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    29 KB Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:12 No.13062465  
    About a year ago, I jokingly proposed a ridiculous home-brew system in response to someone recommending the Tri-Stat system.

    Fast-forward to yesterday: I remembered the monostat system, thought of the perfect use for it, and fleshed it out a bit.

    Dare you face...
    ASPERGERS: The Misfittening
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)05:14 No.13062471
    ASPERGERS: The Misfittening

    The Misfittening is based on my idiotic Monostat(tm) system. The monostat in this system is General Competence(GC).

    You play a person with an autism spectrum disorder. This could range from self-diagnosed-aspergers-syndrome-but-really-just-an-asshole(10) to severe autism(1)

    All skillchecks are of a roll-under type, and will be made using your base General Compenence + skill and/or situational modifiers using 3d6. This applies to both to everyday tasks and combat, should you need to engage in it. Failing these checks will cause you to have a tantrum, or at least an awkward moment.
    Situational modifiers are applied by the storyteller/referee.

    You also have three linked stat modifiers:Compulsion, Obsession, and Sameness & Ritual.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:14 No.13062472
    They stop publishing Warhammer 40K, so this is going to fill that gap?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:14 No.13062473
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    Needs more Chris-chan.

    ...Did I really just say that? Oh god.
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)05:15 No.13062478
    Generating your Monostat: roll 1d10 and record your General Competence(GC) rating.

    A rough guide to how screwed you are;
    1-2 Severe Autism: You cannot interact in a normal fashion with other people, and will automatically fail a general competence roll unless you have specific skills in that area.
    3-5 High-functioning Autism: Given enough time and effort, you can sometimes deal with interruptions and strangers doing their strange things.
    6-8 Genuine Aspergers: Life is sometimes difficult , but when you stick to what you're good at, it goes really well.
    9+ Just an Asshole: You are a whiny spoiled bitch, but you tell people you have a condition in the hope they won't hate you as much.

    You must now generate your linked stat modifier(LSM). LSM = 10 - GC

    This value is applied to the following categories:
    Compulsion, Obsession, and Sameness &

    Compulsion - everyday things that must be done Just-So. Examples include ordering clothing by spectrum, closing all the doors, or having an even number of food-items on your plate.
    Obsession - Things you know too much about, or can do really, really well. Examples include seeking out and memorising every detail of every "Magic: the Gathering" card ever produced or being able to accurately play a piano concerto after only hearing it once,
    Sameness &
    Ritual - Things that MUST happen EVERY time. Examples include being out of bed by 7AM, dressing in exactly the same type and colour of clothing, or flushing the toilet 12 times before using it.

    Each of these categories get a number of specific skills equal to your LSM value. 50% of each set must be extremely specific, and 50% must be extremely general (these are rounded up, so for example if you got a 1, you take 1 general and 1 specific skill in each category.) None of them may relate directly to interpersonal interactions such as conversing in a reasonable manner or writing coherent prose.
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)05:16 No.13062486
    Whenever you wish to do something unusual you must make a general competence check. This can include (but is not limited to) talking to a stranger, going somewhere strange or doing something that you have never done before,

    When you must deal with a frustration you must pass a challenge. These include interruptions and breaks to your routine, ending an interaction with a stranger and particularly stopping talking to anyone about your Obsessions.

    These both follow the same mechanic. Roll 3d6, and you must get under your general competence + appropriate skill modifier(s) + situational modifiers. Lets call this value a DC(Difficulty Class) as in recent D&D versions. If the roll equals the DC, you have an awkward moment (how this plays out is up to the player and referee) but get to roll again. Your applicable skills can be positive or negative modifiers, depending on whether it's a check or challenge.

    A success....is a success! But if you fail you have a tantrum.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:16 No.13062488
    >>13062471 self-diagnosed-aspergers-syndrome-but-really-just-an-asshole

    Third year psych student here. I fucking love you and will name my firstborn child in your honor.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:18 No.13062494
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    >memorising every detail of every "Magic: the Gathering" card ever produced
    subtle trolling?
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)05:19 No.13062503
    If a player fails a check, they may not try again, but if they fail a challenge
    , then a Tantrum ensues. There are three levels of Tantrum: Sulking, Screaming, and Catatonic. The level of tantrum is measured using the Level of Failure, as calculated by subtracting the DC from the actual value of the roll.

    If the Level of Failure is less than or equal to their GC, they sulk for that many minutes and may not interact with anyone or perform any previously unplanned action for that many minutes.

    If the Level of Failure is less than or equal to twice their GC, they will throw a true temper tantrum, screaming and stomping around for that many minutes unless they get their way. If the character DOES get their way, it downgrades to a sulk.

    Finally, if the Level of Failure is more than twice their GC, they go catatonic and stop responding to the outside world for that many minutes times 10!
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)05:19 No.13062507
    and those are the rules.

    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)05:20 No.13062511
    Timothy needs to catch the train, but the station has no ticket machines, He mustbuy a train ticket from the station staff.
    Timothy is borderline severer, and has a a GC of 3. This normally would not go well, but fortunately he has general OBSESSION:railroads 7 as well as a specific COMPULSION:stuff left trouser pocket with scraps of paper and card. It's a stranger but he gets no penalty as Timothy's player makes the case that he is comfortable with railroad staff when are they doing their jobs, so he gets no situational penalty from the referee. He must beat 3+7+7-0=17 on 3d6.

    rolled 2, 3, 4 = 9 - SUCCESS!
    Timothy has accrued another
    scrap of paper for his left pocket AND gets to ride a train! So far, it's working out to be a great day for him.

    But Oh no! Timothy has been talking about railroads, and his powergaming fool of a player has argued that in this situation the staff are NOT strangers so he's happy to keep talking to them forever. This won't be easy as his skill is now a negative modifier. his GC of 3 gets a -7 this time from OBSESSION:railroads, but the referee kindly rules that he also gets a +7 OBSESSION:railroads as he has stop and go ride a train. so it's just a straight GC=3 check. He just might make it....

    rolled 3, 5, 6 = 14 - MASSIVE FAILURE.

    as Timothy failed by 11 - more than twice his GC - he's gone Catatonic! He curls up into a ball by the counter and sits rocking back and forth unconsolably for the next 110 minutes. But there's still hope - the train leaves soon, and he might just snap out of the Tantrum and catch it if he passes another challenge...
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:20 No.13062512

    it's called Promethean.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:23 No.13062529
    You misspelled Palladium there. Now go roll on the chart chart.
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)05:28 No.13062544
    Going to buy a book on Asparagus Tips Through the Ages from that specialist Adult bookstore downtown.
    Mom's fallen and broken her hip, but you NEED to get to the daycare center!
    FurryYiffExplosionCon opens today, and you all need to get to the next state in your windowless van.
    You posted pictures on Facebook of yourself doing perfectly normal things, and now the Internet is making fun of you! REVENGE!#

    and that's everything.
    >> Coffee-Kun !wdyCn5h.Tg 12/07/10(Tue)05:31 No.13062561
    I am soooo doing this campaign setting next time.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:33 No.13062569

    Perhaps you should confront an autist before making assumptions that autists are exactly what the diagnose describes. No autist is alike, and the diagnoses are just used to describe their level of functionality, but since cross-diagnoses doesn't exist people sometimes get put in categories temporarily because it contains the most fitting symptons. Their diagnose doesn't describe how smart they are, just how well they do in society.

    That said, ya I'm a case of infantile autism (severe as you call it) that has the same functional social level as an aspergers. I'm not saying that you should drop your idea, I actually kind of like it, but i think you might want to rethink how a person with autism really is.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:35 No.13062587
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    Can someone stat male/female Borderline Personality Disorder?

    >sup, bleized
    thanks captcha
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:37 No.13062600

    I think it's supposed to be silly, on a bit of a Fatal level.... but with much less rures.
    >> [Ag]Shot !H508X.HbJ6 12/07/10(Tue)05:38 No.13062605
    Looks to me like the system can emulate a great number of different autistic conditions, if you talk it over with you ST how the failures work.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:39 No.13062615
    It's based on irony, it's not like the creator doesn't know that all autistic people are different. Think of it as... Internet Autism compared to Real Life Autism, two entirely different things. It's like the movie "Psycho", although the main villain is a murderous freak, most psychopaths never kill anyone, in fact, higher CEO's often have a strain of psychopathy, as the lack of sympathy makes it easier to make those decisions that give a company a boost, but perhaps cuts a third of the workforce.

    >You posted pictures on Facebook of yourself doing perfectly normal things, and now the Internet is making fun of you! REVENGE!#

    This is pure gold.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:41 No.13062625
    >female Borderline Personality Disorder

    You don't want that, seriously.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:41 No.13062626
    where's the fun in that?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:43 No.13062638
    I think this was mostly an elaborate jab at the self-diagnosed-mental-disorder dickbags.

    They do exist, and are truly the scum of the earth.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:45 No.13062645
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    Will I be able to use this to play CWCville: The RPG? This is kind of a deal breaker for me.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:50 No.13062659
    >Perhaps you should confront an autist before making assumptions that autists are exactly what the diagnose describes.

    Hi. I'm a diagnosed autist, with multiple psychologists and psychiatrists agreeing. I am probably a 5-7 on the statline above.

    I am not offended by this game in any way. And after my group therapy session, where 4 of us normally then go to the cafeteria at the VA clinic where its held to play magic, I will bring up this game and see if they want to play. I know two them are avid roleplayers, finding it to be the only way they can express themselves when dealing with people outside of group in person with any level of comfort.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:51 No.13062666
    I like the Just An Asshole rank. I know two guys.

    One of them was diagnosed with autism as a child. Everyone in his family also has autism. It is supposedly more severe than aspergers but presumably still very high functioning. That guy used to design planes, now he's a mechanic in the armed forces. He's had to take prescription drugs and I've seen him freak out and get upset (although not a tantrum - he seemed to freak out because he felt like he was going to tantrum and he got frustrated that he has to deal with shit like that when other people don't). He's fundamentally a nice guy even though he sometimes annoys people by talking too much or about stuff they don't care about.

    The other guy sits at home all day drawing bad furry porn and complaining about how the world doesn't give him everything that he thinks he's owed by it. Nobody appreciates him and WAAH all women are whores because they don't want to sleep with him. Last year his doctor suggested that perhaps some of his problems stem from a mild form of autism, perhaps aspergers. As far as I know he hasn't had a second diagnosis which I believe is required to be officially labelled autistic, but all the same he now adds "by the way, don't make fun of me, it isn't my fault I'm autistic" onto the end of all of his shitty, disturbing blogs.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:51 No.13062669
    Its my opinion that most of the people that are declared as being on the autism/aspergers spectrum are not suffering from any neurological disorder. More than likely they weren't taught proper coping, rationalization, and social skills when they were young, and so they end up growing into looooosers that are either labeled or label themselves as having the condition as almost an excuse for why they are all messed up. Though, I imagine a number of the more full blown autistics are probably legit cases, but most of the people below that, i highly doubt it.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:52 No.13062675
    Although I suppose I'd label the furry a 6 or 7 on GC and the genuine autist an 8 or 9.

    Hmmmm. I don't think your rules account for people who are just dumb asses.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:56 No.13062691
    The system is not accounting for them because they are outside the scope of what the game is trying to represent.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:56 No.13062695

    Third year and you still haven't figured out that you're not a neurologist?

    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:56 No.13062696
    It's tricky, but that's why you need more than one doctor to diagnose you. If somebody has more than one doctor doing the diagnosis, they're probably legit. Anyone who throws out their autism for all to see just because they've got one doctor wondering is just an asshole though.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:58 No.13062703
    >I am repeating what a half dozen trolls have endlessly repeated for the past several years lolol i am so cool
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)05:59 No.13062709
    >I am not offended by this game in any way.
    That's because you don't have real person feelings.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:02 No.13062727
    Haha! No, I don't. And watching the way you normies act, I don't think I do.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:02 No.13062728
    furry aspergers is probably the worst kind of aspergers. You are combining two of the most useless and awkward types of behavior archetype into one ultra useless and awkward individual.

    Its like two black holes collapsing in on each other, releasing a gamma ray burst that burns some random civilization 1000 light years away off its planet like a hair dryer to ants on a ball of styrafoam. By itself either class of person is dumb and harmless, together their retardation is lethal.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:03 No.13062733

    What about me? I'm a PhD student in Behavioral Neuroscience! Yay me! I care about defining my self worth or the worth of my chosen field of study by random people on the internet! Do i get a cookie?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:05 No.13062739
    /tg/: The Fattening
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:05 No.13062743
    sorry if i don't read up on asperger troll weekly magazine, bro.
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)06:05 No.13062745
    Any game system which has this degree of simplification (you only get one stat!) is not really be much of simulation. This is mostly a joke, and this mostly (badly) models social interactions...How they actually behave is mostly a roleplay issue, not a roll-play issue. Those genuinely-diagnosed autists I have known have been extremely intelligent, and autism is only included because it's the other end of the scale from aspergers.
    >elaborate jab at the self-diagnosed-mental-disorder dickbags
    pretty much, yeah.

    >Can someone stat male/female Borderline Personality Disorder?
    If this gets enough positive feedback, maybe...
    It'll be at the bottom of the pile though, after these quality titles:
    Down syndrome: The Concrete Thinkening
    Schizophrenia: The Random Medicationing
    "Vampire: The Masquerade" Players: The Self-Indulgent Nonsensing
    and many more.

    All part of the planned "new World of Retards"
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:06 No.13062751

    Grr i am very offended by this statement! We fatties have a glandular disorder... it has nothing to do with the fact that I had like 5 slices of pizza for dinner!
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:08 No.13062764
    Shit. now I'm really hungry for pizza.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:08 No.13062766

    Please kindly site studies that say that a majority or large minority of CEO's not just may have, but in fact have been diagnosed with some sort of schizophrenia or kindly shut the fuck up.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:12 No.13062794

    For somebody with a PhD you have a talent for missing the point entirely.

    I wasn't mocking his credentials, I was pointing out that Autism is a neurological disorder, and as such as absolutely nothing to do with his psych education.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:13 No.13062808
    Yet shrinks diagnose it on a behavioral level then refer the patient to a neurologist for confirmation. Psychology is an important part of the equation.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:14 No.13062811

    >5 slices of pizza for dinner

    If you think that is a lot, you must be one scrawny little runt. 5 slices of pizza doesn't even qualify as a snack for anybody north of 80kg, which is just about anybody more than 5'10" who has ever lifted something heavy in their entire lives.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:15 No.13062818
    he said psychopathy, not schizophrenia

    It simply stands to reason. I mean, not everyone who reaches the top of the food chain gets there by being clever, upstanding, and lucky. Some do it by being ruthless and not giving a fuck about who you got to step over or on. i.e. psychopathy.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:16 No.13062826
    ...Surely this entirely depends on the size of the pizza?

    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:17 No.13062829

    I like you.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:17 No.13062830
    Or they inherit the job.
    Nepotism works.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:17 No.13062834
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    Well, I have time. I think there are more people with BPD on this board than people with Downs syndrome. Or at least more that are interested to play a BPD character- as it is more playable than a Chaotic Neutral Downs-Wizard. Well, I have a lecture now- don't fail me elegan/tg/entlemen.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:18 No.13062839
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:19 No.13062843
    I'm a fatass. Just shy of the clinical morbidly obese side. I eat 7 slices of a Round Table Large, a fully stacked salad, and 5 glasses of beer to get full.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:19 No.13062851
    Not that guy, but the term "psychopath" denotes Antisocial personality disorder, not schizophrenia, and a quick google scholar search shows several papers on how they tend to get promoted. Saw some references to CEO's, but nothing that says all (or even most) are "psychos"

    random one, in french! http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1464-0597.1995.tb01073.x/abstract
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:20 No.13062855
    true, any little girl can wolf down a large thin crust as easily as a handful of potato chips.

    However a large chicago style where you can't lift the slices off the plate without the whole thing oozing apart from the weight of the toppings, thats a tiger of a different stripe.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:20 No.13062860

    Psychopathy doesn't actually exist.. it's a word used by the media to describe one of 2 conditions, Antisocial Personality Disorder or Schizophrenia. His citation of the movie Psycho where the main character hallucinates that his mother is having him kill is quite obviously an example of Psychopathy being used to mean Schizophrenia (seeing as Hallucinations are the most commonly known symptom of schizophrenia), so my original insinuation and question stand.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:23 No.13062873

    I'm still waiting for my studies that show that many CEO's have Antisocial Personality Disorder, not simply a french paper describing the way in which people with said disorder may get themselves promoted which says nothing about how they end up as CEO's.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:26 No.13062890
    There's a reference to it on the wikipedia article for 'Psychopath', I think. Maybe there are studies linked there?
    I'm not the guy you were talking to by the way, but I do remember seeing something to that effect there when I was looking it up a while ago.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:27 No.13062895
    Well, keep in mind the toppings too.

    At least in my experience, veggies seem to fill me up faster. Get a garden pizza, and I can finish maybe three sizes (Presuming a 12" diameter). Plain cheese, 5 slices. Meat, ehh, usually doesn't matter as much, 4 slices.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:28 No.13062904
    I believe he was referencing the movie psycho more to the point of how hollywood gets it wrong.

    As for psychopathy not existing, i wouldn't say that. It would seem to fall on the same spectrum as sociopathy and narcissism. As they all share varying types of disregard/objectification for others and no small amount of selfishness.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:28 No.13062906
    CEO's are actually perfectly functional people who end up in their jobs because they are more capable than their competitors.

    The corporations = psychopathy argument is perpetuated by the far leftists such as Naomi Klein and Noam Chomsky, and refers to how the corporation as a whole, not its CEO, behaves in regards to society. Even those bitter leftists are not stupid enough to claim that CEO's commonly have some kind of mental defects.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:31 No.13062926
    So what, the Monostat(tm) represents
    >Down syndrome: The Concrete Thinkening
    how well you understand abstract concepts?
    >Schizophrenia: The Random Medicationing
    how effective/affective your medication is?
    >"Vampire: The Masquerade" Players: The Self-Indulgent Nonsensing
    how much of a fragile, huffy, special little snowflake you and your characters are?

    I can see the last one going down well here.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:31 No.13062927
    Not entirely true. Psychopathy does not denote Antisocial Personality Disorder, however, it is often confused with it, because most people do not realise Psychopathy isn't in the DSM. Psycopathy does have a number of posited features and symptoms, some neurological and some behavioural, it's quite interesting. There is also definitely some literature devoted to the idea that Psycopathy might be rampant in very succesful CEO's and the like, and it's a 'different kind' of Psycopathy because the sample from which we study and get our information from is a biased sample i.e. they've all been caught committing shocking crimes.

    I had a few interesting essays and papers on this subject, the only one I can remember off the top of my head is Robert Hare's Hare 'Without Conscience'
    >> Radical Dreamer !iQu/bbTn7k 12/07/10(Tue)06:32 No.13062930
    Is chris-chan like an Antediluvian?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:38 No.13062958
    ha, you never met my old boss

    crack, whores, booze, assault, sexual harassment, lies, conflict of interests, constantly cast blame on others, fired people on a whim, ran our company like his little private kingdom, and he'd tell you everything you wanted to hear with a totally straight face to manipulate you.

    I gave him every benefit of the doubt too, but he'd just keep doing more over the top worse shit. And he looked like an extra from Jersey Shore with the douchey musclehead look.

    I'm no leftist by any stretch, and i believe there are many people that got to the top through innovation and good business sense, but there are scumbags that float to the top too. It would not surprise me in the least if my old boss was some brand of psychopath, or at the very least a full blown narcissist.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:41 No.13062978

    This, a thousand times this.

    Labelling people you are politically opposed to as mentally ill has been a favourite tactic of the left since Soviet Union.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)06:48 No.13063016
    Except now it's used against the public. Look up the newest mental disorder in the DSM, Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)06:57 No.13063071
    yep. The V:tM could potentially get very meta.

    so, anyone else got anything to say about ASPERGERS: The Misfittening, or should I abandon the thread to it's derailment?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)07:01 No.13063101

    I prefered old World of Retards.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)07:05 No.13063121
    No, i think this thread is still good.

    I think there should be some sort of mechanic involving hug-boxes. The entire concept of hug boxes i find hilarious, and being that they are tied directly to aspergers, i think would be fitting.

    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)07:06 No.13063128

    What? No Psychopathy was in the DSM until 1980, the DSM-III removed the word Psychopathy and replaced it with Anti-Social Personality disorder, like they have done with many disorders in an attempt to sanitize them by removing negative social stigma... so you're wrong on the science side.

    You're also wrong on the media side as Psychopathy was simply a colloquialism used to describe people who fit either Anti-Social or Schizophrenic typology. This can be perfectly illustrated by the fact that the movie Psycho is named as such.

    Also please site Peer reviewed journal articles as sources, not books about a few specific individuals.

    Christ /tg/ learn how to science for gods sake... how did you people pass your college classes like this?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)07:08 No.13063143
    It's been a favorite tactic of every major political party. The right is not innocent here.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)07:10 No.13063154

    Leftists are much more eager to do that, just look at how often bitter socialists actually accuse people more successful and competent than them of anti-social disorders.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)07:13 No.13063171
    Yeah, it's not like the political right hasn't made an extensive career of throwing baseless accusations and slander at their opposition. Both sides are full of slimy cocksuckers and you need to face up to that fact if you're to have any right to call yourself honest.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)07:14 No.13063180
    I never claimed that was not the case. In contemporary psychology however Psychopathy is not in the DSM, and has different posited criteria to Antisocial Personality Disorder.

    >You're also wrong on the media side as Psychopathy was simply a colloquialism used to describe people who fit either Anti-Social or Schizophrenic typology
    The very author I linked you too advocates his own checklist of Traits, the Hare Psychopathy Checklist, which is also used for differentiating between Psycopathy and Antisocial Personality Disorder, and if you'd like peer reviewed articles on the topic, read the source I gave you and follow the references.
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)07:16 No.13063189
    okay then -

    Hug Machines are large, non-portable devices which have a strongly calming effect. A few couple of minutes in a hugbox can cancel a tantrum of any scale, provided one is available (and the character can be placed in it.)

    In a GC Check, this reduces a failure result to that of an extended Awkward Moment, and another attempt at the check may be made. Failed challenges cannot be retaken in this manner, as the other person was too weirded out.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)07:22 No.13063225
    Chris Chan is the equivalent of a CoC elder god in this setting right?

    you would not be able to out-'sperg him. researching him leads to madness.

    That is aspergers which can eternal lie.

    And with strange hobbies even death may die
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)07:23 No.13063237
    >>Life is sometimes difficult , but when you stick to what you're good at, it goes really well.

    Hah, so true. It's a good thing that there's /tg/ to fulfill all my aberrant social interaction needs.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)07:33 No.13063330
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    i like it!!!
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)07:47 No.13063445
    This game is pretty fantastic actually, and it's actually not nearly as inaccurate as alot of people would think. I actually work with a bunch of behaviorally disabled people, a number of whom have autism. Can't imagine that they would enjoy this game though, hitting too close to home and all.
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)08:27 No.13063757
    any more suggestions for rules additions?

    If could be bothered, I'd make Compulsion, Obsession, and Sameness & Ritual tables for random skill generation, but that would be far too much work - they'd have to be massive to avoid repetition, particularly if someone has a GC of 1. at least 100 for each general and specific skillset.

    I'm also thinkning of alternate character generation rules where you roll a seperate d6 each for the number of skills needed - not sure though, as it can potentially ruin the balancing mechanism.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:34 No.13064184
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    bump for autism
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)09:52 No.13064281
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    thanks for bumping but it looks like we're done for now. Might repost the system later for more feedback, perhaps after I've gone over the rules a bit more.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:53 No.13064287
    Oh god, did I miss Shit Getting Done?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:57 No.13064302
    GURPS has a disadvantage called Confused, which you have to roll against whenever you are in an unusual place to avoid becoming, well, confused.

    If said confusion takes the form of thrashing around and spouting random movie quotes, you got Asperger's.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:57 No.13064303
    >he thinks psychologists aren't interested in neurological disorders

    I learned about fetal alcohol syndrome in my introductory psyche class. That's not just a behavioral thing. Also learned about how damage to certain parts of the frontal lobe can affect a person's behavior. And I haven't taken any other psyche classes, just basic stuff.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)09:59 No.13064321
    Combined with a few Odious Personal Habits, you have the jist of what aspergers entails; A penalty to your abilities in social situations, and a general confusion of whats going on, but otherwise functional.

    Add in obscure phobia, and you have someone who is not adapting well to their medication.....
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)10:05 No.13064353
    I have NLD (a needlessly categorized form of high-functioning autism), which was diagnosed by a licensed psychiatrist, and as a fuck-up this is absolutely hilarious.

    Well played, OP. Well played.

    I'm not a White Wolf player, but is there any way to have the Sperg fail a roll in a way that leads to physical conflict with an NPC? Like, if he fails a roll to get directions to the bathroom because he shat himself, and ends up calling a black guy a nigger?

    Because that would be hilarious.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)10:24 No.13064494
    > I was pointing out that Autism is a neurological disorder, and as such as absolutely nothing to do with his psych education
    wow, where did you do your psyc major?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)10:27 No.13064510

    I interpreted it as a parody of homebrew/indie RPGs that use an absurdly small number of stats and very few rules. In the OP he mentions that it originated as a response to the Tri-Stat system.


    You should give LSM skill bonuses a 1.5 multiplier whenever they're a positive modifier; otherwise a higher GC is completely superior to a lower GC in every way possible. This way the game is more balanced. And let's face it, severe autistics can be downright savants, better than normal folk, when it comes to areas of obsession.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)11:43 No.13064939
    I know this shit is said and done with for the most part, but, as a genuine sufferer of Assburgers, I commend you, OP. This is funny shit and so accurate it hurts.

    Please, let me bear your child, OP, to honor this fuckawesome script. The fact I'm a man will complicate the process, but we can find a way... Yes, we'll find a way...

    >mistake sewans

    What was the mistake, and who is Sewan, captcha?

    Oh, and you need factions, PC and otherwise. From Chris-Chan's fanclub (you may need to grimdark this shit up, even if with fiction, since we're on /tg/, but maybe that's going too far?) to the A.F.F. Maybe add in a minor faction of aspergers sufferers who AREN'T fucktards? I don't think there is a faction, just a classification in the form of GC 6-8. Lordy, this is a veritable goldmine of trollplay and aspie butthurt...
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)11:49 No.13064982
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    Sonichu thread?

    pecesed twice
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)11:52 No.13064993
    >Maybe add in a minor faction of aspergers sufferers who AREN'T fucktards?

    The Knights Sperglord
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    ... What the shit did the CWC cultist just say?

    I'm so confused now.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)11:53 No.13065000
    >>implying Tri-Stat isn't superior mechanic
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)11:55 No.13065016
    Huh. I guess an obnoxious but KNOWLEDGABLE fucker of an aspie, is a far better candidate for status as the 'good guy' faction, than insane, shiteating retards who cannot function at all...

    OP, get back in here and flesh this shit out.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)12:12 No.13065151

    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)12:15 No.13065165
    Just eh? Bother. Shall I feel ashamed of my shitscribble now, or later? Or both?
    >> Zach !!m1zNwNhpIw+ 12/07/10(Tue)13:58 No.13065950
    >CWC fanclub

    The head of this fanclub would inevitably be a strange variation of Chris-chan. If he has a fanclub, then he's most likely more outgoing than Chris-chan to some degree. Not by much, but you get the idea.

    He most likely got other people involved by expanding his made-up world to include them. They befriended one another at a stinky gaming store of some sort and were eventually drawn to the larger and slightly more charismatic "Mayor". The Mayor had created an imaginary world all his own, where he has godlike power and fiery echidna friends to assist him in his quest for a "super-de-cutefied girlfriend". The Mayor makes his new followers into citizens of his made-up town, where they all have superpowers of some kind. Bonded by citizenship in an imaginary realm all their own, they draw epics detailing their battles within this realm with magic markers.

    Just imagine, several Chris-chans all gathered around a table bearing a map of their made-up town, a single vast Chris-chan telling them his plans to take over the town they actually live in. The only things that stands in their way are the "crappy cops", the neighborhood watch and the PCs.

    Actually, don't imagine that. One Chris-chan is fucking horrifying enough.
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)15:23 No.13066442
    OP here, I'm back.
    >have the Sperg fail a roll in a way that leads to physical conflict
    Totally possible. Just have to trigger a temper tantrum with an NPC who will kick your ass. To win the ensuing fight you would need enough modifiers to win the challenge roll. You lose(and get the shit beaten out of you if enough negative modifiers pile up to cause the character to go catatonic. It's perfectly possible to make a combat character, but you'd need to have either a very weak opponent, surprise, or actual physical skills represented in all 3 categories

    For example Jessie(7) is obsessed with Bruce Lee. This is not only reflected Compulsion, Obsession:Bruce Lee, but also Sameness &
    Ritual:Must practice Jeet Kune Do between 2 and 4 PM every day, and Compulsion:Must dress like Bruce in "Game of Death" when sparring.

    so, in a sudden street-fight against a normal person(10) Jessie gets (GC)7+(Jeet Kun Do)3-(not wearing game of death cloths)3-(opponent stat)10 = -3. Jessie is beaten to a fine paste. If only he'd worn that yellow and black jumpsuit today.


    You guys want factions?
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)15:42 No.13066594

    I dunno, I'm not really feeling the factions thing, and don't really want to make it a specifically CWC-themed game. Here goes:

    Factions have no mechanical effect on gameplay except possibly affecting the situational modifiers players encounter.

    Factions could include:

    Daycare Center staff - Friendly, but they sometimes move your stuff.

    Daycare Center patrons - Your fellow autists. You all get dumped there by stressed out relatives.
    local Special Intrest Group - could be wargamers, historical society, the fingerpainting & rough sex club. They don't hate you. Can occasionally be relied on for support.
    Internet Support Group - they love you and provide you with bad advice.

    Sega and Nintendo of America and

    Those-Assholes-At-The-Copy-Shop - Seriously, fuck those guys.
    Bigfoot and the Leonardo di Caprio - You may have been misdiagnosed.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)15:45 No.13066610
    wait wat?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)15:48 No.13066632
    >Those-Assholes-At-The-Copy-Shop - Seriously, fuck those guys.

    ...I think I am a member of that faction...
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)15:53 No.13066667
    so unless you're playing a some sort of traumatized violence machine, you're pretty much fucked in combat against regular people? your combat is brutal.
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)15:59 No.13066708
    Pretty much, yeah.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)16:04 No.13066732
    "Neurotics vs Psychotics- A roleplay game"

    Also bumping for Borderline Personality Disorder stats
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)16:10 No.13066774
    >Borderline Personality Disorder stats

    Stats? don't you mean stat?
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)16:15 No.13066808

    I do, sir.
    >anew. fitted
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)16:22 No.13066873
    Doing it now - using a variant of Schizophrenia: The Random Medicationing.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)16:30 No.13066956
    Not-so-bitter leftist here, and somehow I feel like I have to agree with you. Some CEOs get there thanks to hard work and overall competence, some get there thanks to connections, some just get there because they are "the son of ...", but it's just like anyone else.
    Also, some of them are sociopath, and it may have helped them, but there are many sociopath, a whole 1% of the whole population, according to the APA. CEOs are just much more famous.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)16:35 No.13066990
    I have archived this on sup/tg/. Be sure to vote it up, y'all.
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)17:07 No.13067225
    Here they are: and they're pretty freaky.
    "Bipolar" style Psychological disorder rules

    This is not as comprehensive. you'll have to fluff it out yourself as you prefer for your mental illness of choice..

    Your Monostat(tm) is not roll over or roll under - it is instead a target value. As before, roll 1d10, but half the result, rounding down. This value represents your general stability(GS). checks/challenges are 3d6 with a target of 9 +/- GS

    Fail, and you start exhibiting Negative or Positive traits.

    So a person with General Stability of 3 must make a roll between 6-12 to succeeed. Roll too low, and a Negative trait, too high and a Positive trait manifests.

    Negative traits are not bad, nor are Positive Traits good. Okay, they're probably both bad in a social context.

    when a roll is failed, immediately roll 1d6. on 1-3, the effect is self directed. 4-6 it is externalised.

    Negative: This would be devaluation of self or others in som fashion. It always includes physical harm.
    Positive: This would be Idealization. It always includes sexual activity.
    >> hurr !sRWmX4fA1c 12/07/10(Tue)17:08 No.13067233

    All characters must specify a 5 positive and 5 negative traits. Sexual activity and physical harm do not count towards your required trait choice number., but are added in addition to them.
    These are each written on opposite sides of a chit and placed in a bag. They do not have to make sense.
    when you fail a check, you must draw a chit, work out if it is externalised, record the result. You will exhibit the combined signs of those.
    if you draw the same pattern of traits twice in a row, congratulations. you have a new fetish. not necessarily a sexual one, but it is now a permanent fixture on your list, gets written on a chit and added to the bag.

    Exactly how badly you behave is governed INVERSELY by how badly you failed the check. Missing by one generally results in overt behaviour. try not to miss by one then draw the sexual/harm chit.

    For example: Mary drew external-harm, self-KITTIES,external-harm, self-KITTIES. She now sometimes pretends to be a cat and waves knives at people.

    David drew self-sexual, self-mother, external-shout. he gets it again. He now has a sexual fantasy about dressing as his mother and shouting at other people. What a freak.

    Self-balancing mechanism: THERE IS NONE. YOU JUST KEEP GETTING WORSE.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)17:13 No.13067272
    A game where the characters could end up fucking a stuffed toy in public while cutting themselves.

    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)17:17 No.13067295
    That's truly insane, sir.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)20:34 No.13069299
    >Self-balancing mechanism: THERE IS NONE. YOU JUST KEEP GETTING WORSE.
    The best part about this is that I know people who would try to stick it out, no matter how bad it got. The campaign just gets more and more fucked up and hilarious.
    >> Anonymous 12/07/10(Tue)22:01 No.13070605
    The lesson I learned here today is "If someone's working on a homebrew, don't request they make a completely different one."

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