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    523 KB Lunar Reckoning 69 Anonymous 03/06/11(Sun)21:17 No.14154062  
    Hey, /tg/, I got some homebrew for you...

    If you missed it before (and pretty much everyone did), Lunar Reckoning 69 is a mecha roleplaying game heavily inspired by Armored Core and Madox 01, along with a bit of old sci-fi novel flavor and a system that uses Initiative as a resource. It was created due to my dissatisfaction with systems such as Mekton, combined with a loss of the work I did for BESM.

    This release is the second public Beta, which comes along with the release of a discussion board for the game, the address for which is in the archive. It includes new stats, stories, and balance tweaks from the last time.

    Have fun with it!
    >> Shy Guardsman 03/06/11(Sun)21:54 No.14154546
    >> Anonymous 03/06/11(Sun)22:06 No.14154717
    I'm told Mediafire isn't working for whatever reason, so try this:
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    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)03:49 No.14158128
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    Late-night bumps, woo~
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    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)18:22 No.14164676
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    For the sake of the bump, have some original content.
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)18:30 No.14164743
    could ya do a re-play that has fluff+rules decribed
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)18:42 No.14164869
    Well, I can do a crunch post right now, and a fluff post afterward.

    The main system mechanic is based on opposed 3d6 attack and evasion rolls, and damage is based on the margin of success (or failure). Some weapons, like machineguns, have a very wide range, and others, like a sniper rifle, have a very narrow one.

    Initiative is a resource. Initiative values are always increasing, redetermining the battle order. A high Initiative is required for some attacks, useful for others. Melee attacks consume Initiative. A high Initiative also protects you from guided missiles. Speed is life!

    Character building is a sort of point buy/part selection hybrid. You select your parts, gain special traits and skills that can be used during battle, as well as points to increase stats. Advancement is through a mechanic called 'Legend Dice' and through cash payments during mercenary missions.
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)18:57 No.14165021
    As for the fluff...it is year 69 of the Lunar Reckoning, as many years after a war that killed billions. Today, humanity on Earth lives in self-sufficient Megacities. Though peace reigns, there is always instability...

    And always room for mercenaries. You are a Magus, an elite pilot who uses a customized Armored Personnel Unit, with the power to turn the tide of battle. Who do you fight for? What kind of world are you trying to create? And who do you oppose?

    Load your weapons, tweak your APU, and prepare for battle! Create the future!
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)19:03 No.14165102
    >>14164869Initiative is a resource. Initiative values are always increasing, redetermining the battle order. A high Initiative is required for some attacks, useful for others. Melee attacks consume Initiative. A high Initiative also protects you from guided missiles. Speed is life!

    in a single sentence you made something way better than white wolf's exalted
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)19:12 No.14165208
    Huh? How'd I do that? I'm not familiar with Exalted.
    >> 01011001 !!q8KxB04TJME 03/07/11(Mon)19:18 No.14165287

    Part calculator in Excel.
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)21:53 No.14167054
    Very pleasantly surprised so far. Going to be a while reading through all of it.
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)22:05 No.14167178
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    What anon is trying to say is that though Exalted is overall pretty awesome, a lot of the combat mechanics are pretty fucking frightening and difficult to deal with.
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)22:11 No.14167209
    Yeah, but that can be worked out. The biggest issues I've found with the system is
    1) Armor is next to worthless due to ping-spam and piercing. Adjust these with house-rules, and armor becomes worth taking. Best I've found is to change Piercing to reduce Soak by user's Strength value (some ranged or spells may need a bit of tweaking, but this isn't common). And to divide hardness ratings by 3, rounding up, and reduce Ping damage by this modified hardness value (to a minimum of 1 die).

    And 2), the rush for Perfect Defense, and nothing but. Let's face it, there gets to be a point where the only thing anyone uses is Perfect Defenses until the opponent is out of Motes... then it's killing-blow. This one's trickier to house-rule. But I found that fixing armor, tends to lessen the amount of Perfect Defense spam you see.
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)22:28 No.14167385
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    >the Data Angels

    ... I almost bashed my head through the monitor in rage, but finally calmed down thanks to the lack of That Ridiculous Bitch.

    Still, lookin' good.
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)23:12 No.14167765
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    Nice job. Have a landmate.
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)23:14 No.14167782
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    ... say, do these fit the visual imagery at all?
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)23:20 No.14167828
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    A little. It's more along the lines of an Armored Core/VOTOMS cross, although Madox 01 is the closest thing I've discovered to it.

    Front Mission is also kinda close, I suppose, though it's still on a scale close to that picture. Pic related.

    Not that I don't like these Shirow designs. Maybe the KN Model powered armors look kinda like that...
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)23:37 No.14167963
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    Intron Bumpot~
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)23:39 No.14167980
    Shirow's Intron Depot designs are a bit... skanky, I confess. And on a side note, that Madox-01 flick seems darn hard to get a grip on.

    I'd like to see, or at some point, play a test match on the system.
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)23:41 No.14167998
    Shirow? Skanky?

    I am shocked, just absolutely SHOCKED, at this development.
    >> Anonymous 03/07/11(Mon)23:57 No.14168145
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    On /tg/'s IRC network, irc.thisisnotatrueending.com, there's a channel #megafloat where I have a test game. As for Madox 01...

    http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/anime/watch/v19488726rmmYm2gE has the full video, but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7T-6ThKoJ0 has the first five minutes, which is enough for you to get a feel for it, since Veoh doesn't seem to like me for whatever reason.

    I also have a forum, http://www.island3.com/forum/ where you could put your character sheets and comment on a test session you do.

    Actually quite a bit closer to what I have in mind, although less...skanky, I suppose would be the word this thread is using. I really do love the 80s mecha aesthetic.

    Since the thread loves cheesecake, it seems, here's some more!
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)00:00 No.14168170
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    Cheesecake! Yay!

    And hooray for not only 80's mecha design, but 80's clothing design as well. Dem shoulder paddings...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)00:16 No.14168344
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    I dunno, sometimes modern design isn't too bad...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)00:23 No.14168406
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    Ah, well. In the end, I have to concur. We can look into the past, but we have only now to live!

    Eh, even if only vigorously through imaginary adventures... but, c'est la vie. Also, I'm strangely fired up for this project. Haven't been this enthusiastic about homebrewing since Dyad. Except, well, in this case I have very little add and much to catch up, since the project's as far as it is already.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)00:31 No.14168463
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    Welp. Veoh's hating on me just as well. But at least I found a live torrent.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)01:43 No.14168995
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    >see Ama-no-Murakumo
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)02:28 No.14169219
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    One last bit of cheesecake to leave with you guys.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)02:32 No.14169239
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    Dunno lol.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)03:13 No.14169422
    ... hmm. I really can't get a proper grasp on the rules like this. If OP or someone else ever gets by to logging a fight, I'd appreciate a link to it. Much easier to learn by example.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)03:43 No.14169616

    Will this suffice?
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    And, uh... holy poop, counters are scary.

    Uh, on a related note, melee weapon defend damage range. What does it do again? I think I'm just derping, but I'm failing to find the details on that, at least in the combat section.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)04:38 No.14169925
    That's the range used when your opponent is Defending or has a Passive Melee Defense. Basically, you deal no damage if your attack doesn't surpass their Defense or PMD, making a high Melee Attack important in those situations, making Defense useful to those who don't want to concentrate on melee attacks.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)05:21 No.14170069
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    ... err, right, so, uh, err...

    Oh, god. I think I need to take this slowly.

    Okay. This bit here. I can't find the bit about these two parameters. I really should try this again after a good night's sleep.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)05:24 No.14170079
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    Wait, I'm herping a derp. So basically, my damage steps go up to +6 on a succesful melee attack? But the other is... err...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)05:30 No.14170093
    Lemme break it down for you.

    Base Damage is how much damage you deal when the difference between your Attack roll and their Melee Defense (either roll or Passive) is 0. When the difference is positive, you add Damage Steps (in this case, 2d6+6 each) up to your maximum Damage Range.So, if you roll a 18 for Attack and they roll a 16 for Defense, then you deal 2 damage steps worth of damage, or 4d6+12 damage.
    >> 01011001 !!q8KxB04TJME 03/08/11(Tue)05:32 No.14170101
    You use the counter base/steps for offensive melee, I believe. Not sure how it works for defending.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)05:38 No.14170114

    The Defense stats are used when you're attacking someone who is Defending. The Counter stats, on the other hand, are used when you're attacking someone who is Countering, or when you are Countering yourself. This, and the damage step explanation, should help you out.

    Also: I should be asleep, yes. For whatever reason, I am not.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)05:54 No.14170159
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    So, basically, are melee attack damages against a defending enemy capped at all, in terms of steps? I see step ratings for counters only for melee weapons.

    My god, I feel stupid.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)06:30 No.14170265
    They are capped! In the pic you link, the HFB is capped to 6 damage steps while the enemy is defending, so it can deal a maximum of 12d6+72 damage.

    That's what the 0/+6 means - you get no damage steps in the negative direction and up to 6 in the positive direction, based on the difference between your Melee Attack and their Melee Defense. If the difference were somehow 7 or more, you'd still deal only 12d6+72 damage.

    If you still need more, I'll try to walk you through it completely.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)06:37 No.14170286
    Right. I... I think I get it now.

    So a High Output Projector's maximum on a melee attack would be, uh... 24d6? Hmm. About that "Armor Damage x1" on the same weapon, am I correct in assuming that it still needs to defeat the laminate armor score before getting into the actual armor?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)06:51 No.14170338
    Archive this post. I don't have time to read it at the moment, but this part:
    >>Initiative is a resource. Initiative values are always increasing, redetermining the battle order. A high Initiative is required for some attacks, useful for others. Melee attacks consume Initiative. A high Initiative also protects you from guided missiles. Speed is life!

    Make me very happy.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)07:06 No.14170403
    No, it always deals armor damage equal to its laminate damage. And when laminate is gone, it deals both the laminate damage it would deal to armor, and the armor damage it already deals.

    So it's really really good is the idea. The EN cost is killer, though.

    Requested that this be added to the archives. There's also the discussion form linked in this thread if you want to discuss more.
    >> 01011001 !!q8KxB04TJME 03/08/11(Tue)15:15 No.14173147
    Afternoon bump.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)19:26 No.14175676
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    Okay. Rise in shine. Maybe I'll have a better luck comprehending the rules now that I'm a bit more fresh.

    Also, bump. This here thing deserves a serious read from any fans of mecha or cyberpunk Sci Fi.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)19:36 No.14175772
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    Also, posting more Megafloat Cheesecake Company promotional imagery to keep the thread floating.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)19:44 No.14175831
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    That's not a bad look for the ESD Troopers, actually. Here's another.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)19:50 No.14175884
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    Oh, cool. I'll throw in some more then.

    We're running the risk of causing people who see the thread get stuck in a fapping spree and not getting any reading done though.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)19:59 No.14175953
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    This image is the complete article of what the image text in >>14175772 is talking about.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)20:00 No.14175966
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    Eh, they'll look at it eventually. It's archived if they miss it, plus there's always the website.

    I've always loved this sort of aesthetic, which I feel is missing in modern stuff. LR69 is an attempt to bring it all back.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)20:07 No.14176017
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    I'm all for it. Good ol' Intron Depot. Pity half of my ID3 folder is corrupt.

    Say, one thing about the APU's - are they about the size category presented in the image, or more towards Armored Core's building-collapsing size category?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)20:12 No.14176059
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    The lightest models are 8 feet to the head, and the heaviest are 10 feet to the head, so yeah, definitely closer to the image's scale.

    Pic related - the Metalstorm is about that height, and the NES game is another big inspiration.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)20:20 No.14176141
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    Oh, cool. That makes their combat capabilities a little more... hrm, urban-friendly, in comparison to, for example, Armored Core or Battletech.

    Not that they can't lay waste to shit, but at least they won't collapse skyscrapers on a wrong step.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)20:44 No.14176419
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    Once again, this is the idea. The massive size of most mecha never made much sense to me.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)21:47 No.14177168
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    Hmm. I feel like trying character creation. What do you think would be an "average" char creation score? 20 MP, 10 SP, something something for money?

    Also, 4chan keeps claiming my smutty Shirow illustrations contain malicious code. The horror!
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)22:00 No.14177318
    If you want to start from the complete beginning of your career, $300,000, Pilot Traits, and 10 SP.
    If you want to make a full-power mech, just choose parts without regard to cost and add 20 MP, Pilot Traits, and 10 SP.

    http://www.island3.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5 has a part value calculator, and I'd really appreciate it if you posted whatever character you made in the Magus Record forum when you're done.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/11(Tue)22:07 No.14177401
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    Sure thing, boss. Hmm, I like playing my characters from the scratch, so I think I'll go with the starter set...

    Also, chickenwalker remotely related.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)01:10 No.14179543
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    Ok. 300,000$ sharp, zero Magus Points, 10 skill points. Should be pretty much in synch. Although I haven't the foggiest of whether this character's any good, though. Ah, well.
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    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)02:38 No.14180446
    Honestly, it depends on the encounter. Your guy seems good if you're up against low level enemies like Sportswalker and the like. But against a tank...yeah he'd be dead.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)02:56 No.14180585
    Ah, that much I'd expect, since it's a starter level APU character. It's mostly geared for fighting other APU's, as such.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)02:59 No.14180617
    Should be fine then man. I would recommend getting No Defense so you can roll max Damage Step against APUs and other things that can't counter.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)03:17 No.14180791
    It's an intriguing trick I never would've thought to use, using dual casting rods as both your ranged and melee weapons to save money. But I can't deny it works. Kudos to you for this design - looks very solid!
    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)03:29 No.14180912
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    The rods also fit the energy and weight profiles pretty neatly. The unit has plenty of room to improve with money though, especially with heavier, more expensive parts that could be used to boost the all-important Melee Defense which is woefully low on the thing.

    Also, seems someone posted another profile on the 'site too. Cool, we might have a second playing group together soon.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)04:11 No.14181221

    The proportions on that mech are confusing me.

    Is there supposed to be a pilot in there, or is it a robot?

    Usually when I see a design like that, its based around something at least 40 feet tall.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)04:14 No.14181251
    Since that's Appleseed work, I'm gonna go and say that's a robot. Hell, pretty sure that robot is that girl's boyfriend.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)04:17 No.14181270

    he is a full body cyborg

    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)04:21 No.14181301
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    You're being confused about the wrong detail.

    The right thing to wonder about concerning the image is "where's Waldo?"
    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)04:21 No.14181302

    Ahh, ok.

    Don't see many non-human looking cyborgs in anime these days. Maybe I should check out Apple Seed.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)04:23 No.14181314
    You certainly should. It's not the most depthful work of Sci Fi in the world, but you'll have a fun afternoon with it.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)04:31 No.14181374
    It's a four book series, well worth reading. It's the story of a group of cyborgs, bioroids, and humans who get caught up in a power struggle between a city-state designed to be a utopia, and the rest of the world in a setting that is a few years after a limited nuclear and chemical exchange between the world's superpowers.

    It remains unfinished. Masamune Shirow has been afraid to pick it back up and risk fucking up the ending because it's so good so far. I'm afraid he'll need a Stephen King Truck Event to spur him to tackle it.

    Rated against other sci fic works it's a middling sci fic setting, but a masterfully presented political story.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 03/09/11(Wed)04:32 No.14181379

    Found him. He's got a giant Smilyface for a head, but it's definately him.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/11(Wed)04:37 No.14181406
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    I should have posted a smaller resolution picture. Grumble.

    Also, Appleseed readable online at http://www.mangavolume.com/appleseed/chapter-appleseed-1/

    I wonder how sites like that stay afloat though, ripping Dark Horse et Co. as blatantly as they do.
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    Giving the thread a bump. A little more longevity~

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