.

    Haven't played either of these, but among my collection of random pdfs, they appeal to me the most.
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)03:21 No.14589292
    rolled 2 = 2

    Oh! I've got two in my PDF folder

    D20 Naruto(Eh.)

    And the Legend of Zelda RPG.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:24 No.14589319
    Panty Explosion.
    >> Waffle House Millionaire 04/14/11(Thu)03:30 No.14589375

    GURPS (Yes, yes, I know. I like it because you can do anything with it. ANYTHING. If it's not an official product, it's a fan-splat, and it's all balanced. Character creation can go fuck itself though.)

    WoD (outside the 'general' thread we have every two to three weeks and the random storytime thread, I haven't seen hardly anything)
    Shadowrun (everyone loves this game.)
    Deadlands (any of them)
    Anything featuring Cthulhu
    MAID (Shut up.)
    OG (Caveman RPG is better than it sounds)
    Dread (10 points to anyone who knows what that even is)
    Amber diceless....

    Fuck, I could go on for hours. Sometimes I feel like every RPG that printed a single copy ends up in my possession.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:32 No.14589399

    Thanks anon on that delivery. I made the post just before I went to bed and this thread was fairly dead at the time.

    I will add a link to SLA Industries - The Truth

    Serious spoiler warning about this one though. It adds a lot of knowlege about what is actually happening in the SLA universe but it is all fairly useless or dangerous to know for actual play and some people believe it ruined the feel of the game by revealing what it did but I personally like it.
    >> Waffle House Millionaire 04/14/11(Thu)03:39 No.14589459

    >Legend of Zelda RPG

    I'm fairly certain that no good one exists.

    I've been looking for YEARS.
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)03:43 No.14589502
    rolled 16 = 16

    I skimmed it. It's an alright system. They did a good job in their writing of it, though.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:49 No.14589554
    Rolemaster Standard System.

    It was so daunting at first, with the hundreds of tables, the strange (to my mainly old-WoD and ad&d-trained mindset) mechanisms.

    Yet after learning the system, it comes out as streamlined, understandable, so fucking rich, and well my players love it.

    What I found especially interesting was that I introduced 5 people to RPG through rolemaster, and they all understood the system and liked it. It could mean more about me being a decent GM than RM being a decent system, I suppose.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)03:51 No.14589561

    True20 is dead. To be replaced by TrueAGE after the last two books of the Dragon Age TTRPG core rules are finally done with all the Bioware approval processes.
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)03:53 No.14589575
    rolled 6 = 6

    The game is here


    I say they did a good job based on what I've read, so don't take my full word for it.

    And you know of me?
    >> Waffle House Millionaire 04/14/11(Thu)04:01 No.14589632

    Yeah. A friend of mine in a PMC (He said you'd get that) sent me a copy of the 1.0 rules for OPS and Tactics.

    I actually popped into a thread of yours when you were doing the daily 'release week' threads.

    Probably didn't have the name up though.
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)04:09 No.14589700
    rolled 3 = 3


    And I do!

    Here's the release for the final one, so you can have the updated rules, and all that.


    Enjoy man.
    >> Waffle House Millionaire 04/14/11(Thu)04:12 No.14589723

    >3.5 D&D

    Yep, gonna have to keep looking.
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)04:14 No.14589733
    rolled 1 = 1


    Lol. Well, they did a good job on the content. I haven't actually sat down and read over the rules.
    >> Waffle House Millionaire 04/14/11(Thu)04:26 No.14589817

    In this case the problem is the base for the rules.

    The content may be good, but basing it on a variant of the d20 system is fundamentally flawed for various reasons I don't want to detail here (mainly because of post spam).

    Let's just say that I wouldn't use d20 for Zelda for the same reason I wouldn't use, say, 2020 to run a dungeon crawl. Or GURPS for a silly light-hearted game. Or Toon for a murder mystery.

    Some systems just don't work for certain concepts.
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)04:29 No.14589832

    Because it wouldn't fit. I can understand that.

    I haven't read it, but I do hope it's just not a complete gloss over replacing the races, and adding something minorly new, is it?
    >> Waffle House Millionaire 04/14/11(Thu)04:53 No.14589970

    Haven't actually read it yet.

    If it's got anything decent in it I'll take note and steal it for when I finally snap and make my own Zelda Homebrew.

    That said, this is a rather old dead project: 2004 was the last time anyone heard a peep out of these guys.
    >> Sweet Soul Bro !!H5XdMKmBv5G 04/14/11(Thu)05:01 No.14590008
    That's the way it usually goes. People get busy, forget about projects.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)05:07 No.14590039
    I second the person who said MAID.
    I fucking love that system.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)05:38 No.14590275
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    Haven't really read through it but the concept is fantastic, as are the variuos sources of inspiration. Basically "dark backstabby Coen brothers movie - the rpg": Fargo, Blood Simple, Burn After Reading etc.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)05:56 No.14590402
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    This poast must get the recognition it rightfully deserves.
    >> GL Pretentious Hipster !!NU1qDw5ZF2C 04/14/11(Thu)05:58 No.14590416
    Dragonlance 5th Age Card System.

    It was like nothing else I've ever played
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)06:00 No.14590433
    rolled 14, 3 = 17

    I've played this a bunch of times. It's really more by way of Ritchie then the Coens when we do it, but if you have a group of people in the right mindset, it's a fucking blast.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)06:11 No.14590504

    Just one of the many.


    I'll second this. I'm actually considering porting the old Stargate SG1 RPG books to it for a campaign at some point. Probably with a healthy helping of influence from EP's Gatecrashers, and an attempt to tone down the camp.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)06:14 No.14590513
    >DoD, Mutant, Götterdämmerung, Kult..
    ..or just even BRP in general.

    >White Wolf Trinity/Abberant/Adventure! Universe
    Awesome stuff that never got what it deserved from the RPG community.

    >SLA Industries
    Not a fan of the system but man I love the setting and the whole "truth" aspect (though I've done my own World of Progress that's like an alternative prequel to the SLA/900 setting).

    PS. No one happen to have a PDF of the Hunter Sheets Issue One book do they?

    >Tribe 8
    Lovely setting and idea, the system scales up quite well, down not so much.

    >Ars Magica
    FFS Just play it! It's freaking awesome (except for the Vim math which should just be ignored, wing it).

    >Countless French, German & Scandinavian RPGs..
    Well, most are based on BRP (even though I wish White Wolf would have translate dthe entire Engle and with out throwing in a fucking d20 system, gawd damn it).
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)06:28 No.14590588
    >The Truth
    Cubicle 7 have said that they don't follow the old Writers' Bible any more though. Man it was fun crawling through the web looking for the truth in the early days, also happy that my ol' players never did or have (not that it matters now that we don't run the standard SLA setting, but it might still spoil it for players by changing their state of mind about the game, to early, and how the think about material presented to them in-game).
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)06:31 No.14590597
    Not to derail the thread, but maybe this will get some people's opinions and crop up a few new systems?

    I'm working on a futuristic campaign that I'd like to also be fairly gritty. Make good use of cover, that sort of thing. Guns should be dangerous unless you're in serious armor, but the armor should have drawbacks as well.

    Any thoughts? I've been thinking of gutting alot of Pathfinder, since that's what we're familiar with, but that doesn't appeal to me as much. Might as well use it as is, to a point.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)06:33 No.14590602
    use Basic Role-Playing as a base to work from (or anything that don't have a level/class progression). you're welcome.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)06:35 No.14590608

    Cortex possibly? (the Serenity system; depends how futuristic you're going for, though)
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)06:37 No.14590621

    Cybernetics, some future-tech, but most of it is just more advanced versions of what we use today. The most advanced stuff is probably power suits and the FTL system. Think Mass Effect, though that's not what the game is about or the setting.

    I'll check it out.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)06:44 No.14590658
    Call of Cthulhu, the greatest RPG ever put to print.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)07:13 No.14590801

    Eclipse Phase could work but it would depend on how futuristic you are after. Runs on a pretty simple percentile system but character creation can get a bit fiddly.


    Link for core book, free and creative commonalistic, if interested
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)07:19 No.14590834
    >a system that's very chance based.
    No, the system isn't "very chance based". Any proper system is chance based. FATALTech is strictly bad because the system is badly skewered. You're twice as likely to critical fail at a task at skill level 2 than compared to skill level 1. That shit is just retarded, I just got worse at doing things when I was supposed to get better? The people who made this system don't know fucking shit about probability.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)07:34 No.14590901
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    The Farm.

    You're an unwilling prisoner, reduced to a number and herded around for six weeks until your number's up and you get eaten by the people who run the place. It's like a concentration camp run by Hannibal Lecter with the approval of the government. Last time it was posted it got over 900 troll responses insisting that everyone in the thread was a vorefag.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)08:22 No.14591233
    I'm taking alot of inspiration from Eclipse Phase, but it's a bit too futuristic. Trying to keep it very human, focusing on some of the moral issues of 'how much modification is too much', the corporate world after Earth, and the potential threat of extra-solar threats.

    Serenity's system seems pretty decent. Definite change from our usual games, which isn't a bad thing at all
    >> Balthazarr !!hQW2Rt/THGB 04/14/11(Thu)08:41 No.14591341
    Fuck yeah! GURPS represent bitches!
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)11:16 No.14592241
    Try to have a look at spacemaster (rolemaster in space fuck yeah !). Deadly, rules for cover, rules for cover fire, suppression fire, grenades, spaceships, vacuum critical table, etc etc
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)11:21 No.14592269
    Waitwaitwaitwaitwait... are people really arguing over whether FATAL is good? Seriously?

    Are you all this easy to troll?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)12:25 No.14592663

    Learn to read, buddy, ain't no one here arguing 'bout that pile of shit.
    More relevant to the thread: Fantasy Craft rocks. Read the main book yesterday and felt like a goddamn robot unicorn hopping in the sky.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)12:34 No.14592739
    Earthdawn, gammaworld
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)17:46 No.14595135
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)19:36 No.14596173
    Does anyone have an OG PDF?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)20:13 No.14596544


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