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    267 KB A Frost Giant is Thee ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)17:03 No.10739498  
    rolled 3, 6, 4 = 13

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    >> Incoming Text-Wall ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)17:03 No.10739503
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    rolled 5, 4, 1 = 10

    The arrival of spring (as much as it can be called this far North) brings new light and new hope. The well-established Southern farming center is the site of much activity as planting begins, the fields rapidly expanding under the gleaming tools of the golem workforce. To the North, a fine road stretches into the forest, ending at a small clearing positioned directly over a sizable iron deposit, soon to host a mine and a bustling town around it. Dreamwood's supplies of iron, copper, coal, and aluminum grow daily as the existing mines are expanded, and the bauxite deposit has already been mined out.

    With utmost care and silent joy, the chained spirit has carved out a magnificent system of tunnels above the bunker but below the surface, all layed out according to your plans. In short order, they will all be connected up, forming the core of an impressive sewer system that will deal with waste far more effectively than the existing structures. The expansion of the rail project has lead to great gains in the distance of the second line, now more than two-thirds of the way to Evermain. A second miniature locomotive is being used to ferry supplies to the crew while the first runs to Fain and back.

    Bem continues to increase his network's coverage, even managing to find a buyer for some of your quad-cycles. He has also sent you a small fire magelock, which he says probably has enough juice to run one of the locos. Radios, of the standard pulse-type, have been issued to some of the hunting parties, though their limited battery supply and even more limited range keep them from seeing much use. Still, R&D continues its work, improving the designs constantly while some of the literate are taught Morse Code.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:04 No.10739508
    inb4 way too many responses
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)17:04 No.10739516
    rolled 2, 1, 1 = 4

    Several repeating rifles have been produced, though they are not without their problems, and do not have interchangeable parts. For now, they are being used with the muskets for firearms training and target practice. Plans for a breech-loading weapon are in the works, along with all of the other projects, such as mechanical typewriters. The town surgeon, in the absence of other duties, is training a few capable hands in dissection. They are years away from becoming doctors, even in a relatively backwards place like this, but the framework is there.

    Five retired soldiers have arrived from the Southwest, taking you up on your offer to quarter them in Dreamwood. All are middle-age, one is a cavalryman and the others are infantry.

    An emissary has arrived from Grennet, the Western town past Sollis. He wishes to negotiate for rail service.

    You have received warning from the tower line of a roving group of Envids just North of the border, within Cyreth. Envids are six-limbed creatures resembling jumping spiders, large enough to be used by Frost Giants as mounts. They can sense heat and are capable of eating animals the size of polar bears whole.

    It is the 28th day of the 2nd month, year three after embark.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:04 No.10739519
    What the....?! I..was not expecting this today...but what does that have to do with anything?
    Forward the Dreamwood Foundation!

    Anyway, can we pull some resources away to begin development of greenhouses for year-round crop production?
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)17:07 No.10739556
    rolled 2, 2, 1 = 5

    Yes. All you have to do is tell me where you'd like them pulled from. The construction magelock is busy building houses and granaries in the new farming town, but it can be brought back if you want.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:10 No.10739609
    Offer the soldiers positions within the militia; their prior military training and background should help.
    Keep an eye on those envids; warn the hunting parties of their presence. We may need to deal with them personally if they stray too close to occupied lands.

    What terms does Grennet offer in return for building a rail line out to them?

    Also, how are the other towns and surrounding counties in our little alliance doing? Are we still on starvation rations? Can we begin work on greenhouses and fertilizers so they'll be ready by winter?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:12 No.10739635
    Oh man, I thought you weren't doing one today. Almost gave up on waiting :D
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:13 No.10739660
    Okay, so just to be clear, the construction magelock can be used to build greenhouses, correct? I was afraid that we might have to do research and alchemic production of the glass panes and superstructure for the buildings. If not, then it'll make things much easier.

    We should see if we can pull some of the druids and chemically-minded scientists towards making fertilizers. We'll need them for the greenhouses, and it can only help regular crop production.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:15 No.10739685
    Can be used by frost giants as a mount?
    Will be used by frost giants as a mount!
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:15 No.10739690
    Would be nice to have Envid mount.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:16 No.10739702
    Ask what emissary wants and what he offers.

    Also, how are beggar towns doing?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:17 No.10739706
    As cool as that would be, in our civilian capacity, it would require far too much resources to maintain.
    Now, if we were to be fighting in the war again, then I could see a much better argument for domesticating one.
    But with the food stores at such critical levels, I don't think we should go for a "pony", as giant and awesome as it would be, right now.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)17:17 No.10739714
    rolled 1, 6, 5 = 12

    Both confirmed. Radios will be issued to all hunting parties operating North and everyone involved in the construction of the industrial town.

    They offer a considerably lucrative trade agreement and a 'cut' of the profit of their trade with Fain and Sollis, since they understand their line will connect to both of those. They also offer to buy a miniature locomotive, five cargo carts, and everything required to maintain them.

    The other towns are teetering, but the addition of aid from Dreamwood and Fain has stabilized them considerably. You already have fertilizers, and greenhouses can easily be completed during the next month, if you don't get too ambitious.

    I apologize for my lateness. It took longer than I thought to set up wireless.

    It can be used to build frames and some amount of glass, but the maximum size of the structures it builds is limited. It should be used to build in sections if you want large greenhouses.

    Fertilizer production enqueued.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:18 No.10739732
    Give them higher positions though, not just regular grunts.
    >> Harmless 06/25/10(Fri)17:18 No.10739733
    Wow, forgot that this runs on Fridays.
    Anyways, have part of the deal with Sollis that Bem is given some land in their town to build another shop.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)17:20 No.10739750
    rolled 3, 6, 3 = 12

    It is certainly possible, considering the strength and speed of Envids, to use them for hunting, cargo or message carrying, construction, or defense. To domesticate them would require time and care, but it might be worth it in the long run. They are limited to a northern climate, though.


    Do you want this deal to expand Bem's network to Grennet and Sollis both? That can probably be worked out.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:21 No.10739763
    Yes, include in the trade agreement that Bem is given the right to act as our trade representative and set up shop in their area of influence. It all sounds fairly straightforward; I don't see any problem with ratifying the agreement.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:21 No.10739773
    We should ask Bem to come and work out the trade agreement

    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:23 No.10739803
    Tell them that we need to finish our rails to other towns first though. They are free to send skilled workers to help out if they want to speed up things.

    How is the food situation looking?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:23 No.10739810
    Finish any immediate construction needs for the farming town, then switch the construction magelock to greenhouse production. Have it build the structure in modules, so that it can be expanded easily.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:25 No.10739841
    Are the envids edible? Could be useful to hunt the pack in that case.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)17:25 No.10739848
    rolled 1, 6, 4 = 11

    Very well.

    This can easily be done, if you use the loco to collect him and bring him back to Dreamwood. Would you like to roll for a better result on the trade agreement?

    The rail to Evermain should be completed by next month. You can then use the crews to continue running the Sollis/Grennet line. The delay is acceptable.

    Dreamwood's rationing program has been somewhat lessened in scope, and there is enough food to go around for the forseeable future. The first crops will be harvested in two months.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)17:26 No.10739862
    rolled 4, 4, 1 = 9


    Yes, but their meat is not very palatable, to humans or Frost Giants. Useful as an emergency supply, perhaps, but no one would want to eat it for long.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:26 No.10739863
    Do we have updated map of our town?

    Also, we might look into increasing happiness. Last thread (I think) at the end it was suggested to expand our scope of sport games, including soccers, basketball, volleyball, hockeyfield.
    Also build a swimming pool.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:27 No.10739864
    Even more specifically, do we have enough food available that we might be able to feed some envids as we domesticate them? Big biological construction cranes and earthmovers would be useful. Also a means of fast transport for us that isn't dependent on the gods all the time would be nice, too.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:27 No.10739879
    >Would you like to roll for a better result on the trade agreement?

    Meh, just let Bem handle it. I'm sure he'll do fine on average result.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:31 No.10739932
    We should request more scientist/researches from University.

    Oh, actually, call them up and ask whats up. We haven't talked to them for a while.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:33 No.10739968
    We should probably talk with the resident psychologists and sociologists, though. We'll need to analyze the culture that we have here, and try to determine specifically what actions or facilities would help to increase everyone's general level of contentment.
    Actually, that might be a good project to have our nascent social engineering department work on: a cultural analysis of Dreamwood and its population.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)17:33 No.10739970
    rolled 6, 3, 5 = 14

    I haven't worked on the current map, because expansion is very quick and it's difficult to represent the distances when dealing with the area I am now. I can keep using it if you wish, or make one representing just the County, or stick with the larger one with all the local towns.

    Where do you want the pool?

    You have enough for one, perhaps, if you kept it around the town. They are more than capable of providing for themselves if left to hunt.

    Very well. You have secured a trade agreement with Grennet, and one will soon be coming from Sollis. You are obligated to construct the Grennet line as soon as you are able, and provide the mini-loco and carts once the line is complete. You have a deposit, and you'll get the rest when the loco arrives.

    You can't talk to them in real-time without the gods, but the Conclave can relay messages, as can the distance link in Bell. Communications will proceed in timeskip, unless there's something specific you'd like to say.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:36 No.10740013
    Oh good idea
    But right now I think we just can go and ask around or look into our "complaint" box
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:38 No.10740041
    >Where do you want the pool?

    We should have some kind of sport complex/campus/whatever where all these things are close together and in the midden another park for resting/recreation/jogging/gymnastics. Maybe North, outside the wall (we will be tearing it down soon anyway)?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:39 No.10740049
    With the University, maybe some general chatting as to how their experiments are going, and if they need any pointers.
    For something more specific, perhaps let the professor of psychology know that any of her students are welcome to come to Dreamwood for jobs after graduation. With all the stress that the people have gone through due to our ramming them through the Industrial Revolution, state-supported therapists might be a good thing. Not to mention, having sociologists try to pinpoint cultural activities that will help the integration of immigrants and raise the general level of happiness would be very useful.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:39 No.10740054
    >Communications will proceed in timeskip, unless there's something specific you'd like to say.

    Nah, just want to know how the things are going, general chitchat and what not. Also to see how they are progressing.

    BTW, have there been any work on revolvers?
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)17:40 No.10740063
    rolled 4, 1, 3 = 8

    Cultural analysis enqueued.

    The native population has simple tastes and enjoys simple things, such as storytelling and plays. The newcomers have more diverse tastes, but generally stick to the rural formula: mock battles, sporting events, drinking in the tavern, music and women.

    It is suggested that you build at least one more inn, and passenger cars for the locos. Dreamwood is now hosting some amount of tourism, not to mention visiting traders and businessmen.

    Contentment is higher, now that the militia has backed off and the fear of direct action keeps people from fighting in the streets. There is a growing sentiment over the lack of currency, since the outsiders are accustomed to being payed in something they can spend elsewhere. Currently, Dreamwood is essentially communist: citizens are given what they need, and everything beyond that is allocated as supplies warrant. As the population increases, this will become impossible to maintain.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:40 No.10740075
    I dunno, maybe make it part of our Academy complex? That way it could represent fostering a greater integration of a sharp mind and a fit body.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:43 No.10740123
    >It is suggested that you build at least one more inn, and passenger cars for the locos. Dreamwood is now hosting some amount of tourism, not to mention visiting traders and businessmen.

    Okay, do that too.

    We'll work on currency soon enough. We'll need our economists and Bems helps on that though.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:44 No.10740137

    Oh, right. Do that if there is a place.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:44 No.10740143
    Passenger cars for the locos is good all around; we wanted to add those onto our regular rail system anyway.
    We should probably enqueue the building of another inn; perhaps the NotaHilton? Maybe do it ourselves with ice magic and transmutation so that it doesn't interfere with our normal construction queue, and to keep our skills sharp.

    We're going to have to bring liquid currency back into this system of ours, but I'm not sure how to implement that yet.
    >> Harmless 06/25/10(Fri)17:44 No.10740148

    Anyone know how to switch from a communist system to a capitalist system without there being too much of a problem?

    What has been done in that past?

    The only way to do it that I can think of is to make our own currency, then elect a council to evaluate how much each person has done in the past and recently and how important their job is.
    Then assign them money based on that.
    The problem obviously being that this is more or less a popularity contest if not properly supervised.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)17:47 No.10740196
    rolled 5, 5, 5 = 15

    The palisade has been mostly disassembled already.

    A general complex will be placed, unless there is an objection. Several parks have already been built, and more will be added.

    All confirmed.

    Very well. The message will be received and replied to during timeskip.

    Plans were made during development of the repeating rifles. Not much work has gone into them, though. It comes to mind that no pistols have been developed. Would you like to look into this?


    Confirmed. Bem and the economist will get to work on planning an economic system. I'm assuming you'd like to request the University's help in this area, as well.

    Very well. Passenger cars and 'NotaHilton' will be built.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:48 No.10740203
    >Anyone know how to switch from a communist system to a capitalist system without there being too much of a problem?

    Slow reforms. But I don't know how it was done.
    We shouldn't jump from one system to another that abruptly, this must be done smoothly as possible.

    Oh, and have socialized care (pensions, minimum wages, health and safety standards, small unemployment wages, student grants, etc..)
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:51 No.10740267
    >I'm assuming you'd like to request the University's help in this area, as well.

    Oh, ok.

    >It comes to mind that no pistols have been developed. Would you like to look into this?

    Yeah, I guess so. But since we have muskets it shouldn't be much of the problem, right? Just out line how revolvers are supposed to work as best as you can. It is fairly simple mechanism.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:52 No.10740277

    Yes, get some professional economists to come up with the plan.
    Some of the social benefits I like. How about changing the unemployment wage to state-sponsored work projects? We have lots to do, so I don't think we'll ever really have a job shortage.

    Yes, let's take a look in our research labs and see what the hold up is. Maybe they need some help?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:53 No.10740300
    >Confirmed. Bem and the economist will get to work on planning an economic system

    Of course, do not shove away our help to populace. We must maintain minimum standard of living. Minimum being slightly higher than average then the average of the country
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)17:56 No.10740351
    rolled 4, 5, 2 = 11



    There is no hold-up, as such, it's just that R&D has a very limited amount of attention to divide, especially with few trained personnel. Their current focus is radio technology, and they are trying to develop microphones for an audio transmitter.

    That shouldn't be difficult to sustain, as long as growth continues.

    Shall we timeskip? A standard month?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:57 No.10740370
    Yeah, ok, timeskip.
    I dunno what else we can do.

    Oh, did we put our book print to work?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)17:58 No.10740381
    So, has our Academy started to produce any new scientists yet? And how about recruiting some from within our own population and from the surrounding areas?

    Otherwise, skip ahead 1 month.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:01 No.10740414
    At least training our brightest minds.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)18:01 No.10740432
    rolled 2, 3, 3 = 8


    You have produced assistants, but no genuine scholars. Training on that level, even accelerated, takes quite a while. You'll see about recruiting more scientists.

    While I'm writing, would anyone like to discuss farther-out plans? If you continue on this course, the surrounding towns will either become trade partners, legitimate allies, or parts of the County. Administration, production, and military concerns will require attention.
    >> Harmless 06/25/10(Fri)18:03 No.10740469
    So if we are going to provide a minimal standard of living then should we subsidize all farming or just what we think is necessary?
    As for housing I think a central dormitory could be constructed in the fashion of an apartment complex. This would let new arrivals who are unable to afford normal housing stay sheltered.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:06 No.10740525

    I thought we were constantly building new houses.
    >> Harmless 06/25/10(Fri)18:07 No.10740550
    I believe we are, but this would be more efficient for when we switch over to a capitalist system.
    I think...
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:10 No.10740605
    Dunno, having a comfortable house is one of the requirement for our minimal standard of living imo.

    We could build a dormitory as temporary housing if for some reason the houses run out.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:11 No.10740630
    >If you continue on this course, the surrounding towns will either become trade partners, legitimate allies, or parts of the County. Administration, production, and military concerns will require attention.

    I can't think that far away. We'll have our administrators help us when the time comes. Or we'll need to hire more, I dunno.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:16 No.10740712
    When will we have full fledged locomotive ready?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:20 No.10740792
    Though we'll need two-way rail system before we can successfully implement them.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:22 No.10740830
    We need to think on products to trade. Right now we are trading high quality steel tools, right? What else could we trade for?
    Maybe start textile factory/workshop and start making high quality clothing?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:23 No.10740853

    We delayed the full loco to finish the rail networks didn't we?
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)18:26 No.10740912
    rolled 3, 4, 5 = 12

    One month has passed, bringing with it more progress on all fronts. Greenhouses have been built in both the town proper and the farming center, providing a place for year-round growing. Intense efforts from golems and men alike have built the farming center into a sizable installation, equaling the 'capital' town in fields. The first, fertilizer-enhanced harvest, is expected next month, and, as expansion outstrips population growth, you should have a massive surplus again by year's end. The Evermain line is complete and in operation, using the spare loco, which is being powered mainly by the magelock, to take the edge off the greater distance.

    A hunting group operating near your Northern border brought down a stray, injured Envid, thankfully felling it before it could close the range. After they reported back with their radios, a party was sent to retrieve as much of the meat as possible. The haul will keep indefinitely in low temperatures, but no one will eat it unless it's absolutely necessary. Its exoskeletal plates and eye-covers are being used for projects. Bem's network is expanding rapidly, not just in Fain, but in Sollis and Evermain as well. DCE has operatives emplaced in his workforce, keeping an eye on things outside the borders.

    The College of New Aarmour, focusing a great amount of resources on studying electricity, have developed more efficient generators than you currently employ, and they are willing to transfer that knowledge to you in return for specs on your (patented) locomotives. Additional personnel are available, but much of their faculty is now involved in their own R&D projects. Several engineers, two economists, and another counselor have been dispatched. The College is part of a growing network of institutions instructed by the government to build on and further develop 'modern' concepts, many of which originated with you. They are having quite a bit of success, but without your guidance, not as much as they could have.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)18:26 No.10740922
    rolled 4, 2, 2 = 8

    The sports complex, including a pool, exercise equipment, and various courts and fields has been completed, as have several more parks and another inn. Economic plans are being developed, involving the cooperation of your entire government, including the cultural analyses conducted by the counselor.

    Loco 1's engine broke down on a return trip from Fain, but it was successfully brought in on muscle-power and repaired. Loco 3 is almost complete.

    Bell, Jenvil, and Cuvio, all towns around Grennet, are requesting rail service, as is the Grennet garrison, and all four Northern border garrisons within view. Perin's government, speaking through the Conclave, wants a proposal for multiple redundant rail connections serving the entire Northern tower line.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:27 No.10740927

    Maybe, I don't know.
    Guess it is better to have full rail system first as how will they turn back? Its easy with mini-locos but with the big ones?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:28 No.10740956
    Should we trade technologies?
    I'm all for advancing the world as fast as possible.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)18:29 No.10740966
    rolled 3, 1, 4 = 8

    After full-audio radios are developed. The technology is not yet there, and they will take a while to build, anyway.

    It really depends on the length of the train and cars. A mini-loco with a short load can turn in a small radius. A full locomotive with a heavy load cannot.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:32 No.10741014
    >Bell, Jenvil, and Cuvio, all towns around Grennet, are requesting rail service, as is the Grennet garrison, and all four Northern border garrisons within view. Perin's government, speaking through the Conclave, wants a proposal for multiple redundant rail connections serving the entire Northern tower line.

    Hey, we are all for that but this will take time as we have limited skilled workforce.

    Work out similar agreements as we have with Grennet
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:35 No.10741063

    If you've ever played Transport Tycoon you'll know that you can manage a great deal on a short line if you've got a good set of signals set up and depots at each stop that can accommodate the average train on your line (these mini-locos won't be pulling a great many cars).
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:35 No.10741069
    If we have more workers could we speed up the construction of rail system?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:36 No.10741096
    Use Garnnet's trade agreement as a base for agreements with the other towns. As for the rail system supporting the military outposts, create a separate contract with the Perin government to create a separate, military-only redundant rail network. The military should like having a rail system of their own, and it won't interfere with the civilian line. Add that the government will have to provide anywhere from 35% - 50% of the workforce, and we will requirement payment of some kind for the effort.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)18:37 No.10741098
    rolled 6, 1, 5 = 12

    For the towns, that'll work fine, but the garrisons really don't have anything to trade, nor can they offer much more than a fee for use.

    Yes. It is mostly grunt-work. You could feasibly repurpose the golems, as well, but making more of those, at least at the level you're currently using, is not yet possible.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:37 No.10741109
    What else could we build in our town, or work on?
    Did we ever make those polarized sunglasses? Or any other projects we were working, thought on working during the invasion?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:39 No.10741144
    Ah, yes, administrative duties should not overtake our own science projects. Let's build that Doom Laser!
    Realistically, we might need it for when the Ice Demon comes a'knockin'.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:40 No.10741169

    Garrisons have soldiers. If they're not actively fighting, why can't they help build the lines?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:41 No.10741177
    Now that we have tons of more food, we could ask for more workers from "beggar towns" and the towns that want a rail system.

    Build more worker bulk houses and request as much as people we can.

    >For the towns, that'll work fine, but the garrisons really don't have anything to trade, nor can they offer much more than a fee for use.
    Well, I meant the towns only. Having rail-system going to garrisons works in our favor too as we can defend northern border netter that way.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:41 No.10741182
    heh, true dat
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:42 No.10741199
    Also, don't stop on expanding our farms. Do we have ranches for meat consumption? If no, we should work on that.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:44 No.10741229
    But are we going to pay them?
    Look, simply housing and feeding them might work in Dreamwood and during a famine, but we can't expect people to work without pay all the time.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:45 No.10741234

    We should do that once we're sure we can keep up with the food demands our population will need.

    And we still need to pick a currency. What do other parts of the country use? We should try to model our currency along the same lines.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)18:45 No.10741241
    rolled 5, 6, 3 = 14

    That is acceptable, as long as you're willing to use soldiers for work on the lines. The Conclave didn't think you'd suggest such a modest concession. Would you like to be paid in currency, supplies/aid, or both?

    You can suggest practically any project, and I'll tell you if it's feasible. Vasian has produced fireworks and limited-range black powder rockets, and he is also capable of building hot-air balloons.

    The polarized lenses were successfully made, and after some refinements, issued to workers in the County. There is no use yet for your speakers, given the lack of microphones or electric instruments, but the arc-lights are seeing use, and you have, in fact, constructed a rudimentary 'laser' powered by the storm knives. The only problem is that you haven't been able to manufacture lenses precise enough to focus the beam into something truly damaging. It can blind easily, though.

    That is entirely possible, but once the line is built, all they can do is maintain it. It's all about what price you're charging for use of the lines.

    Very well.

    You have several chicken coops and one 'ranch'. Expansion will proceed.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:45 No.10741243
    That could be worked into the trade agreement.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:47 No.10741278
    >The polarized lenses were successfully made
    What is the popularity of these things?

    We could use them as trade product if we haven't already.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:49 No.10741295
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    >If you've ever played Transport Tycoon
    I have. This is an approximate map of the size of the railway junctions that would be needed if we were playing transport tycoon. ^_^
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:50 No.10741314
    I'm thinking getting paid in currency, and in high-quality magical goods. Maybe some extra land or political concessions.

    I think we should put more personal efforts into our R&D. It'll help keep our mind sharp and our skills polished.
    For everyone else, they should continue with radio and locomotive technology. After that comes repeating rifles and revolvers.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:50 No.10741316
    >That is entirely possible, but once the line is built, all they can do is maintain it. It's all about what price you're charging for use of the lines.

    Shouldn't be too high, I suppose. This is military we are talking about, they will provide our protection so we shouldn't fuck them over. We will gain revenue stream from other projects soon enough anyway.
    The workforce to build the and supplies to build them.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)18:51 No.10741331
    rolled 6, 1, 6 = 13

    Perin's national currency is called the 'crown', represented by official coinage. It cannot be duplicated by alchemy, or by any unlicensed producer. This may have something to do with the runes printed on it.

    Barter systems are common in rural areas, such as this one, but the vast majority of the nation's population centers accept the crown.

    They are moderately popular outside Dreamwood, and are being exported.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:51 No.10741337
    A side note, but Transprt Tycoon is AWESOME!
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:53 No.10741360
    I think we should start a program to actively stimulate people (children specifically) to pursue scientific/intellectual endeavors. We must build up our brain force. Sure, its long term plan but the results are worth it.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:55 No.10741389
    >The only problem is that you haven't been able to manufacture lenses precise enough to focus the beam into something truly damaging

    Well, start working on that. we don't need to hunt anymore as the food problem has been dealt with.
    This will be our pet project.

    Or help out at R&D
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)18:56 No.10741415
    rolled 2, 3, 2 = 7

    What form do you wish this program to take?

    Very well. You'll work either on the laser or on general R&D projects. You can focus on another sphere of magic as well, if you want. So far, you have been practicing ice magic, alchemy, and earth magic, primarily.

    We can timeskip for more than a month, as well, if you want to see more rapid progress.
    >> Arty 06/25/10(Fri)18:57 No.10741429
    Oh hey, Frost giant quest!
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:57 No.10741431

    Seems simple enough then, we'll ask to be paid in crowns by the government so that we have a constant stream of currency independent of trade. We'll use the money to seed our economy, establish a living wage law and a modest sales tax. We'll want to also formalize social safety nets when we introduce currency to the economy. Food/shelter stipends, pension for people too old to work, that sort of thing.

    We'll want to set up basic finance courses for the citizens. It won't do to have them be unable to manage their own money.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)18:57 No.10741435
    Since the whole country is using Crowns, couldn't we just use that?
    I wouldn't think the government will be happy if we start making our own currency.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:00 No.10741477
    >What form do you wish this program to take?

    Well.. uh.. hmm
    help, guys?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:01 No.10741500
    >We'll want to set up basic finance courses for the citizens. It won't do to have them be unable to manage their own money.

    Nice thinking! Defiantly work on that.
    They would be swindled by all these "city-dwellers"
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)19:01 No.10741501
    rolled 2, 5, 2 = 9

    You'll base your economy on crowns, then. Social programs and economic education confirmed. Would you like to start moving towards a more capitalist system now?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:02 No.10741517
    For the educational system, how about increasing the quality of the courses we have at our Academy, along with higher education paths. We'll probably need to work with the College of New Aarmor for help with creating a competitive faculty. We should include competitive wages in all science and engineering sectors, especially with jobs working for the county.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:05 No.10741553
    In addition, for entertainment, see if we can write down the plots and storylines of TV shows and movies that showcased smart main characters that used science and technology. Shows like the A-Team (engineering), MacGuyver (science and engineering, and we should patent the Swiss Army Knife), and other shows.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:05 No.10741557
    Don't request as many people as possible. We should have a perpetual labor shortage. That will encourage the development of labor-saving devices and techniques on the part of the merchant classes.

    Keep the capital to labor ratio high. That keeps the common people happy.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:06 No.10741577

    The traditional way for a government to encourage that kind of behavior is with money. Grants for authors and artists who contribute culturally, bounties for particular inventions from engineers, tax breaks for businessmen, grants for scientists working in pure research (practical research is usually funded by businesses), full-ride scholarships, that sort of thing.

    Social rewards are also common. Medals, certificates of recognition, even minor perks like free train fare or a reserved box seat in the theater.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:06 No.10741579

    Some kind of programs that stimulate the children to be creative and scientific... I don't know the detail though.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)19:09 No.10741628
    rolled 1, 4, 5 = 10

    Acknowledged. Higher-quality courses and a competitive faculty. The College is already working fairly closely with you, so it shouldn't be a problem. Competitive wages, once you have wages at all, will be implemented.

    Ongoing project noted. The Swiss Army Knife, or at least something close to it, has been patented, and the multi-tool concept is floating around R&D.

    All confirmed.

    You already have trivia contests, among other incentives. Those will be ramped up, according to your specifications.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:10 No.10741635
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    This is what I think the Rail plan should look like.
    No, it's not the "Least distance" network.
    But it DOES route everything through dreamwood.
    In case it needs to be said, if everything goes through dreamwood, then we get lots more trade.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:10 No.10741644

    Taking what >>10741577 said

    Organize children scientific events where they can push forth their own projects, complete with celebration and awards for the best ones.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:13 No.10741692
    The County Science Fair! Once we have a good educational system running, promote it big, almost as big as the Harvest Festival or New Year's. Cash prizes, fame, and for those competing in the Professional bracket, plum R&D assignments.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:14 No.10741697
    Umm.. its highly ineffective for increasing the economy of the whole country. You should know that Dreamwood is at the northern border and that map you have is only a fraction of the whole country.

    I think it is better to connect everything as efficiently as possible even if it doesn't give us as much profit. But stimulating the whole economy is also a must.

    We will put Dreamwood in the center of the network from our region though.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:14 No.10741708

    Maybe have the neighboring town participate also?
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)19:16 No.10741731
    rolled 3, 1, 6 = 10

    You'll go with this, unless there are objections.

    You got it. Science fairs, with desirable prizes.

    If you want to expand that program to other towns as well, that can be done.

    Timeskip? Month or more?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:17 No.10741758
    Looks like there are objections so can it for now.
    Perhaps someone else can think of something?
    I just really want LOTS OF TOURISM flowing into dreamwood, because LOTS OF TOURISM = LOTS OF PUBLICITY = LOTS OF IMMIGRATION and LOTS OF MONEY
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:19 No.10741795
    Go with a more efficient rail network rather than forcing everything through Dreamwood. Bolstering the entire nation's economy will help more.

    Also, timeskip 1 month.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:19 No.10741797
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    >So far, you have been practicing ice magic, alchemy, and earth magic, primarily.
    "These intradimensional gates have been proven to stimulate Trade and Tourism. The device, however, has not."
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:20 No.10741824

    >You'll go with this, unless there are objections.

    I don't really like it. The previous suggestions were better imo. This one hampers the economy stimulation just that we can get richer. Getting rich was not our plan at all
    >> Arty 06/25/10(Fri)19:21 No.10741839
    While we would deffinitely end up with a great deal of trade there are downsides.
    1) the amount of time and resources wasted by someone that might have needed to go somewhere closer. (Eg between fairnest and Merdis)
    and 2) the fact that it would likely cause Dreamwood's population to spiral out of control.
    >> Arty 06/25/10(Fri)19:22 No.10741880
    Yes objection. see
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)19:23 No.10741913
    rolled 3, 4, 6 = 13

    The lines will take the most efficient route, then. You can always alter them, of course.

    Timeskip proceeding.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:24 No.10741934
    Getting rich isn't our end-goal, but we need money and resources to fund our projects and what we want to do. So we need to get rich before we can have our steampunk future-city.
    But yes, hampering overall economic growth is not good, because that means less people to buy our stuff.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:26 No.10741971
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    How about this?
    Do note that all rail carriages in this sense are REQUIRED to have tourism advertisement for Dreamwood, though.
    Yellow = Lower priority lines to be added later
    Red = main line
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:27 No.10742002
    Its better and is similar to what was planned before.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:29 No.10742035

    Waitan for OP
    >> Arty 06/25/10(Fri)19:29 No.10742038
    My machine is in the shop or I'd draw up another map. Taking straight lines all out from Dreamwood means we'll need a LOT more track to lay down along with more railway bridges across rivers. Existing roads are there for a reason. Try to keep them semi-nearby where possible.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:30 No.10742048
    What was planned before?

    Also, if we're doing this, we're going to NEED a 2-way portal between Dreamwood and Merdis. I mean look at all that fuckin' trade it's getting. Motherfucking Merdis reaping the benefits of OUR labor!
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:32 No.10742086
    Hey, how about creating a series of courses at our Academy focusing on agriculture, ecology, and environmental sustainability? It would be taught by druids or other ecological types. Their basic textbook could be "The Modern Druid".
    "Do not be discouraged when Man's creations overtake Nature, for Man is a creature of Nature; where Man goes, Nature follows".
    The courses would to teach sustainability and ecologically balanced practices; basically attempting bypass the environmental damage caused by our own breakneck pace through the Industrial and Atomic Ages.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:33 No.10742118
    Previous threads had some plans, I didn't save the pictures maybe someone can post them for reference?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:34 No.10742134
    That is also a great idea!
    I support
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:38 No.10742215
    This way we can also head off the inevitable backlash from druids and others that wouldn't be happy with massive factories belching smog popping up all over the place.
    Luddites and tree-hugging hippies are one thing; luddies and tree-huggers that can back up their threats with magic is a whole nother problem.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:41 No.10742265

    What druids? The guys from the magic college that were pissed off at us?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:41 No.10742279
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    Orange - tertiary importance
    Red - secondary importance
    Black - primary importance
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:44 No.10742330
    No, that was the Geology Dept. of some magic college.
    I'm talking about the druids we have employed now, and any of their colleagues that are in Perin as well as neighboring nations.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:45 No.10742370
    That black line should be COMPLETELY FREE for passengers and cargoes under 200kg of weight, and trafficked well enough to keep up with all demand.

    Hell, that Black line should be an aperture science intradimensional gate. That would be awesome, having a massive city LITERALLY adjacent.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:46 No.10742373
    Oh, and of course, any local nature gods or spirits, too.
    Have to keep in mind that in FantasyLand, the environment WILL fuck your shit up if you piss it off enough.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)19:46 No.10742393
    rolled 6, 2, 3 = 11

    Another month has passed, bringing you into summer. The first harvest of the year has been collected, enabling you to do away with rationing entirely and embrace a return to normalcy. What supplies you can spare are being passed on to the four towns under your wing, and their best and brightest are being given up in return. The connection to Sollis has been completed, and the Grennet line is almost done. Agreements have been made with Bell, Jenvil, and Cuvio, as well as the closer garrisons, which will be providing whoever they can spare as a workforce, with the government's approval. Under the rather incredible provision Bem was able to arrange, Dreamwood will be responsible for linking up all of the Northern towers and garrisons on a separate military line, and it will also be partly responsible for the administration. For this, you're collecting a hefty fee, the government is providing half the workers, and they are also paying the full 'shelf' price for each loco required.

    Generator tech has been acquired from New Aarmour, in return for locomotive designs. The first microphone has been produced by R&D, but it is very bulky. Advancements in battery tech have reduced the size of pulse radios for a given operation time. A breakthrough in lens design has given you a viable, portable laser weapon, but at the moment, only magical power sources have enough energy to fire it. Temporary 'apartment' worker housing has been built in the three towns within your borders, to supplement the standard houses that are always being constructed. The population has now exceeded 400.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)19:47 No.10742413
    rolled 3, 4, 6 = 13

    The rapid influx of currency has made it possible to begin switching over to a mixed economic system. Bem's advice is driving adjustment plans, and the complexity of it all makes you think you'd better leave it to more experienced administrators. The Swiss Army Knife (Dreamwood Blade) is selling well everywhere you've introduced it, interest in science and higher education is increasing, and you are exporting incentive programs to nearby towns, attracting more scholars and potential scholars to the County.

    The Bernoulli Effect has been replicated in a university within the government's network. Rudimentary designs for airframes are being proposed.

    DCE has discovered a businessman in Fain attempting to replicate and sell patented Dreamwood products without authorization. Orders?

    Your mineral squad has discovered something of immense interest: an area of porous rock at the far Eastern edge of your territory holds a black, extremely flammable substance. If their analysis is correct, this 'field' extends much farther to the East, with only a tiny part of its mass within the County.

    The Conclave gloats that black powder has greatly increased the army's effectiveness in Forus. Something akin to a mortar is being experimented with by their own version of R&D.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:47 No.10742414
    Geology Dept is a fag
    I bet they feel sorry that they called us names and ran us off now that University and us are beating their asses at scientific endeavors.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)19:49 No.10742454
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    rolled 2, 6, 4 = 12

    You already had something like this; you will further encourage its development, and get some of the druids to crew it.

    A map from previous threads is enclosed, to assist in rail planning.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:50 No.10742462

    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:51 No.10742476
    Did they discover coal? Thats cool.

    And for the merchant in Fain, deal with him as most appropriate. Report to the government and put a hefty fine or something?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:52 No.10742508
    It's a bit outdated since we're going direct to evermain now.

    >DCE has discovered a businessman in Fain attempting to replicate and sell patented Dreamwood products without authorization. Orders?
    Congratulate DCE.
    Show up in person at guy selling cheap knock offs and be like "Why hello there good sir, there are no less than 10 different ways I could accidentally kill you right now! Kindly stop selling cheap ripoffs, thank you! :)"
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)19:54 No.10742531
    rolled 5, 3, 5 = 13

    All of these, aside from priests, are underway.

    Where would you like to get priests from, would you like to have some trained in Dreamwood, and do you want to build a temple or two?

    You are already mining coal. This substance is liquid. It's most likely petroleum.

    Bem wants his business taken over and given to Dreamwood. Considering how much profit you're making Fain's citizens, he might just be able to get that done. The standard penalty would be a confiscation of all the patented products, and a fine.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:55 No.10742555

    It's not coal, because these dudes have had coal before. This could be crude oil we're looking at here.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:57 No.10742593
    Do what Bem thinks is the best... but I hope it will not lead to some vengeful feelings or something.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)19:57 No.10742598

    As much fun as it would be to show up in person and scare the shit out of him, let's send him a cease and desist notice first, with an invitation to negotiate a payment plan for the back-pay on the royalties for the goods he sold before, and option to properly license the products for future sales. If he tries to run or otherwise behaves in a belligerent manner, we will go through the proper channels with our grievance.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:00 No.10742633
    > an area of porous rock at the far Eastern edge of your territory holds a black, extremely flammable substance.

    Anyway, orders:
    Finish rail line from Sollis to Grennet
    Build rail line from Evermain to Strade
    Build rail line from Grennet to Cuvio
    Start building rail line from Dreamwood to Merdis via Streamlow.

    In addition to acquiring Farms, Lumber, Mining, Construction teams needed to build all the tools and buildings required, entertainment, religion, health facilities, and expanding the Science! buildings as needed,
    Focus all spare efforts on the construction of Railways and Locomotives.
    R&D should focus on Locomotives.

    Construct a Merchant's Academy; sort of a Training ground for merchants and traders. Introduce the concept of a Corporation.
    Have the Corporation, run by Bem, get shops up in all the towns connected by our rail network.
    The Corporation's main goal is buying goods cheap, and selling goods for profit, at any town possible.
    >> Harmless 06/25/10(Fri)20:00 No.10742641
    >businessman in Fain
    Bring him in and question him personally if we can.
    If not have him arrested.

    Attempt to buy out the land from whoever owns it.

    >Weapons R&D
    Trade them completed designs of both field artillery and mortars for whatever we can get. More crows and magelocks are a priority.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:00 No.10742644
    I like this. It gives us a chance to punish him without actually punishing him. If he doesn't take the deal, do what Bem suggests. And threaten to blacklist him in other cities if he doesn't take the deal.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)20:00 No.10742647
    rolled 1, 5, 6 = 12

    How about you handle it as >>10742598 says, and let Bem take over if there are problems?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:03 No.10742680
    Build a Railway Construction Yard.
    For faster construction of Locomotives, Carriages, and prefabricating sections of Rail.
    Carry the prefab rail sections by locomotive+carriage to where work is taking place.

    Establish the concept of a Trading Company or a Corporation, and build its Corporate Headquarters and a Merchant Training Academy in Dreamwood.
    >> Harmless 06/25/10(Fri)20:03 No.10742681
    Sounds good.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:03 No.10742697
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:05 No.10742728
    Bem Smith's Trading Company
    The Great Maya Railway
    Northern Academy for Science and Engineering
    Dreamwood Counter Intelligence

    Let us not only Industrialisation, but also Economisation, Espionageisation, and Educationisation. Maximumisation!
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:06 No.10742743
    We should start with our industry town.
    Build different workshops, allocate lots of land for each one (so that they can be upgraded easily) put specialists to make goods and stuff. Slowly they will grow into proper factories as we advance.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)20:06 No.10742747
    rolled 5, 6, 6 = 17

    All confirmed, but having R&D focus on locomotives will slow radio development, just when you'd gotten microphones. Is this alright?

    The land under which the oil sits is owned by Strade and Evermain. If they know the potential this resource represents, they will probably charge quite a high price. Not to mention, the deposit runs right under both towns, if the projections are accurate, so it would be impossible for you to buy it all.

    I'll need a consensus on trading military designs. You do not have completed designs for any kind of artillery, but the concepts you do have should be better than what they've got.

    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:06 No.10742755
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:07 No.10742764
    What would we need for Maya to learn how to make portal technology?
    Even a 10cm x 10cm hole between places barely a km away would be DAMN helpful in sending rail sections from an existing rail section to a location where rail is being laid.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:08 No.10742791
    >but having R&D focus on locomotives will slow radio development, just when you'd gotten microphones. Is this alright?
    I, personally, think a good locomotive will speed up railway construction, railway transportation, and trade of all sorts.
    Trade really is the pathway to power in campaigns like this, I think. Free flow of goods, of skilled persons, and of knowledge.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:10 No.10742818
    We don't even have portals in today's world, and teleportation is something that gods are needed for.

    Do a side-drill and suck out all the oil without telling them anything. The companies in our world have done an excellent job at showing how to get oil at minimum risk. Except BP.

    Don't call ourselves Dreamland Petroleum.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:11 No.10742852
    We need drawfaggotry of a Scientist, an Engineer, a Businessman, and a Spy standing in a circle and fist-bumping.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)20:12 No.10742856
    rolled 1, 6, 2 = 9

    The 'land' comment brings to mind: You have a large bunker underneath Dreamwood, as well as a tunnel-boring spirit. It is well within your capacity to expand industrial and other concerns underground.

    Teleportation is a divine art, usually very difficult to do without the assistance or favor of gods. Permanent links between various points are unheard of, except in storybooks. If you're aiming for this, it would be a good idea to form a magical version of R&D.

    If there are no objections, you will drill into the part of the deposit on your land. A pipeline or rail line will be necessary to transport the oil to refineries, unless you want to build another town over there.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:12 No.10742864
    >I'll need a consensus on trading military designs. You do not have completed designs for any kind of artillery, but the concepts you do have should be better than what they've got.

    What are we trading for anyway?
    We could get dat petroleum I guess. Or we could keep silent about it and slowly acquire those towns into our County
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:13 No.10742870
    Let's call ourselves a company name that screams "Friendly outward image but subversive inside practices that satan himself would be squeamish at"
    how about "Burning Solutions".
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:13 No.10742876

    I think we should finish the radio research. We want to have broadcast ability and crystal set radios. We're nearly there with our spark-gap radio and microphone.

    We should introduce the idea of buying mineral rights to land, and then buy what can as cheaply as we can in all directions. It will still be expensive, but it will let us buy the rights to the oil deposits without giving away our knowledge of it. If the few people who know about the deposit can keep their yaps shut we'll even be able to ameliorate the worst of the potential resentment and bad feelings later when oil becomes profitable.

    We should trade artillery concepts now that they're ready for some of them. We want artillery pieces in the world, even if we don't make them ourselves. That Frost Demon is still out there.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:15 No.10742902
    >Teleportation is a divine art, usually very difficult to do without the assistance or favor of gods. Permanent links between various points are unheard of, except in storybooks. If you're aiming for this, it would be a good idea to form a magical version of R&D.

    Hm. Are we able to make things go faster, and making them more reliable, by use of magic?
    Maya should research into the arcane arts of PAINTIN' STUFF RED OR BLUE YA GITZ.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:15 No.10742909
    What will we use the oil for? Once we get it, we separate it into its separate fractions. We'll get Gasoline, kerosene, naptha, diesel, various lubricating oils, and bitumen. Gas is derp, kerosene is for lighting and heating, naptha is for chemicals and plastics, diesel is derp, various fuels and lubricants are useful, and bitumen is used in making asphalt.

    How will we utilize all this?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:16 No.10742926
    >It is well within your capacity to expand industrial and other concerns underground.

    Oh, that is awesome.
    Should be implemented then.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:17 No.10742941

    Plastics, dyes, synthetic drugs, feedstock for all manner of industrial processes, and more. Oil is very useful.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:17 No.10742942
    Inb4 court intrigue tries to get us assassinated to stop our growing influence.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)20:19 No.10742986
    rolled 4, 2, 5 = 11

    You can trade for practically anything at this point. The Conclave is directly channeling government officials, and they have repeatedly proven that they will make superb deals. It is also clear that they are profiting quite a lot from their association with you.

    Anyone else for seeking mineral rights?

    Your enchanters are able to do both, yes. Those effects do not require a color change.

    Considering the knowledge base you represent, it is very unlikely anyone from the government will attempt to kill you. The better option would be enslavement or mind-reading.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:19 No.10742990
    >We'll get Gasoline, kerosene, naptha, diesel, various lubricating oils, and bitumen.

    Locomotives, Lamps, Petrochemical manufacturing, Locomotives, Petrochemical manufacturing, Runways.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:20 No.10742995
    DM already stated that the towns surrounding could be included under our administration depending how good we do. They can whine all they want bu if the Lord and the Conclave give a go-ahead they can't do anything.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:20 No.10743009
    >Your enchanters are able to do both, yes. Those effects do not require a color change.
    Well, let's learn to do that. Might as well make stuff work faster/stronger/more reliably
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:21 No.10743027
    Rubber too I think, no? I think our bicycles lack rubber for wheels... but I'm not too sure.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:21 No.10743036
    "Holy shit, the Giant's influence is growing!"
    "What's her plans?"
    "To encourage Trade, Learning, and Production!"
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:22 No.10743041
    Oh, also, DM check the what the citizens are concerned at the moment.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:22 No.10743055
    Inb4 court intrigue gets us mind-raped and enslaved.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:24 No.10743078
    In during we're being mind controlled and enslaved already and don't know it yet.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:24 No.10743082
    roads, cars, plastics, cheap heating

    all of those are essential

    we are in the far fucking north
    its cold so we need indoor heating

    cars are nice and although not as good as trains in general can be adapted into tanks and mobile artilery you dip

    asphalt is awsome and will improve roads 100 fold making better private transportation

    plastics are good for everything and high end science uses the fuck out of it

    thats all really important stuff
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:25 No.10743092
    >Anyone else for seeking mineral rights?
    Works for me.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:25 No.10743101
    Good luck for them. If they are smart they wouldn't want attract the wrath of all destroying War-Goddess Maya
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:26 No.10743116

    Yes you can synthesize rubber from petroleum. Knowing that it can be done goes a long way toward enabling the process to be rediscovered.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)20:27 No.10743129
    rolled 5, 5, 6 = 16

    Very well. They will work on this. I'm assuming you want to enhance the locos first.

    That is correct. Rubber is very hard to come by, so they have leather tires.

    Money, primarily. Now that you're finally introducing capitalist principles, everyone wants the best they can get. With all of the trade contracts, not to mention the government ones, and Bem's network, Dreamwood is actually fairly rich. No one wants to be left behind when people start getting paid. Your economists, and, in fact, all of your government officials, are being lobbied.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:27 No.10743143
    >I'm assuming you want to enhance the locos first.
    That's a good idea, if we can't enchant a Corporation (we probably can't, but who knows? It's magic, you don't gotta explain shit)
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:28 No.10743161
    >Anyone else for seeking mineral rights?

    I say we try outright buying out these towns and expanding our territory. Trade the mentioned war tech if necessary.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)20:29 No.10743186
    rolled 1, 5, 4 = 10

    Perhaps not the whole corporation, but certainly its component parts. You can charm workers, tools, structures, practically anything that exists. Of course, there are limits to the usefulness of such magic, but it can be very effective in the right places.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:30 No.10743198
    Introduce taxes of 30% of people's income (or so), use that to buy food and housing from whoever owns it, and give it freely to people. Additionally, use the tax money to fund public works, such as railroads, science, and education.
    A "Corporation" or a Religion should be tax exempt for now. ;)
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:30 No.10743202

    >are being lobbied

    Lobbying is fucking bad. Its just institutionalized bribery. Its illegal in almost every country in the world.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:32 No.10743239
    >You can charm workers
    How long would it take to charm the 50 most important people to dreamwood?
    ... And, uh, would doing so involve anything the "sage for fetishquest" fags would spam us for?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:33 No.10743252

    Alright, we should set up magic R&D. And some kind of sub R&D which works to implement new tech with magic.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:33 No.10743256

    That's US style "wine 'em, dine 'em, give them everything but an actual envelope of money" lobbying.

    There's also, "we voted you in and we want this, ok" lobbying.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:33 No.10743257
    *Shrug* It works for almost all things, and for everything else, there's a Basic Human Standard Of Living to ensure them greedy greedy companies can't make people unhappy.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:33 No.10743261
    no trading war tech
    anything else but war tech

    that should be our policy
    infact we should keep away from even implementing our own war tech
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:34 No.10743271
    30% is pretty high, no?
    Ask for economists advice
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:35 No.10743280
    Meh, they will figure it out sooner or later. Better to reap the rewards while we can.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:35 No.10743281
    >30% income tax
    Holy shit. The only people paying that kind of tax in America are those making 200k/year. And these people probably aren't making that much in equivalent currency.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:36 No.10743300
    They both are bad. We don't need private corporations controlling government. The government should control private corporations.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)20:37 No.10743320
    rolled 5, 5, 1 = 11

    An effective income of 70% should be acceptable to most, especially those who have never had a real income at all.

    That depends on what you want the charms to do. You can enhance strength, speed, intelligence, stamina, jump height, practically anything.

    Normally, it only involves a simple spell or wearing a charmed item. No... interesting rituals are involved. The effect usually wears off over time.

    Very well.

    That is generally less than the country's government asks for, and since most of it's going to a 'good' cause, it shouldn't be despised as much as taxes typically are. Obviously, there has to be a balance if you want to keep your citizens relatively happy while providing for everyone and running things smoothly.

    As I said, as long as you continue to expand, keeping it up won't be a problem. The oil alone could probably pay for Basic Living, once tech reaches the proper level.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:39 No.10743350
    The socialism is strong in this thread.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)20:41 No.10743380
    rolled 4, 2, 6 = 12

    As communism was the rule when Dreamwood was small, poor, and isolated, so socialism can work efficiently under certain conditions. There is no economic system that is 'the best' at all possible times.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:41 No.10743397
    A token tax is a bad idea. They'll get used to it and rail against any raises, no matter how sensible they are.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:42 No.10743413
    Alright 30% then

    No, I just don't want our place to become corrupt. We put shackles on them so that hey don't go our of control. Or at least have all important businesses nationalized (which they effectively are) so that others don't have much power.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:44 No.10743442
    > Obviously, there has to be a balance if you want to keep your citizens relatively happy while providing for everyone and running things smoothly.
    This is true. There needs to be enough taxes for the Government to buy enough food, housing, health, and entertainment for everyone to be happy in life - while still having enough money left-over to fund government projects.
    It may well be socialism, but economic growth doesn't matter for very much if your most populous economic class can't actually partake in it. :P
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:46 No.10743471
    At the moment it isn't full capitalism anyway. The rail industry, the science industry, and the merchant's corporation are all government owned.
    This is what is meant by slow reforms. People will form their own businesses in time, but for now, we employ damn near everyone. As long as we ensure they don't start dying or getting sick, we should be okay.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:46 No.10743472
    So what do you propose?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:47 No.10743485
    >A token tax is a bad idea. They'll get used to it and rail against any raises, no matter how sensible they are.
    You forget that this is a capitalist dictatorship so we can simply adopt a funny walk, raise taxes, and say "haters gonna hate".
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)20:49 No.10743533
    rolled 6, 2, 1 = 9

    However, that doesn't mean your citizens will simply accept and pay it. You could well use force to keep them in line, as you did when tensions last rose beyond your control, but that could not last forever.

    Shall we timeskip?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:50 No.10743547
    Gimme a summary of what's going to happen. chances are the answer is "yes".
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:52 No.10743582
    Those should stay government owned imo plus the oil industry. Those are too important to let out of our hands.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)20:58 No.10743693
    rolled 3, 4, 5 = 12

    Aside from general expansion, you will start buying up mineral rights, start building a drill in the East, implement taxes and a Basic Living Stipend, incorporate Bem's network, start a magical R&D department, give charmed items to Dreamwood's most important people, expand industrial structures underground, and charm the locomotives. I may have missed something, but that's about it.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)20:59 No.10743708
    Can't we just buy those towns (through conclave or government) rather than buying the minerals?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:02 No.10743743
    By offering our radio teach and mortar (and/or artillery) concepts
    >> Researcher Sam 06/25/10(Fri)21:02 No.10743749
    Don't know if this is still going on, but I just finished last Saturday's thread and am about to start today's. Just want to say that it's good to see Frost Giant Quest back and troll-free. Keep on trucking SubProc.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)21:03 No.10743765
    rolled 1, 2, 4 = 7

    You can't just buy them, at least not now. You would have to get the government to declare them part of your County, which would take time, and they would obviously want something in return. Not to mention that it would not exactly endear you to the citizens of those towns.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)21:04 No.10743780
    rolled 1, 3, 6 = 10

    This is probably what you'd need to give up, yes.

    Thanks. Good to see you again.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:04 No.10743782
    Alright, just buy the minerals then.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:07 No.10743832
    well, gogo timeskip.
    We're still producing more Railways and more Locomotives, yes?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:07 No.10743835
    Alright, skippan time
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:15 No.10743950
    Where's them skippans?
    >> Harmless 06/25/10(Fri)21:18 No.10744010
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    Just something I made in paint real quick.

    The red lines are infantry support. The large black circles are heavy artillery, and the smaller ones are light artillery.
    The green lines are their arc of fire.

    This was a strategy used back in nam by the US Army.

    Send this to the military as well as the designs if we do that.

    The idea for what this is, is you have 3 main batterys that can fire into the main battle field. Each is protected by a mix of light and heavy infantry, and backed up by at least 3 light artillery guns that can take out anyone attempting a flanking maneuver.

    Typically you would have a rear guard as well.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)21:20 No.10744032
    rolled 4, 6, 3 = 13

    An additional month has brought you to the end of the 5th, halfway through the year. Steadily increasing crop yields will see your granaries filled before winter. The Grennet line is complete, branching to both Cuvio and Jenvil. A Western garrison line is under construction, using primarily military labor, and a line through Streamlow to Merdis is also being built. Various courses on 'sustainability' and 'minimizing ecological damage' are being taught in the central campus. A priest has been hired to handle spiritual matters, and furnished with a temple. The counterfeiter in Fain has been dealt with, and is now working closely with Bem, but not under his control. DCE is looking into his associates for possible unlawful activities.

    The first voice radio transmission was made yesterday. It was frightfully low quality, but understandable. Short-range audio transmitters and receivers are now available, though they cannot do both at the same time and there is only one 'band'. A Rail Yard has been constructed, in addition to Locos 4 and 5. A Merchant's Academy has been built in the main town, and Bem's network has become a corporation, headquartered in Dreamwood. Mineral rights have been acquired in portions of Strade's and Evermain's territory, and a drill is being built on the Eastern edge, with a pipeline planned to run to the industrial town.

    Dreamwood's most effective people are receiving 'gifts' that just happen to be charmed with miscellaneous enhancement effects. R&D#2 is underway, researching various magical disciplines and teleportation. R&D#3 is working on combining technology and magic. All locomotives have been magically enhanced to increase their speed and reliability. All major industrial structures now extend at least partially underground, and the tunnel spirit has been coaxed into running subterranean lines to both the industrial and farming centers. It might be possible to have it build a pipe right into the oil field.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:20 No.10744042
    Hey, I've seen that! The guns on the beaches of normandy were arranged like that. So that's why they did it!
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:21 No.10744064
    >The first voice radio transmission was made yesterday.

    Historical event!
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)21:22 No.10744079
    rolled 6, 3, 2 = 11

    Taxes and the BLS are now a reality. They have both been received reasonably well, considering.

    The leadership in Fain is offering you all rights to a sizable chunk of its Northern territory, all the way up to the tower line. The price is their own rail terminal, a few cartloads of iron, and a sum Bem calls 'paltry'.

    According to the Conclave, the nation directly North, Cyreth, has received word of rail tech (or been told directly), and wishes to negotiate for their own lines. Given the distance to their closest town, it will be difficult to run anything up there in a timely manner.

    An immigrant hunter has been slain by a cougar. The animal was captured but not killed.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:22 No.10744085
    Expand the farming fields, encourage immigration from the towns linked to the network.
    If none of the other towns have any requests of us, we'd better expand towards Merdis.
    Do we have any options for Hunting, or doing something else to cover for the food shortages that winter creates?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:23 No.10744100
    >An immigrant hunter has been slain by a cougar. The animal was captured but not killed.
    How old is she, and what made her turn to murder?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:24 No.10744117
    >The leadership in Fain is offering you all rights to a sizable chunk of its Northern territory, all the way up to the tower line. The price is their own rail terminal, a few cartloads of iron, and a sum Bem calls 'paltry'.
    It's probably worth it. Are there any offers we'd have to give up to make this happen?
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)21:25 No.10744125
    rolled 1, 4, 3 = 8

    Ranches are being constructed and stocked, to provide a year-round food source. Aside from those, there is not a lot you can do besides hunt, though you might want to look into subterranean crops, since you have that tunnel spirit to clear you underground spaces.
    >> Harmless 06/25/10(Fri)21:26 No.10744152
    Similar formations have been used for a while acctualy.
    Also HERPDERP, the bottom left 2 light batterys should be facing opposite directions.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)21:28 No.10744175
    rolled 3, 1, 3 = 7

    Two or three years. It is lean, but not starving. Why it chose to attack a human is unknown. No one feels like it should be eaten, but the leader of the hunting party that got it wants to know if you want it stuffed.

    No. You won't be giving up anything, really, though there will be a bit of a dent in steel production when the iron is transferred.
    >> Harmless 06/25/10(Fri)21:30 No.10744205
    Let's leave it to him to decide what to do with it.

    A dent in production is worth more land.
    I vote let's go for it.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:31 No.10744210

    Have it examined for enchantments or other meddling before you have it put down.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)21:34 No.10744261
    rolled 4, 2, 5 = 11

    There is nothing out of the ordinary about the animal. It seems the hunter was just unlucky. Fortunately, it will never have the opportunity to kill again.

    Land acquired. I'm assuming you want your surveyors to visit it as soon as possible.

    Do you want to continue improving the radio or switch back to locomotives?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:34 No.10744265
    Send a probing party to that territory to see if there is anything valuable there.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:35 No.10744271

    Probably won't do any good, but you never know. This one was a pretty shifty thing to be able to sneak up on one of OUR hunters. How often are cougars spotted in this territory?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:35 No.10744277
    >Two or three years. It is lean, but not starving. Why it chose to attack a human is unknown. No one feels like it should be eaten, but the leader of the hunting party that got it wants to know if you want it stuffed.
    ... Oh, a LITERAL Cougar, as in a predatory cat, not a horny old human woman.
    Durrrrrrrrrrrr @ self.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:37 No.10744315
    rolled 21 = 21

    Let us device (1d100)% of our research to the locomotives, and (100 - 1d100)% of our research to radio
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:37 No.10744324
    move back to researching actual locomotives and save the radio upgrades for the backburner and rainy days.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:38 No.10744338

    Have the findings about the animal made part of the public record. If we aren't already keeping track of deaths as part of our bureaucracy, now's the time to do so.

    I think we should have rudimentary broadcast and crystal set technologies before we switch back to better railroad techs.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:38 No.10744343
    Locos, they fuel our economy much better.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:38 No.10744350
    Might as well survey it.
    Keep expanding farms and ranches; now that our industry is developing and we're socioeconomically stable, we can afford a few more settlers, but we must have food for them first.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:39 No.10744369
    lold, I thought you were joking
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)21:44 No.10744469
    rolled 3, 4, 6 = 13

    Not often. They are quite uncommon, which might explain why the hunter was taken by surprise. His throat was opened before he could react.

    Very well. You've resisted the urge to set up a 'Ministry of Death', but those statistics are being filed.

    Expansion will continue.

    For now, locomotives and radios will receive roughly equal attention. The arrival of more scholars makes it possible for you to research multiple projects simultaneously with a good return on all. Of course, you can continue to use it to speed research in one or a few areas.

    Anything else? How about the Cyreth rail?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:45 No.10744490
    >According to the Conclave, the nation directly North, Cyreth, has received word of rail tech (or been told directly), and wishes to negotiate for their own lines. Given the distance to their closest town, it will be difficult to run anything up there in a timely manner

    If they are willing to provide ALL of the workforce, why not? We could expand our MegaCorp to other countries. Now is a good time to start as any other.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:46 No.10744515
    >Very well. You've resisted the urge to set up a 'Ministry of Death', but those statistics are being filed

    Ahahah, Ministry of Death would have been pretty cool. Do we have Ministry of Music (and culture) yet?
    >> Harmless 06/25/10(Fri)21:47 No.10744534
    Hmmm, Cyreth.
    Can we get some background info on them?

    Also do we have any way to contact them? We could ask if they want to send a representative down and get some use out of the embassy we own.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:47 No.10744541
    Are there any other concerns except "money" and "immigration" ?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:48 No.10744548
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    So, for entertainment, the people were looking for fights and mock battles? What if we combined the two? Pro Wrestling would probably be ideal as a means of entertaining the masses, and would provide us that much more tourism interest. Pic related.

    If you really want to step it up to the next level, look up Lucha VaVoom.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:49 No.10744566
    Can you post rough updated world map?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:49 No.10744581
    Ah yeah, its gathering dust there
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:50 No.10744590
    I say begin construction of a rail up towards Cyreth. Perhaps a rail stop located at one of the towers along the way, or some kind of terminal station that is agreed to be neutral. I'm sure that both the Perin and Cyreth governments will appreciate having a waystation where both governments can check cargo for taxable items.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:53 No.10744644
    How is our independent golem production going?
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)21:53 No.10744647
    rolled 3, 1, 3 = 7

    Yes, you have a Ministry of Culture. It has been handling much of the sociological side of things.

    Cyreth is a relatively poor, small nation, which suffers from a rather severe climate. Most of its Eastern half is completely uninhabited. It barely produces enough food to be self-sufficient, but its land is rich in precious metals, coal, and various 'normal' metals, as well. It has a good relationship with Perin, its primary trading partner and ally. The only reason Forus never annexed it is because Perin stood in the way.

    The Conclave can get a message to them, but their capital is rather far away. It might take two months for an emissary to get here, much less get back.

    Yes, but those tend to be primary. Many citizens are concerned about job skills; at this pace, much of what they learn might be obsolete in a year.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:53 No.10744662
    Has there been any progress on repeating rifles, breach-loading mechanisms, and revolvers yet, or is that still something on the back burner? If it is, could we take part in it as a personal project?
    Our industrial technology is good, but we don't want to fall behind in military technology. We should always be one step ahead of the Conclave and Perin.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:56 No.10744711
    >Yes, but those tend to be primary. Many citizens are concerned about job skills; at this pace, much of what they learn might be obsolete in a year.

    Is there anything we can do about that? And why do they think so?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:56 No.10744718
    To help alleviate people's concerns about job security, and since the County is the largest employer, perhaps offer worker education incentives and programs at our Academy? Citizens will be encouraged to take a few weeks off a year to keep their skills up-to-date, and their jobs will be guaranteed while they're away at training. This way we can maintain a highly skilled workforce and provide job security.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)21:57 No.10744731
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    rolled 4, 1, 1 = 6

    The sports complex has the facilities for this. Some interested parties are attempting to form a league. You'll encourage them.

    This is the world map, but it hasn't been updated since I first posted it, since no more information about the whole planet has arisen. Were you looking for something else?

    Do you want it tied into the military tower line, or built separately? Since the tower line will extend all the way across the Northern border, it will go pretty much right to Cyreth's heart.

    Slowly. You now have seven water-carriers and a crude work golem to supplement the fifty superior ones. It's fairly tricky work.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)21:59 No.10744760
    Let's begin making plans for that railway up north now. It will take a while for their rep to come down and negotiate, and we should be ready to begin work as soon as the deal is struck.
    Since any work would begin a month away from winter at least, I suggest that when the time comes we convert a majority of our golem workforce to rail construction northwards, with human workers to supervise and perform the more delicate or complex work.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:00 No.10744788
    Well, I meant the map of our region. With new rail-lines and borders.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:01 No.10744798
    Good idea.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:01 No.10744800
    The Perin-Cyreth Line should be separate from the Perin Military Rail Network. It'll help to not raise tensions (who wants to give their neighbor's military, even an ally's, straight access to your own capitol), and since it'll be more work, it means more money for us in construction fees.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:02 No.10744818
    Have there been contacts with nations from other continents?
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)22:03 No.10744833
    rolled 5, 6, 1 = 12

    Yes to all three. A standardized repeating rifle has been developed, with interchangeable parts and the molds to match. A breech-loader has been built, but it is not easy to use and the design is being refined. Revolver rifle and pistol prototype have been made, but not refined yet.

    You can take firearms on as your personal project, but that will lessen the work you're doing on the laser.

    Unless you want to restrain the pace of change or alter the education system, your citizens' knowledge will quickly be outpaced by new technological developments. You are packing hundreds of years of progress into a decade or so; there is no time to adjust.

    Campus education is already mandatory for all citizens. Do you want to change this?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:03 No.10744839
    Oh, not only will we provide the classes for free for Dreamwood citizens, but we will provide them to anyone who wants to take them for a fee. Residents of towns and areas from within our federation will receive a significant discount, a perk, if you will, of being within our economic alliance.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:04 No.10744867
    >You can take firearms on as your personal project, but that will lessen the work you're doing on the laser.

    More like, construct personal firearms with custom calibers and such.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:05 No.10744872
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    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:06 No.10744892
    Hmm, dunno about education. I guess try to implement more effective style of education?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:06 No.10744896
    Let's build a rail to Merdis and Alamis before anything else.
    Those are two very big towns, and we'd benefit a lot from being connected to them.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:07 No.10744900
    I meant specialized training classes (examples from Earth would be: Microsoft Active Directory Bootcamp, RedHat Linux System Administration 101 and 303, Cisco Network Engineer Certification) to help bring workers up to speed on any new development in their industry or field of work. This would be in addition to their normal Academy courses.
    Citizens would be allowed to take time off from work to complete these 1 or 2 week courses, and their jobs would be guaranteed to be there for them when they finish.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:07 No.10744914
    We should have a map of the country somewhere. Can DM post it?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:08 No.10744935
    Uhh, we have trade agreements with towns in the west. They are the priority or we'll be breaching the agreement.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)22:08 No.10744936
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    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:12 No.10745002
    How about the new territory we got from Fain?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:12 No.10745009
    Strade and Olton wanted help, didn't they?
    Build Evermain-> Strade and Olton -> Closest rail (probably the rail to evermain)

    Ask Givania if they want to be part of our rail network.
    ... Hell, talk to EVERYONE. We're already building to Merdis, but let's ask the following towns if they'll give us any free stuff or any discounts or any temporary cheap labor or stuff like that in exchange for us building Railways out to them FIRST:
    Saint's Hammer
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:13 No.10745016
    As >>10744935 pointed out, we have prior agreements that require that the rail lines westward are to remain a priority.
    I'd still like to have construction of the Perin-Cyreth Line ready to go as soon as an agreement is reached; Cyreth could benefit greatly from finally having a fast and easy way to transport their natural resources to buyers in the south (with a nice discount for us) and Perin would benefit from being able to sell goods northwards (with an appropriate duty tax levied by the Cyreth Port Authority, of which we would get a small cut).
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:13 No.10745019
    We gave our locomotive tech away? Someone else will be copying and implementing it before long in a more populated area- if they haven't already. We pissed away our chance at a transport monopoly there, and for what? Better generators that we don't really need right now? Ugh...

    We need to expand our rail lines as quickly as possible, and maintain as firm of control of them as possible. We're fairly wealthy, so we should be able to hire additional laborers from the various towns that we're attempting to build to in order to accelerate production; do so. Our income can come from taking a small percentage of the value of transported goods, and a small fee for messages or personal transport, but don't worry about running a deficit at the moment- we need to establish a firm cash-over-time flow as fast as we can.

    Emphasize growth southward. We need to get a line to the major cities and then between them as quickly as possible, and secure agreements for the transport of goods with the various merchants, nobles, and what have you that live there before anyone else manages to. Once we've reached the first city there should be enough labor for hire that we can get a large number of additional workers and push for the growth of numerous rail lines- and the major city-major city lines should be major cash generators. Our economic teams should be able to handle the details, and also their own expansion. Likewise our intelligence apparatus should be able to expand vigorously as we gain easy transport into additional towns.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:14 No.10745037
    So, how are "beggar" towns doing? Are they on their feet again? Or are we still providing them with aid (not that I mind)?
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)22:16 No.10745067
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    Not that you know of. However, Perin is landlocked, with no navy beyond a river patrol. Any information would have to come through other nations.

    Got it.

    Very well.

    I should have this for you by tomorrow.

    I see. This would not be difficult to implement; you'll see about it.

    This should be it.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:16 No.10745069
    Can we have a better term than 'beggar town', as truthful as such a term may be? How about 'junior members of the Terra Economic Development League'?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:16 No.10745074
    After we've fulfilled our trade agreements, I think the Merdis-Dreamwood line should be free.
    Also, we should have Advertisements about dreamwood painted on all our trains.
    Gotta fund them tourisms!
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:19 No.10745107
    What are the relative scales on these maps?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:19 No.10745110
    You know, we're at Cyreth's most narrow portion...I wonder if we could start land development within the Unclaimed Territories? Some of our more secret weapons research projects, perhaps?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:22 No.10745143
    Sorry to double-post, but I just thought of something that we should ask Hretmar when we get a chance: are there any other ancient Frost Giant ruins, other than the Great City that the Ice Demon claimed? It might be nice to get some AncienTech to help us, especially if it's weapons we can use against the Ice Demon when it comes for us.
    Let's call up Hretmar. It'll be nice to just shoot the breeze with him, make sure he's being revered enough at our libraries.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)22:22 No.10745152
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    Sorry about that. Here it is.

    You'll send out the word tomorrow.

    Your locomotive technology is patented. You will get a cut of the profits of any civilian use, though that obviously does not approach a monopoly.

    The newest harvests have put them back in the green, for the time being. The expanding rail network also makes it possible to run them food from Grennet and the other western towns, which is a big help. Thanks to you, their citizens are no longer in danger of starvation.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:25 No.10745200
    Roughly what's the scale on this map, as compared to the perin map, as compared to the continent map?
    Might be a good idea to get a rough idea of what sort of scales we're working with here.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:26 No.10745209

    OK, I thought it was inappropriate too but couldn't come up with anything else.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:27 No.10745232
    >Gotta fund them tourisms!

    If we are going to do that, we should have some more tourist attractions. Right now we have a truly magnificent looking town and a theater
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:27 No.10745237
    We can keep prices low, but making the use of any train line free (other than for our personnel) sets a bad precedent. Even the military should be paying us a fee to operate and maintain their trains as external contractors, once their lines are done.

    We should basically be setting ourselves up as ruler of Dreamwood, and as a separate but loosely related matter as the CEO of this world's very first international rail corporation. Shoulder/buy out all others who try to break into the industry, charge standard fees, and spread our influence/presence as rapidly as we can to every city that we can reach with no respect whatsoever for political boundaries except as they influence our profit and expansion.

    In addition to providing us with wealth and credibility, which is an end in itself since we're still a highly unusual personage in this world, having control of a major transport corporation will provide us with the influence that we'll need to act on a large scale in the future, much more so than as a border sub-ruler.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)22:28 No.10745255
    rolled 3, 3, 4 = 10

    Dreamwood's sector has its top border at the tower line and its bottom one touching the Saint's Cry River. The scale of the world map is unknown, since you reconstructed it from various books and the view you got as a spirit. Perin's probably location is marked with the green circle.

    You are likely to have to deal with Envids, Frost Giants, and other challenges if you do that. I doubt Cyreth would object to you moving through their uninhabited territory, though.

    There is no response to your communication.

    You know of only one great city, but there were surely others. Nothing you have found mentions a location, but Frost Giants built large. If you could acquire an aircraft, ruins on that scale might be easy to spot.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:34 No.10745350
    >There is no response to your communication.

    Huh, this could be troublesome.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:35 No.10745371
    We should probably make a 4-wide rail down to the capitol as a long-term goal.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)22:35 No.10745379
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    This is roughly the scale of the overmap. I am not an experience mapmaker, so the relative distances have pretty much just been fudged. There are probably glaring inconsistencies if you look back through the archives, but I can't do much about that.

    How about this: D for disadvantaged, T for town. DT.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:36 No.10745390

    Possibly. But keep in mind, the bro network has been working on something BIG lately that's got their attention.

    I suggest we leave a note for Hretmar in our library. He'll read it eventually.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:39 No.10745434

    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:40 No.10745461
    Say, I remembered from an earlier thread that we had dug up some ancient armor/trinkets from the swamp to dreamwood's east.

    I know some of the swords were recast, but how much of it did we keep in storage? The items found could be the first startup for a museum.

    Also, speaking of the good old days, we should send an expedition to what's left of the ruins from our first encounter with asshole firegod. I bet there's gotta be some good shit to excavate from there.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:41 No.10745477

    OH! for that matter, we could put that shield we had examined in the museum as well, along with a plaque containing the story of the giant hunter who used it.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:42 No.10745484
    Dude. We're only 1/400th of Perin.
    There's 400 other local maps out there.
    our population in this sector is ... hm. It'd be close to 50,000, wouldn't it?
    That means there's TWENTY MILLION PEOPLE out there in perin, if they're as densely populated as we are.
    And I'll bet we're one of the SPARSELY populated areas!
    There could be FORTY MILLION or SIXTY MILLION people out there!
    And we'd be earning royalties for railways between ALL of them?
    In our little town of 400?

    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:42 No.10745488
    Ah right, the good old days. IIRC there were more than one ruins, no?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:43 No.10745498
    Keep building rails as necessitated by our trade agreements.
    When those are fulfilled, build a 2-line down to Merdis, and make LONG-term plans to send a 4-line to the capitol.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:43 No.10745503
    Actually, all of our shields hold some historical value, methinks.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:43 No.10745504

    The gods said they had another matter to attend to earlier anyway, and that it would occupy most of their energy. So it may not be trouble yet.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)22:45 No.10745531
    rolled 6, 5, 4 = 15

    Left. Anything specific to say or just a greeting?

    That will be all for today. I will, at least, be here tomorrow, with map updates.

    Some of the items, those impossible to melt down, were kept, and now that you have other sources, every piece of history dug out of the swamp is being retained. They are easily enough to fill a museum by themselves.

    The ruins where you encountered the fire elemental were pretty much destroyed, either during that event or later on. It would be inadvisable to dig there without considerable magical support, and you yourself might wish to be present, considering the power you now hold.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:45 No.10745543
    This is why we were an idiot to trade away our locomotive specs, and why we MUST expand our network as quickly as possible. How long so you think it'll take someone else to realize the potential profits involved here and see it done? Particularly one of the other nobles, with money to spare and power to do as they will?

    Sure, we've probably got a month or six, but... we're not going to cover more than a fraction of the nation before our competition emerges. When it does, we'll want to have much construction as possible completed. We need to throw a massive amount of money and effort at this project if at all possible.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:45 No.10745546
    I hope so... What the hell are they doing anyway? How long has it been since they are on their "secret" project?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:47 No.10745566
    Still, it leaves me uncomfortable.

    So, as medium-range plans: Let's get lasers up to an acceptable degree, then switch our personal research completely to flight. Our specific aim here would be to build a plane large enough that we can fly in it for a considerable length of time (does not need to be for mass-production). With it, we will scout the northern territories and the Unclaimed Territories looking for Frost Giant ruins. If we're lucky, we might come upon an adjunct library or knowledge vault, something to help us when we fight the Ice Demon and in the meantime gives us a nice technological and scientific boost.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:48 No.10745586

    A plane like that is a huge effort. I think we're better off working on the rails and improved locomotives.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)22:48 No.10745589
    rolled 3, 1, 6 = 10

    The shield in question had its bands removed and melted. The metal components of your shield skirt were all reused, as were the metal shields. Do you want them reconstructed, or kept as they are?

    The plantation sectors are much more sparsely populated, on average, but the big cities can support several million on their own, and the capital could contain as many as five million.

    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:49 No.10745592
    Dude they are patented, the Lord and Conclave will make sure no shenanigans will be about.

    Ah, ok, thank you DM. See you later. I'll be hitting the bed then
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:49 No.10745594
    Well, let's have us a museum, then!

    I still say we should go out to whatever's left of the ruins out there to dig up goodies. It should definitely be part of our itinerary. We'll personally go to oversee it, and bring some of our trained riflemen just in case.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:49 No.10745614
    Cancer thread full of newfags.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:51 No.10745636
    Keep the special one as is, but build an approximation of how it used to look for display next to it.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)22:52 No.10745661
    rolled 6, 4, 1 = 11

    Several months. Even during the war, when they were teleporting masses of troops constantly, they were never out of contact for long.

    Patented items can still be built by others, as long as you are paid your due. The rail business holds enough profit for a shrewd businessman to accept the loss and use your designs.

    A museum will be built. When possible, you will take a party to the ruins. Do you wish to take the laser?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:53 No.10745688
    I think this session we advanced 3 months. 3 months!
    No wonder people are concerned with the light-speed advancement of our place.

    "Hundreds of small steps for a Giant. Thousands of giant leaps for humankind."
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:54 No.10745702
    Patented means precious little- either we get only a tiny fraction of the potential profits involved, or they adapt our patented design into something sufficiently different that they can weasel around it and we get nothing. Either way, we need to expand our rail business as quickly as possible unless we wish to see ourselves left out of the massive potential gains here.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:55 No.10745713
    For our economic expansion, perhaps, but all of that is already well in hand by our regular R&D and Engineering departments.
    I'm talking about a personal project, like the laser, where we're the primary scientist. Also, I think it's in our best interests to attempt to secure some Frost Giant ruins sooner rather than later. They were supposed to be at a power level equivalent to moder-day Earth (with magic making up for what they lacked in tech), so I think it would be important to try to recover some of their magical technology and science. Since we inhabit a Frost Giant body, with all of its advantages and only a few of the disadvantages, I think we are in a good position to unlock the Ancient Frost Giants' secrets.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:55 No.10745714
    >Do you wish to take the laser?

    Why don't we first finish our custom firearms. Then have a month of practice and then go adventuring? It's not like there's a deadline or something.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:56 No.10745746
    I agree with >>10745714
    Let's make sure we bring overwhelming firepower. It's better to have too much, than too little.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)22:59 No.10745782
    rolled 2, 1, 4 = 7

    Got it. A replica will be made, and the genuine article will be sealed in a display case.

    It will be done.

    You alone constitute a great amount of firepower. Firearms, even large ones, are more of a backup weapon to someone who can shatter battleship plating.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)22:59 No.10745785
    Whelp, by the time they derp around to something new, we'll have magnetic bullet trains. Stop worrying that much. The fact that we gave them up so easily also put us in better standing with then Government, Conclave and the general populace.
    We still have tons of tricks up our sleeves. Think of virtually every single earth product. We can "invent" them and distribute them. Just wait till we have our own Frosty-Cola(tm) and fast foodchain "McIceburgers"
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:03 No.10745837
    We are truly a death machine.

    But you know the ancient wise proverb from enlightened monks of Lamrou Mountains:

    "There can never be enough DAKKA"
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:03 No.10745842
    While whipping out a new technological trick every week is nice, it's not going to provide us with a solid economic and influence base on an international level. What we need for that is large-scale implementation and reliability, as well as a reputation and network of agreements and allies which can only be built over time.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:04 No.10745862
    And lets not forget cement and asphalt and cars, same deal as the rails.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:08 No.10745918
    As for the note to Hretmar:
    "Hello Hretmar, it's been a while. I'm sorry I didn't contact you sooner. I hope that the rest of the Perinese Pantheon is treating you well, and that everyone is showing you appropriate respect in your libraries.
    Dreamwood is progressing nicely, and expanding quite fast. It is getting to the point where I might finally be forced to delegate even more of my administrative duties; not that it's a completely bad turn, because now I can devote more time to my own projects.
    Which brings me to something I've been meaning to ask you. Do you happen to know of any other major repositories of Frost Giant knowledge besides the Great Wall? I'd like to study some more about the Frost Giants if I can, and what they were once capable of. If you could give me a reply, that would be great.

    Thank you for everything again.

    Your faithful servant,
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:11 No.10745968
    Yes, which the Perin-Cyreth Rail Line should help quite nicely in doing. This will be our first international work, and a chance to show the surrounding nations what our technology is capable of.
    Once the line is complete, and the money starts flowing, other nations will begin pounding down our door to have a rail system built in their countries and having them connected to ours.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:17 No.10746061
    you know, come to think of it, we could, in theory, build us a frost giant sized backpack-fed HEAVY FUCKING BOLTER. It wouldn't have the smart-rocketry, but fuck it would be intimidating!
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:20 No.10746108
    "I am Heavy Veapons Giant, *this*, is my veapon!"
    *hefts up the mini-autocannon and crack a grin*
    Soldier: Oh yeah, that's definitely you.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:20 No.10746113
    While I'm not against that project, it's not fast enough. We need to be building our rail lines right now, where the money is and people are, before someone else gets the jump on us. The resources that Cyreth has and all the associated potential profit will keep until someone successfully prepares large-scale transit to them; the possibility of being the first one to establish passenger and good lines internal to Perin is a fleeting time window that we cannot afford to ignore. If we don't focus on the national rather than international market right now, then it won't be our door that people come to with the next contract- it'll be that of whatever wealthy backer successfully took our idea and implemented a rail company in the more populated areas of Perin.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:25 No.10746211
    Wait; we haven't even finalized a construction contract with Cyreth and Perin yet. I'm saying that we need to start planning it now.
    I agree with you on constructing the internal Perinese rail network as quickly as possible, though. It may be prudent to require all towns that sign a construction contract with us to provide some percentage of manpower to assist in the construction, in addition to the normal cost of building and laying down the rails. As we go farther south, we may need to start creating branches of our Dreamwood Rail Corporation to hire up workers to keep the breakneck pace of construction going. We'll also need to double-check all of our rail lines before final approval, though. Working at that fast of a pace, people might be tempted to cut corners to achieve deadlines, or simply make mistakes.
    The very last thing we need is to be responsible for Perin's first ever railway accident and casualties.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:32 No.10746355
    We need to figure out what's going on with the pantheon. Why would any kind of "secret project" make even Hretmar remain completely out of contact for so long?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:34 No.10746385
    Was the request for a Cyrethian ambassador to negotiate the rail construction contract sent via the Conclave? Since this will be an international rail line, I imagine that the Perinese government will want a representative at the negotiations, but we should check with them first, just to be sure.
    Estimated arrival time is 2 months, correct?
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)23:37 No.10746439
    rolled 6, 6, 2 = 14

    It was. As long as the rep remains in contact with the Conclave, no actual government personnel need be present, but current plans allow for the presence of the commander of the border defenses and someone from a local office.

    The emissary will arrive within two months if everything goes as expected. Obviously, he will have an escort with him.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:38 No.10746464
    I am concerned with this as well. Should we spend a favor with the Conclave to find out what's going on? I mean, it's one thing for the Perin Pantheon to be working on a secret project for them, but to even include Hretmar and not let him talk to us? That's very peculiar, almost as if...
    OH. SHIT.
    Could they be working on a Manhattan Project? Is there any way that what we told Hretmar could have gotten out?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:40 No.10746510
    How would the Conclave disallow Hretmar from talking to us? He's a god. I'm more worried about other gods or that frost spirit, since I believe Hretmar did say it was more powerful than he.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:40 No.10746511
    Didn't Hretmar specifically instruct us not to look into what he's up to? Or do I recall incorrectly?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:41 No.10746532
    I think we can begin ironing out the outlines of a contract while he makes his way here. The final thing, of course, should be signed and sealed in physical form. It's the formality of the thing that's needed. But there's no reason why we can't begin planning things like where the line will go or how many trains will run on it, or if we'll build a neutral Terminus Station at the border between the two nations. General stuff so that we can dig right into the nitty-gritty of fees and taxes as soon as he arrives in person.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:42 No.10746557
    Was that even Hretmar we were talking to? It sound suspiciously like something somebody who was impersonating him would say to keep us from getting suspicious at the lack of communication.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:44 No.10746595
    The sup/tg/ archives are down right now, so I can't check.
    I don't think Hretmar disallowed us from looking into what's he's working on, but I could be wrong.
    Yes, the Ice Demon that got released was almost as strong as Hretmar, and now that he's gotten the Frost Giants' Great Wall, he's definitely more powerful; possibly as strong as an entire pantheon by himself.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:44 No.10746603
    Oh, sweet delicious Paranoia
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:46 No.10746632
    When we may single-handedly be responsible for letting the Morningstar, Lucifer's Fire, the great cleansing fire of the Holy Atomic Flame, loose upon an unsuspecting world, I think a little paranoia is justified.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 06/25/10(Fri)23:46 No.10746633
    rolled 3, 5, 2 = 10

    If he chose to share it, or someone else was listening in.

    He told you to restrain your curiosity.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:48 No.10746681
    But he didn't say anything about not contacting him, nor warn us that he'd be incommunicado for a while, did he? In that case I think we should try contacting him from our library that's dedicated to him, and if that fails, try talking to some priests to see if they can figure out what's going on.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:51 No.10746711
    We told Hretmar about the horrors that this weapon would bring, of how entire generations lived in fear that in the next minute, those dreaded civil defense sirens would call out their warning, to be followed by a flash of blinding light and the complete destruction of human civilization. He swore to us, that he would keep it secret. He swore that he would never tell anyone else...unless...he felt it was necessary...
    Or, someone could have been eavesdropping. We did at the dead of night, but that doesn't we weren't followed...especially if the Conclave had an agent or two tasked with keeping an eye on us...
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:53 No.10746759
    Great, now I'm working myself into a paranoid frenzy. He told us we should restrain our curiosity, but this is now becoming fear and anxiety. I don't want to bother him, but this might be important enough to have a one-to-one talk with him again.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)23:58 No.10746827
    We didn't explain how it was made even in the slightest, so even if someone did listen in they cannot do much with the info.
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)00:01 No.10746873
    No, we explained the premise behind the weapon, the materials required, and how they need to be shaped.
    We explained the basic idea of a nuclear chain reaction, that it can be harnessed in one catastrophic uncontrolled super-critical chain reaction, how a super-critical mass can be formed, and how to initiate the device.
    Hretmar might not know how to design an explosive lens, but he knows enough for a simple gun-type nuclear device.
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)00:02 No.10746900
    I just think they are perfecting the spider war factory. Maybe building bodies for themselfs so that they can interact with the world more directly and without constraints.
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)00:08 No.10746989
    Did we really say all that? I thought just that the concept...
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)00:10 No.10747017
    You mean a war-forge like Erivrus?
    Ah, you think that the gods of the Pantheon might be creating physical Avatars for themselves.
    I guess it's possible, but I had the impression that this was a Perin military project. I could be wrong about that.
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)00:12 No.10747056
    Yes, because at the time we weren't sure if we were going to survive the super-weapons that the Forusians were throwing at us, and we wanted to be sure that Hretmar had something to deal with the Ice Demon if were weren't here to take care of it.
    I still stand by this decision, as I feel it was the right thing to do at the time, even if it might now be placing us in a bad spot.
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)00:17 No.10747141
    I doubt Hretmar would betray us. If a third party listened in (which I doubt) then the Bro Network wouldn't be working on that but the 3rd party.
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)00:27 No.10747318
    You're probably right. I'm probably just being paranoid.
    But, having no contact with Hretmar or any other members of the Perin Pantheon is still a little disturbing.
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)00:29 No.10747347
    I'm not worried about Hretmar betraying us. I'm worried about the fact that we haven't had any contact with him in months.
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)00:39 No.10747554
    Yeah, I'm with you. It's a little worrying, and a little disconcerting when Hretmar always had time for us before.
    "You're like a good uncle to me, Hretmar. I can't help but worry."
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)00:41 No.10747579
    He's obviously seeing another Frost Giantess.
    >> Harmless 06/26/10(Sat)00:44 No.10747624
    Thread is now archived.
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)00:51 No.10747748
    So, I think we have most things ready for tomorrow.
    We're going to begin negotiations with the Cyreth envoy, with Perin attending.
    We're going to continue with our fast railroadification of Perin and make sure our stranglehold is nice and strong, and make sure that the tracks are up to spec to avoid any train crashes.
    We're going to build some guns for us and train with them a bit, then visit the eastern ruins in the swamp.

    I think the only thing we're undecided on, is if we'll pursue contacting Hretmar, or leave the matter along as he told us to.
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)00:51 No.10747752
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)00:53 No.10747788
    Dude, he's a Viking Frost Giant God. I'd be disappointed in him if he didn't have a valkyrie or two hanging off his arms.
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)01:15 No.10748233
    Speaking of which, why don't we have some frost giantesses hanging on our arms?
    >> Anonymous 06/26/10(Sat)01:35 No.10748605
    Unfortunately, that would be due to the current state of the Frost Giant population and their apparent biological/magical curse.
    I'll need someone who remembers more clearly to correct me, but as I recall, just about the entirety of the Frost Giant population has devolved into savage barbarism. This doesn't appear to be so much an environmental factor, as a biological one (with possible magical causes), due to evidence concerning Hill Giants (offspring of Frost/Mountain Giants). Hill Giants succumb to schizophrenia after about 50 years or so on average (theorized to be the result of conflicting natures, the savageness of the Frost Giant and the contemplative calm of the Mountain Giant), and though many have tried, not even magic was able to prevent them from succumbing eventually.
    I believe that whatever magic pulled us from our Human body on Earth, gave us some kind of protection against the effects of residing withing a Frost Giant body, and whatever genetic or magical compulsions it might normally have on our mind.

    But, getting back to why we don't have a Frost Giant girlfriend: we're busy with being the Harbinger of SCIENCE!, and there's the whole barbarian savage thing to get over, and even finding a tribe that would be willing to talk before caving our skull in with a 110MPH 200-lbs boulder shotput from a mile away. And that's all before the whole lesbian/not-really-because-we're-a-man-in-a-woman's-body thing.

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