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    23 KB Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:23 No.14211628  
    Space Marines, do you think a Blank (Psychic Null) can become a Space Marine? Since Psykers can join, why can't Blanks right? Sure they'd be isolated from their brothers socially, but if Librarians can increase their Psychic power, then if Blanks are allowed to become SM it would be reason to be that they increase their blankness.

    I'm talking about Culexus Assassin level minus the Animus Speculum. I was wondering this because I'd like to build an entire chapter out of Blanks. Perhaps to directly combat the Tyranids, as such they kinda act as a counter Shadow of the Warp.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:25 No.14211643
    they split up the Sisters of Silence because it was way too fucking inefficient, even for the Imperium, to put all their unbelievably useful alpha-psyker-slaying badasses in one unit. They're just too precious of a resource to waste on making into space marines.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:26 No.14211650
    I cant think of a reason why they wouldn't be able to. but in a normal marine chapter it wouldn't turn out so great as they would be alienated by their brothers
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:26 No.14211658
    Blanks are exceptonally rare, but would be identified immediately by the Chapter's Librarians (who check the mental purity of recruits)

    Although an -entire chapter- of blanks is a stretch, I could see there being some sort of 'anti-librarian' corps in a chapter, goatees and all

    chances are they'd be heavily under the control of the inquisition for use against renegade librarians (like the exorcists)
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:27 No.14211659
    I don't see why not. I'm actually kind of surprised it hasn't happened before

    But how would the chapter recruit? Blanks are rare.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:28 No.14211675


    The problem is that blanks are so useful, you can't afford to accidentally kill some via the Space Marinification process.

    Additionally, having them attack one place as a squad is pretty stupid, considering that just one of them could do crazy damage as an Assassin or whatever.
    >> Deathleaper's Fangirl !!YD/t8+iuFvd 03/11/11(Fri)21:29 No.14211690
    I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be possible to turn a Blank into a Space Marine in terms of the actual surgery, training, etc. It would, however, be almost impossible to actually create an entire chapter of them due to the rarity of Blanks, the fact most are snapped up by the Inquisition or Culexus Temple, and that many aspiring Space Marines don't survive the conversion process. A very, very well-funded Inquisitor Lord might be able to pull enough strings to assemble a squad of Blank Space Marines, but it would take a long time and casualties would be absurdly hard to replace.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:30 No.14211693
    Mobil chapter like the Blood Ravens and Soul Drinks. Basically live out of ships and just fine people when they find them. Thinking about it now they would be a very small chapter because deaths would be harder to fill.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:32 No.14211716
    Call the squad Void Marines

    captcha: Chapter Arkson... maybe that
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:35 No.14211741
    Well obviously they wouldn't be at one home world, so they have to be ship based. Perhaps since Blanks ARE so rare, they keep many of them in cryo. They'd be excellent daemon and Tyranid hunters, seeing how you'd think massive amount of blanks would block the Hive Mind.

    Or instead of recruiting blanks their geneseed is mutated to the point where they're all blanks. So they can recruit from normal worlds, but don't have any Librarians. Instead they have Anti-Librarian squad, where a blank that survived the trails and surgery becomes that much stronger.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:38 No.14211770
    doesn't work that way. You can't "become" a blank, you have to be born without a soul

    for lack of a better term.

    The only feasible way I could see it happening is an inquisitor planting recruits for the chapter, though it would undoubtedly be a renegade inquisitor, as blanks are an extremely valuable resource to the inquisition

    that, and the implication of planting recruits reminds me of the Alpha legion a little -too- much
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:40 No.14211775
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    >I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be possible to turn a Blank into a Space Marine in terms of the actual surgery, training, etc.
    I can see one glaring, vast, huge, obvious reason- to become a Marine you have to have a significant degree of genetic compatibility with the Primarch whose gene-seed you are accepting, or you reject all the organs and die horribly.
    None of the Primarchs were nulls, and nullity is a pretty big deal.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:42 No.14211791
    >Although an -entire chapter- of blanks is a stretch, I could see there being some sort of 'anti-librarian' corps in a chapter, goatees and all

    Totally read this as "goatses and all"
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:48 No.14211840
    Chapter Arkson sounds pretty badass, actually. Their Chapter Master would have to be
    >Ueslates Ornaghi
    >> Emperor's Champion !!dTSxH/3+AFl 03/11/11(Fri)21:52 No.14211878

    >>read as space marination
    >imagine recruits being marinated and then popping out of bags as full blown marines.
    >my brain is full of fuck
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)21:57 No.14211923
    What about the two missing Primarchs? Perhaps the reason they were never found was because they were blanks. So the Emperor never was able to locate them, and their legions were "erased". However it would be a huge waste of resources to throw them away. So perhaps they were mixed in with other Legions.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:02 No.14211974
    Go Go captacha created marine chapters
    and chapter master is Creli
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:04 No.14211995
    No. The missing primarchs were both females. The Emperor was a super male in every way, including libido. Only a primarch could actually survive fucking him, so he made a couple. One turned out supernaturally beautiful (like a female Fulgrim), while the other was short and stocky (Emps had a thing for midgets).

    Like all the other Primarchs, when they were lost, the Emperor made legions using the geneseed. However, as time went on, the legion of the Beautiful primarch became much like the Word Bearers, in holding the Emperor like a God, but lost their strength and resilience and so were not as dangerous. They eventually lost their status as "Female Marines" do to the deterioration of their geneseed supply, but continued to recruit into their ranks. The other legion was viewed as mutants, due to their short stature. As such, they were excommunicated and exterminated, then expunged from the records.

    This is why the Battle Sisters get power armor and there are no more squa-
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:11 No.14212046
    Sounds bad. I still think that the two missing primarchs were blanks.

    So... we got Chapter Master Ueslates Ornaghi of the Adeptus Astartes chapter Arkson. What culture should they be based off of? I'd want to say America, as America doesn't really have a Space Marine chapter. You got Space Romans, Space Vikings...etc. No Space Americans.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:13 No.14212065
    >Blanks are incredibly rare
    >10% of primarchs were blanks

    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:13 No.14212066
    I dont think American would work to well unless they are native americans
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:14 No.14212077
    maybe it was just one of them that was a blank and the other one was never found or died in child hood
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:15 No.14212086

    >American Marines
    >Mentally blank

    Oh god, I lol'd
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:17 No.14212105
    You know if you think about it, they've got the Sisters of Silence taking up a shitton of female Blanks, and the Culexuses don't discriminate by gender, so there's a whole pool of male Blanks that the Imperium isn't using.

    Might as well make Marines out of them.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:17 No.14212107

    >statistics, how do they work
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:20 No.14212138
    You think 10% is incredibly rare? 10% of humans are left-handed. Now imagine if every south-paw you ever met didn't have a soul.

    Then they'd be left-handed AND red-headed. But either way, that's a lot of people without a soul.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:27 No.14212216
    In The First Heretic (written by a fa/tg/uy I might add) Lorgar is talking to Magnus, and they talk about the missing primarchs a bit. Lorgar is afraid he's going to become the third, and they say that the two were deliberately erased and that everyone involved took oaths never to speak of them again.

    Oh and their legions weren't destroyed, while the primarchs went away, Roboute Guilliman absorbed the actual marines into the Ultramarines. That's one of the main reasons why the Smurfs were so much bigger than all the other legions.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:29 No.14212233
    oh, so now lefties have souls too?

    who gets them next, gingers? the japanese?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:30 No.14212237
    Canonically, around one in a billion humans are blanks. One in a million are psykers.

    So by those stats, there are seven blanks on Earth right now.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:32 No.14212257

    Following that logic, the imperium is fuckhuge. There's surely at least 1000 of them throughout the galaxy.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:35 No.14212281
    Yeah, now good luck finding them. Keep in mind here, it's not like a psyker where you can identify them by "guy who shoots lightning from his eyes". All a blank is from a casual glance is a creepy guy who is socially retarded. Good luck searching through half the underhive of an entire planet through every social reject to find the three or four guys who're blanks and not just aspie fucks.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:36 No.14212295
    use actual psykers to find them
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:38 No.14212311

    How? They have no warp presence. They're blanks. They're called blanks for a reason.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:38 No.14212312
    don't forget the sisters of silence have faded to the background in Imperial history for thousands of years, so they might not be so gender specific now, if they still exist at all...
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:38 No.14212314
    Well then it would be perfect for blank chapter. As an Ultramarine Chapter successor chapter, they were originally from one of the Unknown Primarchs. It basically creates a Psychic Blankness artificially.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:39 No.14212327
    they would still make a psyker have the willies also walking down the street and one person isnt there to the psyker. Found one
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:40 No.14212330
    If you can spare a few sanctioned psykers, it might be possible. They can easily pick the blanks out of a crowd.

    I can see the occasional rare marine being a Blank, possibly. But an entire chapter? I doubt it.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:40 No.14212337
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    What about breading and cloning the existing blanks and pariahs? Would this produce more blanks?

    If that was the case you could then have a blank space marine chapter, or even a blank guard chapter...
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:40 No.14212340
    "That thing you don't see in the Warp? That's Chuck Norr- er, a Blank."
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:41 No.14212343
    If 40k had /r9k/ and 4chan, everyone would say they think they are blanks, instead of asspie faggots.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:41 No.14212344

    Ok, so using that logic, I want you to travel the ENTIRE PLANET, and find the possible single motherfucker that gives you the creeps, and may be a blank.

    Aaaaaaaand, go.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:42 No.14212347
    Maybe not ALL blanks, but Blood Magpies have enough librarians to fill a company, so it's conceivable a chapter could have a lot of blanks (though blanks ARE much rarer)
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:42 No.14212349
    The other two Primarchs weren't blanks that we know of. They were destroyed for something that they did, not because of something that they were.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:43 No.14212359
    Anyone have some online fluff I could read about blanks?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:43 No.14212360
    >implying the Magpies didn't steal their psykers
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:43 No.14212362
    >Guard chapter
    >Guard chapter
    >Guard chapter

    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.... Actually the sad thing is, I bet the Ultramar PDF and guard forces are actually called these.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:44 No.14212366
    Well if the gene seed creates an artificial blankness that could help the chapter.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:45 No.14212380
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:45 No.14212382
    now that is thinking logically, and we all know the Imperium does not do logic...
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:46 No.14212386
    They still exist, it's just that all they do now-a-days is man the Black Ships. They're not an active military force anymore.

    They made a big deal that only a blank can crew a Black Ship, anyone with a warp presence would be driven insane in minutes. The navigator and astropath have to hide behind shields on top of shields, and even then they still don't last long.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:47 No.14212406
    Apex Twins did all right and annihilated the entire crew of their Black Ship (despite the crew being Blanks), but then, they're a pair of insanely powerful Alpha-Plus psykers, so they have an excuse.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:49 No.14212420

    Timing out for me
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:50 No.14212430
    sites down just checked it
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:51 No.14212431
    Lexicanum is down, a couple days ago they moved their servers so I'm guessing it's a complication of that.
    >> Johnny Ridden !tyRw75WsKs 03/11/11(Fri)22:53 No.14212451
    hhmm this make me wonder if the Black Templar's might have some blanks.

    Large fleet based chapter that hates psykers....

    Though OP I gotta say I am liking the idea of a blank marine, what if the Deathwatch had a squad of blanks or some such?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:56 No.14212481

    Try the wayback machine and see what it turns up
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)22:57 No.14212488
    Things to ponder about primarchs being blanks:

    1.Blanks are caused by the Pariah gene, which was put into humanity by the Necrons as a way to someday destroy the Warp

    2. From "The First Heretic", it seems likely that the Primarchs were grown in the Warp (in Gellar Fields) with the "blessing" and support of the Chaos Gods.

    3. There is no way the Chaos Gods would have created Blanks, but they Emperor may have been able to

    4. In "A Thousand Sons", Leman Russ is effictively impervious to Magnus' psychic powers, and it is claimed this is due to him being a Primarch

    5. When Ferrus Mannus is killed in "Fulgrim", a visible burst of Warp energy is released, implying some measure of the Warp is contained within the Primarchs, which would be hard to imagine with a Blank

    Thus, it does seem possible that the missing Primarchs were Blanks
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)23:15 No.14212672
    So I like the idea of them breeding the Nulls. Going to create it through the new chapter making rules in Death Watch.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)23:31 No.14212789
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    Alpha Legion planting seeds to eventually form an entire chapter of Blanks to better fight Chaos?

    I can actually see that happening, after reading Legion. Then it turns out Tzeentch was fucking with the the whole time and that many blanks in one place makes something hilarious happen.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)23:33 No.14212804
    >4. In "A Thousand Sons", Leman Russ is effictively impervious to Magnus' psychic powers, and it is claimed this is due to him being a Primarch
    Sorry, but in Prosporo Burns Casper Hawser can speak Fenrisian through psychic shenanigans, and he can do so unimpeded right next to Russ. He even at one point encounters the Sisters of Silence and loses his ability, so there is absolutely no way Russ is a blank.

    Magnus's inability to hurt him was probably a result of Russ being absurdly tough and Tzeentch fucking with him at the time.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)23:35 No.14212813
    Reading Legion made me want to make a pre-heresy Alpha Legion army with a mix of all imperial forces
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)23:36 No.14212827
    >2. From "The First Heretic", it seems likely that the Primarchs were grown in the Warp (in Gellar Fields) with the "blessing" and support of the Chaos Gods.
    >Implying that is canon rather than some daemon making shit up.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)23:38 No.14212844

    Ditto. It also made me want to convert up a squad of Lucifer Blacks to use as veterans or something. NEED MORE SHAKOS.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)23:43 No.14212892
    i was thinking make a SM hq choice have rules similar to Creed and play a force of mixed units
    >> Anonymous 03/11/11(Fri)23:55 No.14212967
    There's more about Lucifer Blacks in the Blood Games short story from Tales of Heresy.

    Those are some crazy motherfuckers. The best way I can think of to stat them on the tabletop would be as stormtroopers, but a LB would be a fantastic character to play in Dark Heresy. Probably a modification of an Arbitrator.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)00:03 No.14213015

    Yeah, I'll probably end up running them as ST's. Thinking I'll convert some Vostroyans, since that seems to be the closest to the books description of their outfits.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)00:13 No.14213104
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    >my face when somebody saved my Deaths Deaths marine.

    also, my home-fries Spess Mahreen chapter has a company where all of the Techmarines and Deathwatch Veterans hang out and do secretive and potentially Tech-Heresy things. I've been brewing up a 'dex for them for funsies, and using a similar concept to Grey Knights except with Technology instead of being psykers - they're overpowered, but expensive in points cost. One crazy-ass thing that would fit in there would be at least one Special Character who's a blank/null. Or a less high-powered squad of Pariah ripoffs who would be a 0-1 choice, and could only be up to 5 dudes in the squad.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)00:14 No.14213121
    I saw them as FBI or Secret Service agents. Vostroyans might work, but you'll have to get rid of the hats. If you can somehow get sunglasses for them that would be fantastic.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)00:23 No.14213190

    I could've sworn they were described as wearing shakos, though I suppose I could be thinking of the other IG dudes uniforms...
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)00:23 No.14213193
    >Chapter of Null Marines with a Null Primarch
    /tg/, we already had this. Rachnus Rageous and the Desert Fangs?
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)00:31 No.14213247
    Well maybe they were and maybe they weren't, I'm not opening the book to check, but you can't deny that a Secret Service esq bodyguard would look absolutely ridiculous in one of those hats.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)01:25 No.14213633
    Ok please excuse my horrible writing.

    The chapter was started by an Brother Captain Ueslates Ornaghi from the Ultramarines during an unknown period of time. Having kept his secret from his fellow Ultramarines (how he managed to fool the Librarians is unknown), he was a blank. Although how he more than made up for his apparent lack of politicking by being an efficient and feared warrior.

    His warrior skills were put to the ultimate test when he destroyed a Daemon Prince of Slaanesh. His blankness and his skills as Brother Captain made it a one sided fight so goes the legend. His reward was a successor chapter of his own, but had to sever all ties to his beloved chapter due to his lies.

    He forged his chapter with less than full strength, and barely even made it as a chapter with only 100 Space Marines. Abandoning the Codex in favor of tactics used for smaller numbers the new Space Marine chapter Akham Brothers were officially formed.

    Quickly finding that his geneseed he was given never took to any non-blank the Chapter Master decided to forgo the usual recruiting world and recruit all over the Imperium. In recent years the chapter has began to breed the blanks as serfs and potential brothers.

    Due to their uniqueness they're unable to have Psykers. Their loneliness tends to manifest in heat of battle when they use Terror tactics to win. The foremost expert on the Tyranid aliens they've learned to dealt with them by targeting the synapse creatures. They're also superb chaos hunter, as the sorcerers of the enemy can't detect their presence.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)01:36 No.14213690
    They're World Eaters

    the collar doesn't do actually anything, it was them all along

    Kharn is a blank.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)01:44 No.14213744
    cool now we have a back story lets get some colors up in this bitch
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)02:28 No.14214017
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    Ok. Here's the colors.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)02:34 No.14214049
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    What are you,
    12 years old?

    That is an eye bleedingly disgusting colour scheme.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)02:35 No.14214069
    yeah no thats horrible
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)02:45 No.14214141
    Drunk and colorblind.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)02:51 No.14214195
    no, its seriously a bad color scheme, and whats worse is that you can't even see half of it, as its being obscured by the tabard.

    and what is the significance of the color choice? Are they the Red Hands? the Dress Wearing Clowns? Space Marine heraldry has a reason. Blood angels and their successors always go with red, because Sanguinius was too busy being pretty to be interesting. Dark Angels paint their shit 3 different colors based on company. Space wolves have pack markings. Why are these guys arbitrarily fruit cakes in red dresses?

    Plus, not only is it not compositionally sound, but it would also be a hellish nightmare to paint.

    you thought doing the black on flesh tearers or the red hands on crimson fists was bad? imagine that bullshit on both hands and feet and the backpack vents of every motherfucker in the army. this isn't a color scheme, its a recipe for insanity.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)02:51 No.14214196
    maybe next time try using colors you can see
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)03:40 No.14214543
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    Ok. Let's see about this.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)03:45 No.14214578
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    >Orange primary
    >Black details
    >Blue Trim


    Jesus. Okay. You know what? I'm posting a motherfucking color wheel, I don't care if you're colorblind.




    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)03:49 No.14214599
    Also, orange is a shitty primary color, generally speaking.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)03:51 No.14214613
    I thought it looked pretty good.
    A bit Halloween, but good.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)03:52 No.14214615

    Not to be a dick but, that is actually a color scheme I would expect a color blind person to come up with. I know there are different versions of color blindness and I have a friend who see's green as purple and can't differentiate colors like green and yellow.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)03:53 No.14214622
    I'm okay with the orange and black but the blue looks silly, make it white or also orange.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)03:56 No.14214641
    Also I'd say personally if you go orange and black, don't make the Aquilla crest in the center black. Paint that something metallic, those are supposed to be metallic crests on the armor.

    And it is a little halloween.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)03:57 No.14214648
    What are you raging over, there's only a tiny bit of blue.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)03:58 No.14214655
    >please excuse my horrible writing?

    Why? Horrible writing fits in fine in 40k.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)04:12 No.14214747
    I just realised why I never collected space marines. For one, the heraldry thing is a bitch, so I'd have to just say my guys are from one of the lost chapters or something gay like that. Secondarily, its really hard to make space marines look good and not bland or gaudy.

    For example...
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    forgot picture, derp.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)04:26 No.14214823
    rolled 96 = 96

    Chaos is awesome in part because horribly garish colorschemes are a good thing.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)07:58 No.14215893
    You're forgetting something. Necrons CAN detect blanks, and any they find will be converted into a Pariah.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)08:11 No.14215931
    they wouldn't be more useful at fighting Nids as any other chapters. Blanks don't have an effect on nids.
    Also using blanks to counter the shadow in the warp is like trying too stop a house fire buy shooting it with plasma guns.

    They'd be a great poor mans Grey knights or Withhunters force though.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)12:35 No.14217174
    Well they rely on the Hivemind which is a giant psychic presence. So I figure that they'd be adapt at hunting Tyranids for the simple reason they're all blanks. It would at least create enough interfere when the Null Marines gather that it would affect the Hive Mind or at least the recipients of the Hive Mind. As theorized in one the Esienhorn books that Blanks tend to affect the brain's electrical currents, which causes forgetfulness and dislike towards the Blank.

    Now that I've read up on 'Nids a bit more it would seem they're afraid of Necrons. Perhaps it has to do with the fact they're all psychically neutral or the Pariahs that are psychically negative.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)12:52 No.14217325
    The Blue U is a place holder. It reminds me that A.) it clashes so find a new symbol, B.) Find something that'd fit the motif.

    For the color scheme, I figured they're suppose to be using terror tactics. Like going after the command posts, orbital bombardment, weapons that leave behind gruesome sights. So the Halloween (my favorite holiday) coloring scheme is to help identify that they don't (and can't afford) to use normal Codex maneuvers.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)15:23 No.14218470
    What symbol should the herald be? I was thinking an pumpkin, would that be too cliched?
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)15:28 No.14218518
    Depending on how canon Nemesis was, cloning Pariahs was somethin that Clade Culexus did.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)16:14 No.14218853
    Ok apparently there's two types of "Untouchables" or is it only one type? According to Lexicanum there's Pariahs which can be caused by genetic mutation, and there's Blanks. However the two seem to be the same thing yet different somehow.

    If this is true then it would be entirely possible to create Pariah space marines. It states the same genes that cause Psyker mutation could be turned to make Pariahs. So if say Blood Ravens which somehow turn up more Psykers than normal, which probably has something to do with the gene seed. So instead of an entire chapter of Pariahs they could form a separate company. Like the Librarians in Blood Ravens.

    With that in mind, I was thinking of not making them ship base. However a planet which celebrates Halloween 24/7.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)21:18 No.14221314
    Ok here's what I was thinking.

    Ueslates Ornaghi was a Brother Captain amongst the Emperor's finest Space Marines, The Ultramarines. Granted a successor chapter at an unknown time, but legends state he single handily slew a Daemon Prince. He was given a planet amongst the outlaying reaches of the Ultamar Systems. Here the world was primitive and strange. It was classified as an Agriworld but eventually shifts into a Death World.

    The only stable crop grown is the Pumpkin. Due to it's orbit and multiple moons, it rarely experiences true night for long periods of time. However once every 10 years for a period of 31 Terran Months the moons blot out the sun.

    At night ravenous hordes of creatures that come out and feast on the animals and people. So the feral people of the land developed a superstition that wearing costumes made out of the hides of the creatures in a mockery of the creatures and other creatures like them that come out in the "All Hallow's Night" will protect them.

    The fortress monastery is set up in the highest mountain ridge. Once every "All Hallow's Night" is when the Terror Marines recruit. The selection is pretty simple, the aspirants must reach to the Fortress Monastery with a pumpkin in hand by any means necessary. Once they reach the monastery they're forced to fight and kill one another till the Adeptus Astartes commands no more.

    After the genetic testing and what not is done, they're implanted with the geneseed. Those whom have the psyker gene but isn't activated are turned into Pariahs (Untouchables).

    The Pariah Marines are organized into their own company and are loaned to other other companies and squads as needed deemed by Chapter Master. Utilizing Terror tactics of the natives instead of Codex attack and defenses they've ostracized themselves from their brethren Ultramarines. However gained the respect of the Ravenguard.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)21:25 No.14221375
    Remember that Blanks and Pariahs are different. I'm not sure what's rarer, but Jurgen is a Blank. Skeevy and unimaginative, with poor personal habits, and he just negates warp-based powers within a certain radius.

    Pariahs are actually soulless, evoke terror or disgust from those that encounter them, and can weaponize their aura into an attack.
    >> Anonymous 03/12/11(Sat)23:09 No.14222411
    What's the difference then?
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    >> Anonymous 03/13/11(Sun)01:36 No.14224103
    How much of Jurgen's social retardation is from blank-dom and how much is because he didn't get to socialize properly because people feel icky about blanks?
    >> Anonymous 03/13/11(Sun)01:40 No.14224153
    What came first, the chicken or the egg?

    It's hard to say, really.
    >> Anonymous 03/13/11(Sun)07:34 No.14226167
    Nnno. It's not hard to say if you believe in evolution through mutation.
    The egg came first, the embryo mutated and hatched out. This was the first chicken.
    Finding that second chicken was its biggest challenge ...

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