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    478 KB CommanderQuest XXXVIII Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/13/10(Mon)21:07 No.13142413  
    >Last Time: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/13130768/
    >as of tomorrow at noon, I have 42 days to really hammer out my setting/rpg. FUCK YEAR WINTER BREAK!!

    You look over Sansas report again. Nearly doubling your prisoner count, wiping the enemy from the southmost leg of the front, scant few losses taken. She spoke truly, you did well. "Yes, yes we did Sansa." you reply reaching over and yanking her from her chair and onto your lap. "You however, my mad aid, nearly gave me a heart attack during the battle." you add.

    "No more mad than you at Khalless trial." she replies playfully "Though I am curious of a few things, if you dont mind humoring me." Sansa replies, curiosity in her voice.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)21:07 No.13142431
    "What's on your mind Sansa?"
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)21:08 No.13142442
    "Oh? What can I enlighten you about, my dear Sansa?"
    >> Pompieus the Butcher 12/13/10(Mon)21:12 No.13142497

    once we're done cuddling we really need to talk to janos about his brothers and this mysterious organization that keeps popping up in addition to what the hell those crystal things we recovered are

    >palace. Joistins

    yes captcha, our first son joistins will have a palace, the palace in dragonsreach!
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/13/10(Mon)21:23 No.13142623
    "Whats on your mind then, sansa?" you reply amiably

    "What do you think will become of all of our captives? I doubt Stant will want to give us anything after costing him three sons..." she asks.

    "If their lord will not pay their ransom their families might be able to. And if they are not freed through their families purses, as you know unransomed prisoners are fair meat for the arena or tracks. I'm sure they wont be on our hands for too terribly long." you reply honestly.

    "You arent thinking of starting your own gladiatorial franchise, are you?" the raven haired soldier chuckles out.

    "But of course not, though I certainly cannot speak for Janos. I did give him freedom to expand my wealth in whatever way he sees fit." you reply honestly.

    "On that subject, what of the Stant brothers? Who do you think is behind the deaths?"
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)21:24 No.13142632
    Idea. Let's send Jayne back to Dragonsreach to resupply and buy new Uursan. Since we are starting a new campaign hopefully we get more campaign funds to give her to do so. If not, well, we can use some personal funds and tell her it's an "investment in both of our futures" wink wink. Now, this is a two-pronged plan. The first is we help secure her services almost exclusively in the future from a business sense as well as a romantic one. Second, she's a career soldier and a noble, so when she gets back there we have her spread news of our glorious and crushing victories against the monstrous Lord Stant, who had previously easily defeated three maniples. Get her to spread the word of our triumphs around the city, and with the bad news coming from the north people will eat it up. We will be a hero.

    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)21:25 No.13142649
    Next, our mercs. We should tell them both that they have a choice. We will allow them to take their earnings and leave for Dragonsreach immediately should they wish to, or stay on with us for the following:

    Raiders: We will allow them to recruit any man that can ride from the captured mercenaries, and provide them the unheard-of benefit of choosing a warhorse from captured horses for each man. This will save them tens of thousands of coins, as warhorses are expensive. Indeed, these are expensive and well trained warhorses from the Uurlanthian army, far superior to their normal ones. They will then stay on and train those men until we need them in battle.

    Rapidriders: Since they are both elven and ride exotic mounts, we cannot make the same offer to them. Instead, we say that we will continue to only use them for scouting and running down fleeing troops, and if they stay on then at the end of the campaign we will write him a personal commendation saying that his services were invaluable assets to this campaign and his unit an excellent company of mercenaries and sign our name to it. This should be worth far more than gold, as he can show it to anyone wishing to hire his unit and have the validation of an Imperial Commander backing him.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)21:28 No.13142686
    It seems that Khalless might have been working for the same men who killed the Stant brothers. It is likely they are trying to take over Uurlanth through subterfuge just as they were trying to take over the Empire through force with Khalless. We will need to be extra wary of spies and implement pass phrases.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)21:30 No.13142715
    "I honestly have no idea at this point beyond people related to what happened in the north. They had the same emblem as some of those raiders and the slavers we fought earlier this month. It seems like they're pulling strings behinds the scenes and it's something we'll definitely need to look into. I have Finian going over Khalless' letters but perhaps we should scour his tomes for that symbol we've been coming across. I had hoped to translate more of Khalless' letters but I believe I should inform our superiors that there may be more to Khalless than a minor rebellion."

    This would take more than 3 weeks I believe, making it non-feasible unless we want to let Jayne go for awhile.
    >> Pompieus the Butcher 12/13/10(Mon)21:31 No.13142724

    pull out the knife that was found in gaerick

    "I honestly dont know, but it has something to do with this symbol and the men who bare it"
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/13/10(Mon)21:36 No.13142781
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    >starting your own gladiatorial franchise

    And Why The Hell Arnt We?
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/13/10(Mon)21:43 No.13142860
    You set the knife you found buried in Gaericks chest out and set it on the table "Whoever was behind it, they are large and organized. This symbol was found on some of Khalless' servants, as well as Stant soldiers. We need to keep an eye out for more of them." you state, feeling Sansa tense ever so slightly as she looks the blade over.

    "Thats... troubling. What do you suppose we will do while we wait for the time to set out for Uurlanth?" Sansa asks, settling back into you , now that the knife is on the table again.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)21:46 No.13142904
    "Reinforce our units, hire new mercenaries and begin planning how to bypass that fort and where to make a crossing at the river. Janos should be useful with that. We should also see if we can help the other maniples on the line. I'm also worried about Lord Stant himself reappearing at some point with more forces so our scouts are going to have to keep an eye out for anyone approaching. Anything specific you think we should take care of?"
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)21:47 No.13142910

    Improve Degrain's designs and see about getting reinforcements for our individual units in the field.

    We'll also need to talk with our mercs to see if they'll want to continue. This will be an extended and harsh campaign.
    >> Pompieus the Butcher 12/13/10(Mon)21:48 No.13142927

    reinforce our units, extend the defences of fort skywatch

    oh, and maybe some griffin hunting
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/13/10(Mon)21:48 No.13142942
    "Prepare another letter, that but not one, but two of Lord Stant's sons are dead, and a third my have been the cause of one of them. Assassins are something i'd generally not want to deal with again, even more so with the newest members of our retinue about.

    But other then that, i suppose i can afford to relax, if just a little bit" Hand meets thigh, smile to lips, maybe, lip to lip.
    >> girder 12/13/10(Mon)21:53 No.13143009
    I made a to do list based on ideas from the previous thread, as well as my own thoughts:

    1. Give Sansa an affectionate kiss and loving scolding
    2. Report situation to High Commander at Stone Fort and others on the Southern line; mention the involvement of a mysterious group using peculiar markings, previously encountered; tell Nomz we’ll send assistance immediately
    3. Setup base defenses
    4. Hold a celebration for the men
    5. Expand prisoner camp
    6. Prepare fortress to act as staging area
    7. Hold staff meeting
    8. Ask around about the mysterious hammer and anvil symbols
    9. See to Gaerick’s body
    10. Assemble assistance force for Commander Nomz
    11. Send for reinforcements to replenish our forces
    12. Back-massages for all of Justinian’s ladies
    13. Inform Laelith of Finian’s efforts in translating Khalless’ tomes as well as for the need for her assistance in teaching Lena…while giving her back massage
    14. Steal Laelith’s robes
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/13/10(Mon)21:54 No.13143021
    "Reinforce our number, help the other maniples, send word to Lord Stant of what happened to his sons, rest." you reply plainly.

    "What, no party for our victorious forces?" Sansa teases.
    >> Pompieus the Butcher 12/13/10(Mon)21:55 No.13143032

    add griffin hunting to that list and you've got yourself a deal Mr. girder
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)21:55 No.13143039
    I have to wonder how long we're going to keep Justinian on a dry spell with so many completely willing females about. I personally vote for spending quality time with Laelith after we talk to her about her feelings now that she is free from Khalless and/or get her face and tattoos fixed. That's going to be an emotional talk and could easily lead into a pleasant, comforting, and engaging night for both her and Justinian. And I say Laelith first because she's the one we need to spend the most time on and who could be hurt the most mentally and emotionally by the multiple consorts thing.
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)21:56 No.13143047

    We can have a feast but be very light on the alcohol.

    A force celebrating it's victory is highly vulnerable.
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)21:57 No.13143064

    And the feast MUST feature valkyrie.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)21:58 No.13143070
    "That eager to drink the rest under the table again? That was a given of course, I was thinking in the long term. Think we should leave Wulf to organizing it again or would you like to take part in that? You did an admirable job of raising the mens spirits after our last battle on the way back."
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)21:59 No.13143081
    If you want, you can have a party in my pants, Sansa.

    ...wait, shit, don't say that. Though after this campaign, we ARE having a goddamned orgy with all our ladies at once, if it's the last thing we do.

    Anyway, no celebration. Or perhaps a very small one. The war's not over, and we're expected to spearhead the next assault- that means we get to be extra-professional.
    >> girder 12/13/10(Mon)21:59 No.13143086
    I'm not even sure we know where to look for them, or if we do if they'd be anywhere near.

    In any case, once festivities are over, let's have another staff meeting (Yes, the third one I've asked for, I know.) and get the others preparing the camp to act as the staging point (setting up the defenses, since we can't be too careful now.), and ensuring that the prisoner accommodations are sufficient while we wait for the relief force.

    Also, we'll want to organize a taskforce to assist Commander Nomz. I was thinking:

    a. -454th Legionary
    Cornelius Hoursch
    b. -99th Hunters
    Aurelius Caspius
    c. -50th Dwarven Scouts
    Finian Gaurush
    d. -Impetus Marauders (Elf)
    Aeristus Beztia
    e. -Cornwall Mercenaries
    Buckmoore Kystris

    What do you guys think?
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:01 No.13143121
    I have to agree with this. I know fa/tg/uys move slow on the romance but god damn. They've been with us for nearly a year. If we don't start showing some true romantic interest rather than just flirting they are going to go elsewhere.
    >> Pompieus the Butcher 12/13/10(Mon)22:03 No.13143146

    i think pax said that they flew over the plains or in the mountians south of our position

    and i think we should wait for a full appraisal of Nornz situation before we commit any forces to his front
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)22:04 No.13143161
    How about we wait until Nomz gets back to us before we start planning on what to send? For all we know, he could be having an arcanist problem like that other commander, or the terrain is crap for heavy infantry or he needs a lot of range support.

    I'm more in favour of seeing if Khalless' tomes have anything on that symbol we keep seeing. That or asking Janos some questions on like why he switched so easily, if he's religious and if he noticed anything odd about Morwayne before he was captured/in the last few months. We should also ask about Stant's heir and get some information on him and interrogate the prisoners and try to find out where Lord Stant went and if he'll be back soon with mercenary reinforcements just like the other maniples are facing. We may think we're done with Stant but until we deal with Lord Stant himself, we may not be done at all.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:05 No.13143186
    Throw in our siege engines, or at least most of them. Heavy firepower is essential. Speaking of firepower, send Wulf with them, too. That should be enough of a force to turn the tide of battle against most things.
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)22:06 No.13143187

    We've already done this. Her tattoos can only be fixed with a good life elementalist, someone we've not been able to find as of yet and will probably only be successful back in the Capital.


    I'm not comfortable of sending troops that are going to be in the thick of it when we advance. We need them rested.

    We should consider if the mercs want to break off or not. If they are, we can send those to Normz before they head back to Dragonreach. For now though, we should wait for the update from Normz.

    Regarding the river, we need to speak with Janos about its breadth and find a good crossing. With our lead time, it should be possible to prepare rapid bridging equipment and bring it along.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/13/10(Mon)22:09 No.13143232
    "Well of course." you reply "But we cant drink _that_ much, as we are still on the front line." Sansa pouts slightly, looking up at you, you rest a hand on her thigh, placating her "If it would make it up to you, I'll let you plan this one instead of Wulf, you do seem to have a talent for keeping everyones spirits up."

    Sansa turns around in your lap, so that she is fully facing you, smiling she throws her arms around your neck "I suppose that will do, but at the end of this campaign you owe me for going slow this once." she replies, pulling your head down so that she can plant a kiss on your forehead. "But I suppose I have work to do now, Justinian." she adds, sliding from your lap, and doing her best to mimic the hip swivel that Laelith uses out of habit on her way from the tent.

    >well, what do you want to do now?
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:10 No.13143240
    What do you mean, will probably only be successful in the capital? We are training two life elementalists right here in camp, and frankly we have the highest concentration of cutting-edge elementalism in our maniple anywhere in the empire, as far as I know. We're not going to randomly find someone more skilled than we've already got.

    Agreed on investigating the possibility of rapid bridging equipment, though. We should talk to our staff engineer about putting something together.
    >> Laurentius 12/13/10(Mon)22:10 No.13143248
    I'd say have 14 happen during or after the party
    > I missed you guys, the cruise to the bahamas was fun but it sucked to miss the last 3 threads
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)22:13 No.13143264

    To Janos. He should be allowed to pay his respects to his dead brothers.


    Our life elementalist have only just began on their journey. Laelith's tattoos require someone very experienced, basically someone who has been hiding and keeping their talents hidden. Pax mentioned previously we'll only find them in the capital after a good search.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)22:13 No.13143265
    Interrogate prisoners. A) Find out where the slavers came from in the first place since they had that emblem and B) where the hell did Lord Stant himself go and why? I don't know why people are overlooking the fact Lord Stant, the guy involved in 2/3s of the tactical planning while he was around, just left the battlefield to his two sons.
    >> Pompieus the Butcher 12/13/10(Mon)22:13 No.13143270

    everything outlined here>>13143009

    also, where are those wascally gwiffins again?
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/13/10(Mon)22:14 No.13143295
    rolled 58 = 58

    Just gonna throw this one out there. Our men are why we did well, not just our good planning. We need to have two days of leave for everyone. Still have guard duty and what not, not letting down our guard too much, but we need to let them recuperate while we are waiting on our new men. Then we can detail men to the making of the fort larger as a staging point. Which we haven't named yet. I vote for Eagle's Liberty.

    Eagle's Liberty: Eagle meaning a lot of things ranging from Janos Stant, the valkyries, or the embodiment of "freedom" and the predatory nature of the eagle. Liberty obviously ranging from "freeing" the valkyries from captivity (dohohohoho), freeing Janos from his family, and us liberating the slaves as well as it being the staging point for liberating the entire valley area anyways.
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/13/10(Mon)22:15 No.13143303
    Again, question on this?
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/13/10(Mon)22:17 No.13143329
    rolled 48 = 48

    Because, we may not worship the goddess of freedom, but she IS our patron. As well as Justinian might be power hungry and willing to do some less than moral things, some things just are out of his character to do.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:18 No.13143348
    Keeping their talents hidden? But how is that even possible- elementalism wasn't even around until quite recently, when all the gods and arcana and what have you started coming back. If it had been, people would have started fountaining fire and lightning all over the place and we wouldn't have belief issues with the people back home. No one can be THAT much more experienced than our people because there simply hasn't been that much time in which anyone could have been gaining experience.

    Further, if they've been hiding their powers they haven't been using them, and therefore growing more powerful/skilled. Ours are- they're pushing themselves constantly, and further enhancing the growth of their powers by the use of an arcana specifically designed for that purpose. They can stop hearts at fifty paces after less than a year. It's utterly ridiculous to think that some person who's been concealing their abilities for some indeterminate amount of time would be able to match that level of power and skill.
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/13/10(Mon)22:19 No.13143371
    rolled 3 = 3

    Pax stated that elementalists and mystics weren't GONE, they just were not nearly as prolific as now. We are an extreme oddity, having so many elementalists.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:21 No.13143389
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    Look at your army. Now back to me. Now back to your army. NOW BACK TO ME. Sadly, it isn't my army. But if you stopped using obvious tactics and defected to the glorious Empire, you could have seven waifus like me. Look down, BACK UP. Where are you? You're on a battlefield WITH THE CAPTAINS YOU COULD COMMAND YOUR ARMY WITH. What's in your hand? BACK TO ME. I have it. It's an arcane treasure with two elements of that thing you love. Look again. THE ARCANE TREASURES ARE NOW DRAGOONS. Anything is possible when you serve under Justinian Trentz and not some faggoty elves. I'M ON A BEAR.
    >> Pompieus the Butcher 12/13/10(Mon)22:22 No.13143407

    im still gunnin' for Fort Skywatch!

    and yes, the exclamation point is always present
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:22 No.13143410
    If they weren't gone, why in hell isn't their existence a matter of acknowledged public record, even if they're normally so rare as to be nothing more than a curiosity? There's obviously no law against the use of such powers, and people with unique talents simply don't hide them when they could be used to great profit.
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/13/10(Mon)22:24 No.13143427
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    rolled 26 = 26

    Oh god, my side hurts......so bad, I'm tearing up.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/13/10(Mon)22:24 No.13143433
    >you havent been in town to do so since getting the cash to set this up, if you wanted to.

    Sighing you rise from your seat and make your way to Janos room/cell. You hate to be the bearer of bad news but, someone has to be. You enter the room and signal for the young man to follow you. "How did the battle go? and dont you normally wait longer after these to have your staff meetings?" he asks as you head to the cell you had the body placed in.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:24 No.13143436
    Seven waifus? We only have 4 waifus and one goddess targeted to become a waifu in the future.

    While I am not opposed to further waifus, especially Lena, that would still only make it six.
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)22:25 No.13143449

    I hope we have that knife with us and that note. We need him to help us figure out who and what would want to orchestrate such an act.
    >> girder 12/13/10(Mon)22:25 No.13143452
    >well, what do you want to do now?

    Well since we're back and a in a celebratory mood I suppose now would be a good time to give the ladies those back massages.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)22:26 No.13143455
    "The battle was mostly successful. This isn't a staff meeting, however, and you'll understand what this is once we reach our destination."
    >> Pompieus the Butcher 12/13/10(Mon)22:26 No.13143459

    "wanna see something funny?"
    >> girder 12/13/10(Mon)22:27 No.13143465
    After talking to Janos, of course.

    Oh, and maybe we can see the the prisoners are accommodated before seeing the ladies.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:27 No.13143470
    Look at your _____. Now back to me. Now back to your _____. NOW BACK TO ME. Sadly, it isn't my _____. But if you stopped _____, you could _____ like me. Look down, BACK UP. Where are you? You're on a _____ WITH _____. What's in your hand? BACK TO ME. I have it. It's _____ with _____ of that thing you love. Look again. THE _____ ARE NOW _____. Anything is possible when you _____ and not _____. I'M ON A _____.

    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:27 No.13143480
    I just pulled a number out of my ass. Seven sounded impressive without being too far over the top.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)22:30 No.13143506
    Honest question guys: How come you're all willing to just ignore the fact Lord Stant left right before the eclipse and not try to find out what he's up to? Especially when we know the other maniples, who were initially kicking the ass of their opponents, were all hit hard with mercenary reinforcements against them.
    >> Laurentius 12/13/10(Mon)22:30 No.13143515
    while I'm pro-gladiator, I don't think Janos is the right person to manage our troop of gladiators when they're made up of former House Stant fighters. Janos would better serve us as a puppet ruler of his father's lands after his father and brother meet their untimely demise.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/13/10(Mon)22:31 No.13143524
    You hand Janos the knife, he stops in his tracks as he looks it over. "Where did you find this?" he asks, worriedly.

    You open the door to the cell you had Gaericks body placed in, behind you, you can hear the knife drop "Burried in your brothers chest, at the hand of his battlefield physician. The Leg wounds are from my men, I had intended to ransom him, but..."

    Janos face is twisted into a mask of rage "Did you at least kill her bastard then?" he asks, slowly walking into the room.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)22:31 No.13143527
    As amusing as that'd be, I don't think that'd go over well... Also, the knife we found in the letter to Janos. Can anyone remember if it was a plain knife or if it had symbols on it?
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:32 No.13143539
    Suspicious, maybe... but nobles can't always be everywhere at once. It could be something as mundane as needing to attend to his estates or arrange the marriage for Janos.
    >> girder 12/13/10(Mon)22:33 No.13143543
    I'm curious about that as well. Perhaps we should do that after talking with Janos.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:33 No.13143545
    I second this.

    I was wondering if anyone else was going to bring that up.

    We need to get a report from Blackbird, see if supply convoys are still entering our area; if they are, then Stant is still around, and we'll need to find out where he is.
    If not, then we still need to scout out the area, and try to find out what he's up to.

    Also, we need to appraise and identify those crystal obelisks we captured.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:33 No.13143546
    "Considering that I have no idea who you're referring to, I can't answer that definitively. A great many people died. Would you care to provide some context?"
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)22:33 No.13143547

    "Dead at the hands of your brother's loyal bodyguards. If anything, I am sorry for your loss."


    Symbols. It had the note too.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:34 No.13143561
    Whose bastard? Perhaps if you would be more forthcoming with me I wouldn't be in the dark here. Perhaps if you had TRUSTED me like I TRUST you, I would have been able to save your brother's life.

    Tell me what you know Janos. I have been patient and wish to be your friend and help you, but I cannot abide lies... even if they be of omission rather than the normal sort. What do you know?
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)22:34 No.13143563
    "Kill her bastard? What are you talking about?"

    If Lord Stant didn't have a final son that is his designated heir back in his home lands, I would agree with you. That and Lord Stant has been described as a battlefield commander and Morwayne only accounted for around 1/3 of the cleverness of their tactics. Lord Stant was a major element of his army and unless the King called him back, I don't see why he would leave unless he's coming back with something to hurt us. Which is why we should try to find out why he left.
    >> Pompieus the Butcher 12/13/10(Mon)22:34 No.13143564


    it seems lord stant has more than one bastard in his family

    ask if he's talking about morwayne, and his relationship with his brothers in general
    >> girder 12/13/10(Mon)22:35 No.13143568
    >We need to get a report from Blackbird

    That reminds me: We need to call in Blackbird and his guys.

    Or will they just head home given that the enemy base is now a smoking ruin?
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)22:36 No.13143582

    The bastard is probably referring to the assassin.

    The more important thing is to find out who the "her" is.
    >> girder 12/13/10(Mon)22:36 No.13143591
    Or...it could just be a typo.
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/13/10(Mon)22:37 No.13143594
    Ah Ha.

    and slaves, is a harsh word, it's possible to survive, very possible, when you pick from elite POWs or volunteers, that're trained to be selective melee specialists, with tactics unlike regular soldiers.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)22:38 No.13143612
    You sure? I just went over the archives and the knife in the latter Morwayne gave to Janos was just described to be a light metal knife but that's all. No symbol or note inside of it was mentioned... Maybe we should take another look at this knife and see if it matches the one used to kill Gaerick.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/13/10(Mon)22:39 No.13143621
    "Whose bastard wouild that be?" you ask "A great many died that day, including a man using mysticism to impersonate Morwayne." you reply

    "The heir, Ranulf Stant... his wife, she came to him with her child. Ugly, sneaky, manipulative bastard, even he admitted it. Kept getting worse too, and between him and Cleophas, they, changed... my eldest brother. Wait, you expect magic, not arcana?" Janos replies, not leaving his brothers corpses side.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:41 No.13143647
    Not magic. The other corpse here was a Mystic. It is likely he was either using a Glamour to impersonate your brother or Mysticism to mentally manipulate him.
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)22:41 No.13143654

    In what way?


    But you miss the point about gladiatorial fights. The idea is not to survive and win, it's to put on a show and win or die spectacularly.

    No one wants to see a particular group keep winning and killing. It's no fun and the gambling won't be profitable.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:42 No.13143657
    "Yes, I do. Janos, I think it is time that you gave me a complete picture of your family's politics. I will not have something like this happen under my nose, AGAIN, because I didn't know to expect it."
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)22:43 No.13143669
    "The person impersonating Morwayne has some manner of rod in his pocket but I haven't had the chance to examine it. Who is this Cleophas person and what happened to Morwayne if he was being impersonated?"

    Not talking about that knife. I meant the one hidden in the letter that Morwayne gave to us to give to Janos when we freed the slaves. The one from Lord Stant talking about how he wouldn't be ransomed and all. It had a knife hidden in it and I'm wondering if the two blades were similar.
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)22:43 No.13143680

    Ah, my bad. I misread and thought you were talking about last sunday.


    Lets not be so harsh. We don't need our new ally to think poorly of us.
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/13/10(Mon)22:44 No.13143689
    I speak not of the profit or the show, but the skill of accomplished myrmidons, given their freedom earlier, with a short stint in our force.
    "I dont 'expect' it, I Know It. At work is no mere toys hundreds of years old, but blood and power of this day and age."
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)22:45 No.13143701
    "Yes, because there was no evidence of arcana, and the effect dissipated immediately once the agents died."

    Oh, Pax, would it be possible to purchase draft horses or oxen from Fluemnos and lots of wagons?
    Not only would riding be faster and less tiring on our men, but we'll need wagons to carry all of our loot from pillaging Uurlanth territory.
    >> girder 12/13/10(Mon)22:48 No.13143734
    Nevermind. I just remember the one time Pax forgot to put a comma on one of Sansa's lines and changed the meaning entirely. Apparently it isn't a typo in this case.

    Okay, now I'm confused. Sit Janos down and have him explain it clearly and as calmly as possible.
    >> girder 12/13/10(Mon)22:49 No.13143748
    Oh, and like everyone else said, explain about what we saw during and after the battle.
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/13/10(Mon)22:50 No.13143770
    Don't we also have the note that was attached to the knife?
    Shouldn't we show it to him and have him explain its implications concerning the Stant House and line of succession to us?
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)22:51 No.13143783

    But if not for profit and entertainment that what would the point of running the gladiatorial franchise be for?

    Not too sure what you're trying to get at.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/13/10(Mon)22:52 No.13143803
    "Not expect, know. The arcane and divine are returning to their fullness at the closing of this Second Age. The man impersonating your brother had a jeweled rod, about as long as my hand twice over. and yes, the assassin was slain at the hands of Gaericks loyal guards. Now Cleophas is..."

    "My eldest brothers wife. The man I'm hoping with all my might you killed was her bastard son, my brother had it in his heart to adopt the wretch, so great was his love for Cleophas. They, whatever they worshipped, whatever cult or group they were part of. I suspect they pulled my sweet brother into its grasp. And with their talent, he was soon a better politic than I, and wiser in tactics than father. The future lady of house Stant made no secret of her dislike of me and Gaerick."

    >gotta go afk for a few, brb
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/13/10(Mon)22:54 No.13143834
    Wow... you really only read a 3rd of that sentance, let me show you the rest again.
    >but the skill of accomplished myrmidons, given their freedom earlier, with a short stint in our force.

    The Gladiators have more unorthodox fighting tactics, going for debilitating blows and shock factor, a good use for skirmish or ambush troops.
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/13/10(Mon)22:56 No.13143847
    rolled 20 = 20

    Guys, are we really considering a gladitorial company? I don't feel like having a Gladiator scenario on our plates.....
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)22:57 No.13143863

    Best we show him the other corpse then.


    More of I didn't quite understand the rest of it.

    So you want to integrate the survivors of the fights into our forces? Is that really such a good idea? They're still the enemy and will hate us.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)22:57 No.13143865
    Huh. So that's how the gods are involved in this campaign then. I assume this wife is a follower of the Sycophant god.

    "You've mentioned his hate for Gaerick and yourself but what about Morwayne? Do you think he took his place before this campaign started or during it? The man we killed has a crimson hammer on his lesioned forehead and he was damn ugly. He killed himself once I took him alive based on what I found in his mouth."
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)22:59 No.13143881
    I have to agree. Pax joked that we shouldn't think Khalless' rebellion was a Spartacus rebellion but I don't actually want to cause something like that to happen. The gladiators would have no good cause to fight for us. The only way I'd see us getting a loyal gladiator unit is if we went to the arena and freed some of the fighters and had them work for us/be a bodyguard. Might work out for us as well since we'd technically be freeing people.
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/13/10(Mon)23:02 No.13143914

    Recitation: "Eesh. Are all Uurlathian house noble politics this nasty? Maybe when this is all said and done, you could make a fortune with a thinly-veiled recounting in the form of a drama. At any rate, I can have the body of the man impersonating Morwayne brought in so you can identify him if you wish. If it's who you think it is, I just made a powerful enemy."
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/13/10(Mon)23:03 No.13143933
    rolled 47 = 47

    The only way I can see this justifiable is by taking the people who aren't going to be ransomed, then take them as a troop and enter them into the gladiatorial arena in our company. Promising that if they survive 10 fights or whatever is the standard for those in the fights that we had to go through to be a commander but after such they have to stay in our maniple in a specific unit for at LEAST a year to earn true freedom. Is that doable Pax? We need to come off as kind but still within reason of POW's treatment if we try it.

    I mean, what really happens to POW's if they aren't ransomed?
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/13/10(Mon)23:03 No.13143935
    There is more than one way to get someones trust, as there is more than one way to get a fighter, pulling from POWs is an option, maybe a good way to get a small start for the gladiator portion, but 100% of the skirmishing auxiliary forces dont need to be past foes.

    The Gladiator portion is also a slightly good idea, as it gives way to smaller battles, not always rectangles and squares impacting one another until they break or shatter. It's also a way for Pax to handle something if he's not feeling up to a Big battle.

    But to start, House Stand fighters could work, for a small test batch as options for other fighters are looking into. a small merc band is way in dept, we could buy their dept off of them, in exchange for working off 50% or so of the cost in the arena. almost like a Contract to them. And, other ideas.
    >> girder 12/13/10(Mon)23:04 No.13143940
    Seconding these two.

    Also I gotta go afk now.
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/13/10(Mon)23:04 No.13143941
    Sounds good, and we should ask confirmation from Janos that this cult uses the hammer and anvil as their emblem.
    If so, and we could prove this somehow with evidence beyond just a testimonial from a turncoat, then we would have evidence that a force in Uurlanth was assisting Khalless in sedition against the Empire.
    Which means that the Empire will then be able to search internally for any evidence of this same cult and eliminate it before it can do any harm.
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)23:05 No.13143963

    I don't really like it either but I'm first trying to understand the reasoning behind it.

    Gladitorial units as skirmishers will occupy a niche role in our army that our other units can fulfill. Furthermore, good gladiators will use flashy moves, getting them killed fast. Replenishing their ranks will take longer as we can't just induct normal soldiers into their ranks. They will also be on our payroll, meaning an additional drain.
    >> Laurentius 12/13/10(Mon)23:05 No.13143966
    wait, didn't the knife have a message with the gist of "bastards don't inherit" or something like that?
    >> girder 12/13/10(Mon)23:06 No.13143979
    But before I go I just wanna state that, for the record, I'm against setting up a gladiatorial franchise.

    It just seems like too much work and I'd rather we invest our money in other endeavors like Kyria's enterprise and the restoration of old temples, as would be appropriate for someone attempting to bring back the office of the 7th Praetorian.
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/13/10(Mon)23:06 No.13143983
    Yes, which is why I asked to have the note shown to Janos.
    It hasn't occurred yet, however.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)23:07 No.13144002
    "Bastards do not inherit, only the bold and faithful thrive."
    I think he was referring to himself and how he's assassinating his way to being in power of the house.

    To be fair, I think you're underestimating the gladiators. For them to survive long enough, they'd be pretty kick ass fighters but I think they wouldn't fit in with the disciplined army we have myself. If they could have the kick ass combat skills and be disciplined? I'd be all over that but we're sacrificing one for the other if we try to get gladiators is the way I see it.
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/13/10(Mon)23:10 No.13144037
    rolled 34 = 34

    We could just drop the gladiator idea......too many opportunities for it to NOT succeed and be a red number instead of green in our account.
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/13/10(Mon)23:12 No.13144065


    Statement: we should end this line of thought. There already is a semi-gladitorial circuit to begin with.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)23:12 No.13144067
    Guys, the gladiator concept was a throwaway line. It's a lot of work and player attention to something ultimately not necessary. Don't bother with it; what we need are legionnaires filled with personal loyalty, not slaves working for the chance to get away from us.
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)23:14 No.13144085

    One thing I'm considering is indentured public servants. Once they serve a term, working at things like public improvement projects, they can return home. Thing is, it smacks waaay too much like slavery. Furthermore Pax mentioned it does not happen regularly.


    The more I read that quote, the more I believe that Gaerick actually said that to Ranulf. Sound like something a headstrong man would say.

    Perhaps I'm underestimating them. However I still put forward that integrating them into our current force will be problematic at best. They'll also be constantly plagued with low morale. They aren't even mercenaries. They'll be like those slaves that were herded towards us.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)23:16 No.13144105
    Finish the talk with Janos.

    Next do this from the beginning of the thread. Good, solid plan.

    Then steal Laelith's robes and bring them back to our tent where we can watch over them. We'll need to find a hiding place during the day too. Leave only the most sexy and revealing one for her to wear, since she needs something.
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/13/10(Mon)23:17 No.13144118
    rolled 94 = 94

    So no use of POW's then. Settled.

    On to important matters after dealing with Janos. We need to probably double the size of our fort, have an internal area for officers and officials, as well as outlying towers for scouting and what not. That hill if I recall already has a temp one on it that we posted up on it.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)23:17 No.13144121

    They will be ransomed. Stant will have to do it, otherwise nobody will ever want to fight for him again. That's just the way these things go, you have to pay the ransom for your troops even if you hate the enemy.

    And if he doesn't then they are executed, because that's what happens when your ransom is not paid.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)23:19 No.13144135
    Why leave it? Make it so she has to stay in her tent and demand a personal visit from us to get them back.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)23:19 No.13144138
    Seriously? It'll take more than 3 weeks for her to reach the capital, which means we're going to march without Jayne if we do that plan. I find that plan not so solid, especially if we can't get any cavalry mercenaries from that city. Even if we do get more cavalry mercs, they will not be as effective as Jayne's noble cavalry as we've seen so far.

    I personally am still up for interrogating the prisoners and finding out about what Lord Stant is up to and if we should prepare for another attack within the next 2 weeks. That or start getting some information from Janos on who/what is at the fort and what fords at the river we might be able to cross. Although that could wait for a bigger meeting. We should get the engineers working on a way to cross the rivers easier though if Degrian is done with his wagons.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/13/10(Mon)23:19 No.13144146
    You hand Janos the note"Does this mean anything to you?"

    He scans the note, rising from his fallen brothers side. "That is the bastards handwriting. Something Gaerick said to him years ago. If the bastard is dead, he must have read something in your mind that made him believe he would not be able to escape you. I'm assuming this is a cult you have encountered before?" Janos asks, stuffing a clenched fist into his breast pocket, brushing off his hand as he withdraws it.

    >and yea, all Uurlanthi politics are that nasty.
    >> Scipio The Lesser 12/13/10(Mon)23:20 No.13144150
    I don't see anything wrong with selling them into gladiatorial service instead of wasting all the money they represent. Just by selling them doesn't mean we make our own gladiatorial service or something. Profit = good, Waste of resources = bad.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)23:20 No.13144152
    How long will it take for us to get reinforced? Her unit is running pretty low. Maybe we can have her sister recruit some Uursan riders for the house and send them to the front for us?
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/13/10(Mon)23:20 No.13144155
    The importance is a good trainer, or a good keeper.

    Though didnt Pax say POWs were Ransomed, Randomed to personal Family, and then the indentured servant/gladiator/Test Prisoners route was taken.
    We're looking to those with nothing to lose, not wanted by their country, or their families. A good portion could be used to help fix the temples, another, to the arena. I dont think i'd want to send any to the test fights for officers, as that one, sounds the very worst. Die at the hands of other prisoners, die at the hands of the guards, or fight and fight and fight Ten Times in fairly large battles with only a slim chance to win, hoping and hoping you dont get a crap student to lead you. The third part i want to prevent, which would happen less we take a hand in dealing with the remaining prisoners. Could be 3 men left after all the ransoming, who knows.
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)23:21 No.13144162

    >Called it on the remark!

    Pax, what happens to soldiers who are not ransomed?
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)23:21 No.13144164
    Except slavery is frowned upon in the empire, so we can't sell them. If the ransom is not paid they just get executed.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)23:22 No.13144171
    "I believe we saw some of their men up north during my last campaign I mentioned to you and Kaitlyn earlier. They were raiding some villages but they didn't seem to be too high up in this cult. That and some of the slavers forcing the slaves forward were apart of the cult."

    Damnit Janos, stop avoiding talking about Morwayne.
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/13/10(Mon)23:22 No.13144172
    What do other people think of getting horses/oxen and wagons from Flumenos, buying them with any requisition money or our personal funds if necessary?

    With enough wagons, we can travel much faster than on foot, and the men won't be as tired. It'll be easier to transport our heavy repeaters and any siege engines we decide to bring with us on our pillaging of the Uurlanth country-side.
    And finally, we need a way to carry all of the loot we're going to plunder.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)23:24 No.13144193
    Flumenos is the closest city and an old map Pax posted said it was about 2 weeks from our position. That means getting back to the capital will take ages in comparison. We're either keeping Jayne with us as is or sending her back and I doubt she'll want to go back until her unit has been hurt more with the benefits this campaign might have to her house.

    Might be worth looking into. It depends how easy it'll be to get by the fort since oxen and more wagons will slow us down since Degrian won't be able to make a huge ton of the new models soon enough I assume. We'll need to look at the terrain.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)23:24 No.13144199
    >or our personal funds if necessary

    No, we've already spent money on this campaign. Our objective is not just victory, it's wealth and power too.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)23:25 No.13144211
    Dude, I'm pretty sure with the 10k dragoons we already spent we bought plenty of wagons. An army never marches without them.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)23:26 No.13144216
    Well I doubt we're getting new requisition money so we're going to have to spend personal funds on new mercenaries. Plus we get to loot cities now so we're going to be making money once we push across the river and start hitting their towns.
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)23:27 No.13144229

    Agreed on not sending Jayne back. Just news that the son of lord strant is being tried for war crimes will spread word of our victory. We can just get Jayne's sister to do the PR work for us.


    With our men out of combat, they can help cut wood and do basic task under supervision while our engineers work on the finer parts. We should be able to build a good number.

    Putting forward again, having degrain design rapid bridging equipment once hes done with the wagon design.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)23:28 No.13144238
    Especially since Lord Stant has wiped out three other maniples. Once word on the condition of our maniple gets back to the capital and that we smashed their main advance, that's going to look good for us. Hell, it got the 2nd Praetorian's attention.
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/13/10(Mon)23:31 No.13144273

    Observation: Justinian should be personally able to aid with bridging when it becomes Necessary.

    Addendum: we should work on adding earthshaping once we have time to meditate. Being able to erect stone walls on the fly should never be considered useless.
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/13/10(Mon)23:32 No.13144281
    >It depends how easy it'll be to get by the fort since oxen and more wagons will slow us down
    A valid point. I don't expect the terrain to be a problem, this valley being mostly flat, but until we look a topographical map, we won't know.

    Turning our entire maniple into, what is essentially medieval motorized infantry (dragoons), would allow us to travel distances without our men being tired out from marching.
    We also require a way of easily transporting the heavy repeaters for firepower superiority as we start attacking Uurlanth directly.
    And finally, we will need some way of transporting pillaged loot from our raids.

    Look, I appreciate that you want to save us money for many of the projects we want to start when we return to the capital. But if those arguments had won out when we were hiring additional mercenaries, we'd be in very bad straits right now.
    Can you honestly say that the investment of hiring more mercs did not pan out for the best? Being stingy would have seriously hurt us during this campaign, and would likely have meant that we would need to retire from the offensive instead of being the go-ahead to plunder to our heart's content.
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)23:32 No.13144287
    Kind of makes me wish we had a competent water elementalist with us. Then we could cross the river where ever we wanted and surprise the hell out of them.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/13/10(Mon)23:33 No.13144289
    "Yes, lower ranking members in the north, on the campaign I mentioned to you when I last dined with you and Kaitlyn. And again in Morwaynes slave drivers." you reply, hoping for more information on Morwayne.

    "They turned him as well then. I expect a new house banner soon then. I do wonder how they did it though, as the bastard seems to have taken the best knowledge out of the rest of my family and gifted it to Ranulf. Surprising, as all Morwayne ever aimed for was worldly holdings, and that is clearly not this cults endgame." the turncloak replies, falling in to step with you as you go to write some letters "Oh, and I also jhave my letter for father, if you would be so good as to send it. The sooner I am thought dead to house Stant the better."
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/13/10(Mon)23:34 No.13144299
    rolled 88 = 88

    Well to be fair, the 2nd Praetorian is our father-like figure. So, him noticing is like praising his son, granted, it's like the VP praising his son if he was the head of the NSA for catching a terrorist plotting another 9/11.

    We should warn him. Tell him to start looking for signs. The cultist symbols, see if he knows about the Lord Sons or whatever they were called by Khalless. I seriously doubt that all the higher-ups in the Empire know NOTHING of this. Sure some, like the tribunal or whatever it's called didn't believe in elementalism, but surely, our, for all intensive purposes, adoptive father will listen to reason.
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/13/10(Mon)23:35 No.13144316

    Recitation: "Certainly. Would you mind terribly if I gave it a once-over though?"
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/13/10(Mon)23:36 No.13144323
    That's true that our own soldiers and engineers can make the wagons, but we'll still need draft horses or oxen to pull them.

    I also support having Degrain design portable bridges for rapid fording of rivers.

    Shall we have one of the captured noble guards take the letter to Stant? And perhaps have a Shade tail him to find out where Lord Stant really is?
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)23:39 No.13144358



    We're building our carts out of wood, they're going to be buoyant.

    We either build them to act like amphibious APCs or we can float them together and chain them up to be a pontoon bridge.
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/13/10(Mon)23:39 No.13144360

    Correction: Justinian has no previous affiliation with the 2nd Praetorian. Our former mentor was a high-ranking hero commander whom left it in his will that Justinian be sent to commander camp.

    >captcha: respect respects
    what the fuck, captcha?
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)23:39 No.13144365
    "Has Lord Stant essentially ignored what his heir and his family have been doing to the rest of you? Or has Lord Stant been ensnared by their machinations as well? I'm wondering if that's why he disappeared."

    I want to say this but at the same time, it's showing we don't trust him... If we do ask him, we need a really smooth means of getting him to allow us to look at it.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)23:40 No.13144379
    We can't really let him be the one to write/send letters... he could still be a traitor, after all. Any letter supposedly from us has to actually be from us. So read his, if it's adequate reword it before sending in case there's some sort of hidden message.

    Or is that too paranoid?

    Anyway, on Jayne: My impression was that her house was the only one with decent giant bear cavalry. How is she going to get reinforcements? We already recruited all her trainees; giant bears only breed so fast.

    I'm pretty sure we bought a huge supply train when we headed out for this mission. But we can double-check, I guess.

    We can probably have our expert engineer whip up some sort of rapid bridge-building mechanism. Not quite as good, but it's something.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)23:45 No.13144436
    Uh, not really dude. Our father figure was a legendary general who is dead. The 2nd is just some guy we work for. You are mixing people up.

    No offense to Pax, but it honestly seems like our opposition forces are geared to be slightly better than us at everything we do anyway. Don't you think? Even when we have overwhelming advantages we get our shit packed until people want to quit, then magically it all gets better. I'm of the opinion that if we took fewer forces we would be in exactly the same tactical situation just with more money for the strategic stuff. In real life I would say yes, that was a good call.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/13/10(Mon)23:46 No.13144450
    "And your father?" you ask, not willing to believe that all of this could go on inside ones own home without a man noticing.

    "Was as fooled as the rest of us when Cleophas arrived. I learned all of my craft from him, and have confidence that he will remain in control until his natural end. More likely than not he will find cause to remove his blessing from the wedding before long." Janos answers, nodding when you pause in your motion to open the letter. It is a simple, heartfelt apology, and statement of what you wished the note to convey, nothing more, nothing less. You nod in approval. "Do you need me for anything else? I must see your smith about a masked helm before we set out."
    >> 風林火山 12/13/10(Mon)23:48 No.13144477

    "We will need to meet again to discuss your work in the capital and things that we will require you to do when you get there. For now though, there is nothing. If you need anything to conduct funeral prayers, let my men know."
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/13/10(Mon)23:49 No.13144483

    Statement: "That will be all for now, friend. I have some more business to attend to myself. A commander's job is never done."
    >> Maximus 12/13/10(Mon)23:50 No.13144497
    "One last question - do you know what those crystals were that we found during our last battle? Beyond that, eventually we will need to plan our operation on how to bypass the fort and cross the river. Start refreshing yourself on what you remember since the intel you can provide will be critical."
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/13/10(Mon)23:50 No.13144503
    >I'm of the opinion that if we took fewer forces we would be in exactly the same tactical situation just with more money for the strategic stuff.
    Using that logic, we should never hire mercenaries, because our encounters/battles will always be appropriate for our current maniple strength.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)23:51 No.13144511
    >Anyway, on Jayne: My impression was that her house was the only one with decent giant bear cavalry. How is she going to get reinforcements? We already recruited all her trainees; giant bears only breed so fast.

    In the entire empire? Impossible. There is no way her house could have survived this long without a way to replenish after a campaign. Just look at the average losses! 50%+ every campaign! There are doubtless plenty of places that breed Uursan and train riders for them.
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/13/10(Mon)23:51 No.13144522
    rolled 37 = 37

    "Hmmm, that might not bode well for your father then."

    Pax, who was our father-like figure? I just remember it having it to do with the 2nd Praetorian or something. I don't feel like going back to the first thread ><
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)23:53 No.13144541
    Yes, but now that I said something about it if we did that then Pax would slap us down. Whereas before I mentioned it I imagine our forces would have been 'just enough' for the job. I've seen it a lot, and it's pretty common in even mainstream stuff... just think of games like Oblivion with leveled NPCs. Same idea.
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/13/10(Mon)23:55 No.13144571
    >We either build them to act like amphibious APCs or we can float them together and chain them up to be a pontoon bridge.
    Yes, that's another reason to have more wagons. We'll also need to transport the planks to become the bridge.

    Even if we have a large supply train with lots of wagons, those wagons are need to carry our supplies.
    I'm saying that we will need more wagons, and the beasts to pull them, so that our troops can ride to the place of battle and be fresh, while the enemy soldiers have to march there like a bunch of chumps and be tired.
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/13/10(Mon)23:57 No.13144587
    rolled 26 = 26

    Ah, to refute your statement, remember our first campaign? I advocated taking a troop of the lizard-folk just so it would look good to the nobles and other lizard-folk in the area that we were letting them stay out of combat because of the cold. Pax quickly stated we might regret doing that due to the fact that we would be down about 1/10th of our forces?
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:00 No.13144633
    So? You just made a terrible argument. "The DM is not fixing his rolls behind the screen because he says he isn't!" is stupid. Of course he will say that. Indeed, sometimes you need to game the rolls to make something harder or easier. But I've been having the niggling suspicion that it has been constant for a while now.

    And once again, no insult to Pax by saying this. He runs a good quest, and it's a completely viable way to run a game and make sure the players are always challenged. I just don't like it, personally.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/14/10(Tue)00:00 No.13144636
    >2nd praetorian was one of your father-figures closest friends
    >you seem to have backed me into a not commenting on it position, but I _AM_ trying to improve my skills as a GM so, I apologize for any terribadness.

    "That will be all for now" you reply, dismissing him. You sit down to write your letter to the second praetorian. Considering the nature of this group, it may not be wise to circulate amongst the ranks that you know of their Resistance. After Sending off Aquila, you have two issues that need to be dealt with, interrogation, and how you will deliver your letters to Lord Stant.

    >roll for interrogation and tell me what your fishing for.
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/14/10(Tue)00:03 No.13144665
    rolled 90 = 90

    rolling, ask about the symbols, and where Lord Stant is or might be, or was headed, and what happened to the Valks.
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)00:03 No.13144667
    rolled 97 = 97

    Want to know where Lord Stant went and what reason as well as if Morwayne left with him or not."
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)00:04 No.13144671
    Well then... The dice are back to hating us. Someone botch roll.
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/14/10(Tue)00:04 No.13144672
    rolled 66 = 66


    And it still coincides that Justinian is just really shitty at interrogating people......
    >> 風林火山 12/14/10(Tue)00:04 No.13144676

    Anddd there goes the botch. No point wasting it.
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)00:04 No.13144681
    Wrong. Justinian is good at interrogating women. When it comes to men? Not so much. Even /tg/ dice wants Justinian to be a ladies man.
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/14/10(Tue)00:05 No.13144683
    So what's your position now?
    Spend no more on extra equipment and mercs when we're about to embark on an assault into the Uurlanthi homelands, hoping that the encounters will be scaled accordingly so we will never be overwhelmed?
    Or go about this as Justinian Trentz, pimpin' tactical genius, would do, and get the logistical support and unexpected tactical mobility that a dragoon force would give him.
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/14/10(Tue)00:05 No.13144686
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    Declaration: LET THE /tg/ DICE BEGIN!
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:07 No.13144717
    Nah Pax, I love your quest and am here every night for it. It's not meant as an insult or anything like that, I was just calling it like I saw it. I personally don't like "leveled encounters" but an enormous amount of people do. And truly, it's pretty bogus when you are in a sandbox universe and the players make you go "Well, you're walking along the road and a dragon eats you." because they didn't take obvious hints. That's a strong motivation for having them fight kobolds at level 1 and gradually move up into dragonslaying, and the inns and job boards of towns only having quests that the heroes can solve.

    Basically, it's not an issue of terribad or anything like that. It's just an issue of preference. And I think you are doing a good job, even if scaling difficulty is not my favorite way for a game to run. Keep up the good work!
    >> Pompieus the Butcher 12/14/10(Tue)00:10 No.13144738
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    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:10 No.13144741
    Justinian is not just good at interrogating women, he's amazing at it. They can't resist him.

    Men, on the other hand... that he sucks at.
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/14/10(Tue)00:11 No.13144753
    rolled 77 = 77

    Well, to be honest, this encounter wasn't.... Only reason we did well was because of better planning and amazing dice rolls. Remember that like, "10 or something" when the valks were coming towards us? That and we had the advantage of Blackweek + siege weapons last fight against the elven archer/artillery. Those things tore us apart in fights on even ground.
    >> 風林火山 12/14/10(Tue)00:12 No.13144760

    And the 1, 1, 20. We'll never see anything like that again.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:13 No.13144771
    Loaded question if I ever heard it.

    But I already said it as plainly as I can.

    1. We would have been fine because encounters were scaled.
    2. Since the scaling has been pointed out, they won't be scaled now and we have to prepare normally.
    3. The point is now moot and we have to play it hardcore like we can die at anytime, which is why I tried to get us to save early on without just coming out and saying DUDE HE SCALES THE ENCOUNTERS STOP WASTING CASH.

    Oh well.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:15 No.13144795
    You make my head hurt. Think what you want, dude. You obviously will anyway and I don't want to clutter up the thread further explaining to you why you are wrong. Can we please get back to CQ now? Sandbox or Scaled, I just want to get on with this mess.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/14/10(Tue)00:16 No.13144801
    You try to drag information out of a parade of prisoners, all to no effect. One even goes as far as to spit "I know banners are hard for you dragons to understand, but honest, all of us civilized folk have them.". You make very little progress on Lord Stants whereabouts, most of the men laugh at your questions.

    Eventually, you walk from the pens to scream in frustration at the laws. What you wouldnt give to gut the lot of them. "Your actually rather fetching when you get frustrated." a familiar voice teases from behind you "Maybe if you had a bribe things would go over better." Jayne finishes, pecking you on the cheek as she passes to the stables.

    >roll again, you'll get a bonus if you have a bribe to offer (hint, you need someone to deliver messages)
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/14/10(Tue)00:17 No.13144808
    rolled 27 = 27

    I guess we can just assume that interrogating prisoners slipped Justinian's mind or something. I am still wondering though, what the hell happened to the Valkeries?
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)00:18 No.13144815
    Someone else can roll...

    Same but I don't think we're going to find out until it hurts us.
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/14/10(Tue)00:19 No.13144825
    rolled 88 = 88

    Well, we can take my first roll, didn't see that post. :D

    Um, we could promise them to be allowed to go and return to their homes.
    >> 風林火山 12/14/10(Tue)00:19 No.13144827
    rolled 93 = 93


    Let one of them go free to pass the letter. Preferably one of Gaerick's bodyguards if they're still alive.

    They can tell Big Strant what happened.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:19 No.13144830
    rolled 57 = 57

    Please tell me we're using that roll.
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/14/10(Tue)00:19 No.13144838
    rolled 68 = 68

    I hope so, because my 88 is laughable......
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:19 No.13144839
    I assumed that was already on the table. Tell us what's going on and you get to go free is a standard interrogation tactic. Especially if you don't take the ones you interrogate back to the pens (even if they don't tell you anything) and for the rest of them keep saying "I've already heard the story from several of the men, and I want confirmation. If you confirm the story they told me about Stant's whereabouts then you go free. If you lie, you go back into the cages."
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:20 No.13144842
    So, newcomer to these threads, can anyone give me a briefing on the setting? (I'm... too lazy to read through thirty plus archived threads....)
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/14/10(Tue)00:20 No.13144846
    rolled 79 = 79

    Try again, with the bribe that the person who speaks will be chosen to take Janos' last letter to Lord Stant.
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/14/10(Tue)00:21 No.13144856
    rolled 78 = 78

    You There! Levi swordsman! (they were crap and are no threat anyway)

    I could do well, having, lets say, 2-3 men deliver a letter for me, safety on the roads in numbers of course. Course, what can you, offer me?
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/14/10(Tue)00:22 No.13144875
    rolled 47 = 47

    You will learn nothing if you do not read the threads and be on the edge of your chair all the way.

    Also /tg dice, show some mercy.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:22 No.13144877
    Then you are too lazy to participate, right? Why bother if you don't want to read the quest in the first place?
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/14/10(Tue)00:25 No.13144905
    rolled 55 = 55

    Don't be so harsh to the new comer man.

    Roman themed empire is what we are under. Odd power structure compared to Rome, but it is slightly similar. Arcane, Elementalism, and Mysticism is extremely rare and valuable, however, at the turning of the age, they are being found more and more. Also, the deities of this universe range widely, and are reminiscent of Norse mythology in my opinion but they were quiet and dormant until recently apparently. (think a few centuries, maybe more, might not be remembering correctly)
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/14/10(Tue)00:26 No.13144910

    Answer: This is Fantasy Rome. There are elves, lizardmen, dwarfs, cat people, giant eagles, and BEAR CAVALRY. We play the role of Justinian Trentz, commander of the X-V-III maniple, and all-around super pimp. Ladies swoon with but a wave of his hand.

    Also, magic had been dead for a long time, but is starting to come back. The gods as well.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:27 No.13144919

    We need to check ALL of our prisoners for any of those glyphs/tattoos we've seen lately or with Kallthes's ilk.

    If we find any, I vote we interrogate them and then put them to the sword. Perhaps allow Janos to attempt "interrogation" on a few if he likes.
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)00:29 No.13144938
    Man, why do /tg/ dice hate us so much tonight?
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/14/10(Tue)00:30 No.13144948
    I agree with that, though I doubt that we'll find any in the footsloggers.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/14/10(Tue)00:30 No.13144959
    You pull one of Gaericks bodyguards aside. "Would I be correct in assuming that you wish revenge on Lady Cleophas for her bastards minions actions?" the man nods, eying you suspiciously. "What would you do for an opportunity to take that revenge?" you press.

    "I'd answer some questions, assuming that your opportunity is better than a chance to join your damned empire." he replies, cautiously.

    "NO, no. You see, I need a man to deliver some missives to Lord Stant. I have much apologizing to do, as one of his sons is to be tried for war crimes, and likely executed, and the second died under my protection as a prisoner. Answer my questions and I will send you, and two more of Gaericks surviving guards to deliver the letters." you propose.

    "Ask away then." the guard replies, straightening his bloodstained tunic.

    "I need to know where it is Lord Stant went, where the other Valkerie knights flew off to, and where the slave-drivers came from." you reply bluntly, pacing in front of the man.

    "My masters Lord went to recruit mercenaries and deal with domestic matters. Morwayne sent the Valkerie knights away the night before your assault, said if we kept them around you would find some way to kill them. Holed up in his tent after doing that. The slavers were a gift from Cleophas and Bruck to Morwayne before we left on the campaign. He never used'em until he did against you... didnt even know what they were trained for until a few months back. Anything else you want to know, or can I head out now?"
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/14/10(Tue)00:34 No.13145002
    Observation: Interesting. So the Valk knights are still out there somewhere. They must have been severely demoralized after their failed assault on our front gate.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:34 No.13145003
    I'm fairly interested, but daunted by the archives. Might have an idea or two, a few questions, but otherwise will probably just follow along.

    Awesome, thanks. What is our Romesque Empire composed of? Mainly humans, humans and others, or are the other races always allies/auxilliaries?

    And please tell me we aren't heading into Teutoburg forest.
    >> 風林火山 12/14/10(Tue)00:34 No.13145020

    Anything else guys?

    Else just impress on him to hand those letters to noone but Big Stant and just tell him to watch out for those traitors.

    We should arm them before they leave and give them back their mounts.
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/14/10(Tue)00:35 No.13145026
    rolled 2 = 2

    "What were those domestic matters, and, if i might ask, Would it really be so bad to join my empire?"
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:35 No.13145032
    You must have known Morwayne, tell me, had he changed recently? Such as around the start of the campaign? And what does the bastard look like?
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/14/10(Tue)00:36 No.13145034
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    >MFW 2
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)00:36 No.13145040
    "Did Bruck join the front lines at some point or did he remain behind in your lands? Did Morwayne begin acting odd during the campaign at any point or was he the same as always?"
    >> I-C003-IN 12/14/10(Tue)00:37 No.13145053
    rolled 81 = 81

    You are rolling for tonight..

    test roll
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/14/10(Tue)00:37 No.13145058
    >Humans, dwarves and lizzardmen (Lacerta).
    >I've been throwing up my CQ email at the end of the most recent threads, so if you shoot me one I'll send you the synopsis
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/14/10(Tue)00:37 No.13145063
    "The Morwayne that I fought in battle last night was a body double, another of Lady Cleophas' minions.
    "Did Lord Morwayne seem to be acting...odd, at any time during the campaign? I wish to know if I've been fighting the real Morwayne Stant, or if he's been replaced and possibly dead."

    Let's let that suspicion seep into the guard's mind.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:37 No.13145064
    How many of Gaerick's bodyguards survived to be taken prisoner?

    "Have you seen any others bearing the mark of Cleophas or Bruck's men among my prisoners?"
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/14/10(Tue)00:40 No.13145096

    Statement: Mostly humans, however there are some elves, less lizardmen, and many dwarfs here are exiles from their own nation.

    Currently, our mission is to wait for reinforcements before side-stepping an enemy-occupied fort and heading into their territory to raise some hell.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:45 No.13145166
    Finally managed to finish reading the older threads. This has been excellent so far.

    Also, I remember it being said that having more than 5 or so in your retinue was considered only for cowardly or old commanders. How many do we have with us right now? I'm worried that the other commanders will start to look down on us for having so many.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/14/10(Tue)00:47 No.13145186
    "Has morwayne been acting, normally of late? If not I would like to know when the change happened, it is not Morwayne I laid low at the end of the last battle, but a body double. I would also like to know if any of Cleophas and Brucks men are among my other prisoners, and what exactly the 'domestic matters' you mentioned are." you reply, glad to find such a cooperative prisoner to interrogate for once.

    "Morwayne was acting odd from when he inspected the Valkerie knights the other day, then sent them back to Cloudreach. He claimed to know your mind when he positioned us, nearly came to blows with Gaerick over the matter, and the two have always been nigh inseperable. No, none of the Wnech and her bastards men ever alow themselves to be taken alive, some sort of arcana they have that makes it so. And I do believe that the domestic matters have to do with Cleophas and Bruck, to be honest." the man replies, looking eager to get going, but srill willing to play along.

    >18 noble guards between the two men, 3 of Gaericks, 15 of Morwaynes
    >> I-C003-IN 12/14/10(Tue)00:50 No.13145235
    rolled 13 = 13

    Its kind of hard to call us cowards when we've been fighting from the front the whole time and most of the time our retinue are working with other units rather than beside us.

    seconding these
    >> 風林火山 12/14/10(Tue)00:52 No.13145250

    Release the 3. Do we have our letter written?

    Question to my fellow fa/tg/uys, should we release a few of Morwayne's men too (1-2)?
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/14/10(Tue)00:53 No.13145264
    Recitation: "Last question, I promise. There have been some men with perculiar and very specific tattoos found amongst the dead of your camp. Are they with Cleophas?"
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:53 No.13145273
    Tell all three we believe the bastard behind the killing of Gaerick, and show them the note and dagger, as well as the breastplates of the slavers and the tattoo on the mystic.

    "You may believe as you want, but you all saw this knife and the letter planted on your charge's body when he was killed. You were there. You know it was an assassination.

    It is a slight on my honor that he died when he was supposed to be taken prisoner, and indeed... I will stand to benefit from killing this bastard as well. I tell you all this truthfully, because we all have the same desire for different reasons. Your is revenge for your dead lord, mine is revenge for the slight on my honor as well as removal of a powerful foe. I will give you all the best equipment I am able and sent you home. I wish you luck in slaying the traitorous fool who killed your master and slighted me."
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/14/10(Tue)00:54 No.13145278
    rolled 21 = 21

    "I'll have one more question for you, i just need to get someone first."

    Get Laelith!
    Ask the man, What Did The Wench Look Like. Laelith would know what the escaped other wife (who i've been calling The Widow) looks like. provided she hasnt changed her appearance, we have a sure-fire connection, and what abilities we're up against.
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)00:54 No.13145282
    Interesting. It's possible one of the valk knights was one of their minions and they took Morwayne back with them if he only started acing odd then. And if Stant is gone to deal with domestic matters, then I don't think we have to worry about his mercenaries anymore since Cloudreach is on the other side of the continent.

    "You had crystals deployed on the field of battle. What did they do and how do they work?" Beyond that, I can't think of anything guys. Maybe just remind him he should tell Lord Stant the truth of what happened to Gaerick for the benefit of Lord Stant's house.
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/14/10(Tue)00:54 No.13145285
    I think we should release 1 or two, so that their testimony that their leader was a body double and that he was replaced can hold more weight in Stant's eyes.
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/14/10(Tue)00:54 No.13145289

    NO. We do not know if they'd take the chance to fuck with this plan or not.
    >> I-C003-IN 12/14/10(Tue)00:55 No.13145296
    rolled 38 = 38

    I say we question them directly before we decide and inform them that their commander wasn't in the last battle but a body double
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:55 No.13145306

    Get her description, quick!
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/14/10(Tue)00:57 No.13145336
    Which plan are you talking about?
    Having Stant told that one of his sons was replaced with a body double, by said son's bodyguard, could only help the case against Cleophas and her bastard son.
    If that bastard is getting help from the Sycophant, then we'll want him weakened fighting Stant as much as possible before we crucify him ourselves.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)00:58 No.13145347
    We should NOT release any of Morwayne's men. They could be spies for all we know. Mystic spies.
    >> 風林火山 12/14/10(Tue)00:59 No.13145358

    I think he means morowayne may be in on the scheme as well and if he is, so will his men.

    They might kill those whom we set free.

    In any case it's probably too great a risk. Lets just free those whom we agreed to.
    >> I-C003-IN 12/14/10(Tue)01:00 No.13145363
    rolled 61 = 61

    ... I just thought of something and while its most likely paranoia I say we should have Lena look at Janos as if he is a double as well she would easily see it.
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/14/10(Tue)01:00 No.13145368
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    A reason why i decided to release more then one
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:01 No.13145375
    Or would she?

    We also really need to translate that tome on Mysticism. Both to find out if we can learn it without turning into an insane ugly freak and to find out what they can do.
    >> I-C003-IN 12/14/10(Tue)01:04 No.13145405
    rolled 87 = 87

    Quite true but she is the most likely to see through a disguise due in large part to the fact that she sees things differently than we do.
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/14/10(Tue)01:05 No.13145412
    Possible, but according to Gaerick's guard, Gaerick and Morwayne were nearly inseparable. Would Morwayne really have abided the assassination of his dear brother?

    Also, now that we know the enemy has mind-reading mystics, we need to prioritize the translation of the tome on mysticism, and will need to operate under the assumption that the enemy will know the general outline of our plans, if not the details.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:06 No.13145423
    That's a good point. Khalless was a blue insane dwarf who used earth elementalism. We are an earth elementalist without being a blue insane dwarf. It could be that not all mystics are like that and we can learn it just fine. Or maybe only those with sufficient will can control it without going insane and becoming hideous monsters... and Justinian Trentz has balls of steel and a will to match.

    We should also see what Laelith knows about it.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:06 No.13145432
    You can abide all kinds of things when you are mind controlled.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:08 No.13145446
    or a corpse
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/14/10(Tue)01:11 No.13145482

    I was going to suggest this as well.
    >> Laurentius 12/14/10(Tue)01:11 No.13145485
    Okay anyone else think that Morowayne left with the Valk knights and left the body double to die in battle?
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/14/10(Tue)01:12 No.13145491
    Alright, fine. We'll keep Morwayne's guards locked up with the others, and release all of Gaerick's guards.
    We should probably outfit them with their old gear; they'll need it to get past their own lines into Uurlanth territory and into the Stant holdings.
    I hope we spark off a civil war in Uurlanth; it'll make our job of pillaging and plundering a lot easier.
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/14/10(Tue)01:13 No.13145505

    Statement: This runtime finds it more likely that "The Bastard" slew Morwayne the night before and sent the corpse off with the valk knights.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/14/10(Tue)01:17 No.13145556
    "One more question, the crystals that were placed in the trap fields behind your last camp. What was their function? And could you describe Cleophas to me, she may be an old foe of mine as well." you ask the man before setting him on his way.

    the man sighs "The crystals are detection devices, they screech terribly when anything other than the one who placed them passes within 50 paces, though they can be tempermental. Cleophas is of age with the noblewoman in your force, by my estimate. She is short, not much taller than the abnormally tall dwarf that defeated my master. she is not slim, but not plump either, with gray eyes and brown hair." you thank the man and send him and his companions on their way.

    You find Laelith sitting at her desk, tome open near the middle on a book stand, a blank tome at the same page before her, in which she is clearly and neatly writing in. "Justinian" she greets you without turning around "How can I help you?"
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/14/10(Tue)01:17 No.13145557
    Either way, Morwayne's loyalties are currently suspect, and we can't trust his guards to not attempt to kill Gaerick's guards, right?

    Let's get those guards under way, and begin preparing our wagons/pontoon bridges.
    And I'm still for buying the beasts we need from Flumenos to pull those wagons so that our entire maniple can ride into battle.

    Finally, have we received any word from Commander Nomz about what kind of support he needs from us, and the composition of the enemy force he is facing?
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/14/10(Tue)01:18 No.13145564
    rolled 4 = 4

    Erm.....where is Pax?
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/14/10(Tue)01:19 No.13145579
    rolled 85 = 85

    Ah sorry, there you are.
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/14/10(Tue)01:20 No.13145587
    "Hello Laelith. I was wondering if any progress has been made with the tomes I asked Finian to ask you about, specifically the one on mysticism.
    "Also, I need to know something. Do these descriptions [repeat the description of Cleophas] sound familiar to you?"
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/14/10(Tue)01:21 No.13145597
    rolled 44 = 44

    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/14/10(Tue)01:24 No.13145627
    rolled 48 = 48

    But before this, lets question her about this book, a Journal from the look of it. If only to flesh her out a little more.

    and lets not forget outfiting the nobleknights with their old gear (horses? should we give them three? Likely got a nice big new batch from everything.
    We must have a massive armory now as well, should we let the ranged troops other than the crossbows have the composite bows or longbows from the elves?
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)01:24 No.13145628
    Eventually we need to move in to complimenting the hell out of her for her actions in the last battle. She did wipe out quite a few guys on her own despite the danger she almost put herself in.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:25 No.13145643
    Crap, we need to get her out of her tent. Hmmm.

    Talk to her about teaching Lena to read, and then ask her to go speak with the girl and test it out then report the results back to us tomorrow. Perfect excuse to get her out of the tent and enact our fiendish plan.
    >> girder 12/14/10(Tue)01:25 No.13145645
    Ask her about the book and about Cleophas.

    While giving her a back massage.

    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)01:26 No.13145656
    Oh right. She has the rod we took from the fake Morwayne. We must pump her for information on that item.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:26 No.13145664
    Ah right, we need to give her a serious hugging, kissing, and scolding for that.

    So it goes like this:
    1. Give her the description.
    2. Ask her about mystics.
    3. Embrace and kiss her then scold her for doing something so dangerous. She would have gotten herself killed if not for Sansa.
    4. Tell her about Lena and send her off, then steal her robes.

    Any objections?
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:28 No.13145684
    >3. Embrace and kiss her then scold her for doing something so dangerous. She would have gotten herself killed if not for Sansa.
    That should be item 1 and how we open the conversation. Afterward we can settle back down and ask questions.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:31 No.13145723
    She wiped out quite a few guys... but didn't she also completely throw the plan (have her put out torches) to the wind like a complete maverick who hadn't discussed a unified strategy at all?

    I'm all for individual badasshood, but not when we have a specific and very important job for someone to do and they throw it aside to go kill a few dozen enemy guys who would have been taken care of anyway.
    >> girder 12/14/10(Tue)01:32 No.13145726
    I can get behind that.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:32 No.13145732
    >She would have gotten herself killed if not for Sansa.
    Good to see our harem bonding and looking out for each other, though.
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/14/10(Tue)01:32 No.13145733
    We also need to ask her about the crystal rod she got off the body of the Morwayne-double.
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)01:34 No.13145757
    Sometimes people improvise. She may of not followed the plan but she pretty much collapsed that flank early on on her own and taking out the torches wouldn't of been huge since their units were cut down rather quick beyond the noble bodyguard. Don't be too harsh since we don't want to stop them from ever taking the initiative if the situation calls for it.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:35 No.13145781
    We give our commanders a lot of leeway to change orders on the fly if it looks like a much better option presents itself. It helped us a lot in the battle with Khalless, for instance.

    That said, we really should tell her that what she did was reckless and we don't want her to endanger herself like that. She needs to understand that if she died on the battlefield it would hurt us, and while we understand that there is always a chance that she could... she shouldn't go around painting a target on herself like that.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/14/10(Tue)01:43 No.13145851
    You describe Cleophas to her "Does this accurately describe Khaless' widow?" you ask plainly.

    "No, not in the least. Politicking was something she always attempted to avoid at that." Laelith responds, turning both pages.

    "So, your sure that there is no connection aside from the cult tattoos?" you ask, working your hands into her shoulders.

    "Th... that isnt fair" she complains, her head lolling back from the massage "and yes, aside from that there is nothing. If you were wondering about the rod, it was a mystics focus. Without it glamors become nigh impossible. Now that we have it its nothing but a plethora of gems to sell." she replies, happily

    "Thats good too hear, and I'm glad that I'm able to ease this tension from you. Facing down eighty some armed men must have been daunting." you reply, finding a good sized knot to work on.

    "Not at all. I was made to face worse during my travels with Khalless." she replies plainly

    "Regardless of your past, were it not for Sansa I could have lost you then..." you chide Laelith, pulling her chair back from the desk "You dont need to be so reckless, Laelith." you continue, sitting next to her, clasping her hands in yours "You should trust that one of us will help you when you need it."

    Laeliths face shows some conflict, as if a law she has long lived by is being called into question. "I... I will be more careful..." she finally replies, her shoulders slumping ever so slightly.

    "Good" you reply, pulling her into a hug. after a few moments you place a kiss on her scarred cheek "Now, do you think you are ready to begin instructing Lena on reading this tome you are deciphering?" you ask, hopeful.

    "I'm only to the middle of it, but new readers are seldom fast readers. I should be able to start today and stay ahead." she replies

    >let her go now, or do you have something else for her?
    >> No Gods or Devils, Only Mortals 12/14/10(Tue)01:44 No.13145868
    Agreement with these two.
    We trust our captains to adapt to changing circumstances on the fly, and to modify our greater plan as necessary to shifting battlefield conditions.

    That said, yes, we were very worried about Laelith making herself into a huge target like that.
    >> 風林火山 12/14/10(Tue)01:47 No.13145901

    Stealing her robe~
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:47 No.13145902
    We had her on the torches not only because of the enemy units that we cut down, but also because their presence near us exposed our entire front line to killer elven archer fire. If we hadn't killed as many elves as we did in our initial volleys, or if they'd been more coordinated than they were (read: worse rolls for us) our line could have been decimated by more of their super-precise doom arrows. Laelith was SUPPOSED to be a solid second line of protection for literally hundreds of our men's lives, and instead she decided to go torch people for fun. And to light up the battlefield when we were relying on darkness.

    So fuck her initiative, in this case she's supposed to do her JOB. If our plan was falling apart, we were in desperate straits, and she thought she could hold things together with a bit of rash action, that's one thing. Completely ignoring the plan from the very beginning of the battle when nothing's gone wrong at all? That's unprofessional and actively screwing over both our authority and our army. That's demotion-level stuff on anyone actually replaceable. We should NOT be saying that it's okay.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:47 No.13145904
    What does she know about mystics? Do they always become abominations? And if not or she doesn't know... when will the tome on Mysticism be translated?
    >> girder 12/14/10(Tue)01:49 No.13145923
    Has Finian talked to her about those tomes, yet?
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:51 No.13145947
    I'll agree to this. It was a foolish action on her part and she should have stuck to the plan. We should say that at the debriefing, but give her a heads up that we will be calling her out about it right now. Just so she doesn't feel abandoned or picked on. Tell her that we appreciate it, but we really needed that battlefield dark rather than lit up.

    Also, what was that super-bright light around Sansa?
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)01:53 No.13145966
    I'm not saying she should be allowed to do whatever the hell she wants and you're right at how it could of cost us a lot but at the same time, her lighting up the field like that likely distracted the hell out of their archers and she took out a chunk of their mercenaries. Should she of done what we wanted? Yes, although I'm assuming part of why she didn't was bad command rolls on our part and all. Should we tell her to never change plans on the fly depending on the situation and only listen to our plans? I wouldn't agree there but you I do see what you mean.

    I just don't think we should be so harsh as to stop her from ever doing her own thing in battle. Her doing her own actions in battle has helped us before like when we fought Khalless near the end and she torched one of their entire barricades if I remember right.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)01:54 No.13145972
    Make sure that we don't say it harshly or anything, just in a tone that we are advising her for the future. Explain why we were lucky and why we needed the torches out, and give her another hug to show that it's okay and everything went fine... just bear it in mind for next time.

    Then when she leaves steal them. Steal them all.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/14/10(Tue)02:01 No.13146031
    "What do you know of mysticism, aside from the side effects? Are they a given?" you ask her, releasing the elf from your grasp.

    "A skilled mystic can create glamors about himself and others, as well as read, and sometimes even controll minds. Would you like me to translate one of the tomes on that topic after the book for Lena is finsihed?"

    "Yes I would. And the side effects?" you reply, hoping that they arent universal.

    "They touch all to some extent, though the madness is mere perception. Most agree that with time the urge to tell people their thoughts, or act on them before they are taken becomes too great to resist. To the mystic, everything they do makes pcomplete sense, though what the rest of the world sees is clearly a madman." she explains patiently, not looking away from you.

    "While I am grateful for your actions, I will need to reprimand you for the way you went against the plan in the last battle, I'm afraid." you inform the elf, showing enough sadness to make sure she doesnt get the wrong message.

    "I, I understand. I simply... it seemed so much like before. On the battlefield, alone, a great number of armed and armored men rushing at me... I forgot myself, and I apologize." she confides, a haunted look in her eyes.
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)02:04 No.13146056
    "Always remember you're not alone anymore Laelith. You have friends here who care for you and I sure as hell wouldn't abandon you. Never forget what you've gained and how you've changed."
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:04 No.13146059
    D'awww. D'awwwwwwwwww.

    Give her a long hug and tell her that time is over, we promise. She need never fear that again. If she ever does feel like that... tell her to come to us. We'll always listen to her, no matter what her concern.

    Also, it seems that the lesions and disfigurement might not be a side effect. And the insanity... well, we could call it Complete Sanity rather than insanity. We should research it more before delving into it.
    >> girder 12/14/10(Tue)02:05 No.13146060
    Smile, lean in for kiss, etc.

    Then usher her to get to Lena so that Justinian can finally pull the prank he's been scheming for so long.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:06 No.13146074
    Embrace and tender kiss! Do it! Tell her she's not alone anymore.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:06 No.13146077
    >bad command rolls
    If our subcommanders will ignore our initial orders, made before the battle started, because they can't hear us shouting to remind them in the middle of the battle... then we should fire them and get new subcommanders.

    >Should we tell her to never change plans on the fly depending on the situation and only listen to our plans?
    There is a huge difference between that and "Hey, the battle just started... What was the plan again? Oh, it doesn't matter, I'll just throw as much fire as I can at the closest guys and everything will be great!"

    Our subcommanders should feel justified in discarding the plan or otherwise taking radical action if:
    -They gain information we don't have during the battle which they must act upon for the good of the maniple
    -Things start going horribly wrong and we are unable to give orders
    -The battle has dragged on long enough that the original plan is out of date and responses to changing circumstances are needed

    This was none of those. This was a turn one 'fuck your plan Justinian I have my own shit to do'.

    >I just don't think we should be so harsh as to stop her from ever doing her own thing in battle.
    Indeed we shouldn't.

    What we should do is be so harsh that she'll never do her own thing in battle WHEN WE HAVE TOLD HER TO DO SOMETHING ELSE VERY SPECIFIC. Initiative is fine and dandy until people stop following orders- then you don't have an army, you have a mob. Mobs have plenty of initiative, and it doesn't give them shit.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:09 No.13146094
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    Kiss the girl!
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)02:09 No.13146099
    Yeah I get you completely. I guess I just overreacted and assumed people would be all "ONLY DO WHAT I SAY EVER" but I guess Pax handled it well enough in the last post.
    >> girder 12/14/10(Tue)02:10 No.13146111
    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/14/10(Tue)02:18 No.13146175
    rolled 5 = 5

    I admit, I watched it, and I was smiling and felt giddy the entire way through. Damn you disney, not making quality like that anymore.
    >> Pax !uGYNBMPzOs 12/14/10(Tue)02:19 No.13146180
    You reach back over and wrap her in a tight embrace "You arent alone anymore, Laelith. And If I can help it you never will be again... whenever you feel like you did then, just come to me." you tell her, tenderly. She looks into your eyes, her face a few inches from yours.

    "I will." she whispers happily before you pull her into a deep kiss.

    When you finally break from her lips to breathe you smile "Now I fear that work becons us both away. You must start teaching Lena, and I have more administrative duties to see to." you tell Laelith as you ease from her embrace. She returns your warm smile, rises to take the translated tome and heads out into the camp.

    >I have my last calss of the semester tomorrow morning, so I'm gonna call it here for the night.
    > do you want me to start the next session with the stealing of Laeliths robes?
    >someone archive please
    >I'll be back wednesday at 9pm server time
    >setting/random-ass cq questions? email me at paxcomquest@yahoo.com (this setting is my life for the next moth and a half after all)
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:19 No.13146190
    Shit, I've watched it three times so far.

    Old Disney movies are awesome.
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/14/10(Tue)02:21 No.13146200
    First Kiss, Get.
    >> girder 12/14/10(Tue)02:21 No.13146202
    >do you want me to start the next session with the stealing of Laeliths robes?


    >> Gloquenteentleman !yVrZbEGJ8A 12/14/10(Tue)02:22 No.13146208
    rolled 69 = 69

    Damn Justinian's womanizing ways. I feel bad now. I think we are being a little TOO liberal with our womanizing ways....... I don't want a School Days scenario on our hands. For those of you who don't know that scenario, it's an ero-ge game and you basically play a Japanese high school equivalent of Justinian in his womanizing ways, and let me tell you, it doesn't end well. I think our head ends up in a bag and two of them are pregnant or some other......bad end is bad........
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:22 No.13146212
    > do you want me to start the next session with the stealing of Laeliths robes?
    Do it. Shit will be awesome. Make sure the sashes are all there still.
    >> girder 12/14/10(Tue)02:23 No.13146218
    Laid out on her cot, even.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:23 No.13146221
    Little chance of that seeing as the girls have a running BET going on who will marry us and who will be the concubines.

    Just saying.
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)02:25 No.13146234
    Thread archived. See you all Wednesday for potential doom or amusement if we do steal her robes. Hopefully we get a response form Nomz soon so we can help him out and keep our line from falling.

    A quick poll - who favors which girl at this point in this quest?
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:25 No.13146235
    But don't you want a nice boat?
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:28 No.13146250
    I'm a total Laelithfag.

    1. Laelith
    2. Sansa -tied-
    2. Jayne -tied-
    4. Kyria
    >> tactical routine omicron 12/14/10(Tue)02:28 No.13146253

    Answer: This runtime believes Jayne should be our actual wife, more for political reason than anything else. However, of the girls, our buxom dwarven lass is most desireable, with the rest being about equal.
    >> girder 12/14/10(Tue)02:29 No.13146262
    >A quick poll - who favors which girl at this point in this quest?

    Puhleze. We must do EACH of them justice, as is befitting an officer and a gentleman.

    That said, it seems like marrying Jayne would be most practical....unless of course we somehow manage to convince whoever is in charge of these things to allow Justinian to have multiple wives.
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)02:33 No.13146297
    Gonna be hard to really give them the justice they deserve if you're going for the political game. It basically stacks Jayne as your choice unless we somehow come across another female noble on our return to the capital. I suppose it is time we get introduced to new noble houses since I don't think Jayne will be able to join us on anymore campaigns after this.

    And I have to admit, Sansa has always been my favourite of the bunch.
    >> Servant of the Emperor 12/14/10(Tue)02:34 No.13146303
    I like Kyria, Jayne, Laelith, and then Sansa.
    I wonder if i should count Lena in because i asked for a Germanic blonde mage before she showed up...
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:36 No.13146312
    I agree with this pretty much because of Jayne being noble and all, but I would like for us to marry them all if possible. None being above the others and everything, we love them all.

    I like Laelith and Jayne the most I guess but they are all really awesome. If I had to go with just one I would say Laelith.
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)02:36 No.13146314
    Lena and Bellatrix seem to be out of the running since Wulf is going after Lena and Aurelius is going after Bellatrix. So unless they fall for us for some reason without us doing anything, they're a no go.
    >> girder 12/14/10(Tue)02:38 No.13146334
    Given that we're trying to become the 7th Praetorian, I'm not sure marrying for politics will be too much of a boon for us. I mean, it'll help, but probably not that much given the power a Praetorian already has.
    >> girder 12/14/10(Tue)02:39 No.13146344
    Y'know, regardless of preference, it's gonna be one hell of a family.
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)02:41 No.13146362
    Fair enough but that might take a damn long time to get that position. Convincing people in the Empire that the gods are back, without us fully devoting ourselves to a god and thus getting their divine gifts easier, is going to be difficult. So unless we get future boons soon and try to use them to prove the gods exist, the political marriage will be a feasible option just for advancing our career before we reach that level.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:41 No.13146366
    I don't know man, I get this protective urge about Belatrix. The man is swine. I still want Lena in our harem but everyone else wants to foster romance for everyone else. I'm fine with that, since we are virtually the walking incarnation of the Love Goddess on earth at this point and scoring major points with her. Think about it:

    1. Hooked up Cornelius and Jayne's Sister.
    2. Romancing 4 women, three of them with special conditions that would make the love goddess like us for doing so.
    3. Janos and his lovely bodyguard.
    4. Wulf and Lena.
    5. Belatrix's Folly. At some point we are likely going to need to intervene and help them out just because it's Aurelius.

    In short, we are well on our way to Goddess Waifu.

    What about you Maximus, who is your waifu?
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)02:46 No.13146413
    Mentioned it above but I've always been fond of Sansa myself. In regards to Belatrix, maybe we should let Aurelius do his thing. If any woman is going to put him in his place, I think it might be her. And while he may be a swine, this might help him grow a bit. And while you may want Lena in the harem, everyone else wanted to push Wulf on her. I personally could care less which way it goes. Maybe we'll just be so awesome that Belatrix and Lena will fall for us regardless of what we do.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:48 No.13146427
    When you put it like that, it seems Nyetini might be the one we are closest to rather than Raynha. Eh, maybe not. They are about equal really, it seems. Not that it matters since we aren't going to devote ourselves to any one, but it seems those two are the ones we are the biggest bros with.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:52 No.13146461
    Well, she's innocent, powerful, and never had much of a family other than her sister. I'm a sucker for damaged goods, which is why I favor Laelith. She also seems like she would make a devoted loving wife once she warms up. Basically, giving her love and a place to belong appeals to me.

    Also, the fact she is one of the few mages that exist once again in the world when they were rare even back in the old days... well, that's impressive.
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)02:55 No.13146483
    They you must fight for your dream of having Lena love Justinian. Heh. Although that might be hard convincing others to go along with it based on how many people wanted Wulf to end up with her. Still wondering what we should do with Wulf personally. Maybe we should send him to become a commander on his own after this campaign or two. Would be useful to have the commander of another maniple loyal to us when we're higher up.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:57 No.13146501
    Looks like we have a fairly solid spread for our waifu, then. I was under the impression Kyria was less represented, Laelith had more of a lead, and that Sansa had a couple more people.

    Still it turned out well. All the characters are loved, it seems.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)02:58 No.13146512
    I like Lena a lot and want her as a waifu, but I'm content with letting her be with Wulf if that's what everyone else wants. I already have the pet project of Goddess Waifu, I can't take on Lena too. Someone else will need to take up that banner.
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)03:05 No.13146556
    I honestly think Lena is more viable than the Goddess. And if Wulf does eventually go off to become a commander on his own, that might means Lena would want to follow her. And then Belatrix would go too. Hmm. That's potentially problematic.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)03:09 No.13146587
    Well of course the mortal woman is more viable than the goddess. But if anyone could get her it's Justinian Motherfucking Trentz.
    >> Maximus 12/14/10(Tue)03:12 No.13146608
    Heh. Fair enough. Ah well. We shall see what the future holds in regards to Lena and the Love Goddess.
    >> [TA] Weird !!guD1KNNr2Nl 12/14/10(Tue)03:22 No.13146677
    Sansa & Jayne. Not really clicked with Lealith and Kyria. Lena and Bella are... Still in consideration.

    How does Nyetini look like anyway? Let's try to contact her and ask her to help Janos' bid for a life for love.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)03:28 No.13146713
    Well, she's the goddess of beauty so I imagine she can look like just about anything you want. And we've already resolved not to beg favors from the gods. Contacting her to say what's up might be okay, though. It has been a while since we talked to her and while we told Raynha to convey our thanks for saving Laelith we should really try to do that in person.

    Also with all the romance, matchmaking, and slave saving going on I imagine she's pretty happy with us. And knowing that we plan to put temples devoted to her (and all the gods) back in order with our own funds when we get back to Dragonsreach will probably endear her even more.

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