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    301 KB Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:16 No.10111656  
    Last night /tg/, someone made me fall in love with Paladins and I don't think I will be swayed back any time soon. Here is the story;

    We'd been running our D&D group for quite some time (3.5), and we were around the 11-13 level range. The game had reached the point where the characters where now 'players' in a kingdoms politics and we national heroes. One of the characters, as Paladin, was the youngest son of the now deposed King. In his youth, he had disappeared for 10 years without a trace and broke his fathers heart, the king went into decline and dragged his kingdom with him. Eventually, knowing of the weakness a coup was launched by a tyrant and he now rules the kingdom with an iron fist.

    6 years after the coup, the youngest son returns, now a Paladin. What happened to him for all that time has yet to be revealed, but the player and DM had it all worked out.

    So anyway, even though the game had revolved pretty much around us trying to get out Paladin buddy to reclaim his rightful throne, and most of the plot was centred around such, the player in question decided he was bored with the character and wanted to roll something new.

    The DM was a little pissed at this, but he could hardly force the guy to play the character, so he left him roll up a new guy and drafted in his buddy, Chris, who was staying with him for a few weeks to play the Paladin. Sir Peter Fairgrave.

    I hadn't gamed with Chris before, but he seemed like a pretty cool guy, no complaints, and he really wanted to know all the details of the plot and everything about our characters. Citing that he actually wanted to do a proper job of playing the character and to "not let us down"

    I didn't know what to expect, but hey, he seemed really into it. So we played.
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    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:28 No.10111793
    >Carrying on

    Anyway, in terms of the current plot. We had been forced to waylay our plans to over throw the tyrant, as a more serious threat had emerged, that of some form of sinister cult.

    We had been dealing with the cult for years, but we had never taken them overly seriously. They were just some messed up guys who occasionally got in over their heads, you know. Often they'd make a bid for power, fuck it up, and we'd have to clean up the deadly deadly mess.

    The cult had clearly been playing their warcraft 3, as they had gotten it into their heads to infect the kingdoms food stores (on a mass scale) with some form of virus that would make the population subservient to some demon the cult venerated.

    ==In game==

    It was our 11th hour, we'd hounded the streets for days trying to round up cult agents and get information out of them.

    We found out the plague was already in most of the food and water, as they had been at it for months, but a ritual needed to be completed for it to become active.

    The cultist were hard to break, and our group, generally not the nicest folks, wanted to torture it out of them. Naturally, Sir Peter was opposed.

    "We can't preserve freedom while denying it to others. Its not right, we can't do it, and I won't allow it"

    Chris wasn't being a dick, he was just playing the character, and as much as our characters might not of liked it, we, as players, were having lots of fun. The added drama really worked.

    We managed to capture a high priest of the cult, someone responsible for conducting the ritual in this part of the land. It turns out the ritual needed to be conducted at the same time in several parts of the kingdom at once, in order to deliver the maximum effect.
    >> Anomynous 05/28/10(Fri)09:29 No.10111799
    rolled =

    /r/ing part two, gentle /tg/
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:33 No.10111850
    >Further still
    We need to know the other locations, or else all our efforts would have just saved one northern barony and not the whole land. He gave us no choice but to beat it out of him.

    Sir Peter wanted no part of this. "If you're going to treat a man like some animal for the slaughter, then don't expect me to sit by and watch". He then stormed out, and let us carry on in our work.

    We'd been at it hours, and we couldn't get the guy to crack. He just wouldn't tell us anything. He was covered in cuts, had lost a toe at our hands, was dripping in his own blood, but still won't give us want we needed. We were going to give up and try another method, when all of a sudden, our doorway darkens and in walks Sir Peter. Wearing nothing but his tunic and pants, unarmed, bar for a half drank jug of some form of strong booze in hand.

    In steps into the room and announces, "If you're going to do this, do it right..."

    He walks over to the bound cultist, tosses aside his bottle, lifts and chair and sits in front of the beaten man.
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    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:38 No.10111890
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:39 No.10111904
    The paladin said to the man Ýo homes, take me to bel-air'
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:40 No.10111912
    The paladin got in one small fight and his mum got scared, she said "you're moving to your auntie and uncle in bel-air"
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:42 No.10111942
    Can love bloom in paladin interrogation?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:45 No.10111968
    The paladin got up close to the Cultist and shispered 'Hwee shall khaptyure eet for pehlor'
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    Goddamnit I'm expecting paladin awesome Op, don't let me down.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:50 No.10112039
    >"We can't preserve freedom while denying it to others. Its not right, we can't do it, and I won't allow it"
    >paladin != captain america
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:50 No.10112040
    Come onnnnnnnnnn
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:52 No.10112064
    >and again.

    Sir Peter: "I don't want to hurt you, I just need to know the locations of your brethren, then this can be all over for you, I will make sure you are safe and cared for."

    Cultist: "Ha! I know who you are, Sir. Peter Fairgrave, kingdom breaker, runaway child, father slayer. You can't threaten me, I know what you are, your order, your God won't allow you to lay your hands on me, otherwise you'll fall, and you won't be able to help a soul"

    SP: *sighs* "You seem to be under misconception about what I am, what I do. I am a Paladin, that is true, but as a Paladin you don't fear falling... I look forward to it"

    The cultist shot a nervous look at the rest of the party, we were all looking at each other, not sure what was about to happen. The cultist opened his mouth to speak, but Sir Peter cut him off.

    SP: "As a Paladin, I walk on a razors edge. Not between good and evil, I could never be something like you, but between "law" and "Justice". The Law I fall doesn't permit me to harm you, but I could be justified in anything I did to you in order to save innocent lives, ANYTHING!
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:53 No.10112087
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    why don't people type this shit up beforehand!!!

    DAMN IT!
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:54 No.10112098
    So he made him Jack Bauer?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:56 No.10112112
    >imply Captain America isn't a paladin in super hero form.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)09:59 No.10112148
    possibly a paladin of freedom, never read much about them
    the cpt. is NG
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:02 No.10112190
    >almost done!

    - "You don't know what it is like to be me, you don't know the pain of having to store all your anger, all your fury, your sense of justice, and hold it inside you, all day every day for the rest of your life. Doing the right thing doesn't mean I get to stop all evil, I just get to trim it when it becomes over grown. The path I walk is not about vengeance, or what's right, its about moderation in the face of power, restraint and compassion for scum like you.

    - "This is why Paladin don't fear falling. We don't spend all day looking for ways to prevent ourselves from doing evil and giving in to the darkness. We actively seek it out. Every time we face evil, we have to ask ourselves, "Is this the threat i'm going to give it all for, is this what I am going to give up my ability to help others in the future, in order to bring down now, is this the evil that I am willing to forsake my God and my Power to stop!".

    At this point, he stands up suddenly and swings his arm against the chair he was sitting on. Sending it flying and shattered against a wall, he then kicks over the chair the cultist was sitting on, he leaps and straddles his chest, flinging him about for a few seconds in pure rage, before calming once more.

    He looks the cultist straight in the face, both their noses just inches from each other.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:03 No.10112197

    - "What you should be asking yourself now, what you really need to be thinking about, is; "Is what I'm doing something thats goes make this guy want to fall", because you should know, that once I fall, all those rules which protect you from me are gone. No longer will I be able to be stopped by you, or by my order, or by my God. If I give everything, and I mean give everything, I will never stop. If you escape me today, I will hunt you down and grab you into the pits of hell myself. Even if that means that I have to invoke the wrath of every demon in creation, just so they throw open a pit and drag me down where I stand, because when they do dragged me down, I will make sure that my fists are wrapped firmly around your ankles and you go down with me. I want you to listen to me now, and I mean really listen, because hell truly hath no fury like a Paladin scored.

    - "So I ask you, one last time, tell me where the other rituals are being held, or I swear to all on high that I will fall, and fall hard, just do I can show you what it is that Paladin truly keeps his code to hold back..."

    At this point the player, Chris, just stops talking and looks at us. We are all kind of stunned by his speech, naturally.

    He just picks up a D20, looks at the DM and say "I wish to roll intimidate"
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:04 No.10112207
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:05 No.10112216
    kinda twilightish
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:05 No.10112224
    Man, that is actually a really fresh views on Paladins. The sort of "powder-keg of justice" approach.

    I really like it.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:06 No.10112229
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:06 No.10112234
    Did he get a circumstance bonus for the speech? I'd say that is at least a +4.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:07 No.10112242
    Of course he got a circumstance bonus! As a DM if a player got that into a speech, I personally would be intimidated :P
    >> QuestionC 05/28/10(Fri)10:08 No.10112246
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    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:08 No.10112258

    You're kidding, bonus rolls? He passes, no roll or whatever.
    XP bonus as icing on the cake.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:09 No.10112259
    addition to the chunky salsa rule
    "If at any time the DM is intimidated by a speech made IC, the intimidation is a success"
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:09 No.10112267
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:09 No.10112268
    > Did he get a circumstance bonus for the speech? I'd say that is at least a +40

    >> QuestionC 05/28/10(Fri)10:10 No.10112272
    I dunno, it seems like the paladin should have a chance to fail still.

    You've got to back up your words, you know.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:11 No.10112292
    Congratulations, you're a huge faggot rules lawyer.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:12 No.10112298
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    >Captain America
    >NEUTRAL good
    >Doesn't take the higher law of American idealism and originating literature as his guiding code, making him strictly lawful good, amirite?

    Fuck you, buddy.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:14 No.10112317
    No, I agree. The guy doesn't fear pain or death, and his soul is already sold.
    Why would that awesome speech work ?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:15 No.10112326
    >I want you to listen to me now, and I mean really listen, because hell truly hath no fury like a Paladin scored.
    >kinda twilightish

    I agree
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:15 No.10112328
    Captain America is a Hellknight.

    You know it to be true.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:15 No.10112329
    >American Idealism is LG
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:15 No.10112330
    Because the player put effort into that speech, if for nothing else, award merit where merit is due.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:16 No.10112338
    The fact that the Paladin promised him worse than any demon could deliver, that he would piss off the universe so much that the ground shallows him hole, and the sole purpose being to knock that smile off his face.

    I mean, fuck, even someone who thinks like that is nuts. Actions are icing.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:16 No.10112340
    I am prejudiced against lawful good characters, and paladins in particular. But that was good.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:16 No.10112342
    Sure is over-dramatic contrived shit in here.
    >> QuestionC 05/28/10(Fri)10:17 No.10112363
    This isn't about rules. The possibility of falling gives tension.

    The paladin just finished a speech about "Consequences be damned!". It really loses something if the DM removes any possibility of him having to own up to it.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:17 No.10112367
    This is exactly the kind of RP I have seen and come to expect of a WoW RP-server.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:18 No.10112372
    What do you RP for, then?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:18 No.10112379
    A cultist for a demon believing that a paladin can do worse ? Unlikely.
    Well, that's what circumstance bonuses are for.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:19 No.10112383
    >>10112317 Doesn't fear death

    Anyone who sells their soul should fear death (and thus - eternal damnation) more than anything.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:21 No.10112419
    I don't suppose the guy planned to live long at the hands of his torturers, and still he didn't talk.
    >> Assassin Lazerus !wCN7oH.ncA 05/28/10(Fri)10:22 No.10112423
    "I would wish to roll intimidate"

    Natural one.

    The priest looks you in the eye. You can feel a deep bond connecting your very souls at this moment.

    "I know you know. I know what your are. And hence, I'm never...

    ...gonna give you up... *starts singing*
    ...gonna let you down... *starts moving with the rythm*
    ...turn my back and desert you... *starts laughing maniacally*
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    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:25 No.10112452
    Perhaps his demon friend promised him something good.

    In that case the Paladin probably knows of a couple other demons willing to fuck up demon #1's plans. This would have to be one shyster cultist to have actually made a bullet proof pact with a demon. I always see cultists as meddling with powers beyond their depth, "true believers," etc.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:31 No.10112542
    Something people seem to be missing, the guy just didn't make an excellent speech. He redefined Paladin hood.

    "Invested with power until such a time that they are required to deliver true justice, above all else"

    None of that other "Lol-lawful good" bullshit that often happens. The intense, on the edge, "Will this day be my last as an implement of God" approach is one I'm going to be stealing.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:32 No.10112558
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:33 No.10112572
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:36 No.10112613
    So what happened next?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:36 No.10112614
    I know as a DM, I'm refluffing Paladins in my future campaigns.

    This seems PERFECT for a Paladin of the Silver Flame.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:37 No.10112624
    The IDEALS held by the American continents (especially North America) are self-actualization, social equality, uncompromising liberty, and above all the endearment of the Golden Rule on a macro scale. This has nothing to do with your perceived reality. Troll harder.

    Cap is a modern paladin, no question.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:38 No.10112648
    >>10112624 uncompromising liberty

    what decade are you living in?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:39 No.10112661
    Not morally good.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:39 No.10112664
    >IDEALS held by the American continents (especially North America) are self-actualization, social equality, uncompromising liberty, and above all the endearment of the Golden Rule

    Are you fucking with me?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:40 No.10112683
    >social equality
    what century are you living in ?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:40 No.10112684
    I'm wondering, and I ask this purely out of curiosity and not to troll, but what is Cap's take on racism and different races in general? He's a product of WW2's culture and I'm wondering how that's rubbed off on him.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:40 No.10112687
    Very much agreed. Although, an entire order who operate like that may not have a long shelf life.

    It might be how a few act, and it might be what they all say, but if all of them truly just kept looking for a "big enough evil" they would probably find themselves all dead

    but then again, all Martyrs. The public would fucking love guys like that.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:42 No.10112709
    oh, I see. I thought you were trolling and not making an actual point about how someone might face the trails of being a Paladin.

    But, I don't know much in the way of WoW lore.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:44 No.10112732
    He's cool with them.

    Yeah, Cap's the living ideal of America.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:44 No.10112734
    Again, since you missed it:
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:44 No.10112741
    Cap's most common ally is a black dude that used to be a social worker. They get along famously.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:45 No.10112746
    See this is something I can see only getting better if it was writefagged. And if no one else is here, I'd be willing to take a shot at the mantle of writefag for this.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:46 No.10112758
    I don't think anyone can stop you :P
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:47 No.10112768
    Captain America has made some great speeches over the years.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:48 No.10112786
    Yep. Ideals of social equality are a minority thing in North America.
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    Also, I thought this would be appropriate to the thread.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:50 No.10112822
    It's like you're not even trying. The ideal is plainly stated in government documents, even. If you ask an American if they support equality, they'll almost invariably say yes (even if a minority go "Yes, and..." or "Yes, but...").
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:52 No.10112848
    What's so great about Captain America?

    He's a jack of all trades with no real powers in a world where superpowered villains exist. How can he make a difference?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:54 No.10112882
    That's the awesome part. He's at peak human potential, but he's still just human. He's "HUMANITY, FUCK YEAH" but without Batman's emowizardry.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)10:56 No.10112907
    Ask them if they support social equality.
    Papers don't hold ideals.
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    >He's at peak human potential, but he's still just human. He's "HUMANITY, FUCK YEAH"

    You are a fucking moron and I hope you die.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:01 No.10112975
    He should've died a long time ago, but he still survives.

    If anything, he has supernatural survival instincts.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:03 No.10113011
    "My Profit-Sense is tingling. Better not kill the cap'n."
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:05 No.10113035
    Sure they do, they just can't enact them.

    Can we please get away from this bullshit semantical debate and Captain America and get back to this fuckawesome idea for a paladin philosophy?

    Polite sage for faggotry.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:06 No.10113047
    I'm sorry. You're right. Back to Paladins.

    What happened next in the story? Did we find out and I just missed it?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:06 No.10113050
    >New Paladin Philosophy

    I put forward that it be called the "Powder Keg of Justice"
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:07 No.10113061
    I second this motion.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:08 No.10113077
    I think the fact that the speech was all just the prep for an intimidate roll was the "punchline" of the piece, while at the same time disseminating a new play to play a Paladin.

    The guy in OP's story was great. From now on, all my Paladins will be CHRIStians (har-har)
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:08 No.10113079
    >The IDEALS held by the American continents (especially North America) are self-actualization, social equality, uncompromising liberty, and above all the endearment of the Golden Rule on a macro scale.
    Yup, sounds a lot like NG...
    protip: the big clue is 'uncompromising liberty'
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    That might actually be a good name for the play-style, if it didn't involve knowledge of the story.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:10 No.10113115
    needs a new class feature though
    a one time only ability to explode in a shower of holy wrath, rather than burn at a steady pace
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:12 No.10113136
    The act of "falling" is the explosion, an explosion of all the evil methods that the paladin has observed people use, which he then turns on them.

    Lets not forget, enough without his powers, he is a pretty strong warrior.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:12 No.10113141
    Yes, this is something I too would like. Chances are he succeeded unless your DM is a massive unyielding faggot, but did you manage to stop the cult?

    This seems reasonable, though I suggest we try and come up with alternate names first.
    >> helpful /co/mrade 05/28/10(Fri)11:13 No.10113145
    The Holy Hand Grenade
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:13 No.10113154
    sounds more like a good paladin - blackguard (as in paladin to blackguard fall done well) than a paladin
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:16 No.10113176
    Yes, but a blackguard who fights evil with evil!
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:16 No.10113179

    Moar is demanded.

    OP must deliver.

    It is the way of things.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:17 No.10113187
    A blackguard is a corrupted paladin. this paladin archetype seems to me more about doing good without regard for law, thus instead of slipping towards the evil on the scale, he slips towards chaotic on the scale.

    So, any other names for this?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:17 No.10113195

    Two words: Grey Guard
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:18 No.10113197
    I generally love that archetype
    slowly sliding down the slippery slope, until he's basically a "benevolent" tyrant
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:19 No.10113215
    Strikes me as a great villain. You need to stop him, not because of who he's fighting against, but because of the collateral damage.
    >> helpful /co/mrade 05/28/10(Fri)11:19 No.10113217
    >this paladin archetype seems to me more about doing good without regard for law, thus instead of slipping towards the evil on the scale, he slips towards chaotic on the scale.
    >So, any other names for this?

    ...a hero?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:20 No.10113222
    Derp. Except since this belief is codified into a strict set of rules, it's LAWFUL. Just like how a Monk can be lawful if he's not following the corrupt laws of a land he's in.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:22 No.10113241
    he's still lawful, he's no longer nice about it. Even less so than 'Lawful Good is not Lawful Nice'

    he's obviously slipping into evil or at least neutral, using more and more heinous methods to exact Justice
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:22 No.10113245
    I'll give it a shot then. Keep this alive while I'm writan.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:24 No.10113260
    sooo... following a NG ideal makes him LG?
    so L-C is 'predictable' - 'LULRANDUM?'
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:24 No.10113263
    He was just... well, like a lot of madmen. Somewhat accurate view of the problem, really insane view of the solution.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:25 No.10113275
    If you wish, I didn't expect people to care about the story, it was more Chris' awesome Paladin that I wanted to communicate, but if you all so wish. However, I fear the session didn't last much longer, and it will be another week before we do more.


    Chris rolled, a mere 8 on the die, but the DM didn't care. The cultist cracked under the pressure, he wasn't used to being treated like this by Paladins, especially this one - since his cult has dealings with him before. Something about him had clearly changed (the player, haha)

    He gave us the information about the 4 other locations, and said they all made a rough pentagram, with the Palace spire being the vocal point.

    The wizard worked out that if they needed to make such a shape, then the ritual was dependant on such geometry, but if could take out one section and it still worked, the focal point must be the palace spire.

    My character, the a former knight Captain of the now Tyrant king (I had a few levels of Paladin in there too, but had been shamed out of mentioning them us far), knew the Palace lay out well enough to draw a detail map, detail enough for a teleport.

    True to his word, Sir Peter helped the cultist up, use his lay-on-hands to fix him up, but told him that he had to lock him in a holding cell until this was all over. He said sorry, but it was necessary if we were to retain surprise.

    We made our plans, and teleported in to my Knights old barrack rooms. The men stood to attention, still evidentially loyal to me, and in the presence of the rightful king.

    We got the details of what had been happening inside, turns out they were actually trapped in the room by some sort of ward on the otherside.

    Clearly things were going down. However, we ended the session there.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:28 No.10113309
    You know, I always thought the "ideals" of North America were Life, Liberty, and Property/the pursuit of happiness.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:31 No.10113345
    bit of a let down, since the session ended without much really being done. I can see why you chose to end it where you did.

    Sounds like a good game however!
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:32 No.10113356
    Does anyone know what the party composition was? Would be useful for the writefaggin'.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:39 No.10113431
    I'm glad you understand!

    To add a bit of detail, my character started out an idiot. When we began the game, it was during the twilight of the old Kings reign. His sorrow over what he thought was a lost son drove him, and by extension the nation, in stagnation.

    Things weren't getting done, supplies were low, moral was low, the army began to either disband or crave out little baronies for themselves. Life was terrible.

    My character helped put the tyrant in his place. I was a young, stupid kid and this guy was hot-shit. He had the charm, the grace, the wit, and the plan.

    He send all the right things, promised us, the people, a better share of the wealth than the old king had offered. In the end it was popular revolt that put the tyrant in place, and I was by his side the whole time.

    Once in power, he quick set about finding me a trainer, and from my training I trained others.

    Eventually as his true nature became apparent, and his horrors began to overshadow the good he initially brought, it was clear that I needed to rebel.

    By rebellion ended in not but failure and death for the people who followed me, and I was shamed. I was not executed like my followers, the tyrant owed me too much for that.

    Instead, thinking me a broken man (at the time I was), he merely exiled me, thinking I would not return to stop him.

    Funny enough, he was wrong.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:45 No.10113489
    There was;
    - Sir Peter (under new and awesome management)
    - Me, Saul Childers Former (Knight)-Captain, now disgraced.
    - The party magus, the (wizard), "Ezrune"
    - Our (healer), Father Vulit, of the church of pelor
    - and Grift, the (rogue/swashbuckler), as piloted by Sir.Peters old player.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:48 No.10113537
    Why are you making it more complicated than it has to be?

    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:53 No.10113585
    As in Easy Rune?

    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)11:58 No.10113647
    Is Ezrune female?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:02 No.10113689
    as in ESruin

    A bitter old man, who remembers how things used to be.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:03 No.10113699
    Man, this thread is great!

    Bump because I like it.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:05 No.10113714
    I'm getting the serious sense that your game may have started out light hearted but some serious turns.

    It's giving me a "consequences of youth", "After-happy ever after", "things we lost in the fire" feel
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:13 No.10113812
    This fell off the front page, time to put it back there, in case the promised writefag looses it and needs info
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:20 No.10113915
    Wow, that's such a subtle change to Paladin lore that it could go into any setting really, it just "doesn't come up" that often as the handwavium.

    It also helps to resolve some outstanding problems Paladins might face, such as letting a evil player in the party go virtually unchecked while going nuts on some kobolds who are trying to summon an evil god.

    its all a matter of "I have one shot to do what it takes, I better chose wisely"
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:21 No.10113938
    Heres a question for you /tg/ about our new PKoJ, how would they take an atonement?

    It seems to me that any player who follows this path wouldn't ever want an atonement, as that would sully the grace and importance of his fall.

    What do you think?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:24 No.10113978
    In my head I was thinking that they would all form little camps and communes. Now "just humans", banding together to live, being the occasional local defenders.

    Or, on the flip side.

    Now, not having to worry about morality and making peace with the idea of eternal damnation to get justice. They would band together to form roving packs of righteousness, hunting down evil at it source, stamping it out like a well oiled machine. Military, but with a mission.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:26 No.10113995
    >> 1 Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:28 No.10114031
    ...But it was all for naught. They cut his flesh and tore it, seared it white hot, driven the very essence of what they considered to be pain into his mind. And he refused to crack. The cultist was to them what an adamantium wall was to an inept unarmed goblin. Unbreakable, unpassable.

    Just then, the light that shone through the door they had left open to work darkened. The stench of booze wafted from the entrance, as if they had soaked a man in it. And slowly, the party's heads rose, looking to see who had stepped in for whatever purpose. And together, they found none other than Sir Peter, the paladin who had refused to lay eyes on the havok they had bestowed onto the cultist, dressed in naught but a grey, ragged tunic, and worn leather pants. He stood unarmed and unarmored, save for a half-consumed bottle of hard liqour, that which men who drank to forgot imbibed.
    >> 2 Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:30 No.10114061
    Before any of them could utter but a word, he spoke, in a gruff, steely tone that was unlike him. "If you're going to do this...do it right..." With this, he steadied himself, walking over to the bound cultist, an arm extending to fling aside the bottle of alcohol and let it shatter in the corner. It had served its purpose.

    Slowly, he took the chair from nearby, and sunk into it, staring at the beaten, startled man. Realization crossed the cultist's face as Sir Peter began to once again speak. "I..do not want to hurt you. I just need to know the locations of your brethren, then this can be all over for you. I will make sure you are safe and cared for."

    The cultist paused, as if seriously considering the paladin's words, before laughing, and spitting on the ground in front of him. "Hah! I know who you are. Sir -Peter- Fairgrave, kingdom breaker, runaway child, -father slayer-! You can't threaten me, I know what you are, your order, your -God- won't allow you to lay your hands on me, lest you fall, and be unable to save those you so endeavor to!" He cackled at this, seemingly assured in his safety.

    The grizzled, brown haired man lowered his head, rubbing his hand across the stubble that covered his chin, a sigh emptying his chest like the bellows at a forge. "You..seem to be under a misconception about what I am, what I do. I am a Paladin. This much is correct. But as a Paladin, you don't fear falling...I look forward to it." Slowly, his head lifted, locking his piercing blue eyes on the cultist's shocked green ones.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:34 No.10114115
    F5ing for the love of me!
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:36 No.10114147
    bump bump bump!
    >> 3 Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:36 No.10114155
    The man chained to the wall by his wrists quickly grew nervous, shooting a look that conveyed this at the party, who all looked at each other, not sure what was about to happen. Was it the alcohol that had done this to their beloved paladin? Or was this a well-played bluff on his part?

    The cultist licked his lips nervously, then opened his mouth as if to speak, but Sir Peter lifted a hand, with this simple motion, commanding silence. "As a Paladin, I walk on a razor's edge. Not between good and evil, cruel or gentle, things that you would consider, but between "Law" and "Justice." The Law I follow doesn't permit me to harm you, true. But I could be justified in anything I did to you in order to save innocent lives. ANYTHING!" With this bellow, the room shook, and then lay silent once more, as if the earth itself was a reverent listener to his words. His head dropped again, a few stray locks of hair falling to cling to the sweat on his face, as he bared himself to the people in the room.

    "You don't know what it's like to be me. You know not the pain of having to store all of your burning rage, this liquid fury, your own sense of justice, to hold it inside of you, all day, every day, for the rest of your life. Doing the right thing doesn't mean I get to stop all evil. I merely trim what is over grown, time and time again. The path I walk is not about vengeance, or what's right. It's about moderation in the face of power, exercising restraint and compassion for scum like you."

    (stupid post limits)
    >> 4 Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:38 No.10114183
    "This is why Paladins aren't afraid of falling. We don't spend all day looking for ways to prevent ourselves from doing evil, and surrendering ourselves to the darkness. We actively seek it out. Every time we face evil, we are forced to ask ourselves, "Is this it? Is this the threat I'm going to give it all for, is this what I am going to give up my ability to help others in the future to bring down now, is this the evil that I am willing to forsake my -God- and my -Power- to stop!?"

    He stood, as if the boiling fury within him had tipped over, his head jerking up, his eyes flashing as his arm snaps out, lashing against the chair he was sitting on, sending it flying to crash against the wall, and shatter. He lifted a foot, smashing it into the cultist's chair, and before he could even fall, leaping onto him, tearing the chains from the wall, straddling his chest and flinging him about, as if he was truly lost to his own overwhelming emotions, before the tempest of flesh that was his body calmed.

    Slowly, he grabbed the man's face, his thumb pressing into one cheek, and all four of his fingers pressing into the other, lining the cultist's face up with his own as he leaned in, the force of his eyes feeling as if it were driving a lance through the tortured man's soul, baring him as deeply as the paladin had just done to himself, sending him into a frenzied sweat of panic, the scent of fear rolling off his skin.
    >> 5 Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:40 No.10114212
    "What you should be asking yourself now, what you really need to be thinking about is this: "Is what I'm doing something that's going to make this man want to fall?" Because you should know, than once I fall? All those rules that protect you from me are -gone-. No longer will I be able to be stopped by you, my order, or my God. If I give everything, and I mean everything, I will -never- stop. If you were to escape me today, I would hunt you down, across deserts, seas, days and nights. And when I grabbed you, I would drag you screaming down into the fiery pits of hell myself, even if I should have to invoke the wrath of every demon and devil in creation, just so they would tear open a pit to drag me down where I stood, because when they did? These hands of mine would be wrapped firmly around your ankles, making sure you are following me right into those pits. I want you to listen to me now, and I mean really listen, because hell hath no fury like a Paladin scorned. So I ask of you, one final time: Tell me where the other rituals are being held, or I swear to all on high that I will fall, like a star crashing to the planet, just to show you what it is that a Paladin clutches to his code to hold back.."

    The cultist, pale-faced and shaking to his core now, shattered, like a wine glass flung to the earth from a castle in the sky. He began to babble madly, anything to keep this man steadfast on his path as a Paladin, gladly betraying the four remaining locations of the rituals that would otherwise doom so many innocent people, of the shape that these locations would form on a map when drawn together, and of the focal point of the shape, the palace spire.
    >> 6 Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:41 No.10114235
    And true to his word, the Paladin stood, drawing the man to his feet with a shoulder in his clutch, and pressing a palm to his chest, letting the might of his god wind through his body, course his arm, and enter the cultist, knitting his wounds in seconds. "As to my word, you will protected, sheltered and cared for. However, it will be in a holding cell. We cannot risk losing this chance to an overlooked detail." Slowly, the paladin stepped back, and turned, walking to the men who were his companions, who currently stared at him in unabashed awe.

    With a nod to the former Captain of the now Tyrant King, they regained their wits and tongues, and began to plan the endeavor that would decide the fate of this city...
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:41 No.10114237

    > will fall, like a star crashing to the planet, just to show you what it is that a Paladin clutches to his code to hold back

    >> Writefaggan Complete! Alroth 05/28/10(Fri)12:42 No.10114245
    So. First /tg/ writefag. Thumbs up or thumbs down?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:43 No.10114254

    Good writefaggotry + good material = epic

    I am definitely saving this for when I roll MY paladin.
    >> The Destroyer of Elah !!BYDyM6cb+nS 05/28/10(Fri)12:44 No.10114287
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:44 No.10114289

    From 1:27 of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6gHrlMS938
    >> Alroth 05/28/10(Fri)12:47 No.10114341
    Shameless bump to give everyone a chance to read if they want.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:47 No.10114343

    Lol, best soundtrack from that game.
    >> helpful /co/mrade 05/28/10(Fri)12:48 No.10114349
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    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:49 No.10114358

    This is going straight to my dramatic speech folder. I applaud you, writefaggot. There is yet hope for your kind.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:53 No.10114427
    how would one save this for "suptg"

    After all, its not every day someone redefines how to be a Paladin in a way which resolves so many play-issues, and is still awesome.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)12:57 No.10114505

    Um, a Vigilante ? The word doesn't do enough, pardon the pun, justice though. The Retributor sounds good though based on the philosophy of retributive justice
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)13:06 No.10114640
    Thanks for the shameless bump, I would have missed it if not for it most likely.

    Good material, OP. Sounds like a quality group.

    And to some of the other posters (certainly not all), sounds less like summer and more like butthurt that your groups don't play as well. Also sounds like a lot of whiny postmodernist horseshit in a few posts. Suck it up, buttercup.

    Nice writefaggotry also, might I add.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)13:07 No.10114656
    solid 8/10

    room for improvement, but a great start
    >> Alroth 05/28/10(Fri)13:08 No.10114678
    Where can I improve then?
    >> helpful /co/mrade 05/28/10(Fri)13:09 No.10114689

    Somebody's already done it, it seems
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)13:12 No.10114731

    The greatest irony is that the majority of Americans have no idea what equality means.
    >> Alroth 05/28/10(Fri)13:12 No.10114739
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    I'm finally on suptg! MY LIFE'S DREAM, ACHIEV'D. Well, fuck, now I have to go get another 'Life's Dream.' How inconsiderate.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)13:14 No.10114754
    Some minor grammar. it's "men who drink to forget." not forgot.
    And format could be fixed up a little bit. I hate when you have " text" "text2" like this. Makes it a bit messy to read.
    is easier. But that's a personal preference.

    Very very good over all. Needs some practice and you're golden.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)13:14 No.10114761
    colour me impressed!
    >> Alroth 05/28/10(Fri)13:16 No.10114787
    Yeah, I was bein' lazy. Didn't feel like running it through spellcheck, and figured PEPUL WANT IT NAO so, y'know.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)13:17 No.10114801
    >New way to play a Paladin appears on the internet
    >Everyone tries it
    >it becomes the norm, and the LOLful good paladin dies out
    >/tg/ hates this paladin because its cliché

    Trust me...
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)13:20 No.10114838
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    Paladins man.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)13:22 No.10114860
    Oh absolutely. I'm just an English teacher straight out of college. Not been bored crapless by reading other people's works yet.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)13:28 No.10114938
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    A fellow Eberronfag, awesome
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)13:58 No.10115456
    Good thread! Bumping for others to read!
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)14:05 No.10115557
    I really enjoyed this thread! Thanks for the ideas
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)14:07 No.10115601
    I also think the atonement question is an important one. What would a PKoJ actually do if offered a chance to atone?

    I suppose it changes on a character by character basis, but it seems so strange for one to actually atone.

    After all, their fall wasn't an accident, they waited for it and they wanted it, and hell, they're probably not sorry about it either.

    So would they turn it down?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)14:14 No.10115697
    I would say yes, they wouldn't have to of course, but they would surely want to.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)14:20 No.10115774
    Atoning would defeat the purpose.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)15:18 No.10116720
    hourly bump!
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)15:26 No.10116871

    what game is this art from - I have a whole folder of it - but no idea on the orgin.>>10111656
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)15:45 No.10117153
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)16:39 No.10118012
    Holy shit with a capital H...I'm definitely making a paladin based on Sir Peter.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)16:48 No.10118161
    I'd expect only if it were offered. Then it's the God calling him back, giving him another chance at sacrifice.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)17:14 No.10118528
    Regarding the thread paladin picture....

    Menoth called they want their armor design and color scheme back.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)17:16 No.10118556
    Holy shit, paladins are now actually good.

    Has someone put this on suptg or 1d4chan?
    Because if not, someone needs to.
    >> Iron Lung 05/28/10(Fri)17:16 No.10118562
    They gotta beat the Scarlet Crusade and the Vatican's Swiss Guard first.
    Menoth will probably win, really.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)17:33 No.10118890
    The Scarlet Crusade are asstards. They're all OMG NOT WEARIN OUR TABARD! INFECTED! PURGE!!!! WE R TEH RIGHTEOUS! Even though they get controlled by a demon, not once, but twice.
    >> Iron Lung 05/28/10(Fri)17:35 No.10118924
    No disagreement here, though I gradually started to feel really sympathetic towards Marjhan as I learned of her hearing voices, having doubts, and dying over and over.
    Plus, hey, tan skin and straight black hair is hot.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)19:19 No.10120760
    Bumping, I really enjoyed this thread
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)19:21 No.10120798

    Fuck yeah!
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)19:30 No.10120945
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    Good thread guys, I'ma bump it.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)19:59 No.10121473
    The voices and getting gibbed over and over is Brigitte Abbendis, not Marjhan.
    >> Iron Lung 05/28/10(Fri)20:10 No.10121589
    Err, right.
    Not like I have problems getting shit like that straight, no sirree.
    Abbendis. CHECK.
    >> Cypher !Qfw/yKqFpE 05/28/10(Fri)20:12 No.10121627
    this kind of Paladin needs its own order...
    And a class of its own, that gets bonuses during the time of their fall.
    >> Cypher !Qfw/yKqFpE 05/28/10(Fri)20:16 No.10121681
    I will build this Paladin.

    Thank you /tg/
    Thank you.
    >> Balancesheet !!8YCJ2hR2egG 05/28/10(Fri)20:34 No.10121971
    I'm more interested in the Captain.

    Specifically, how his name wasn't listed.

    Does he have a name? Or has he shunned it until he's redeemed himself?

    Int-er-es-ting. :P
    >> Cypher !Qfw/yKqFpE 05/28/10(Fri)20:51 No.10122244
    Well, he is built... not well at all, but built.


    And he is a follower of the great Sir Peter Fairgrave.
    btw, he is an ant.
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    >> Anonymous 05/29/10(Sat)04:40 No.10130454
    Carrying on the bump for those in different time zones.
    >> Anonymous 05/29/10(Sat)07:13 No.10132228
    Double bumping!
    >> Anonymous 05/29/10(Sat)07:15 No.10132258
    >cool story
    Cool story, bro.
    >> Anonymous 05/29/10(Sat)08:08 No.10132818
    dude, its like, such a cool story
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